Will finasteride make me LOSE facial hair?

[user1728482728]

Growing a beard really helps cover up my weak chin but im scared I will lose my beard on fin

 

[Saoirsecel]

why tf would that happen

 

[Lux]

If we're talking about oral finasteride it actually makes you grow more hair all over your body. You'd get the opposite of what you're worried about.

 

[Deleted member 6892]

There is a chance it would due to less dht but I doubt it’ll be significant

 

[user1728482728]

If we're talking about oral finasteride it actually makes you grow more hair all over your body. You'd get the opposite of what you're worried about.

You’re thinking of minoxidil retard

 

[user1728482728]

why tf would that happen

Dht nigga

 

[Lux]

You’re thinking of minoxidil retard

facts

 

[FootLongDong]

Im on fin for 6 months

Before I had a full beard and now the beard is still the same
Once the hairs reached Terminal even low DHT won’t effect them

 

[Renaissance.Chad]

Check this out before hopping on Fin, literally the worst thing you can do for your health, you are castrating yourself. Also google "Ray Peat PFS Post Finasteride Syndrome" for some horror stories.

 

[Deleted member 9511]

Check this out before hopping on Fin, literally the worst thing you can do for your health, you are castrating yourself. Also google "Ray Peat PFS Post Finasteride Syndrome" for some horror stories.

What do you suggest norwooders do instead. Nothing else seems to be powerful enough to actually stop miniaturization.

 

[Renaissance.Chad]

What do you suggest norwooders do instead. Nothing else seems to be powerful enough to actually stop miniaturization.

Note:This is not my work. It's from Ray Peat Forum. I've had some success, especially with the AVC rinsing protocol on the scalp.
Zinc also completely stops my shedding when I take it.

Magnesium citrate in high doses (1000-2000mg) for a while will remove calcium from your scalp, allowing circulation again. Do this along with putting your head in a bowl full of apple cider vinegar and sleeping with it still in your hair. Flowers of sulfur taken internally can also decalcify.

Cardio (20-25 mins every day) followed by muscle training (especially squats), this will raise your IGFBP3 (low in male pattern hairloss and prostate cancer) and testosterone. Testosterone is your friend, people with low test and/or very high estrogen lose hair. Never push yourself through cardio or training when it's suffering, progressively increase intensity and loads through time but always do your training in a manner that doesn't leave you stressed and out of energy after. Don't overlook this one, it will greatly help.

Taurine (sometimes 1000mg, generally 200mg every meal), vitamin E (without soy or flax, never take any supps containing those contrarily to what "pisser" wrote earlier, very estrogenic). Vitamin A (raises IGFBP3), very important. Vitamin K2. Magnesium, you can switch to a safer type for bones after, like Magnesium gluconate. Selenium (also raises IGFBP3) but just eat broccolis often, they also block estrogen. No need to supplement progesterone ever, it has a feminizing effect and you don't need to be a castrate to retain your hair. Chill on the caffeine, doesn't help with hair (at least taken internally) and can only hinder if it stresses you. Vitamin B6 p5p (50mg a day), also raises IGFBP3. Type "pubmed igfbp3" + all the things I mention, you'll find results on google. Saturated fats (coconut oil) + no unsaturated fats. Saturated increases tumor-suppressor p53, which activates IGFBP3, unsaturated fats do the opposite. Biotin 500mcg a day. Blood giving, iron decreases igfbp3.

Bicarbonate sodium taken 45 minutes after every meal, will kill off bacteria and raise your Co2 stores. Again CO2 increases IGFBP3 and controls mast cells, which activate calcium signaling. Excess of calcium signaling is the major player in hair loss, that is why magnesium in high doses is very efficicent but also everything that calms and keep calcium in cells. Estrogen and histamine excite cells to trigger calcium signaling. Also, I'd drop the raw carrot, was a waste of time for me and some studies even show it increasing bacterias proved by hydrogen breath test.

BTW, ironically forgot my favorite supp : Zinc picolinate. Steers pretty much every parameters of male hair loss toward protection and growth. Just as zinc is low and copper is high in prostate cancer (estrogenic cancer by nature), they oppose each other. Anti-aromatase, restricts calcium signaling, anti-bacterial (so it lowers histamine), promotes good immunity, increases testosterone. 50mg for a while and then you'll be alright. Some people may use molybdenum to chelate excess copper, but at the same time copper is needed for good hair quality, so you'll need it down the line.

Has stopped regressing for years (3+), my hair is also super thick. My hairline hasn't completely recovered but around NW1, the thing is I was so satisfied with my results and overall physical appearance that I didn't bother continuing with regular apple cider soaking and high dose magnesium citrate, maybe that would do it.

There's two ways of having incredible hair. You can be a nu-male looking like a castrate (I see these people eating at Mcdonalds, even omega 6s and soy won't ruin their hair), or like the super athlete jacked on steroids yet his hairline is still perfect. Well, life isn't all about hair and I'd rather have the physical and mental energy of the athlete (I don't take roids, I just use this image as something to more-or-less push toward). So everything I do, take and avoid is based on high test, low estrogen, high dopamine, low serotonin and the restriction of systemic excitement.


Alright so here's a priority list for you guys, so you can focus on what made the most noticeable results in my experience and for all of this to not get overwhelming.

Actions (those are all important in my experience)

Apple cider vinegar rinsing + leaving it in your hair through the night [calcification]
Calm & controlled breathing [CO2, calcification]
Light cardio (15-25 mins) followed by muscle training [blood/oxygen flow, lymphatic system flow, igfbp3, testosterone] *don't push yourself too much
Blood giving [iron excess, igfbp3]

Supplements (none containing soy or flax)

Drastic :

Magnesium Citrate 1000-2000mg for a while at first [calcification, calcium signal excess]
(In maintenance : Magnesium Gluconate, Glycinate or Bicarbonate 300-600mg)
Coconut Oil (1-2 teaspoons with meals, sometimes 1-2 tablespoons apart from meals to clean gut) [endotoxin]
Bicarbonate Sodium 1-1.5 teaspoon (45 mins after meals) [endotoxin, CO2]

Important :

Zinc Picolinate 50mg for a while at first, then once a week or from food [estrogen, testosterone, calcium signal excess, endotoxin]
Vitamin A 5000 iU [estrogen, calcium signal excess]
Vitamin K2 Carlson 500mcg-1mg [estrogen, calcification]
Taurine 200mg with meals, sometimes 1-2g [calcification]
Vitamin B6 p-5-p 50mg a couple times a week [estrogen, calcium signal excess]
Broccoli (vitamin K, I3C) [estrogen]
Selenium (yeast-free) 80mcg (more can be deleterious to the thyroid) [estrogen]

Helpful :

B1 2mg [estrogen]
B2 2-100mg [estrogen, endotoxin]
Biotin 500mcg [hair quality]
Boron 3-9mg [calcification]
Glycine 1-5g [endotoxin, calcium signal excess]
Copper gluconate 1-2mg [to balance zinc, hair quality]
Flowers of sulphur (? amount) [endotoxin, calcification]
IP6 500mg [iron excess]
Methylene Blue 0.5ml-1ml [estrogen, endotoxin]
Niacinamide 500mg-1.5g sometimes [estrogen, endotoxin]
Other antiseptics like lemon juice in water, garlic and oregano oil

To try if nothing else works :

Molybdenum 500mcg with each meal during a chelation period [excess copper]

 

[user1728482728]

Check this out before hopping on Fin, literally the worst thing you can do for your health, you are castrating yourself. Also google "Ray Peat PFS Post Finasteride Syndrome" for some horror stories.

Yeah but if I didn’t take it I’d gave yo

Note:This is not my work. It's from Ray Peat Forum. I've had some success, especially with the AVC rinsing protocol on the scalp.
Zinc also completely stops my shedding when I take it.

Magnesium citrate in high doses (1000-2000mg) for a while will remove calcium from your scalp, allowing circulation again. Do this along with putting your head in a bowl full of apple cider vinegar and sleeping with it still in your hair. Flowers of sulfur taken internally can also decalcify.

Cardio (20-25 mins every day) followed by muscle training (especially squats), this will raise your IGFBP3 (low in male pattern hairloss and prostate cancer) and testosterone. Testosterone is your friend, people with low test and/or very high estrogen lose hair. Never push yourself through cardio or training when it's suffering, progressively increase intensity and loads through time but always do your training in a manner that doesn't leave you stressed and out of energy after. Don't overlook this one, it will greatly help.

Taurine (sometimes 1000mg, generally 200mg every meal), vitamin E (without soy or flax, never take any supps containing those contrarily to what "pisser" wrote earlier, very estrogenic). Vitamin A (raises IGFBP3), very important. Vitamin K2. Magnesium, you can switch to a safer type for bones after, like Magnesium gluconate. Selenium (also raises IGFBP3) but just eat broccolis often, they also block estrogen. No need to supplement progesterone ever, it has a feminizing effect and you don't need to be a castrate to retain your hair. Chill on the caffeine, doesn't help with hair (at least taken internally) and can only hinder if it stresses you. Vitamin B6 p5p (50mg a day), also raises IGFBP3. Type "pubmed igfbp3" + all the things I mention, you'll find results on google. Saturated fats (coconut oil) + no unsaturated fats. Saturated increases tumor-suppressor p53, which activates IGFBP3, unsaturated fats do the opposite. Biotin 500mcg a day. Blood giving, iron decreases igfbp3.

Bicarbonate sodium taken 45 minutes after every meal, will kill off bacteria and raise your Co2 stores. Again CO2 increases IGFBP3 and controls mast cells, which activate calcium signaling. Excess of calcium signaling is the major player in hair loss, that is why magnesium in high doses is very efficicent but also everything that calms and keep calcium in cells. Estrogen and histamine excite cells to trigger calcium signaling. Also, I'd drop the raw carrot, was a waste of time for me and some studies even show it increasing bacterias proved by hydrogen breath test.

BTW, ironically forgot my favorite supp : Zinc picolinate. Steers pretty much every parameters of male hair loss toward protection and growth. Just as zinc is low and copper is high in prostate cancer (estrogenic cancer by nature), they oppose each other. Anti-aromatase, restricts calcium signaling, anti-bacterial (so it lowers histamine), promotes good immunity, increases testosterone. 50mg for a while and then you'll be alright. Some people may use molybdenum to chelate excess copper, but at the same time copper is needed for good hair quality, so you'll need it down the line.

Has stopped regressing for years (3+), my hair is also super thick. My hairline hasn't completely recovered but around NW1, the thing is I was so satisfied with my results and overall physical appearance that I didn't bother continuing with regular apple cider soaking and high dose magnesium citrate, maybe that would do it.

There's two ways of having incredible hair. You can be a nu-male looking like a castrate (I see these people eating at Mcdonalds, even omega 6s and soy won't ruin their hair), or like the super athlete jacked on steroids yet his hairline is still perfect. Well, life isn't all about hair and I'd rather have the physical and mental energy of the athlete (I don't take roids, I just use this image as something to more-or-less push toward). So everything I do, take and avoid is based on high test, low estrogen, high dopamine, low serotonin and the restriction of systemic excitement.


Alright so here's a priority list for you guys, so you can focus on what made the most noticeable results in my experience and for all of this to not get overwhelming.

Actions (those are all important in my experience)

Apple cider vinegar rinsing + leaving it in your hair through the night [calcification]
Calm & controlled breathing [CO2, calcification]
Light cardio (15-25 mins) followed by muscle training [blood/oxygen flow, lymphatic system flow, igfbp3, testosterone] *don't push yourself too much
Blood giving [iron excess, igfbp3]

Supplements (none containing soy or flax)

Drastic :

Magnesium Citrate 1000-2000mg for a while at first [calcification, calcium signal excess]
(In maintenance : Magnesium Gluconate, Glycinate or Bicarbonate 300-600mg)
Coconut Oil (1-2 teaspoons with meals, sometimes 1-2 tablespoons apart from meals to clean gut) [endotoxin]
Bicarbonate Sodium 1-1.5 teaspoon (45 mins after meals) [endotoxin, CO2]

Important :

Zinc Picolinate 50mg for a while at first, then once a week or from food [estrogen, testosterone, calcium signal excess, endotoxin]
Vitamin A 5000 iU [estrogen, calcium signal excess]
Vitamin K2 Carlson 500mcg-1mg [estrogen, calcification]
Taurine 200mg with meals, sometimes 1-2g [calcification]
Vitamin B6 p-5-p 50mg a couple times a week [estrogen, calcium signal excess]
Broccoli (vitamin K, I3C) [estrogen]
Selenium (yeast-free) 80mcg (more can be deleterious to the thyroid) [estrogen]

Helpful :

B1 2mg [estrogen]
B2 2-100mg [estrogen, endotoxin]
Biotin 500mcg [hair quality]
Boron 3-9mg [calcification]
Glycine 1-5g [endotoxin, calcium signal excess]
Copper gluconate 1-2mg [to balance zinc, hair quality]
Flowers of sulphur (? amount) [endotoxin, calcification]
IP6 500mg [iron excess]
Methylene Blue 0.5ml-1ml [estrogen, endotoxin]
Niacinamide 500mg-1.5g sometimes [estrogen, endotoxin]
Other antiseptics like lemon juice in water, garlic and oregano oil

To try if nothing else works :

Molybdenum 500mcg with each meal during a chelation period [excess copper]

Didn’t read that massive fucking wall of cope

Make pattern baldness is only stopped by blocking dht

 

[Deleted member 9511]

@Renaissance.Chad

You're an absolute legend for putting all this together.

a few questions for you
- how important is it that its Zinc picolinate? will Zinc sulfate do the trick? I have some of it lying around when i was trying to use Zix.
- If just zinc is enough to stop your shedding would that suggest that you just didn't have very serious loss? Maybe had a zinc deficiency rather than MPB? Maybe reached a mature point? not trying to doubt your success just concerned because zinc hasn't done much to stop my shedding.
- what do you mean by 'calm/controlled breathing' is that just breathing slower than one would otherwise?
- do you dilute the ACV? Leaving it in your hair overnight? won't that lead to some irritation?

thanks man, if this works you are my hero

 

[user1728482728]

@Renaissance.Chad

You're an absolute legend for putting all this together.

a few questions for you
- how important is it that its Zinc picolinate? will Zinc sulfate do the trick? I have some of it lying around when i was trying to use Zix.
- If just zinc is enough to stop your shedding would that suggest that you just didn't have very serious loss? Maybe had a zinc deficiency rather than MPB? Maybe reached a mature point? not trying to doubt your success just concerned because zinc hasn't done much to stop my shedding.
- what do you mean by 'calm/controlled breathing' is that just breathing slower than one would otherwise?
- do you dilute the ACV? Leaving it in your hair overnight? won't that lead to some irritation?

thanks man, if this works you are my hero

He’s a coping retard. MPB is caused by dht. Nothing else besides blocking dht works.

 

[Deleted member 9511]

Yeah but if I didn’t take it I’d gave yo

Didn’t read that massive fucking wall of cope

Make pattern baldness is only stopped by blocking dht

You block all these hormones/neurosteroids on fin

If there is an alternative it should be explored.

 

[Renaissance.Chad]

Make pattern baldness is only stopped by blocking dht

That is the old school theory of hairloss. It is so reductionist that I don't even know to begin. It's like blaming the firemen for the fire. Elevated DHT is just there to control the inflammation mayhem.
This is what the folks at hairlosstalk forum still believe in and look where that got them.

@TurboFixer Not sure about Zinc forms.
I'm still fighting to keep my temples. I have barely applied a few of the measures I mentioned, I will do more of them now that I'm moneymaxxed.
It means deep belly breathing.
With the ACV, I either rinse and shower or leave it overnight. It is very effective at removing dandruff and sebum, and it improves circulation in the scalp area, feels good too.

 

[Deleted member 9511]

That is the old school theory of hairloss. It is so reductionist that I don't even know to begin. It's like blaming the firemen for the fire. Elevated DHT is just there to control the inflammation mayhem.
This is what the folks at hairlosstalk forum still believe in and look where that got them.

@TurboFixer Not sure about Zinc forms.
I'm still fighting to keep my temples. I have barely applied a few of the measures I mentioned, I will do more of them now that I'm moneymaxxed.
It means deep belly breathing.
With the ACV, I either rinse and shower or leave it overnight. It is very effective at removing dandruff and sebum, and it improves circulation in the scalp area, feels good too.

I hope you are right about this man. Really appreciate the posts and the clarification. Do you have progress photos of your recovery? Won't blame you for not wanting to post pictures on a place like this its just anything alternate to fin seems to never have any real progress pics anywhere.

 

[Renaissance.Chad]

@TurboFixer Haven't took pics since about a year.
As per personal experimentation:

• Zinc picolinate completely stops any shedding
• D3 + K2 combo also halts hairloss
• Taurine may help in regrowth in the temples area

 

[BrickTop]

@TurboFixer Haven't took pics since about a year.
As per personal experimentation:

• Zinc picolinate completely stops any shedding
• D3 + K2 combo also halts hairloss
• Taurine may help in regrowth in the temples area

Do you suggest rubbing taurine into temples? Or just consuming it in oral form?

 

[Deleted member 9511]

@TurboFixer Haven't took pics since about a year.
As per personal experimentation:

• Zinc picolinate completely stops any shedding
• D3 + K2 combo also halts hairloss
• Taurine may help in regrowth in the temples area

been taking Zinc, D3 and K2 for months and have continuously been shedding really hard for ages. I guess I will buy some taurine.

 

[Deleted member 4645]

Absolutely no chance of happening.

 

[Deleted member 9511]

@TurboFixer Haven't took pics since about a year.
As per personal experimentation:

• Zinc picolinate completely stops any shedding
• D3 + K2 combo also halts hairloss
• Taurine may help in regrowth in the temples area

Do you know of anyone who has used these methods that can back up their claims with photos? I haven't been able to find anyone on the ray peat forums who actually has any legit before after photos.

 

[Renaissance.Chad]

Do you suggest rubbing taurine into temples? Or just consuming it in oral form?

both oral and topical would be great. I took just oral at that time

 

[Renaissance.Chad]

@TurboFixer There are a few success cases, their approach differs to an extent, but it has a lot of similarities, as they share common ideas on nutrition and hormones.

 

[Renaissance.Chad]

been taking Zinc, D3 and K2 for months and have continuously been shedding really hard for ages. I guess I will buy some taurine.

Yeah, this was after coming off low-carb / carnivore and going on high-carb. So that may also had a benefit.
Low-carb is terrible for the hair. The hair follicles need glucose

 

[Deleted member 9511]

@TurboFixer There are a few success cases, their approach differs to an extent, but it has a lot of similarities, as they share common ideas on nutrition and hormones.

I think I saw one guy regrow some hair(with photo proof) while he was hardcore peating - but later it turned out that he had an incredibly severe vitamin D deficiency and correcting it seemed to be the most important part.

I'm not opposed to giving this a shot at all, its just its a little disheartening when no one can back up their(NON FIN/MIN/DUT) claims with photos

How long do you think it takes generally to see results? How important do you think the specific dietary components are of Peating. Like I can i give up most shitty pufas like the trash oils or nuts, but i don't think anyone benefits from giving up eggs. Dairy isn't tolerated well by me either. Giving up grains is pretty limiting too.

 

[Renaissance.Chad]

@TurboFixer Vitamin D deficiency and lack of sunlight is quite common in hairloss. It's not just about taking a pill, it's also about spending time in the sun with the sun rays hitting the scalp.
The first thing is to stop hairfall / shedding. Once that happens, you can shift towards regrowth.
For shedding, you can notice results within days. For regrowth, 3-6 months.

 

[Deleted member 9511]

@TurboFixer Vitamin D deficiency and lack of sunlight is quite common in hairloss. It's not just about taking a pill, it's also about spending time in the sun with the sun rays hitting the scalp.
The first thing is to stop hairfall / shedding. Once that happens, you can shift towards regrowth.
For shedding, you can notice results within days. For regrowth, 3-6 months.

You absolutely sure you had MPB then? It sounds like you had like a bout of telogen effluvium induced by the diet and peating corrected that.

 

[RealSurgerymax]

No

 

[Renaissance.Chad]

@TurboFixer I'm NW2.

 

[bdycope]

Note:This is not my work. It's from Ray Peat Forum. I've had some success, especially with the AVC rinsing protocol on the scalp.
Zinc also completely stops my shedding when I take it.

Magnesium citrate in high doses (1000-2000mg) for a while will remove calcium from your scalp, allowing circulation again. Do this along with putting your head in a bowl full of apple cider vinegar and sleeping with it still in your hair. Flowers of sulfur taken internally can also decalcify.

Cardio (20-25 mins every day) followed by muscle training (especially squats), this will raise your IGFBP3 (low in male pattern hairloss and prostate cancer) and testosterone. Testosterone is your friend, people with low test and/or very high estrogen lose hair. Never push yourself through cardio or training when it's suffering, progressively increase intensity and loads through time but always do your training in a manner that doesn't leave you stressed and out of energy after. Don't overlook this one, it will greatly help.

Taurine (sometimes 1000mg, generally 200mg every meal), vitamin E (without soy or flax, never take any supps containing those contrarily to what "pisser" wrote earlier, very estrogenic). Vitamin A (raises IGFBP3), very important. Vitamin K2. Magnesium, you can switch to a safer type for bones after, like Magnesium gluconate. Selenium (also raises IGFBP3) but just eat broccolis often, they also block estrogen. No need to supplement progesterone ever, it has a feminizing effect and you don't need to be a castrate to retain your hair. Chill on the caffeine, doesn't help with hair (at least taken internally) and can only hinder if it stresses you. Vitamin B6 p5p (50mg a day), also raises IGFBP3. Type "pubmed igfbp3" + all the things I mention, you'll find results on google. Saturated fats (coconut oil) + no unsaturated fats. Saturated increases tumor-suppressor p53, which activates IGFBP3, unsaturated fats do the opposite. Biotin 500mcg a day. Blood giving, iron decreases igfbp3.

Bicarbonate sodium taken 45 minutes after every meal, will kill off bacteria and raise your Co2 stores. Again CO2 increases IGFBP3 and controls mast cells, which activate calcium signaling. Excess of calcium signaling is the major player in hair loss, that is why magnesium in high doses is very efficicent but also everything that calms and keep calcium in cells. Estrogen and histamine excite cells to trigger calcium signaling. Also, I'd drop the raw carrot, was a waste of time for me and some studies even show it increasing bacterias proved by hydrogen breath test.

BTW, ironically forgot my favorite supp : Zinc picolinate. Steers pretty much every parameters of male hair loss toward protection and growth. Just as zinc is low and copper is high in prostate cancer (estrogenic cancer by nature), they oppose each other. Anti-aromatase, restricts calcium signaling, anti-bacterial (so it lowers histamine), promotes good immunity, increases testosterone. 50mg for a while and then you'll be alright. Some people may use molybdenum to chelate excess copper, but at the same time copper is needed for good hair quality, so you'll need it down the line.

Has stopped regressing for years (3+), my hair is also super thick. My hairline hasn't completely recovered but around NW1, the thing is I was so satisfied with my results and overall physical appearance that I didn't bother continuing with regular apple cider soaking and high dose magnesium citrate, maybe that would do it.

There's two ways of having incredible hair. You can be a nu-male looking like a castrate (I see these people eating at Mcdonalds, even omega 6s and soy won't ruin their hair), or like the super athlete jacked on steroids yet his hairline is still perfect. Well, life isn't all about hair and I'd rather have the physical and mental energy of the athlete (I don't take roids, I just use this image as something to more-or-less push toward). So everything I do, take and avoid is based on high test, low estrogen, high dopamine, low serotonin and the restriction of systemic excitement.


Alright so here's a priority list for you guys, so you can focus on what made the most noticeable results in my experience and for all of this to not get overwhelming.

Actions (those are all important in my experience)

Apple cider vinegar rinsing + leaving it in your hair through the night [calcification]
Calm & controlled breathing [CO2, calcification]
Light cardio (15-25 mins) followed by muscle training [blood/oxygen flow, lymphatic system flow, igfbp3, testosterone] *don't push yourself too much
Blood giving [iron excess, igfbp3]

Supplements (none containing soy or flax)

Drastic :

Magnesium Citrate 1000-2000mg for a while at first [calcification, calcium signal excess]
(In maintenance : Magnesium Gluconate, Glycinate or Bicarbonate 300-600mg)
Coconut Oil (1-2 teaspoons with meals, sometimes 1-2 tablespoons apart from meals to clean gut) [endotoxin]
Bicarbonate Sodium 1-1.5 teaspoon (45 mins after meals) [endotoxin, CO2]

Important :

Zinc Picolinate 50mg for a while at first, then once a week or from food [estrogen, testosterone, calcium signal excess, endotoxin]
Vitamin A 5000 iU [estrogen, calcium signal excess]
Vitamin K2 Carlson 500mcg-1mg [estrogen, calcification]
Taurine 200mg with meals, sometimes 1-2g [calcification]
Vitamin B6 p-5-p 50mg a couple times a week [estrogen, calcium signal excess]
Broccoli (vitamin K, I3C) [estrogen]
Selenium (yeast-free) 80mcg (more can be deleterious to the thyroid) [estrogen]

Helpful :

B1 2mg [estrogen]
B2 2-100mg [estrogen, endotoxin]
Biotin 500mcg [hair quality]
Boron 3-9mg [calcification]
Glycine 1-5g [endotoxin, calcium signal excess]
Copper gluconate 1-2mg [to balance zinc, hair quality]
Flowers of sulphur (? amount) [endotoxin, calcification]
IP6 500mg [iron excess]
Methylene Blue 0.5ml-1ml [estrogen, endotoxin]
Niacinamide 500mg-1.5g sometimes [estrogen, endotoxin]
Other antiseptics like lemon juice in water, garlic and oregano oil

To try if nothing else works :

Molybdenum 500mcg with each meal during a chelation period [excess copper]

thanks your th thread. I’m 18 and have NW1, I will just do this to maintain my hairline. Can you link me in future threads like this, unfortunately don’t have acces to best of the best section even

 

[Deleted member 9511]

@TurboFixer I'm NW2.

and you're sure its not just a mature hairline point that you're reached? Its rather unusual that zinc and D3 and K2 could stop shedding on their own right?

 

[bdycope]

Testosterone helps w/ hairgrowth
over time unfortunately your body starts converting much more to DHT
Fin blocks the action of 5-alpha-reductase (DHT converts to 5-alpha-reductase) and causes hairloss
your beard growth has nothing to do with hairloss, as long as you stay high t, healthy etc

 

[Deleted member 9511]

Testosterone helps w/ hairgrowth
over time unfortunately your body starts converting much more to DHT
Fin blocks the action of 5-alpha-reductase (DHT converts to 5-alpha-reductase) and causes hairloss
your beard growth has nothing to do with hairloss, as long as you stay high t, healthy etc

this is not quite right.

Testosterone and DHT are responsible for hair growth. Mainly DHT

Fin blocks the action of the 5ar enzyme so not as much DHT is not converted from testosterone

your beard development has a lot to do with the hormone responsible for hair loss.

Have not heard people complain that they are losing their beards on fin.