Why Nicotine is Amazing in Puberty

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Wait what? Nicotine that addicting shit to keep people smoking those cancer sticks called cigs?

Yes Nicotine.


Nicotine alone has alot benefits despide being addictive asfuck so dont recommend it if you aren't using nicotine but all the kids these days are addicted to JUULS so here are reasons to cope with nicotine addiction and say you use it for the benefiting effects instead of your crippeling addiction! (i am also addicted rn to throwable vapes lol)

would never smoke cigs because they stain teeth and cause cancer way faster only would say recommend Nicotine in the form of a Vape, gum , or Patch


Nicotine boosts DHT by inhibiting the enzyme, 3α-HSD, which is the enzyme that breaks DHT down into 3α-androstanediol, a weaker androgen.

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why DHT?
DHT, the apex androgen for all men.

Testosterone is only thought to be a precursor hormone in the body for the synthesis of DHT, which is the most potent alpha hormone. It’s like cholesterol that’s the precursor to pregnenolone and testosterone.

Many of the beneficial effect of testosterone is actually through DHT, and blocking the conversion of testosterone to DHT eliminates those benefits.

Testosterone is converted to DHT via the 5-alpha reductase (5-AR) enzyme in the body. Although testosterone is a major contributor to circulating DHT, DHT can also be created from other precursors, such as DHEA, androstenedione, androsterone, 17-hydroxypregnenolone and 17-hydroxyprogesterone.

NS_DHT

A few really cool facts about DHT why it’s superior to testosterone

DHT is 2.5-10 times more potent than testosterone and here’s why:

  1. DHT has 4 times higher affinity to AR (androgen receptors) than testosterone
  2. Binding of DHT to the AR transforms the AR to its DNA-binding state
  3. DHT upregulates AR synthesis and reduces AR turnover
  4. The dissociation rate of testosterone from receptors is 3-5 fold faster than DHT (meaning DHT exerts a much more powerful effect on AR than testosterone)
However, high concentrations of intracellular T can shift AR binding away from DHT by mass action, as only 10% of T converts to DHT via 5-AR and DHT is roughly 7- to 10-fold lower in the circulation than T (R). So DHT is clearly outnumbered.

In the blood, DHT is also bound to SHBG (5 times high affinity and longer binding halflife (43 sec) than T (12 sec)) and more weakly to albumin. In general, protein-bound DHT is inactive except in some reproductive tissues in which megalin, an endocytic receptor, acts as a pathway for cellular uptake of DHT when bound to SHBG.

And finally, DHT can’t be aromatized to estrogen and actually inhibits the aromatase (R) and blocks the estrogen receptors (R).

Ok, enough geeking out.

Let’s discuss why you even want high DHT in the first place.

Like I mentioned, the benefits of high testosterone is mostly due to the conversion of DHT.


So having high DHT will make you feel:
  • Calm and collected
  • Confident & non-intimidated by others
  • Fearless, but not reckless
  • Protective of those you love
  • Assertive
  • Energetic
  • Motivated
  • Stress resilient
  • Mentally quick and sharp
…and a host of other benefits as well.

It truly is a hormone we want to maximize alongside testosterone, dopamine and thyroid. Keep in mind that the body is complicated and that all hormones need to work together for all the benefits.

DHT is also the most important hormone for puberty:
https://forum.****************/threads/dihydrotestosterone-puberty-guide.2332/

Effect of Dihydrotestosterone

Dihydrotestosterone is a hormone that stimulates the development of male characteristics (an androgen). It is made through conversion of the more commonly known androgen, Testosterone. However you can also take DHT

Growth of body hair, including underarm, abdominal, chest hair and pubic hair. Loss of scalp hair due to androgenic alopecia can also occur.
Greater mass of thigh muscles in front of the femur, rather than behind it as is typical in mature females
Growth of facial hair
Enlargement of larynx (Adam’s apple) and deepening of voice[3]
Increased stature; adult males are taller than adult females, on average
Heavier skull and bone structure
Increased muscle mass and strength
Larger hands, feet and nose than women, prepubescent boys, and girls
Larger bodies
Square face
Small waist, but wider than females
Broadening of shoulders and chest; shoulders wider than hips[4]
Increased secretions of oil and sweat glands, often causing acne and body odor[3]
Coarsening or rigidity of skin texture due to less subcutaneous fat
Higher waist-to-hip ratio than prepubescent or adult females or prepubescent males, on average
Lower bodyfat percentage than prepubescent or adult females or prepubescent males, on average
Enlargement (growth) of the penis (during puberty)

Nicotine Also acts as an potent Aromasin

Estrogen, the female hormone, or the modern man hormone?

Men always had estrogen more on the low side of the normal ranges, but nowadays, estrogen is rapidly on the rise and men do experience high estrogen symptoms.

It’s not only due to the rapid conversion of testosterone to estrogen, but also the significant amounts of estrogenic compounds that are found in nature, such as phytoestrogens ( natural estrogens certain foods, such as soy and flax), mold, herbicides, food colorants, especially red colourant, birth control in the water, plastics, and so much more.

But apart from the estrogens in nature, we also convert a lot more testosterone into estrogen than we used to a few decades ago. This is due to a couple of reasons that we’ll discuss below.

Blocking the aromatase is crucial for decreasing excess estrogen, whether you have high testosterone or not. Lower activity of aromatase leaves more testosterone to bind with androgen receptors as well as to be converted to DHT via 5-AR (5 alpha reductase), the most potent androgen.

There is increasing controversy whether estrogen is actually very desirable for men and that men on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) need high estrogen, which is “protective”. What most estro-philes that promote TRT don’t tell you is that TRT lowers LH. LH signals the testes to produce what? Testosterone? Now you’re jumping the gun. First and foremost, pregnenolone is created, then progesterone and DHEA and then testosterone. What if I told you pregnenolone, progesterone and DHEA is actually the primary cardioprotectors and not estrogen? But that is for another article.

High Estrogen symptoms include:

  • Pelvic pain
  • Night wakings and sweats (can’t sleep through the night)
  • Hot flashes
  • Edema, puffiness, water retention
  • Increased risk of a migraine
  • Low body temp (can also be low thyroid)
  • Brain fog
  • Frequent urination during the night (small bladder feeling)
  • Struggle to build muscle
  • Gynecomastia
  • Fatigue and depression
  • Poor memory
  • Mood swings
  • Low libido
High estrogen in men increases the risk of prostate cancer, autoimmune diseases, diabetes and many other things…

Keep in mind, estrogen and prolactin go hand in hand and some of these symptoms might be the same. More on lowering prolactin here. Estrogen also increases serotonin and inhibits 5-alpha reductase.

Estrogen is classified as a stress hormone. It increases in times of stress, both physical and emotional. Exercise, on the other hand, is a healthy stressor, and actually helps rid the body of estrogen.

Estrogen:​

  • potently lowers steroidogenesis, much more potent than DHT
  • inhibits DHEA production by inhibiting 17 alpha-hydroxylase and (or) C17-C20 lyase activity (R)
  • can promote thyroid dysfunction as well as autoimmunity by enhancing NADPH oxidase and excess free radical production (R)
  • promotes excess lipolysis that leads to elevated free fatty acids and insulin resistance
  • increases IL-17 (R), an inflammatory cytokine, which is potently correlated with anhedonia and autoimmune disease.
  • increase the risk of stroke and thrombosis (R), by promoting excess blood clotting
  • promotes anxiety
  • increases serotonin production and potentiates the effect of serotonin
  • creates gyno
  • increases total and free cortisol. This effect is blunted by progesterone (R, R)
  • elevates prolactin
  • promotes aldosterone, which causes water retention (R)
  • increases adipogenesis (creation of new fat cells) (R)
  • increases thyroxine-binding globulin, which decreases free thyroid hormones (R)
  • increases fat uptake in the adipose tissue by increasing PPARγ and fatty acid-binding protein (R).
  • increases brain excitation and can contribute to seizures. Aromatase inhibitors are useful against epilepsy (R)
  • Reduces bile flow from the liver to the gallbladder, which can lead to intrahepatic cholestasis (R). This can lead to the skin and whites of the eyes looking yellow, the skin itches, urine is dark, and stools may become light-coloured and smell foul.
  • increases lactate production from glucose which is a very ineffective method of producing energy. Lactate itself also possesses many negative effects (R).
  • promotes migraines (R)
  • causes testicular degeneration (R)
  • decreases FGF21, which result in lower thermogenesis and energy expenditure (R)
 

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Also make you bald
 
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Also make you bald
if you are sensitive yes , first before hopping on finasteride check all your micronutrion there is a big change you are just balding because those nutritions are off, than if you use finasteride dose progesterone with it too (i was shedding because slow working thyroid)
 
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if you are sensitive yes , first before hopping on finasteride check all your micronutrion there is a big change you are just balding because those nutritions are off, than if you use finasteride dose progesterone with it too (i was shedding because slow working thyroid)
Is rather be smaller then bald
 
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Is rather be smaller then bald
Yeah agree but if you know you dont have balding genes DHT is very important

 
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Is DHT cope after puberty?
 
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I literally have balding genes. I am already balding. It is over for me :feelswhy:
 
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Even if your DHT was high as fuck in puberty it wont do shit, you can get the same effects even after puberty for example dick girth increase.
 
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Lmao have fun with lung cancer you retarded fuck
 
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reminder that it destroys collagen, turns teeth yellow, you smell of nicotine, shit for health and addictive, shit thred
 
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Just destroy your skin and smell like shit broooo
 
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On one hand you say take nicotine to boost free DHT.
Then you say, oh yeah, if you're worried about hair loss, take finasteride to lower free DHT.

I didn't think people this stupid existed. Have you even read what you yourself copied and pasted?
 
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Lmao have fun with lung cancer you retarded fuck
Smoking actually protects against lung cancer, but you’ve been brainwashed by THEM so intensely that you won’t even consider that it might be a lie

 
Smoking actually protects against lung cancer, but you’ve been brainwashed by THEM so intensely that you won’t even consider that it might be a lie

Lmao you fucking idiot all the smokers I hang out with said their stamina went to shit after they started smoking. Someone I know who did track for literal years said smoking ruined his stamina. Keep coping and stay addicted to nic lmao.
 
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Just destroy your skin and smell like shit broooo
General mechanisms of nicotine-induced fibrogenesis

Immunosuppressive and Anti-Inflammatory Effects of Nicotine Administered by Patch in an Animal Model

Decreased autoimmunity and inflamation = better skin

Nicotine increases collagen production in fibroblasts and reduces the phagocytosis of collagen. Nicotine has a proliferative effect on fibroblasts. Nicotine stimulates the morphogenesis ... The phagocytosis of collagen is another fibroblast function altered by nicotine (77).
 
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General mechanisms of nicotine-induced fibrogenesis

Immunosuppressive and Anti-Inflammatory Effects of Nicotine Administered by Patch in an Animal Model

Decreased autoimmunity and inflamation = better skin

Nicotine increases collagen production in fibroblasts and reduces the phagocytosis of collagen. Nicotine has a proliferative effect on fibroblasts. Nicotine stimulates the morphogenesis ... The phagocytosis of collagen is another fibroblast function altered by nicotine (77).
Most smokers I know have shitty looking skin
 
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Lmao you fucking idiot all the smokers I hang out with said their stamina went to shit after they started smoking. Someone I know who did track for literal years said smoking ruined his stamina. Keep coping and stay addicted to nic lmao.
placebo effect

exercise is unhealthy for you no wonder all athletes die young and all the centenarians were sedentary, after years of track it's to be expected that his stamina is ruined this guy is dying
 
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placebo effect

exercise is unhealthy for you no wonder all athletes die young and all the centenarians were sedentary, after years of track it's to be expected that his stamina is ruined this guy is dying
I had a feeling you were trolled j needed to check
 
Nigga DHT having a binding affinity 4x higher than test is not a good thing. Sure it binds to androgen receptors but what's it do? In puberty it does good shit but afterwards it JUST raped ur head. Nothing good.
 
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Most smokers I know have shitty looking skin
Because of the negative bias surrounding smoking people who are into a healthy lifestyle will avoid smoking while the ones who don't give a shit about their health will be more likely to pick up smoking I don't think it's the main factor

Also all stimulants deplete nutrients so your nutrition intake must be top notch to use nicotine in a looksmaxxing context
 
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Absolutely retarded thread.

Just fucking take aromasin for 10x better effect and less side effects + cheaper you dumb fucks
 
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Reading this while smoking a cig:p:what:
 
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tldr nigga? 💀

anyway most vape products contain all sorts of cancer like heavy metals :feelshah:
 
I can’t believe that there is a topic that people actually defend the use of nicotine

First, it’s a highly addicted product, which per se is already terrible even if didn’t have any side effects

Also it causes a lot of healthy problems (cancer, impotence, bad stamina, bad humor, huge anxiety, etc)

Also, it’s terrible for looks (yellow teeth, shit skin, aging faster, dull eyes, etc)

Finally, the op made a long treat of the benefits of DHT, I didn’t even needed to read about, but only the fact that it highly trigger baldness already underweight all of the others claimed benefits
 
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I can’t believe that there is a topic that people actually defend the use of nicotine

First, it’s a highly addicted product, which per se is already terrible even if didn’t have any side effects

Also it causes a lot of healthy problems (cancer, impotence, bad stamina, bad humor, huge anxiety, etc)

Also, it’s terrible for looks (yellow teeth, shit skin, aging faster, dull eyes, etc)

Finally, the op made a long treat of the benefits of DHT, I didn’t even needed to read about, but only the fact that it highly trigger baldness already underweight all of the others claimed benefits
''Nicotine alone has alot benefits despide being addictive asfuck so dont recommend it if you aren't using nicotine but all the kids these days are addicted to JUULS so here are reasons to cope with nicotine addiction and say you use it for the benefiting effects instead of your crippeling addiction!'' So i just noted the benefits i am not defending it but yeah got your point it is indeed a shit thread :lul:
 

Huge shit thread.​

larpsanova69 wanting to kill the competition here.

 

Huge shit thread.​

larpsanova69 wanting to kill the competition here.

hahaha i only said in puberty and if you already smoke :lul: but yea shit thread
 
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Nicotine causes delayed skeletal growth.

LOL
Is that a good thing?

I’m 18 can that mean my bones will grow longer?
 
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still cant belieive its you...in some way ...post updated mature pic :Comfy::feelskek:
 
Is that a good thing?

I’m 18 can that mean my bones will grow longer?
ill give you 2" height ...make me 18 again...deal? :feelskek:
 
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vaping sucks just use snuss or pouches
 
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im addicted to those disposable Nic sticks

they are shit and im trying to quit, no benefits after first week
 
im addicted to those disposable Nic sticks

they are shit and im trying to quit, no benefits after first week
True same tho only first week the nicotine buzz was nice
 
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My worst thread ever:feelswhy::feelsgood:
 
True same tho only first week the nicotine buzz was nice
I swear the first week or so if vaping Nic is like crack

so easy to do, doesn't last too long so no worries of acting like a fool like with weed

all I get now is chest pain and anxiety :feelswah:
 
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I swear the first week or so if vaping Nic is like crack

so easy to do, doesn't last too long so no worries of acting like a fool like with weed

all I get now is chest pain and anxiety :feelswah:
Hahaha this.
 

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