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Intro to the Topic
I've looked at many forums that discuss what exactly makes a person attractive. From the ratings forum and threads speaking on evaluating PSL there really is no question on what makes people look good. I believe, however, there is not enough on why we as people have all agreed to this being true. The issue is especially when explaining to Normies the issues that people face when it comes to attractiveness, and they are shunned do to the "superficiality" of it. Bones, hair, muscle, eyes, and skin are all the markers for pre-determined genetic fitness. In simple terms they are traits that females select that will increase viability in their offspring. Going over The Role of Dimo by Rabbi he articulated very well the role that females have in determining the correct mate. Overall there are many traits both genders need to share in order to be considered genetically superior although when it comes to dimorphic features men need to exhibit a lot more. The issue with all of this stems from the fact that this day and age subconscious analysis of these genetic markers is no longer needed due to the quality of life present in modern day civilization. Anyway, this is a guide to understanding how structural failos make people worse candidates for mating because of the inherent biology that is present within our systems.
Health and Youth Indicators
This is the first and most important barrier to entry when it comes to being seen as a viable mate. The purpose of people in a naturalistic sense is to reproduce and have their offsprings reproduce. Men and women both generally need these with men needing it more. There are many aspects that go into what make a person be considered healthy:
Skin
A very obvious point here. Clear, glowing skin is due to collagen production. It signals a youthful appearance and health. There is not much of a need to go into the science of how people perceive skin due to the very obvious and consciousness nature already present. Luckily it is a very changeable thing but unfortunately due to the changeability it will not be a decider in what gets you laid. The reason for that being rarer is more sought after if everyone has clear skin it no longer because a stand out it becomes an expected trait.
Hair
Another pretty obvious footnote here. People see and analyze hair consciously. Styles and preferences in the way it looks may change. However, the desire for what is considered a full head of hair does not change. Linked to nutrition and overall health no one wants to be with someone who is balding.
Maxilla
This is where technicals start in the way we subconsciously analyze people. We are all aware of the flat look that is caused by a recessed maxilla as well as the fact that it dictates jaw growth. The main proponent for its role in genetic fitness though it breathing. Being that we are hunter-gatherer species that rely on endurance in order to catch our prey, we need a good aerobic system to be able to effectively out run what we are chasing. Nose breathing is linked to several benefits (See here) along with being able to allocate oxygen better it helps with things like sleep apnea which reduces risks of heart failure. The maxilla is the bone that allows for this breathability (Maxilla and Nose). A good maxilla creates the way we breathe and is therefore one of the most important features to have. This as well correlates to the jaw because of the form that is followed causing the forward growth look.
Factors of Energetic and Healthy Look
Because of the nature of these mainly being bullet points I have boiled down most of these into how they affect your healthy look.
This entire part is the strangest. There is really no clear cut answer to why we like things are symmetrical even though we do (If you need an explanation look here). However, the fat of the matter is that we do care. We care about how things fit in with each other and shape up. In our ideas of True Adam and True Eve we have very clear idea of what the perfect person looks like. Things like a smaller forehead, flat nasal bridge, and ideal IPD all play a role among the other countless ratios of what we want to see in a person. The sphenoid is the main bone that plays a part into this and serves as another and arguably more important blueprint bone (Sphenoid).
Male Dimorphic Traits
Sexual Dimorphism is a simple topic that has been covered here countless of times. Shown in mammals due to the way we reproduce males need to be a more prominent figure than females. The factor that plays a part into everything to do with sexual dimorphism is based off of testosterone (if you for some reason didn't know). All these traits help with mating because of their desirability and lead to an overall better appearance. This all matters because before our standard uses of communication and deep thinking nature gave us an easier way to distinguish better hormonal production by making it apparent in the way we look.
Bone Mass
Take everything about the need for proper bone structure and apply the increase of their prominence. Test is the part that helps with the prominent jaw or zygos. It makes you stand out because of the fact that people are genetically predispositioned to look for it. Nothing screams dominant male like a sign in the form of bones telling you where he is. Testosterone through studies (Like this one) increase bone mass as a signal for healthy hormonal production. This also plays a part in face shape as a wider face is been correlated with higher test levels. This is the reason for wider faces in males being more attractive.
Ramus
Another prominent trait that is configured in early development by testosterone production. As it holds the marker as one of the known signs of human sexual
dimorphism. it has also been shown to correlate to a better bite force just like zygos but that can also be seen as just nitpicking to find points for this argument. Bottom line is that a well defined ramus through proper body fat % and adequate test production leads to this trait that helps when getting women. This also characterizes the gonions as well as the gonial angle showing ideal proportions for this feature.
Eye Area
Eye area is slightly enhanced through test levels. Although their color and main shape have to do with harmony. What is around them are all dimorphic signals. The amount of hair on your eyebrows is a factor of this. As well as your brow ridge (aka supraorbitals). A prominent brow ridge creates protection from the sun and is caused by test levels. The protector look of the eyes and hunter look is quite literally a play on how we view eyes. Because of their nature of showing genetic fitness in a world of hunters, he best set genetically would undoubtedly be named "hunter".
Frame
This is another important part albeit nothing to do with the face. Main parts of the frame have to do with height, clavicles, and muscle. Muscle definition is easy as it shows fat % as well as shows strength which is an obvious role in determining genetic fitness. Height shows the ability for someone to grow. Not only is it a protector look for the man, but if a female subconsciously wants a child with as little defects as possible, she will choose the taller one as she knows her child has a less chance of having a problem with stunted growth. Clavicles like any other thing about bones for dimorphism are a sign to women telling them that is this a high test man.
Female Dimorphic Traits
This part (even though it has nothing to do with anyone on this forum) is still important due to the nature of the issue that has started all of this being the independent role of looks for attraction. Understanding what not only makes you attractive but what makes you attracted to others is just as important to fixing the issues plaguing the modern dating scene. Unfortunately unlike us women have a lot less traits than men because of their role as the child bearer. They still need to be chosen to some extent but the list of boxes that need to be checked in order to have sex is much less.
Wide Hips
Wide hips or a fat ass is commonly known to be attractive on a women. Being the child is near the hip region hips being wide help with the entire process of going into labor. Wide hips make a fat ass and there you go now you know why.
And that is pretty much it
This is the issue. I have a list of things that would make a female considered to be more attractive like hair, breasts, or sof features. The thing is that because of the production of estrogen in their bodies it creates a lot more avenues for preferences. Women have a lot more freedom in the expression of their looks as estrogen does not play the same role that testosterone does for men.
Conclusion
That pretty much sums up everything. What makes you attractive was never a superficial list created by society in order to create a system for capitalism. Rather, nature has created signals for people to identify whose genetic combination will create another successful person. And once again the issue that stems from this all is that this system is outdated in current society and people for some reason fail to accept that this is reality. To desire for good looking, genetically gifted people is a spit in the face of what society and mankind has pushed to achieve for so long. And it is our biology something we have very little control of.
I've looked at many forums that discuss what exactly makes a person attractive. From the ratings forum and threads speaking on evaluating PSL there really is no question on what makes people look good. I believe, however, there is not enough on why we as people have all agreed to this being true. The issue is especially when explaining to Normies the issues that people face when it comes to attractiveness, and they are shunned do to the "superficiality" of it. Bones, hair, muscle, eyes, and skin are all the markers for pre-determined genetic fitness. In simple terms they are traits that females select that will increase viability in their offspring. Going over The Role of Dimo by Rabbi he articulated very well the role that females have in determining the correct mate. Overall there are many traits both genders need to share in order to be considered genetically superior although when it comes to dimorphic features men need to exhibit a lot more. The issue with all of this stems from the fact that this day and age subconscious analysis of these genetic markers is no longer needed due to the quality of life present in modern day civilization. Anyway, this is a guide to understanding how structural failos make people worse candidates for mating because of the inherent biology that is present within our systems.
Health and Youth Indicators
This is the first and most important barrier to entry when it comes to being seen as a viable mate. The purpose of people in a naturalistic sense is to reproduce and have their offsprings reproduce. Men and women both generally need these with men needing it more. There are many aspects that go into what make a person be considered healthy:
Skin
A very obvious point here. Clear, glowing skin is due to collagen production. It signals a youthful appearance and health. There is not much of a need to go into the science of how people perceive skin due to the very obvious and consciousness nature already present. Luckily it is a very changeable thing but unfortunately due to the changeability it will not be a decider in what gets you laid. The reason for that being rarer is more sought after if everyone has clear skin it no longer because a stand out it becomes an expected trait.
Hair
Another pretty obvious footnote here. People see and analyze hair consciously. Styles and preferences in the way it looks may change. However, the desire for what is considered a full head of hair does not change. Linked to nutrition and overall health no one wants to be with someone who is balding.
Maxilla
This is where technicals start in the way we subconsciously analyze people. We are all aware of the flat look that is caused by a recessed maxilla as well as the fact that it dictates jaw growth. The main proponent for its role in genetic fitness though it breathing. Being that we are hunter-gatherer species that rely on endurance in order to catch our prey, we need a good aerobic system to be able to effectively out run what we are chasing. Nose breathing is linked to several benefits (See here) along with being able to allocate oxygen better it helps with things like sleep apnea which reduces risks of heart failure. The maxilla is the bone that allows for this breathability (Maxilla and Nose). A good maxilla creates the way we breathe and is therefore one of the most important features to have. This as well correlates to the jaw because of the form that is followed causing the forward growth look.
Factors of Energetic and Healthy Look
Because of the nature of these mainly being bullet points I have boiled down most of these into how they affect your healthy look.
- Fat % has been easily proven to show good health as fit people are healthier (no shit)
- High set zygos help with this function as there increase angularity allow for more hollow cheeks and the appearance of lower body fat
- The whites in our eyes indicate health and therefore play a part in the role of attraction
- The infraorbital bone when not prominent enough causes the tired and fatigued look. If you look tired all the time cavewomen does not want you because then their child will be too tired to hunt. Having a properly supported UUE helps with looking rejuvenated (Look here).
- Coloring also takes importance due to the fact that sick people are always described as pale. If you are somewhat tan and can be shown to withstand the UV of the sun that makes you genetically more fit than the guy next to you.
This entire part is the strangest. There is really no clear cut answer to why we like things are symmetrical even though we do (If you need an explanation look here). However, the fat of the matter is that we do care. We care about how things fit in with each other and shape up. In our ideas of True Adam and True Eve we have very clear idea of what the perfect person looks like. Things like a smaller forehead, flat nasal bridge, and ideal IPD all play a role among the other countless ratios of what we want to see in a person. The sphenoid is the main bone that plays a part into this and serves as another and arguably more important blueprint bone (Sphenoid).
Male Dimorphic Traits
Sexual Dimorphism is a simple topic that has been covered here countless of times. Shown in mammals due to the way we reproduce males need to be a more prominent figure than females. The factor that plays a part into everything to do with sexual dimorphism is based off of testosterone (if you for some reason didn't know). All these traits help with mating because of their desirability and lead to an overall better appearance. This all matters because before our standard uses of communication and deep thinking nature gave us an easier way to distinguish better hormonal production by making it apparent in the way we look.
Bone Mass
Take everything about the need for proper bone structure and apply the increase of their prominence. Test is the part that helps with the prominent jaw or zygos. It makes you stand out because of the fact that people are genetically predispositioned to look for it. Nothing screams dominant male like a sign in the form of bones telling you where he is. Testosterone through studies (Like this one) increase bone mass as a signal for healthy hormonal production. This also plays a part in face shape as a wider face is been correlated with higher test levels. This is the reason for wider faces in males being more attractive.
Ramus
Another prominent trait that is configured in early development by testosterone production. As it holds the marker as one of the known signs of human sexual
dimorphism. it has also been shown to correlate to a better bite force just like zygos but that can also be seen as just nitpicking to find points for this argument. Bottom line is that a well defined ramus through proper body fat % and adequate test production leads to this trait that helps when getting women. This also characterizes the gonions as well as the gonial angle showing ideal proportions for this feature.
Eye Area
Eye area is slightly enhanced through test levels. Although their color and main shape have to do with harmony. What is around them are all dimorphic signals. The amount of hair on your eyebrows is a factor of this. As well as your brow ridge (aka supraorbitals). A prominent brow ridge creates protection from the sun and is caused by test levels. The protector look of the eyes and hunter look is quite literally a play on how we view eyes. Because of their nature of showing genetic fitness in a world of hunters, he best set genetically would undoubtedly be named "hunter".
Frame
This is another important part albeit nothing to do with the face. Main parts of the frame have to do with height, clavicles, and muscle. Muscle definition is easy as it shows fat % as well as shows strength which is an obvious role in determining genetic fitness. Height shows the ability for someone to grow. Not only is it a protector look for the man, but if a female subconsciously wants a child with as little defects as possible, she will choose the taller one as she knows her child has a less chance of having a problem with stunted growth. Clavicles like any other thing about bones for dimorphism are a sign to women telling them that is this a high test man.
Female Dimorphic Traits
This part (even though it has nothing to do with anyone on this forum) is still important due to the nature of the issue that has started all of this being the independent role of looks for attraction. Understanding what not only makes you attractive but what makes you attracted to others is just as important to fixing the issues plaguing the modern dating scene. Unfortunately unlike us women have a lot less traits than men because of their role as the child bearer. They still need to be chosen to some extent but the list of boxes that need to be checked in order to have sex is much less.
Wide Hips
Wide hips or a fat ass is commonly known to be attractive on a women. Being the child is near the hip region hips being wide help with the entire process of going into labor. Wide hips make a fat ass and there you go now you know why.
And that is pretty much it
This is the issue. I have a list of things that would make a female considered to be more attractive like hair, breasts, or sof features. The thing is that because of the production of estrogen in their bodies it creates a lot more avenues for preferences. Women have a lot more freedom in the expression of their looks as estrogen does not play the same role that testosterone does for men.
Conclusion
That pretty much sums up everything. What makes you attractive was never a superficial list created by society in order to create a system for capitalism. Rather, nature has created signals for people to identify whose genetic combination will create another successful person. And once again the issue that stems from this all is that this system is outdated in current society and people for some reason fail to accept that this is reality. To desire for good looking, genetically gifted people is a spit in the face of what society and mankind has pushed to achieve for so long. And it is our biology something we have very little control of.
