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THE MOVIE THEORY
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After years of informing myself, experimenting with different approaches and immersing myself in the blackpill culture I developed a personal side belief system that I intend to present to you in this thread.

These are extrapolations from old redpill and PUA theories that still find confirmation in the field of long term relationships and less in short term ones, contrary to what these gentlemen said in the early 2000s.

Looks open the door, but an essential factor is necessary to make a relationship last and to guarantee you fullness and spiritual satisfaction, a factor that I have defined as MOMENTUM.

What is it?
The Latin word MOMENTUM means movement, impulse, push
In general it indicates the condition of motion and not staticity.

Looks open the door for the beginning of the relationship, status allows you to make her believe that you are irreplaceable and rare, and money allows the other two conditions to subsist (assuming you are 25+ and sub chad otherwise you can safely be homeless).

These three conditions alone are not enough and this is where MOMENTUM comes into play.
It is about giving a direction to the relationship and pursuing it. This can be obtained in various ways and makes sure that boredom does not take hold in the girl’s psyche and prevents her mind hamstering (research this specific term if you have no clue what the old redpill preaches about).
Obviously it requires a considerable expenditure of energy and effort, so it is up to you to decide whether it is worth pursuing them or dedicating your days to something else.



Case study 1: The subpar option - the surrogates
Read the OG quality and primitivity theory before proceeding: https://incels.wiki/w/Quality_and_primitivity_theory

1. Relationship with an HQNP girl : Trad Larp

When dealing with a high-quality non-primitive girl, the way to maintain momentum often takes the form of trad larping.
During my experiments in my 3-year ltr, I tried to establish a set of christian-like rules, such as praying before eating, or having her let me manage the relationship. This created an environment of semi-submission to a plan and a semblance of momentum towards a direction (family, children, stability, etc.).
This setup gives the illusion of structure and forward movement, and it can work temporarily. However, it’s fragile: as time went on, the relationship started to tumble down, and I realized trad larping only lasts up to a certain point. It is, essentially, a surrogate momentum.

WARNING:
If she's the sjw type just larp morals in the libleft category such as fighting together for feminism and such, you just need to give her something to strive for.


2. Relationship with an HQP girl : Crime Larp

For a high-quality primitive girl, momentum can also be generated through what I’ll call crime larping.
Here, the relationship is framed almost like living inside an action movie: chaos, risk, drama, and indulgence. The direction in this case isn’t about family or long-term stability, but instead a purely hedonistic and consumeristic pursuit of thrills.
It’s another temporary surrogate. Just like trad larp with an HQNP girl, crime larp with an HQP girl eventually collapses under its own weight.
It’s excitement on borrowed time, and it can never replace the deeper, more sustainable form of momentum that a relationship needs.



Case study 2: The premium option - social circle and money
This is the true catalyst of MOMENTUM.
Integrating your girlfriend into the circle, telling her gossip about your friends and so on generates a momentum without equals.
Note how girls in the absence of it often take refuge in escapism media such as watching Netflix drama series on repeat.
This is where the Movie theory finds its maximum expression, as her relationship with you will not only be shaped upon your personality alone, but a set of MULTIPLE friends, experiences and such that are extremely difficult to be replaced on a whim.

NO, it's not just about your status, it gives the lussion of rarity but can vanish if it does not find feedback in her experiences, as numbers on a screen don't catalyze emotions, FRIENDS do


TLDR.
Obtaining a wide social circle in which to integrate her, composed of eclectic and chaotic personalities that create drama continuously, and having enough money to always make her do new experiences weekly, will guarantee 99% that the relationship will not derail (assuming that the LMS condition does not suffer damage).



 
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Good thread. Sustaining relationships are underrated
 
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botb worthy thread
 
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THE MOVIE THEORY
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After years of informing myself, experimenting with different approaches and immersing myself in the blackpill culture I developed a personal side belief system that I intend to present to you in this thread.

These are extrapolations from old redpill and PUA theories that still find confirmation in the field of long term relationships and less in short term ones, contrary to what these gentlemen said in the early 2000s.

Looks open the door, but an essential factor is necessary to make a relationship last and to guarantee you fullness and spiritual satisfaction, a factor that I have defined as MOMENTUM.

What is it?
The Latin word MOMENTUM means movement, impulse, push
In general it indicates the condition of motion and not staticity.

Looks open the door for the beginning of the relationship, status allows you to make her believe that you are irreplaceable and rare, and money allows the other two conditions to subsist (assuming you are 25+ and sub chad otherwise you can safely be homeless).

These three conditions alone are not enough and this is where MOMENTUM comes into play.
It is about giving a direction to the relationship and pursuing it. This can be obtained in various ways and makes sure that boredom does not take hold in the girl’s psyche and prevents her mind hamstering (research this specific term if you have no clue what the old redpill preaches about).
Obviously it requires a considerable expenditure of energy and effort, so it is up to you to decide whether it is worth pursuing them or dedicating your days to something else.



Case study 1: The subpar option - the surrogates
Read the OG quality and primitivity theory before proceeding: https://incels.wiki/w/Quality_and_primitivity_theory

1. Relationship with an HQNP girl : Trad Larp

When dealing with a high-quality non-primitive girl, the way to maintain momentum often takes the form of trad larping.
During my experiments in my 3-year ltr, I tried to establish a set of christian-like rules, such as praying before eating, or having her let me manage the relationship. This created an environment of semi-submission to a plan and a semblance of momentum towards a direction (family, children, stability, etc.).
This setup gives the illusion of structure and forward movement, and it can work temporarily. However, it’s fragile: as time went on, the relationship started to tumble down, and I realized trad larping only lasts up to a certain point. It is, essentially, a surrogate momentum.

WARNING:
If she's the sjw type just larp morals in the libleft category such as fighting together for feminism and such, you just need to give her something to strive for.


2. Relationship with an HQP girl : Crime Larp

For a high-quality primitive girl, momentum can also be generated through what I’ll call crime larping.
Here, the relationship is framed almost like living inside an action movie: chaos, risk, drama, and indulgence. The direction in this case isn’t about family or long-term stability, but instead a purely hedonistic and consumeristic pursuit of thrills.
It’s another temporary surrogate. Just like trad larp with an HQNP girl, crime larp with an HQP girl eventually collapses under its own weight.
It’s excitement on borrowed time, and it can never replace the deeper, more sustainable form of momentum that a relationship needs.



Case study 2: The premium option - social circle and money
This is the true catalyst of MOMENTUM.
Integrating your girlfriend into the circle, telling her gossip about your friends and so on generates a momentum without equals.
Note how girls in the absence of it often take refuge in escapism media such as watching Netflix drama series on repeat.
This is where the Movie theory finds its maximum expression, as her relationship with you will not only be shaped upon your personality alone, but a set of MULTIPLE friends, experiences and such that are extremely difficult to be replaced on a whim.

NO, it's not just about your status, it gives the lussion of rarity but can vanish if it does not find feedback in her experiences, as numbers on a screen don't catalyze emotions, FRIENDS do

Obtaining a wide social circle in which to integrate her, composed of eclectic and chaotic personalities that create drama continuously, and having enough money to always make her do new experiences weekly, will guarantee 99% that the relationship will not derail (assuming that the LMS condition does not suffer damage).


how does one find friends after school :(
 
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Looks open the door for the beginning of the relationship, status allows you to make her believe that you are irreplaceable and rare, and money allows the other two conditions to subsist
just to be clear, your 'status' (unless you’re drake level - which is completely unrealistic) will be entirely redundant in terms of having a foid be genuinely into you unless you have the essential foundation (htn+ looks). Same goes for money, it won’t be a real relationship you'll only be getting used. These 2 things are minor add ons to looks, not essentials in any way.
 
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how does one find friends after school :(
Preconditions: be goodlooking and pleasant to be around.
Method: Just show up to the place you want to be acknowledged, it's that simple and works like a financial investment
Time in the market > timing the market
 
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just to be clear, your 'status' (unless you’re drake level - which is entirely unrealistic) will be entirely redundant in terms of having a foid be genuinely into you unless you have the essential foundation (htn+ looks). Same goes for money, it won’t be a real relationship you'll only be getting used. These 2 things are minor add ons to looks, not essentials in any way.
It's the opposite, being good looking deprived of any lesser quality makes you a mere sex toy worth of ONSs and nothing else
 
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It's the opposite, being good looking deprived of any lesser quality makes you a mere sex toy worth of ons' and nothing else
That’s all that 'love' is at the end of the day. A woman wanting you purely for your genetics is the closest thing to 'real love' that exists. Not money, not status. Looks is genuine desire.
 
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That’s all that 'love' is at the end of the day. A woman wanting you purely for your genetics is the closest thing to 'real love' that exists. Not money, not status. Looks is genuine desire.
Ltrs are not about that primal kind of ONS attraction, they are built on a compromised balance. You are criticizing the ltr phenomenon itself, which is fine, but there are people who like that kind of stability
 
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Ltrs are not about that primal kind of ONS attraction, they are built on a compromised balance
only ltr's that end in divorce and are formed as a result the man having something to 'provide' for the woman (usually money) after having failed to get the chad's she was sleeping around with to settle for her.

The cope that looks are only a part of the equation is just that: a cope. Aesthetics don’t just matter, they're everything. A woman who has slept around with more attractive men than you (the one marrying her) will subconsciously view herself as above you, which causes her to mistreat you, argue with you and disrespect you in a way she never would for someone more attractive than you. Looks don’t just open doors they also keep you in the room.
 
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only ltr's that end in divorce and are formed as a result the man having something to 'provide' for the woman (usually money) after having failed to get the chad's she was sleeping around with to settle for her.

The cope that looks are only a part of the equation is just that: a cope. Aesthetics don’t just matter, they're everything. A woman who has slept around with more attractive men than you (the one marrying her) will subconsciously view herself as above you, which causes her to mistreat you, argue with you and disrespect you in a way she never would for someone more attractive than you. Looks don’t just open doors they also keep you in the room.
It's the sin equanon condition, it's MANDATORY, but not ENOUGH.
A woman is not retarded, she usually knows her place well in the hierarchy and understands she has more power as a ltb female than a htn male and will subconsiously require you to fill that gap with entertainment
 
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require you to fill that gap with entertainment
And that’s why ltr's are almost always a bad idea unless you’re chad. If her smv is substantially higher than yours you will be her little plaything that she will mistreat if you don’t constantly entertain, jester and pamper and even still, she'll only tolerate you, she's not going to get wet for you or even be sexual around you . She'll use you for 'entertainment' and money without even giving you what you really want (sex).
MANDATORY, but not ENOUGH.
It’s not enough if you aren’t at least edging cl territory yes, but no amount of jestering will make up for that. A woman would happily marry chad working a construction job with no prospects or jestermaxxing, and be with him for life, no 'entertainment' needed, and chad gets his sex.
 
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looks makes them come to you, personality and charisma makes them stay:p
 
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And that’s why ltr's are almost always a bad idea unless you’re chad. If her smv is substantially higher than yours you will be her little plaything that she will mistreat if you don’t constantly entertain, jester and pamper and even still, she'll only tolerate you, she's not going to get wet for you or even be sexual around you . She'll use you for entertainment and money without even giving you what you really want (sex).

It’s not enough if you aren’t at least edging cl territory yes, but no amount of jestering will make up for that. A woman would happily marry chad working a construction job, and be with him for life, no 'entertainment' needed, and chad gets his sex.
There's nothing you can do about it, maxx yourself to your max potential and then take advantage of any possible jestering you can grasp
 
looks makes them come to you, personality and charisma makes them stay:p
Personality and charisma do get boring, experiences and chaos are what make her stay
 
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There's nothing you can do about it, maxx yourself to your max potential and then take advantage of any possible jestering you can grasp
but it doesn’t work though. If you don’t have the potential surgically your best option for a happy life is to avoid ltr's at all cost.
looks makes them come to you, personality and charisma makes them stay:p
if only that were the case
 
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If you don’t have the potential surgically your best option for a happy life is to avoid ltr's at all cost.
That's a viable solution as well.
Implementing the movie theory and consuming a big amount of resources to make her complacent

OR

be single

I clearly stated it in the first paragraph

"Obviously it requires a considerable expenditure of energy and effort, so it is up to you to decide whether it is worth pursuing them or dedicating your days to something else."
 
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THE MOVIE THEORY
by FutureSlayer



View attachment 4058773

After years of informing myself, experimenting with different approaches and immersing myself in the blackpill culture I developed a personal side belief system that I intend to present to you in this thread.

These are extrapolations from old redpill and PUA theories that still find confirmation in the field of long term relationships and less in short term ones, contrary to what these gentlemen said in the early 2000s.

Looks open the door, but an essential factor is necessary to make a relationship last and to guarantee you fullness and spiritual satisfaction, a factor that I have defined as MOMENTUM.

What is it?
The Latin word MOMENTUM means movement, impulse, push
In general it indicates the condition of motion and not staticity.

Looks open the door for the beginning of the relationship, status allows you to make her believe that you are irreplaceable and rare, and money allows the other two conditions to subsist (assuming you are 25+ and sub chad otherwise you can safely be homeless).

These three conditions alone are not enough and this is where MOMENTUM comes into play.
It is about giving a direction to the relationship and pursuing it. This can be obtained in various ways and makes sure that boredom does not take hold in the girl’s psyche and prevents her mind hamstering (research this specific term if you have no clue what the old redpill preaches about).
Obviously it requires a considerable expenditure of energy and effort, so it is up to you to decide whether it is worth pursuing them or dedicating your days to something else.



Case study 1: The subpar option - the surrogates
Read the OG quality and primitivity theory before proceeding: https://incels.wiki/w/Quality_and_primitivity_theory

1. Relationship with an HQNP girl : Trad Larp

When dealing with a high-quality non-primitive girl, the way to maintain momentum often takes the form of trad larping.
During my experiments in my 3-year ltr, I tried to establish a set of christian-like rules, such as praying before eating, or having her let me manage the relationship. This created an environment of semi-submission to a plan and a semblance of momentum towards a direction (family, children, stability, etc.).
This setup gives the illusion of structure and forward movement, and it can work temporarily. However, it’s fragile: as time went on, the relationship started to tumble down, and I realized trad larping only lasts up to a certain point. It is, essentially, a surrogate momentum.

WARNING:
If she's the sjw type just larp morals in the libleft category such as fighting together for feminism and such, you just need to give her something to strive for.


2. Relationship with an HQP girl : Crime Larp

For a high-quality primitive girl, momentum can also be generated through what I’ll call crime larping.
Here, the relationship is framed almost like living inside an action movie: chaos, risk, drama, and indulgence. The direction in this case isn’t about family or long-term stability, but instead a purely hedonistic and consumeristic pursuit of thrills.
It’s another temporary surrogate. Just like trad larp with an HQNP girl, crime larp with an HQP girl eventually collapses under its own weight.
It’s excitement on borrowed time, and it can never replace the deeper, more sustainable form of momentum that a relationship needs.



Case study 2: The premium option - social circle and money
This is the true catalyst of MOMENTUM.
Integrating your girlfriend into the circle, telling her gossip about your friends and so on generates a momentum without equals.
Note how girls in the absence of it often take refuge in escapism media such as watching Netflix drama series on repeat.
This is where the Movie theory finds its maximum expression, as her relationship with you will not only be shaped upon your personality alone, but a set of MULTIPLE friends, experiences and such that are extremely difficult to be replaced on a whim.

NO, it's not just about your status, it gives the lussion of rarity but can vanish if it does not find feedback in her experiences, as numbers on a screen don't catalyze emotions, FRIENDS do


TLDR.
Obtaining a wide social circle in which to integrate her, composed of eclectic and chaotic personalities that create drama continuously, and having enough money to always make her do new experiences weekly, will guarantee 99% that the relationship will not derail (assuming that the LMS condition does not suffer damage).




THE MOVIE THEORY
by FutureSlayer



View attachment 4058773

After years of informing myself, experimenting with different approaches and immersing myself in the blackpill culture I developed a personal side belief system that I intend to present to you in this thread.

These are extrapolations from old redpill and PUA theories that still find confirmation in the field of long term relationships and less in short term ones, contrary to what these gentlemen said in the early 2000s.

Looks open the door, but an essential factor is necessary to make a relationship last and to guarantee you fullness and spiritual satisfaction, a factor that I have defined as MOMENTUM.

What is it?
The Latin word MOMENTUM means movement, impulse, push
In general it indicates the condition of motion and not staticity.

Looks open the door for the beginning of the relationship, status allows you to make her believe that you are irreplaceable and rare, and money allows the other two conditions to subsist (assuming you are 25+ and sub chad otherwise you can safely be homeless).

These three conditions alone are not enough and this is where MOMENTUM comes into play.
It is about giving a direction to the relationship and pursuing it. This can be obtained in various ways and makes sure that boredom does not take hold in the girl’s psyche and prevents her mind hamstering (research this specific term if you have no clue what the old redpill preaches about).
Obviously it requires a considerable expenditure of energy and effort, so it is up to you to decide whether it is worth pursuing them or dedicating your days to something else.



Case study 1: The subpar option - the surrogates
Read the OG quality and primitivity theory before proceeding: https://incels.wiki/w/Quality_and_primitivity_theory

1. Relationship with an HQNP girl : Trad Larp

When dealing with a high-quality non-primitive girl, the way to maintain momentum often takes the form of trad larping.
During my experiments in my 3-year ltr, I tried to establish a set of christian-like rules, such as praying before eating, or having her let me manage the relationship. This created an environment of semi-submission to a plan and a semblance of momentum towards a direction (family, children, stability, etc.).
This setup gives the illusion of structure and forward movement, and it can work temporarily. However, it’s fragile: as time went on, the relationship started to tumble down, and I realized trad larping only lasts up to a certain point. It is, essentially, a surrogate momentum.

WARNING:
If she's the sjw type just larp morals in the libleft category such as fighting together for feminism and such, you just need to give her something to strive for.


2. Relationship with an HQP girl : Crime Larp

For a high-quality primitive girl, momentum can also be generated through what I’ll call crime larping.
Here, the relationship is framed almost like living inside an action movie: chaos, risk, drama, and indulgence. The direction in this case isn’t about family or long-term stability, but instead a purely hedonistic and consumeristic pursuit of thrills.
It’s another temporary surrogate. Just like trad larp with an HQNP girl, crime larp with an HQP girl eventually collapses under its own weight.
It’s excitement on borrowed time, and it can never replace the deeper, more sustainable form of momentum that a relationship needs.



Case study 2: The premium option - social circle and money
This is the true catalyst of MOMENTUM.
Integrating your girlfriend into the circle, telling her gossip about your friends and so on generates a momentum without equals.
Note how girls in the absence of it often take refuge in escapism media such as watching Netflix drama series on repeat.
This is where the Movie theory finds its maximum expression, as her relationship with you will not only be shaped upon your personality alone, but a set of MULTIPLE friends, experiences and such that are extremely difficult to be replaced on a whim.

NO, it's not just about your status, it gives the lussion of rarity but can vanish if it does not find feedback in her experiences, as numbers on a screen don't catalyze emotions, FRIENDS do


TLDR.
Obtaining a wide social circle in which to integrate her, composed of eclectic and chaotic personalities that create drama continuously, and having enough money to always make her do new experiences weekly, will guarantee 99% that the relationship will not derail (assuming that the LMS condition does not suffer damage).



Amazing thread, no one will understand this until they actually do start slaying tho
 
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THE MOVIE THEORY
by FutureSlayer



View attachment 4058773

After years of informing myself, experimenting with different approaches and immersing myself in the blackpill culture I developed a personal side belief system that I intend to present to you in this thread.

These are extrapolations from old redpill and PUA theories that still find confirmation in the field of long term relationships and less in short term ones, contrary to what these gentlemen said in the early 2000s.

Looks open the door, but an essential factor is necessary to make a relationship last and to guarantee you fullness and spiritual satisfaction, a factor that I have defined as MOMENTUM.

What is it?
The Latin word MOMENTUM means movement, impulse, push
In general it indicates the condition of motion and not staticity.

Looks open the door for the beginning of the relationship, status allows you to make her believe that you are irreplaceable and rare, and money allows the other two conditions to subsist (assuming you are 25+ and sub chad otherwise you can safely be homeless).

These three conditions alone are not enough and this is where MOMENTUM comes into play.
It is about giving a direction to the relationship and pursuing it. This can be obtained in various ways and makes sure that boredom does not take hold in the girl’s psyche and prevents her mind hamstering (research this specific term if you have no clue what the old redpill preaches about).
Obviously it requires a considerable expenditure of energy and effort, so it is up to you to decide whether it is worth pursuing them or dedicating your days to something else.



Case study 1: The subpar option - the surrogates
Read the OG quality and primitivity theory before proceeding: https://incels.wiki/w/Quality_and_primitivity_theory

1. Relationship with an HQNP girl : Trad Larp

When dealing with a high-quality non-primitive girl, the way to maintain momentum often takes the form of trad larping.
During my experiments in my 3-year ltr, I tried to establish a set of christian-like rules, such as praying before eating, or having her let me manage the relationship. This created an environment of semi-submission to a plan and a semblance of momentum towards a direction (family, children, stability, etc.).
This setup gives the illusion of structure and forward movement, and it can work temporarily. However, it’s fragile: as time went on, the relationship started to tumble down, and I realized trad larping only lasts up to a certain point. It is, essentially, a surrogate momentum.

WARNING:
If she's the sjw type just larp morals in the libleft category such as fighting together for feminism and such, you just need to give her something to strive for.


2. Relationship with an HQP girl : Crime Larp

For a high-quality primitive girl, momentum can also be generated through what I’ll call crime larping.
Here, the relationship is framed almost like living inside an action movie: chaos, risk, drama, and indulgence. The direction in this case isn’t about family or long-term stability, but instead a purely hedonistic and consumeristic pursuit of thrills.
It’s another temporary surrogate. Just like trad larp with an HQNP girl, crime larp with an HQP girl eventually collapses under its own weight.
It’s excitement on borrowed time, and it can never replace the deeper, more sustainable form of momentum that a relationship needs.



Case study 2: The premium option - social circle and money
This is the true catalyst of MOMENTUM.
Integrating your girlfriend into the circle, telling her gossip about your friends and so on generates a momentum without equals.
Note how girls in the absence of it often take refuge in escapism media such as watching Netflix drama series on repeat.
This is where the Movie theory finds its maximum expression, as her relationship with you will not only be shaped upon your personality alone, but a set of MULTIPLE friends, experiences and such that are extremely difficult to be replaced on a whim.

NO, it's not just about your status, it gives the lussion of rarity but can vanish if it does not find feedback in her experiences, as numbers on a screen don't catalyze emotions, FRIENDS do


TLDR.
Obtaining a wide social circle in which to integrate her, composed of eclectic and chaotic personalities that create drama continuously, and having enough money to always make her do new experiences weekly, will guarantee 99% that the relationship will not derail (assuming that the LMS condition does not suffer damage).



Indeed I was never able to hold down a relationship
 
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It would be easier to perform Limb Lengthening surgery on myself than to integrate a foid into my friend group
 
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It would be easier to perform Limb Lengthening surgery on myself than to integrate a foid into my friend group
The hardest blackpill to swallow for me is unironically the friend group part, this is what held me back the most
 
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lol whats the thread for, doesn't everybody know that already by common sense?
 
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lol whats the thread for, doesn't everybody know that already by common sense?
Tiktok has heavily screwed late gen z/alpha perceptions about what dating really is about, trust me, they have absolutely no clue
 
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