Why we live in a post mogging world

[6ft4]

I seen a pic on a foid's tinder profile where the foid was with a group of guys and I showed it to another PSLer and we both concluded that what is seen as an NT normie pic today would've been seen as an ND pic in 2018

Basically guys with unkept scraggy hair and moustaches in dickies hoodies/t-shirts and shitty baggy t-shirts over a framecel build

Now in 2018 it was only posh kids with rich parents who adopted such styles and dressed and groomed themselves like slobs because making any degree of effort was regarded as try hard or low class to them
In other words, they have everything handed to them by their parents so in the one area where they don't stack up (mediocre looks wise) they turn the tables so that mogger traits don't matter and making an obvious effort to look better is regarded as try hard

Now this has seeped into wider culture because the majority of men realize they can't stack up to modern standards if competing solely on looks so rather than trying to compete by gymcelling etc, they realize that it's easier to just flip the culture so that no caring about appearance is now seen as the cooler path so actively trying to look unbothered is the route they take which normies realize has more payoff than trying to compete directly on physical traits.

These guys are obsessed with being nonchalant and only ever liking things ironically because caring about anything is uncool, the gymcel who cares about his arms looking big and wearing a tight t-shirt to show them off is now regarded as uncool because he cares.

There's been a fixation on authenticity recently on social media and this is largely because for for the first 15 or so years of social media being popular, it was just a constant game of oneupmanship where standards for what was deemed impressive rose year on year
In the peak influencer era where people were focused massively on their image and being better than others (before "authenticity" pushback) it created an extremely serious atmosphere in dating competition environments because everyone is so concerned about how they're perceived
If you've ever been to a club and immediately after walking in think "this is a wannabe influencer club" the vibe is shit because everyone is so focused on themselves being perceived as high value that nobody actually lets go and has fun

Since 2010, there has been a growing culture where forms of genuine self expression and are seen as cringe and this was reflected in dance music because all of the happy / emotional genres died around that time (eurodance, trance, happy hardcore) and the only music that was seen as NT and safe to like around other people was music without emotion that just triggered a "this is a banger" concensus but had nothing about it that moved people emotionally the way that L'amour Tojours does for example.
(The one genre that maintained melodic emotion through the 2010s was hardstyle and that was a very non NT genre where 90% of the crowd are males, many incel and non NT looking)

Now in the last few years L'amour Tojours has been more culturally popular than during it's release prime when it was competing with other similar songs and it is now the anthem for when people were allowed to openly express emotion or a liking for something positive without having to hide everything behind irony or only allowing themselves to like things with negative emotional coding.

Avicii became giga successful from 2010 until his death because he served as a release valve for the mainstream who wanted to express some joy in spite of the negative culture.

Back to post mogging world, the majority of young males looked at the generation before them who went all out to one-up each other to compete for foids with RTT and optimizing their tinder and instagram accounts and saw that the vast majority of men are destined to lose out by going down this route so it's far easier to for a large section of men to shift the culture to suit them (low effort slob style now seen as cool) rather than competing by gymcelling and fixing their jaws with surgery.

With the rise of "authenticity" and the realization that dating apps and social media were a scam that only benefitted the first movers who were in their physical prime when it was novel, methods of pairing up will correct hard back to familiar environment where all of these status indicators like social media presence and flexing wealth are far less relevant with being maxxed out on looks also being far less relevant

In the coming years we will start to see major fatigue around the culture of "you can only like upbeat things ironically" eg. liking the vengaboys as a joke, and we will see more positive forms of expression coming back into normality, but for the moment, being nonchalant and unbothered is cool while caring about competing is not.
The next step could arguably be: taking care of ones appearance but not as a means to flex like for approval like Tate but rather due to fatigue of everything having to be unbothered
So it will neither be a case of trying hard to impress nor trying hard to look like you don't care, just good old fashion self assurance and good presentation

 

[Deleted member 324441]

holy yap bro, but W conclusion

 

[Tenres]

Good post. I think you hit the nail on the head early, being low effort signals high resources / not being threatened which is attractive for obv reasons. That's why the prescription is to work hard but not make that effort clear to others. To indicate you are high effort is to indicate you lack resources... etc. That being said, its actually true that putting into effort into things that don't seem "imminent" like LMS can be attractive for the same reason. Effort revealed should never be effort towards fundamentals, only some "autistic" hobby that's still NT.

 

[Whiteboard7]

I seen a pic on a foid's tinder profile where the foid was with a group of guys and I showed it to another PSLer and we both concluded that what is seen as an NT normie pic today would've been seen as an ND pic in 2018

Basically guys with unkept scraggy hair and moustaches in dickies hoodies/t-shirts and shitty baggy t-shirts over a framecel build

Now in 2018 it was only posh kids with rich parents who adopted such styles and dressed and groomed themselves like slobs because making any degree of effort was regarded as try hard or low class to them
In other words, they have everything handed to them by their parents so in the one area where they don't stack up (mediocre looks wise) they turn the tables so that mogger traits don't matter and making an obvious effort to look better is regarded as try hard

Now this has seeped into wider culture because the majority of men realize they can't stack up to modern standards if competing solely on looks so rather than trying to compete by gymcelling etc, they realize that it's easier to just flip the culture so that no caring about appearance is now seen as the cooler path so actively trying to look unbothered is the route they take which normies realize has more payoff than trying to compete directly on physical traits.

These guys are obsessed with being nonchalant and only ever liking things ironically because caring about anything is uncool, the gymcel who cares about his arms looking big and wearing a tight t-shirt to show them off is now regarded as uncool because he cares.

There's been a fixation on authenticity recently on social media and this is largely because for for the first 15 or so years of social media being popular, it was just a constant game of oneupmanship where standards for what was deemed impressive rose year on year
In the peak influencer era where people were focused massively on their image and being better than others (before "authenticity" pushback) it created an extremely serious atmosphere in dating competition environments because everyone is so concerned about how they're perceived
If you've ever been to a club and immediately after walking in think "this is a wannabe influencer club" the vibe is shit because everyone is so focused on themselves being perceived as high value that nobody actually lets go and has fun

Since 2010, there has been a growing culture where forms of genuine self expression and are seen as cringe and this was reflected in dance music because all of the happy / emotional genres died around that time (eurodance, trance, happy hardcore) and the only music that was seen as NT and safe to like around other people was music without emotion that just triggered a "this is a banger" concensus but had nothing about it that moved people emotionally the way that L'amour Tojours does for example.
(The one genre that maintained melodic emotion through the 2010s was hardstyle and that was a very non NT genre where 90% of the crowd are males, many incel and non NT looking)

Now in the last few years L'amour Tojours has been more culturally popular than during it's release prime when it was competing with other similar songs and it is now the anthem for when people were allowed to openly express emotion or a liking for something positive without having to hide everything behind irony or only allowing themselves to like things with negative emotional coding.

Avicii became giga successful from 2010 until his death because he served as a release valve for the mainstream who wanted to express some joy in spite of the negative culture.

Back to post mogging world, the majority of young males looked at the generation before them who went all out to one-up each other to compete for foids with RTT and optimizing their tinder and instagram accounts and saw that the vast majority of men are destined to lose out by going down this route so it's far easier to for a large section of men to shift the culture to suit them (low effort slob style now seen as cool) rather than competing by gymcelling and fixing their jaws with surgery.

With the rise of "authenticity" and the realization that dating apps and social media were a scam that only benefitted the first movers who were in their physical prime when it was novel, methods of pairing up will correct hard back to familiar environment where all of these status indicators like social media presence and flexing wealth are far less relevant with being maxxed out on looks also being far less relevant

In the coming years we will start to see major fatigue around the culture of "you can only like upbeat things ironically" eg. liking the vengaboys as a joke, and we will see more positive forms of expression coming back into normality, but for the moment, being nonchalant and unbothered is cool while caring about competing is not.
The next step could arguably be: taking care of ones appearance but not as a means to flex like for approval like Tate but rather due to fatigue of everything having to be unbothered
So it will neither be a case of trying hard to impress nor trying hard to look like you don't care, just good old fashion self assurance and good presentation

Good Thread bhai

 

[infini]

Stoicism is taking more popularity I’ve noticed. With muh don’t react being the norm. Despite those around you freely mouthing off. I’m not sure what to make of it in terms of acceptance as ignoring especially subhumans blaring at you deserve to be put in their place. Or, the less time with retards that you know their place in society the better.

High effort/looks/status I’ve learned does get mired. Those who deny this clearly have not either done enough or logged out.

 

[Th3Man]

Not a word

 

[AryanSchizo]

Every letter

 

[Foodiepill]

w conclusion I believe this is a positive change

 

[Chadethnic101]

I seen a pic on a foid's tinder profile where the foid was with a group of guys and I showed it to another PSLer and we both concluded that what is seen as an NT normie pic today would've been seen as an ND pic in 2018

Basically guys with unkept scraggy hair and moustaches in dickies hoodies/t-shirts and shitty baggy t-shirts over a framecel build

Now in 2018 it was only posh kids with rich parents who adopted such styles and dressed and groomed themselves like slobs because making any degree of effort was regarded as try hard or low class to them
In other words, they have everything handed to them by their parents so in the one area where they don't stack up (mediocre looks wise) they turn the tables so that mogger traits don't matter and making an obvious effort to look better is regarded as try hard

Now this has seeped into wider culture because the majority of men realize they can't stack up to modern standards if competing solely on looks so rather than trying to compete by gymcelling etc, they realize that it's easier to just flip the culture so that no caring about appearance is now seen as the cooler path so actively trying to look unbothered is the route they take which normies realize has more payoff than trying to compete directly on physical traits.

These guys are obsessed with being nonchalant and only ever liking things ironically because caring about anything is uncool, the gymcel who cares about his arms looking big and wearing a tight t-shirt to show them off is now regarded as uncool because he cares.

There's been a fixation on authenticity recently on social media and this is largely because for for the first 15 or so years of social media being popular, it was just a constant game of oneupmanship where standards for what was deemed impressive rose year on year
In the peak influencer era where people were focused massively on their image and being better than others (before "authenticity" pushback) it created an extremely serious atmosphere in dating competition environments because everyone is so concerned about how they're perceived
If you've ever been to a club and immediately after walking in think "this is a wannabe influencer club" the vibe is shit because everyone is so focused on themselves being perceived as high value that nobody actually lets go and has fun

Since 2010, there has been a growing culture where forms of genuine self expression and are seen as cringe and this was reflected in dance music because all of the happy / emotional genres died around that time (eurodance, trance, happy hardcore) and the only music that was seen as NT and safe to like around other people was music without emotion that just triggered a "this is a banger" concensus but had nothing about it that moved people emotionally the way that L'amour Tojours does for example.
(The one genre that maintained melodic emotion through the 2010s was hardstyle and that was a very non NT genre where 90% of the crowd are males, many incel and non NT looking)

Now in the last few years L'amour Tojours has been more culturally popular than during it's release prime when it was competing with other similar songs and it is now the anthem for when people were allowed to openly express emotion or a liking for something positive without having to hide everything behind irony or only allowing themselves to like things with negative emotional coding.

Avicii became giga successful from 2010 until his death because he served as a release valve for the mainstream who wanted to express some joy in spite of the negative culture.

Back to post mogging world, the majority of young males looked at the generation before them who went all out to one-up each other to compete for foids with RTT and optimizing their tinder and instagram accounts and saw that the vast majority of men are destined to lose out by going down this route so it's far easier to for a large section of men to shift the culture to suit them (low effort slob style now seen as cool) rather than competing by gymcelling and fixing their jaws with surgery.

With the rise of "authenticity" and the realization that dating apps and social media were a scam that only benefitted the first movers who were in their physical prime when it was novel, methods of pairing up will correct hard back to familiar environment where all of these status indicators like social media presence and flexing wealth are far less relevant with being maxxed out on looks also being far less relevant

In the coming years we will start to see major fatigue around the culture of "you can only like upbeat things ironically" eg. liking the vengaboys as a joke, and we will see more positive forms of expression coming back into normality, but for the moment, being nonchalant and unbothered is cool while caring about competing is not.
The next step could arguably be: taking care of ones appearance but not as a means to flex like for approval like Tate but rather due to fatigue of everything having to be unbothered
So it will neither be a case of trying hard to impress nor trying hard to look like you don't care, just good old fashion self assurance and good presentation

What’s your thoughts on a. Foids body count, do you care about it in a ltr context if you were ever interested in one? What’s the max if so 5?

Also seen this retardmaxxing thing on insta which is nonchalantly do things to make progress but appear non try hard

 

[trump]

Not a word

 

[subtierjester]

Dnr but good thread