Women don't wanna see manlets/ugly men ascending, they hate it

[UglyGod360]

When I went to the endocrinologist (doctor that has to do with hormones and shit), like 7 months ago I was first confronted with a lady with a nice personality, she seemed pleasant at first, she greeted me and my mom (pre 18 cel so I have to go to appointment with guardian).

I got referred to the Endo because I told my primary care giver (whom was also a female) that I was injecting HGH. Well the endo seemed nice at first but she seemed to get angry at me injecting HGH (inb4 u bluepilled autist on here says she was just concerned for you) she has no reason to be concerned for me, that's not her job, her job is to measure my hormones

But basically I told her I wanted to get taller for the sake of it, that's when her attitude changed, she kept interrupting me when I was talking facts about HGH and my stance on it, just became passive aggressive. She seemed pissed, women just hate men trying to fraud their genetics and such. The foid Endo was the same height as me (5'8) for anyone wondering.

She even stated that the medication I was taking could cause sudden death.

TLDR: WOMEN HATE INFERIOR MEN TRYING TO BECOME CHADS VIA FRAUD OR OTHERWISE

 

[UglyGod360]

Her whole attitude changed when I told her my intentions of growing taller, like I said, she was nice before I said that.

 

[Deleted member 16677]

I've noticed this too for example when I went to a dentist or a dermatologist. Legit feels like they don't even wanna help you if you're a sub5 male

 

[Deleted member 16571]

Find an endocrinologist that (sub)specializes in gear/hormone usage. Most endocrinologists just want to treat thyroid issues, MEN1, etc.

Lastly, was this a pediatric endocrinologist or someone specializing in adults?

 

[metagross]

When I went to the endocrinologist (doctor that has to do with hormones and shit), like 7 months ago I was first confronted with a lady with a nice personality, she seemed pleasant at first, she greeted me and my mom (pre 18 cel so I have to go to appointment with guardian).

I got referred to the Endo because I told my primary care giver (whom was also a female) that I was injecting HGH. Well the endo seemed nice at first but she seemed to get angry at me injecting HGH (inb4 u bluepilled autist on here says she was just concerned for you) she has no reason to be concerned for me, that's not her job, her job is to measure my hormones

But basically I told her I wanted to get taller for the sake of it, that's when her attitude changed, she kept interrupting me when I was talking facts about HGH and my stance on it, just became passive aggressive. She seemed pissed, women just hate men trying to fraud their genetics and such. The foid Endo was the same height as me (5'8) for anyone wondering.

She even stated that the medication I was taking could cause sudden death.

TLDR: WOMEN HATE INFERIOR MEN TRYING TO BECOME CHADS VIA FRAUD OR OTHERWISE

Water tbh.
Women love to fraud their own looks with makeup, etc. but absolutely HATE it when men cheat their genetics. They just want to have a handsome Chad that was born that way. Which is also why it is strongly adviced to not make surgeries etc. as noticable. You don't want women to know that you cheated your genetics.

 

[Deleted member 16380]

When I went to the endocrinologist (doctor that has to do with hormones and shit), like 7 months ago I was first confronted with a lady with a nice personality, she seemed pleasant at first, she greeted me and my mom (pre 18 cel so I have to go to appointment with guardian).

Bro, it has nothing to do with her not wanting you to ascend.

You literally challenged her as a SPECIALIST. You started spouting "facts" you think are true. Etc. Yeah, maybe YOU are right (though i think using HGH is crazy dumb), but it does not matter cause you are challenging HER. AS A PROFESSIONAL.

Now think about it. You studied for 15 years to become a well-paid specialist earning 200+k per year. AND suddenly, a teenager appears at your office, who has no formal education, but starts citing you obscure research, and saying he is gonna "grow cause HGH", while he does not know what growth plates are and cannot name female vs male hormones. Wouldn't YOU be pissed in her shoes? I would.

This is a common behaviour in people. If you had the same MALE specialist, he would probably behave THE SAME.

 

[Deleted member 16380]

I've noticed this too for example when I went to a dentist or a dermatologist. Legit feels like they don't even wanna help you if you're a sub5 male

I am not sub-5, I am probably 5-6/10, but I literally went to a foid dermatologist a few days ago, she was more helpful in my oldcel ascension than all the male plastic surgeons I had visited so far in 3 months before her. I think I am going to go to her.

Also, she explained to me that if I do cheek fillers as I wanted to I would look gay. And other guys before did not know shit about it, so I never even heard such arguments

 

[Hypno]

Maybe she was turned off by your insecurities

 

[Piratecel]

What I always say, subhumans get the fuck off social media and work on yourself. Don't ever talk about male struggles to foids
NEVER!

 

[nosemaxxing]

When I went to the endocrinologist (doctor that has to do with hormones and shit), like 7 months ago I was first confronted with a lady with a nice personality, she seemed pleasant at first, she greeted me and my mom (pre 18 cel so I have to go to appointment with guardian).

I got referred to the Endo because I told my primary care giver (whom was also a female) that I was injecting HGH. Well the endo seemed nice at first but she seemed to get angry at me injecting HGH (inb4 u bluepilled autist on here says she was just concerned for you) she has no reason to be concerned for me, that's not her job, her job is to measure my hormones

But basically I told her I wanted to get taller for the sake of it, that's when her attitude changed, she kept interrupting me when I was talking facts about HGH and my stance on it, just became passive aggressive. She seemed pissed, women just hate men trying to fraud their genetics and such. The foid Endo was the same height as me (5'8) for anyone wondering.

She even stated that the medication I was taking could cause sudden death.

TLDR: WOMEN HATE INFERIOR MEN TRYING TO BECOME CHADS VIA FRAUD OR OTHERWISE

thats why saying that u looksmax is the biggest looksmin to women,

 

[Frank Jack]

Get over it.

 

[TITUS]

This is the reason you keep your looksmaxs secret, not even your gf should know, it's your "me time".
If your gf ever walks into your room while you are dermarolling, or doing any other looksmax, you punch her in the face and knock her out, so she doesn't remember. You need a good hook for this, and that's the reason i started boxing lessons.

I am not sub-5, I am probably 5-6/10, but I literally went to a foid dermatologist a few days ago, she was more helpful in my oldcel ascension than all the male plastic surgeons I had visited so far in 3 months before her. I think I am going to go to her.

Also, she explained to me that if I do cheek fillers as I wanted to I would look gay. And other guys before did not know shit about it, so I never even heard such arguments

Good luck getting butchered by a woman.

 

[Deleted member 2729]

Yea I've noticed it to hate this double moral

 

[LooksOrDeath]

Also, she explained to me that if I do cheek fillers as I wanted to I would look gay.

Did she deadass say that or used different wording?

 

[Deleted member 16380]

Did she deadass say that or used different wording?

I showed her this modification:

In order to create some shadow for hollow-cheek effect (though i cannot get true hollow cheeks cause buccal fat).

She told me "this is a feminine look, and it will look fake". This her precise words.

She told me that men should have not "straight" lateral cheek enhancement like the guy above ^ but to have a kind angular modification, which goes from "lateral to in front of the eye". Like letter "L" reflected horizontally.

Then she also did SMAS-lifting for me and I was very happy with the results. She is the FIRST person who could fucking identify what the problem was. All previous MALE plastic surgeons just nodded their head, no one even explained why i had nasolabials so deep at my age. It is VERY hard to find a specialist who understands shit in facial aesthetics.

But maybe also the problem is she was a dermatologist specializing in aesthetic treatments, while plastic surgery is a different profile altogether

If you are interested, she also told me that the guy on the left:

had buccal fat pad removal

 

[LooksOrDeath]

I showed her this modification:

View attachment 1526128

In order to create some shadow for hollow-cheek effect (though i cannot get true hollow cheeks cause buccal fat).

She told me "this is a feminine look, and it will look fake". This her precise words.

She told me that men should have not "straight" lateral cheek enhancement like the guy above ^ but to have a kind angular modification, which goes from "lateral to in front of the eye". Like letter "L" reflected horizontally.

I'm guessing it's also cause his jaw is pretty narrow that the zygos look feminine.

Then she also did SMAS-lifting for me and I was very happy with the results. She is the FIRST person who could fucking identify what the problem was. All previous MALE plastic surgeons just nodded their head, no one even explained why i had nasolabials so deep at my age. It is VERY hard to find a specialist who understands shit in facial aesthetics.

Based foid

 

[Gaia262]

My experience has been the complete opposite, any girl that I have discussed or shown my plastic surgery results to have been extremely intrigued and supportive of.

As long as the results look Good they fall into line. Its actually an excellent conversation topic.

 

[Deleted member 16380]

My experience has been the complete opposite, any girl that I have discussed or shown my plastic surgery results to have been extremely intrigued and supportive of.

As long as the results look Good they fall into line. Its actually an excellent conversation topic.

Yeah, I think foids themselves are primarily interested. There are not many people who do plastic surgery/cosmetic work, and ofc foids want to know the secrets, and get some advice...

And if it is a male doing them, women probably would pay twice to listen to the "secrets"

 

[Ynot]

Not saying she’s right, but I doubt she was lying bro , stop being so cynical

 

[Edgar]

Female acquaintances were/are supportive of my skinmaxxing though, they said my face has gotten pretty

 

[Deleted member 9467]

I showed her this modification:

View attachment 1526128

In order to create some shadow for hollow-cheek effect (though i cannot get true hollow cheeks cause buccal fat).

She told me "this is a feminine look, and it will look fake". This her precise words.

She told me that men should have not "straight" lateral cheek enhancement like the guy above ^ but to have a kind angular modification, which goes from "lateral to in front of the eye". Like letter "L" reflected horizontally.

Then she also did SMAS-lifting for me and I was very happy with the results. She is the FIRST person who could fucking identify what the problem was. All previous MALE plastic surgeons just nodded their head, no one even explained why i had nasolabials so deep at my age. It is VERY hard to find a specialist who understands shit in facial aesthetics.

But maybe also the problem is she was a dermatologist specializing in aesthetic treatments, while plastic surgery is a different profile altogether

If you are interested, she also told me that the guy on the left:

View attachment 1526139

had buccal fat pad removal

never understood filler

just fix the underlying bones causing the ugliness

 

[Deleted member 16380]

never understood filler

just fix the underlying bones causing the ugliness

That's exactly what filler does though...

 

[Deleted member 9467]

That's exactly what filler does though...

seems like a quick fix thought when you could fix the underlying bones and improve ur health as well

 

[Deleted member 16380]

seems like a quick fix thought when you could fix the underlying bones and improve ur health as well

Lol? How?

Plus, what do facial bones have anything to do with your health?

I mean, you can have a recessed jaw and be healthier than a Chad, though ofc more robust features are correlated somewhat with health i would guess... but not much, that's for certain

 

[randomvanish]

TLDR: WOMEN HATE INFERIOR MEN TRYING TO BECOME CHADS VIA FRAUD OR OTHERWISE

not just women, even your friends don'T want this.

 

[UglyGod360]

I've noticed this too for example when I went to a dentist or a dermatologist. Legit feels like they don't even wanna help you if you're a sub5 male

I legit went to a dentist run by some manlet who's been doing dental work for decades, and all his assistants are foids, not one male. And one of the times I went some Hispanic foid was talking about her celebrity crush which was some statusmaxxed Latino singer

Find an endocrinologist that (sub)specializes in gear/hormone usage. Most endocrinologists just want to treat thyroid issues, MEN1, etc.

Lastly, was this a pediatric endocrinologist or someone specializing in adults?

Pediatric

Bro, it has nothing to do with her not wanting you to ascend.

You literally challenged her as a SPECIALIST. You started spouting "facts" you think are true. Etc. Yeah, maybe YOU are right (though i think using HGH is crazy dumb), but it does not matter cause you are challenging HER. AS A PROFESSIONAL.

Now think about it. You studied for 15 years to become a well-paid specialist earning 200+k per year. AND suddenly, a teenager appears at your office, who has no formal education, but starts citing you obscure research, and saying he is gonna "grow cause HGH", while he does not know what growth plates are and cannot name female vs male hormones. Wouldn't YOU be pissed in her shoes? I would.

This is a common behaviour in people. If you had the same MALE specialist, he would probably behave THE SAME.

Could be. It just makes me mad that she was so stubborn on the idea that I wasn't going to grow, she even went after my dad's height, but there's plenty of kids who grow way taller then their parents.

My experience has been the complete opposite, any girl that I have discussed or shown my plastic surgery results to have been extremely intrigued and supportive of.

As long as the results look Good they fall into line. Its actually an excellent conversation topic.

Imagine conversing with foids, couldn't be me. All they talk about is stupid vapid shit, and they say the most predictable stuff. They're all hive minded.

Not saying she’s right, but I doubt she was lying bro , stop being so cynical

I've been judged by bitches like her my whole life

 

[UglyGod360]

I've noticed this too for example when I went to a dentist or a dermatologist. Legit feels like they don't even wanna help you if you're a sub5 male

Fuck, even when I visited a orthodontist, I asked one of her assistants to measure my gonial angle, Intermolar width, and other PSL stuff, because I wanted to compare it with ideal ratios, she didn't she just asked me if a dentist told me to get this stuff measured

 

[PURE ARYAN GENETICS]

this is also why orthos are completely fine brutally ogring their patients. most of them are holes and they vomit at the thought of ascending anyone let alone a male so when their patients go from subhuman to subhuman despite several years of 'corrective' treatment they feel it's a-ok

 

[MikeMew'sBitch]

It sounds awful but its for the better tbh. Ugly/short men that were naturally not supposed to reproduce should not make any drastic changes to their looks in an attempt to look better, it just produces inferior male children if they make it. Only men supposed to reproduce are top tier chads with mid tier beckies to stacies.

 

[Deleted member 16380]

It sounds awful but its for the better tbh. Ugly/short men that were naturally not supposed to reproduce should not make any drastic changes to their looks in an attempt to look better, it just produces inferior male children if they make it. Only men supposed to reproduce are top tier chads with mid tier beckies to stacies.

You are VERY wrong actually.

This idea about "superior Chad" is bullshit, antievolutionary in fact.

IRL CHAD or a very tall person are what is called "Fisherian runaway" - people who have EXCESSIVE good looks or height. These traits do NOT confer any benefit to survival. In fact, they are COUNTERPRODUCTIVE.

A short person who actually was clever enough to modify his "natural look" is at an advantage over Chad in INTELLECT, because he was able to cheat the genetics itself. Thus, breeding, these short people will also produce men with higher IQ, which is arguably a WAY ORE VALUABLE trait than a square jaw

Being Chad or Tall are in fact anti-evolutionary in a social sense - this will work the same as in peacocks: beautiful males, which are completely useless IRL, and eaten by every single other predator, saved by humans and placed in zoos.

 

[APJ]

My experience has been the complete opposite, any girl that I have discussed or shown my plastic surgery results to have been extremely intrigued and supportive of.

As long as the results look Good they fall into line. Its actually an excellent conversation topic.

Strange. In London I’ve found it a reliable way to tank any date I go on. Even worse if I start being ‘real’ about it (i.e. no bullshit about BDD and saying that I treat surgeries as hacks to get ahead in life), women start seeing me as non-normie freak and want nothing to do with me

 

[Deleted member 16380]

Strange. In London I’ve found it a reliable way to tank any date I go on. Even worse if I start being ‘real’ about it (i.e. no bullshit about BDD and saying that I treat surgeries as hacks to get ahead in life), women start seeing me as non-normie freak and want nothing to do with me

I think it depends on how you mention it.

There is always a way to say one and the same thing in: 1) Cool interesting way 2) Creepy weird way

If you always do (2), then no wonder. But I a not British, so how do I know...

 

[APJ]

I think it depends on how you mention it.

There is always a way to say one and the same thing in: 1) Cool interesting way 2) Creepy weird way

If you always do (2), then no wonder. But I a not British, so how do I know...

It’s ‘creepy and weird’ because doing it (let alone mentioning it) suggests you weren’t properly socialised. Also in the UK people hate ‘self-improvement’, if you try to dress better, go to the gym, clean up your diet, ‘put yourself out there’ dating-wise (let alone facial surgery), people will take the piss no end.

Challenge for you: try and make “so yeah I’m getting major facial surgery so people will treat me better and my career improves [let’s not even go into dating benefits, can you imagine how that would come across]” sound ‘cool and interesting’…

 

[chadmanlet04]

I personally wouldn't want people around me who I mog to suddenly mog me as well, this is classic human nature, not exclusive to women.

 

[Blackpilled1027]

yes and i think i'm in the shit, i started talking about my gymmaxxing like an AW cuck and now literally all my friend know it. That's a huge redpill, very hard for AW and subhuman like me because it's a simple way to talk about your hobbies and when someone is talking about lifting exercices for example, feels like you can't ghost the conversation, way too frustrating

 

[Leviathin]

What I always say, subhumans get the fuck off social media and work on yourself. Don't ever talk about male struggles to foids
NEVER!

greycel moment

 

[Deleted member 15601]

Bro, it has nothing to do with her not wanting you to ascend.

You literally challenged her as a SPECIALIST. You started spouting "facts" you think are true. Etc. Yeah, maybe YOU are right (though i think using HGH is crazy dumb), but it does not matter cause you are challenging HER. AS A PROFESSIONAL.

Now think about it. You studied for 15 years to become a well-paid specialist earning 200+k per year. AND suddenly, a teenager appears at your office, who has no formal education, but starts citing you obscure research, and saying he is gonna "grow cause HGH", while he does not know what growth plates are and cannot name female vs male hormones. Wouldn't YOU be pissed in her shoes? I would.

This is a common behaviour in people. If you had the same MALE specialist, he would probably behave THE SAME.

Just because she was pissed doesn't mean she can act like this. Especially when he is correct.

 

[Deleted member 13588]

Creepy indeed.