Will thumbpulling laterally give me forward growth aswell

[JustCallMeKash]

Or do I need to pull forward after I pull laterally @Clavicular

 

[asdvek]

wdym with forward, where do u place thumb

 

[Shkreliii]

Or do I need to pull forward after I pull laterally @Clavicular

you need to be 4 years old

 

[<6PSLcel]

no, it also wont widen ur maxilla if ur past the age of 16

 

[JustCallMeKash]

no, it also wont widen ur maxilla if ur past the age of 16

I'm 17 and I started puberty late so ill be good

 

[JustCallMeKash]

wdym with forward, where do u place thumb

To laterally I put my fingers all the way into the back of my mouth where my pre molars are and pull on the bone laterally

To pull forward I put my fingers near my canine teeth and pull laterally and forward at the same time because If u only pull forward u won't generate enough force because of the angle

I also don't touch me teeth at all so I'll be good

 

[<6PSLcel]

I'm 17 and I started puberty late so ill be good

that doesnt change when ur sutures fuse

 

[JustCallMeKash]

that doesnt change when ur sutures fuse

Yes is does

 

[<6PSLcel]

Yes is does

nope

 

[asdvek]

nope

brutal, he tryna give himself hope

 

[JustCallMeKash]

nope

I know ur just saying this hoping that I stop and u know I'm right

 

[<6PSLcel]

I know ur just saying this hoping that I stop and u know I'm right

dude idgaf what you do, im just telling you how it is

 

[Funnyunenjoyer1]

no, it also wont widen ur maxilla if ur past the age of 16

it widens maxilla at any age (If it works in theory)

 

[<6PSLcel]

it widens maxilla at any age

No, cuz ur sutures fuse past age 16, watch jaw jacks on YouTube he knows more about everything jaw, palate expansion, maxilla related than everyone on this forum combined and then cubed

 

[ShawarmaFilth]

dude idgaf what you do, im just telling you how it is

Lol ur wrong

 

[<6PSLcel]

Lol ur wrong

Nope, sutures fuse past 16 maybe if you’re very lucky at 18

 

[Funnyunenjoyer1]

No, cuz ur sutures fuse past age 16, watch jaw jacks on YouTube he knows more about everything jaw, palate expansion, maxilla related than everyone on this forum combined and then cubed

yeah, thats why I said in theory and I do know jawhacks.
MSE is the best option to widen the maxilla even if the sutures are closed

 

[<6PSLcel]

yeah, thats why I said in theory and I do know jawhacks.
MSE is the best option to widen the maxilla even if the sutures are closed

That’s because it’s the only method once they fuse, if you’re a youngcel get sarpe or EASE

 

[Funnyunenjoyer1]

That’s because it’s the only method once they fuse, if you’re a youngcel get sarpe or EASE

isn’t sarpe just mse but with surgery

 

[ShawarmaFilth]

Nope, sutures fuse past 16 maybe if you’re very lucky at 18

25 years old, pulled for 2 years iirc

This isnt the only one, you can find many results of the same angle and lighting

His whole mentolabial angle changed

 

[<6PSLcel]

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25 years old, pulled for 2 years iirc

This isnt the only one, you can find many results of the same angle and lighting

His whole mentolabial angle changed

Yes and salludon ascended thanks to mewing

 

[ShawarmaFilth]

Yes and salludon ascended thanks to mewing

This result is no where near sallidons transformation lol

Salludon obviously surgerymaxxee, this guy didnt

 

[<6PSLcel]

isn’t sarpe just mse but with surgery

Partly, the surgical part brings the lefort 1 region forward and if ur in puberty the palate expansion will also widen the maxilla, but MSE doesn’t give forward growth unfortunately just maxilla width, in most cases that’s more important and so if you want both benefits after age 16 you need MSE and then bimax, not to mention SSOT or any other mandible correction surgery

 

[gribsufer1]

Or do I need to pull forward after I pull laterally @Clavicular

do both

 

[gribsufer1]

that doesnt change when ur sutures fuse

I've been doing it since 14 and its worked

 

[ShawarmaFilth]

do both

I do 1 min 30 laterally every hour and 3 mins forward twice a day

 

[<6PSLcel]

I've been doing it since 14 and its worked

Bro I can’t with zoomers and their reading comprehension

 

[Funnyunenjoyer1]

Partly, the surgical part brings the lefort 1 region forward and if ur in puberty the palate expansion will also widen the maxilla, but MSE doesn’t give forward growth unfortunately just maxilla width, in most cases that’s more important and so if you want both benefits after age 16 you need MSE and then bimax, not to mention SSOT or any other mandible correction surgery

but I read online that the surgery only loosens up the satures and doesn’t actually give you forward growth though?

 

[gribsufer1]

Bro I can’t with zoomers and their reading comprehension

I'm 16 now and my sutures are still open

 

[ShawarmaFilth]

Bro I can’t with zoomers and their reading comprehension

But realistically why couldnt you produce the same effects of mse? Esp if you do it full force every hour

 

[<6PSLcel]

but I read online that the surgery only loosens up the satures and doesn’t actually give you forward growth though?

Which ?

 

[<6PSLcel]

But realistically why couldnt you produce the same effects of mse? Esp if you do it full force every hour

Cuz ur shit is fused so the bone won’t move

 

[<6PSLcel]

I'm 16 now and my sutures are still open

Yeah …. ? Dude what’s ur point ?

 

[Funnyunenjoyer1]

Which ?

idk but I couldn’t find data that said sarpe brings the maxilla forward

 

[ShawarmaFilth]

Cuz ur shit is fused so the bone won’t move

Okay but mse moves when ur bone is fused

 

[<6PSLcel]

Okay but mse moves when ur bone is fused

Yes cuz it’s maxilla borne and not teeth borne like sarpe or thumbpulling

 

[ShawarmaFilth]

Yes cuz it’s maxilla borne and not teeth borne like sarpe or thumbpulling

it applies the same force tho

 

[<6PSLcel]

it applies the same force tho

No, it doesn’t, one is widening the maxilla and the other is widening the palate, completely different bones, but before suture fusion widening the palate will widen the maxilla

 

[hallo]

Cuz ur shit is fused so the bone won’t move

"The palatal suture will fuse together at around 14-15 years of age (3). If palatal expansion is attempted between the ages of 7 and 14, the expansion usually contains a mix of skeletal and dental expansion. The younger the age, the more the expansion will be skeletal. If palatal expansion is done with increasing age, the midpalatal sutures fuse and there is often not enough room for palatal expansion. In such cases, most of the movement occurs due to dental expansion."

It's just a fact guys.

 

[hallo]

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[<6PSLcel]

"The palatal suture will fuse together at around 14-15 years of age (3). If palatal expansion is attempted between the ages of 7 and 14, the expansion usually contains a mix of skeletal and dental expansion. The younger the age, the more the expansion will be skeletal. If palatal expansion is done with increasing age, the midpalatal sutures fuse and there is often not enough room for palatal expansion. In such cases, most of the movement occurs due to dental expansion."

It's just a fact guys.

So over