(🪨) Why Marxist (ex. Wokeism) & Darwinist (ex. Blackpill) Ideologies Are Psychologically Suicidal.

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Just my thoughts, I would like you guys to pitch in. Feel free to copy and paste this into ChatGPT for a summary.

Marxism is founded on oppressor-oppressed dynamics.

Marxism proposes that the oppressed is the priority and must be saved, uplifted and be the advantaged group, being liberated from the wicked oppressor.
This can be on the basis of gender, wealth, attractiveness, race, sexuality, etc.
It also believes humans don't really have soul.

Darwinism is founded on superior-inferior dynamics.
Darwinism proposes that the superior is endowed and therefore must have all of the advantages in life. The inferior should be outcasted, humiliated, avoided, etc.
This can be on the basis of many things, such a gender, wealth, attractiveness, race, sexuality, etc.
It also believes humans don't really have soul.

Despite being polar opposites, they eventually lead to the same end result psychologically, when their natural reasoning extends it too far (what I mean by this is that if you have an ideology that you think it's good, you'll implement it everywhere and implement it more intensely, since you think its good)



The end result of Marxist-based ideologies (wokeism is a good example) is that the oppressed oppresses the oppressors and still claim that they are oppressed. They sterilize every aspect of society and ruin it. They uplift ugliness, poorness, bad behavior, anything that makes a society thrive, they hate. They ruin every aspect of society culturally, psychologically, etc. They become resentful of themselves since they hate being the oppressed (sense of inferiority, which leads to shame, the lowest level of consciousness), and the oppressors develop a deep sense of guilt (which eventually leads to shame, the lowest level of consciousness).

They believe life is miserable due to their debilitating emotions and maybe they kill themselves.
People become suicidal since everything that is good in society is gone.
The end of civilization


The end result of Darwinist-based ideologies (the blackpill is a good example) is that the superiors harshly dominate the inferiors to such a degree that it ruins relations between other humans. People socially outcast and exile inferiors. This creates a deep sense of inferiority and self-hate. Things become exaggerated to the point that you literally need to be perfect, or you belong in the trash. This creates an extremely huge population of self-hating, depressed, LDAR-types that believe it's over and there's little realistic upward mobility. These "inferiors" (almost everyone) give up on life and become hopeless, and deeply ashamed of themselves, (the lowest level of consciousness) and neglect everything (their health, looks, money, etc.). The inferiors become a burden.

Eventually, the "superiors" become possessed and they feel inferior (see how forum chads think they still need surgery), following the same path of everyone else.
The end of civilization.


In both scenarios, everyone is brought to the lowest levels of consciousness, and everything fails.

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This is why humanistic ideologies always fail in my opinion.
 
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Just my thoughts, I would like you guys to pitch in. Feel free to copy and paste this into ChatGPT for a summary.

Marxism is founded on oppressor-oppressed dynamics.

Marxism proposes that the oppressed is the priority and must be saved, uplifted and be the advantaged group, being liberated from the wicked oppressor.
This can be on the basis of gender, wealth, attractiveness, race, sexuality, etc.
It also believes humans don't really have soul.

Darwinism is founded on superior-inferior dynamics.
Darwinism proposes that the superior is endowed and therefore must have all of the advantages in life. The inferior should be outcasted, humiliated, avoided, etc.
This can be on the basis of many things, such a gender, wealth, attractiveness, race, sexuality, etc.
It also believes humans don't really have soul.

Despite being polar opposites, they eventually lead to the same end result psychologically, when their natural reasoning extends it too far (what I mean by this is that if you have an ideology that you think it's good, you'll implement it everywhere and implement it more intensely, since you think its good)



The end result of Marxist-based ideologies (wokeism is a good example) is that the oppressed oppresses the oppressors and still claim that they are oppressed. They sterilize every aspect of society and ruin it. They uplift ugliness, poorness, bad behavior, anything that makes a society thrive, they hate. They ruin every aspect of society culturally, psychologically, etc. They become resentful of themselves since they hate being the oppressed (sense of inferiority, which leads to shame, the lowest level of consciousness), and the oppressors develop a deep sense of guilt (which eventually leads to shame, the lowest level of consciousness).

They believe life is miserable due to their debilitating emotions and maybe they kill themselves.
People become suicidal since everything that is good in society is gone.
The end of civilization


The end result of Darwinist-based ideologies (the blackpill is a good example) is that the superiors harshly dominate the inferiors to such a degree that it ruins relations between other humans. People socially outcast and exile inferiors. This creates a deep sense of inferiority and self-hate. Things become exaggerated to the point that you literally need to be perfect, or you belong in the trash. This creates an extremely huge population of self-hating, depressed, LDAR-types that believe it's over and there's little realistic upward mobility. These "inferiors" (almost everyone) give up on life and become hopeless, and deeply ashamed of themselves, (the lowest level of consciousness) and neglect everything (their health, looks, money, etc.). The inferiors become a burden.

Eventually, the "superiors" become possessed and they feel inferior (see how forum chads think they still need surgery), following the same path of everyone else.
The end of civilization.


In both scenarios, everyone is brought to the lowest levels of consciousness, and everything fails.

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On individualistic level that's obv not true. If everyone believes in the BP then that's a bit demoralising for a society but the results with women and perception of people based on their looks like it is today wouldn't change one bit.

Since BP is based on subconcious treatment of ppl according to their looks, bringing it to a concious level also wouldn't cause it to change at all. Except for more jokes abt ugly ppl.

BP can't even be enforced by the government bc it's just natural selection (natural= w/o government interference) Hitlers reign wasn't even BP because he deemed aryans superior artificially while the whole idea of genetic superiority is based on thriving in your enviroment and having as much offspring as possible. So he wasn't even eugenic, if aryans were superior they would win in evolution anyway, he was actually the opposite of an eugenecist
 
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Since BP is based on subconcious treatment of ppl according to their looks, bringing it to a concious level also wouldn't cause it to change at all.
In my defence, once you're blackpilled, you rate people harsher, you see their flaws, you start seeing women in the lens of genetics and "will she make my children hot", it will make you rate people lower due to stupid ratios, and it makes people at the bare minimum HTB+sexual.
BP can't even be enforced by the government bc it's just natural selection
It's not blackpill, the argument I made was for darwinistic-type ideologies, which the blackpill falls under.
 
The whole idea of hypergamy is based on the survey where women rate 80% of men as below average so it could be argued whether it makes you rate harsher. But anyway it doesn't even matter, even if women don't make fun of manlet subhumans to appear virtoueous and not shallow their treatment still is equivelent to looks lvl and that's what ratings are for - determining how you would be TREATED. Actions not words

Men also always say that they prefer a "natural girl" over ones with makeup and then choose the ones with makeup. Why? Because they can't even differentiate between a foid with or w/o makeup so they choose the ones with because they appear better genetically. If it weren't the case women wouldn't even wear it

Like i said, darwinism is about natural selection, which exists naturally as the name suggests. Gov intervening in this selection would make it artificial instead of survival of the fittest
 
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darwinism/blackpill is simply acknowledging the process of what has already been happening. you are probably thinking of materialism which leads to anti natalism. it is perfectly possible to understand the evolutionary process and still want to reproduce and create a better society, in fact, it's probably the best way to motivate the proper ways to do so, via harsh darwinisn pressures.

if you are not blackpilled, you will become complacent, and that's why civilization is failing. in the past people were naturally blackpilled either via autistic pattern recognition or religion reenforcing the blackpill about human nature, especially female nature.

blackpill is everything
 
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The whole idea of hypergamy is based on the survey where women rate 80% of men as below average so it could be argued whether it makes you rate harsher. But anyway it doesn't even matter, even if women don't make fun of manlet subhumans to appear virtoueous and not shallow their treatment still is equivelent to looks lvl and that's what ratings are for - determining how you would be TREATED. Actions not words

Men also always say that they prefer a "natural girl" over ones with makeup and then choose the ones with makeup. Why? Because they can't even differentiate between a foid with or w/o makeup so they choose the ones with because they appear better genetically. If it weren't the case women wouldn't even wear it

Like i said, darwinism is about natural selection, which exists naturally as the name suggests. Gov intervening in this selection would make it artificial instead of survival of the fittest
Although you're correct, many girls don't actually get with chad besides one-night stands. There are many things in society that actually suppress natural selection and darwinistic behavior, therefore it doesn't express itself fully.
 
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darwinism/blackpill is simply acknowledging the process of what has already been happening. you are probably thinking of materialism which leads to anti natalism. it is perfectly possible to understand the evolutionary process and still want to reproduce and create a better society, in fact, it's probably the best way to motivate the proper ways to do so, via harsh darwinisn pressures.

if you are not blackpilled, you will become complacent, and that's why civilization is failing. in the past people were naturally blackpilled either via autistic pattern recognition or religion reenforcing the blackpill about human nature, especially female nature.

blackpill is everything
Well, blackpill is a darwinistic ideology.
Also, you are correct that it does provide ample motivation, if people have hope of upward mobility.
We also have to notice that there are many things in society that actually suppresses rampant Darwinism. On this forum and in the blackpill in general, there's no such suppressants.
 
Just my thoughts, I would like you guys to pitch in. Feel free to copy and paste this into ChatGPT for a summary.

Marxism is founded on oppressor-oppressed dynamics.

Marxism proposes that the oppressed is the priority and must be saved, uplifted and be the advantaged group, being liberated from the wicked oppressor.
This can be on the basis of gender, wealth, attractiveness, race, sexuality, etc.
It also believes humans don't really have soul.

Darwinism is founded on superior-inferior dynamics.
Darwinism proposes that the superior is endowed and therefore must have all of the advantages in life. The inferior should be outcasted, humiliated, avoided, etc.
This can be on the basis of many things, such a gender, wealth, attractiveness, race, sexuality, etc.
It also believes humans don't really have soul.

Despite being polar opposites, they eventually lead to the same end result psychologically, when their natural reasoning extends it too far (what I mean by this is that if you have an ideology that you think it's good, you'll implement it everywhere and implement it more intensely, since you think its good)



The end result of Marxist-based ideologies (wokeism is a good example) is that the oppressed oppresses the oppressors and still claim that they are oppressed. They sterilize every aspect of society and ruin it. They uplift ugliness, poorness, bad behavior, anything that makes a society thrive, they hate. They ruin every aspect of society culturally, psychologically, etc. They become resentful of themselves since they hate being the oppressed (sense of inferiority, which leads to shame, the lowest level of consciousness), and the oppressors develop a deep sense of guilt (which eventually leads to shame, the lowest level of consciousness).

They believe life is miserable due to their debilitating emotions and maybe they kill themselves.
People become suicidal since everything that is good in society is gone.
The end of civilization


The end result of Darwinist-based ideologies (the blackpill is a good example) is that the superiors harshly dominate the inferiors to such a degree that it ruins relations between other humans. People socially outcast and exile inferiors. This creates a deep sense of inferiority and self-hate. Things become exaggerated to the point that you literally need to be perfect, or you belong in the trash. This creates an extremely huge population of self-hating, depressed, LDAR-types that believe it's over and there's little realistic upward mobility. These "inferiors" (almost everyone) give up on life and become hopeless, and deeply ashamed of themselves, (the lowest level of consciousness) and neglect everything (their health, looks, money, etc.). The inferiors become a burden.

Eventually, the "superiors" become possessed and they feel inferior (see how forum chads think they still need surgery), following the same path of everyone else.
The end of civilization.


In both scenarios, everyone is brought to the lowest levels of consciousness, and everything fails.

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High IQ thread

I must say some marxists are against wokeism because they think those problems are on the superestructure of society and not the economic base which creates different belief systems as marxism is against religion and ideology (but somewhat they consider themselves scientific).

Is like believing in freedom of speech but also saying the media favors the capital and the goverment, this is what the right calls "cultural marxism" I call it cultural battle. Leftists arguments are also biased, ex: gender and race studies favors minorities and ignores majorities (political activism).
 
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Marxism is a slave moralist ideology it thrives of empowering the weak that’s one of its biggest flaws the people it empowers are usually full of envy and are in a bottom of hierarchy deservingly when these people overthrow their natural born leaders chaos ensues.
 
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Marxism is a slave moralist ideology it thrives of empowering the weak that’s one of its biggest flaws the people it empowers are usually full of envy and are in a bottom of hierarchy deservingly when these people overthrow their natural born leaders chaos ensues.
Exactly.
 
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I must say some marxists are against wokeism because they think those problems are on the superestructure of society and not the economic base which creates different belief systems as marxism is against religion and ideology (but somewhat they consider themselves scientific). Is like believing in freedom of speech but also saying the media favors the capital and the goverment, this is what the right calls "cultural marxism" I call it cultural battle.
Good call.
 
Because they're ideal. Humans like the ideal, they strive for it but never reach. Humans are not ideal and will never be. When humans can't achieve something they're desperate and lose their meaning of life therefore ropemax.
 
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Although you're correct, many girls don't actually get with chad besides one-night stands. There are many things in society that actually suppress natural selection and darwinistic behavior, therefore it doesn't express itself fully.
These times are interesting because they are actually probably the point where evolution is fastest.

What i mean by this is f.e abortion. This is completly insane evolutionarly for the individual commiting it. The reason it wasn't eliminated yet is that it was impossible naturally so the motherly protective instinct only activated after birth so now evolution will eliminate those that don't love their children a lot (whether born or unborn).

Male children will also need lots of help while growing up to not be a "loser", daughtermaxxing is huge now due to hypergamy letting you improve ur gene pool through the daughter which also ties in with sons needing huge resources. A lot of foids are voluntarily not having children now bc back then sex = children so conciously wanting to have children wasn't neccesery evolutionarly, just sexual desire. So the hoes are now eliminated. The ammount of new selection points is huge.

But yeah every girl obv can't get chad just statistically. Maybe that's why a lot of women choose to not settle for betabuxx nowadays (marriage numbers fall despite huge financial incentives for women, and let's be honest, it's not through MGTOW lol) a lot prefer no LTR at all if they can't get chad lol.

Polygamy inc? It's already there bc 63% of men are single but only 34% od women but maybe now polygamy with children will be viable?

Obv concealed ovulation evolved for women to get chad genes and still get a provider, now since parent dna testing was invented this strat was nerfed, i wonder what will happen now. Open relationships are not far off from raising children of chad so who knows... Men's future is bleak but interesting.

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These times are interesting because they are actually probably the point where evolution is fastest.

What i mean by this is f.e abortion. This is completly insane evolutionarly for the individual commiting it. The reason it wasn't eliminated yet is that it was impossible naturally so the motherly protective instinct only activated after birth so now evolution will eliminate those that don't love their children a lot (whether born or unborn).

Male children will also need lots of help while growing up to not be a "loser", daughtermaxxing is huge now due to hypergamy letting you improve ur gene pool through the daughter which also ties in with sons needing huge resources. A lot of foids are voluntarily not having children now bc back then sex = children so conciously wanting to have children wasn't neccesery evolutionarly, just sexual desire. So the hoes are now eliminated. The ammount of new selection points is huge.

But yeah every girl obv can't get chad just statistically. Maybe that's why a lot of women choose to not settle for betabuxx nowadays (marriage numbers fall despite huge financial incentives for women, and let's be honest, it's not through MGTOW lol) a lot prefer no LTR at all if they can't get chad lol.

Polygamy inc? It's already there bc 63% of men are single but only 34% od women but maybe now polygamy with children will be viable?

Obv concealed ovulation evolved for women to get chad genes and still get a provider, now since parent dna testing was invented this strat was nerfed, i wonder what will happen now. Open relationships are not far off from raising children of chad so who knows... Men's future is bleak but interesting.

Yap sesh over
It's also important to know that most women don't even reproduce with Chad. Only then will hypergamy be in full swing.
 

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