You aren't a man if you don't admire Rome

[cromagnon]

The greatest Empire to ever be

BE PROUD OF YOUR ANCESTRY (i'm not italian though)

 

[cromagnon]

 

[anthony111553]

there is no good empire

 

[mvp2v1]

I

The greatest Empire to ever be

BE PROUD OF YOUR ANCESTRY (i'm not italian though)

saarrr your looking at the Roman Empire.

 

[cromagnon]

there is no good empire

 

[Emz]

Ottoman Empire better

 

[StrangerDanger]

Pathetic

 

[cromagnon]

Ottoman Empire better

Pathetic

pure envy

 

[XtrovertNTnormalfag]

They killed a lot of nerdics back in the day.
Enslaved the rest

 

[cromagnon]

They killed a lot of nerdics back in the day.
Enslaved the rest

No more brother wars.

 

[IAMNOTANINCEL]

No more brother wars.

tfym brother wars, theyre brown

 

[XtrovertNTnormalfag]

No more brother wars.

It's not brother wars, Greeks and Romans were different race from the nerdics.
They considered nerdics as distant as blacks.

 

[cromagnon]

It's not brother wars, romans were different race from the nerdics.
They considered nerdics as distant as blacks.

we are all binded by our blood as europeans, anything or anyone that says otherwise is sowing division and preventing unity

we need a european superstate, as mosley envisioned

 

[cromagnon]

tfym brother wars, theyre brown

whos brown, the southern euros?

i agree, most of them are now, but they can be reconquered and exterminated, and we will repopulate it with whites again

 

[XtrovertNTnormalfag]

we are all binded by our blood as europeans, anything or anyone that says otherwise is sowing division and preventing unity

we need a european superstate, as mosley envisioned

Roman empire was not "european" in the way stormfront makes you believe, it was a state centered towards the east, most of larger cities were either in the Middle East or North Africa, and majorty of population were MENA's.
European areas of the empire were Italy, Spain and the Balkans, again nothing to do with the nerdics.

 

[IAMNOTANINCEL]

whos brown, the southern euros?

youre calling southern europeans brothers when theyre brown and always have been

i agree, most of them are now, but they can be reconquered and exterminated, and we will repopulate it with whites again

always have been, they were the ones that built the civilization youre admiring xd

 

[cromagnon]

Roman empire was not "european" in the way stormfront makes you believe, it was a state centered towards the east, most of larger cities were either in the Middle East or North Africa, and majorty of population were MENA's.

it was led by whites and as time went on it was bombarded by hordes of browns since rome heavily relied on slaves

 

[cromagnon]

youre calling southern europeans brothers when theyre brown and always have been

always have been, they were the ones that built the civilization youre admiring xd

they havent always been brown you retard

 

[UrGirlsMcm]

Ottoman Empire better

Turkish cope

 

[IAMNOTANINCEL]

they havent always been brown you retard

yes they have, evolutionarily they had to be brown to be able to thrive in that region, basically the same as the people down under there in africa

 

[Madridista]

Rome was peak masculinity. So was Ancient Greece. The process of becoming a man in Sparta was no joke. You had to earn your manhood. You were not born with it. You had to prove you were worthy of becoming a citizen. Only the strong prevailed like nature intended. Those were the times.

 

[cromagnon]

yes they have, evolutionarily they had to be brown to be able to thrive in that region, basically the same as the people down under there in africa

"In ancient Rome, some valuable descriptions of physical traits are embedded in the biographies of early emperors. The earliest nineteen Roman emperors, from Caesar up to Commodus at the end of the Age of the Antonines in A.D. 192, offer a small but exceptionally useful population sample. Of these nineteen emperors, four have no descriptions and two are described only as gray-haired. But whereas one or perhaps two of the remainder have dark hair, five are described as having fair or fairish hair. And whereas three have dark eyes, nine have blue or grayish eyes, and indeed five of the first seven have blue or grayish eyes. For example, Augustus and Nero had fairish hair and blue eyes, Caesar had dark eyes, and Hadrian had dark hair and blue eyes. Although upper-class Romans tended to have a light pigmentation, they were greatly outnumbered by the Roman masses, who overwhelmingly had dark hair and eyes."

-John V. Day PHD, The Elusive Origins Of The Indo-Europeans

the leaders of roman societies (people who coordinated the empire) were White JFL.

as i said before, the slaves and masses of rome were brown though.

 

[XtrovertNTnormalfag]

it was led by whites and as time went on it was bombarded by hordes of browns since rome heavily relied on slaves

Nonsense. Early Rome was let by swarthy Italics, and later one was led by even swarthier multiethnic elite from all over the mediterranean.
Most prosperous provinces were Egypt and Syria, and most backwards provinces were Britan and Gaul.

 

[cromagnon]

Nonsense. Early Rome was let by swarthy Italics, and later one was led by even swarthier multiethnic elite from all over the mediterranean.
Most prosperous provinces were Egypt and Syria, and most backwards provinces were Britan and Gaul.

no it...wasn't.

prepare to be BTFOed:

"More useful evidence comes in the descriptions of Roman historical figures. One sample of aristocrats is offered by the descriptions of two great figures from the Republic, Cato the Elder and Sulla, and the earliest 19 Emperors from Caesar up to Commodus... Cato the Elder had RED HAIR and GREY EYES... Sulla had GOLDEN HAIR and GREY EYES, Caesar had dark eyes, Augustus had FAIRISH HAIR and BLUE-GREY EYES, Tiberius had GREY-BLUE eyes, Claudius had GREY EYES, Nero had FAIRISH HAIR and GREY-BLUE EYES, Galba had BLUE EYES, Vitellius had GREY EYES, Vespasian had wine-colored eyes, Domitian had FAIR HAIR and GREY EYES, Hadrian was dark-haired and had GREY EYES, Antonius Pius had wine-coloured eyes, Verus had FAIR HAIR, Commodus had FAIR HAIR and GREY EYES. [..]

Strikingly all five Emperors described as light-haired became famous when YOUNG ... Domitian became emperor at 19, Verus became joint emperor at 30 and Commodus became sole emperor at 18, Augustus became triumvir at 20 and Nero became emperor at 16, yet the average age when the 14 others in the sample became emperor is over 46... The youthfulness of the five Emperors who have fair hair implies that if descriptions were available of the other Emperors as young men some of them would also have had light hair. [..]

Although Feist argues that the contemporary interest in Sulla's golden hair points to the scarcity in Rome of light coloring, he forgets that Sulla was aged about 50 when Plutarch reports his becoming consul and even in modern England few men have golden hair at 50. On the other hand sources cannot prove pace Isaac 'that the Romans or other Italian peoples at the beginning of the historical period were predominantly blond'. The descriptions available establish only that early historical roman ARISTOCRATS often had fair hair and usually had grey or blue eyes."

- John V. Day (PhD), Indo-European Origins: The Anthropoligical Evidence

 

[cromagnon]

no it...wasn't.

prepare to be BTFOed:

"More useful evidence comes in the descriptions of Roman historical figures. One sample of aristocrats is offered by the descriptions of two great figures from the Republic, Cato the Elder and Sulla, and the earliest 19 Emperors from Caesar up to Commodus... Cato the Elder had RED HAIR and GREY EYES... Sulla had GOLDEN HAIR and GREY EYES, Caesar had dark eyes, Augustus had FAIRISH HAIR and BLUE-GREY EYES, Tiberius had GREY-BLUE eyes, Claudius had GREY EYES, Nero had FAIRISH HAIR and GREY-BLUE EYES, Galba had BLUE EYES, Vitellius had GREY EYES, Vespasian had wine-colored eyes, Domitian had FAIR HAIR and GREY EYES, Hadrian was dark-haired and had GREY EYES, Antonius Pius had wine-coloured eyes, Verus had FAIR HAIR, Commodus had FAIR HAIR and GREY EYES. [..]

Strikingly all five Emperors described as light-haired became famous when YOUNG ... Domitian became emperor at 19, Verus became joint emperor at 30 and Commodus became sole emperor at 18, Augustus became triumvir at 20 and Nero became emperor at 16, yet the average age when the 14 others in the sample became emperor is over 46... The youthfulness of the five Emperors who have fair hair implies that if descriptions were available of the other Emperors as young men some of them would also have had light hair. [..]

Although Feist argues that the contemporary interest in Sulla's golden hair points to the scarcity in Rome of light coloring, he forgets that Sulla was aged about 50 when Plutarch reports his becoming consul and even in modern England few men have golden hair at 50. On the other hand sources cannot prove pace Isaac 'that the Romans or other Italian peoples at the beginning of the historical period were predominantly blond'. The descriptions available establish only that early historical roman ARISTOCRATS often had fair hair and usually had grey or blue eyes."

- John V. Day (PhD), Indo-European Origins: The Anthropoligical Evidence

"Among Indo-European peoples, the Romans offer an especially useful example because they left masses of records, enabling later historians to determine what became of them. The evidence found in ancient texts implies that this class descended largely from Indo-Europeans who had a DECIDEDLY northern European physical type, although that isn’t something one reads in modern books about Roman history. In Rome, though, the upper class was always a tiny minority. Instead of protecting its interests, it allowed itself to wither away. Consider a bleak statistic. We know of about fifty patrician clans in the fifth century B.C., but by the time of Caesar, in the later first century B.C., only fourteen of these had survived.The decay continued in imperial times. We know of the families of nearly four hundred Roman senators in A.D. sixty five, but, just one generation later, all trace of half of these families had vanished."

- John V. Day PHD, The Elusive Origins Of The Indo-Europeans

 

[XtrovertNTnormalfag]

"In ancient Rome, some valuable descriptions of physical traits are embedded in the biographies of early emperors. The earliest nineteen Roman emperors, from Caesar up to Commodus at the end of the Age of the Antonines in A.D. 192, offer a small but exceptionally useful population sample. Of these nineteen emperors, four have no descriptions and two are described only as gray-haired. But whereas one or perhaps two of the remainder have dark hair, five are described as having fair or fairish hair. And whereas three have dark eyes, nine have blue or grayish eyes, and indeed five of the first seven have blue or grayish eyes. For example, Augustus and Nero had fairish hair and blue eyes, Caesar had dark eyes, and Hadrian had dark hair and blue eyes. Although upper-class Romans tended to have a light pigmentation, they were greatly outnumbered by the Roman masses, who overwhelmingly had dark hair and eyes."

-John V. Day PHD, The Elusive Origins Of The Indo-Europeans

the leaders of roman societies (people who coordinated the empire) were White JFL.

as i said before, the slaves and masses of rome were brown though.

Complete BS with no any backing in population genetics, arcehology, history etc. completely made up.

 

[cromagnon]

"Among Indo-European peoples, the Romans offer an especially useful example because they left masses of records, enabling later historians to determine what became of them. The evidence found in ancient texts implies that this class descended largely from Indo-Europeans who had a DECIDEDLY northern European physical type, although that isn’t something one reads in modern books about Roman history. In Rome, though, the upper class was always a tiny minority. Instead of protecting its interests, it allowed itself to wither away. Consider a bleak statistic. We know of about fifty patrician clans in the fifth century B.C., but by the time of Caesar, in the later first century B.C., only fourteen of these had survived.The decay continued in imperial times. We know of the families of nearly four hundred Roman senators in A.D. sixty five, but, just one generation later, all trace of half of these families had vanished."

- John V. Day PHD, The Elusive Origins Of The Indo-Europeans

''Nell Painter...finds it “astonishing” that the American Nordicist Madison Grant (1865-1937) argued in The Passing of the Great Race (1916) that the Roman nobility was of Nordic origin, yet there is good evidence for this view. There are many lavishly illustrated books about ancient Rome with examples of death masks, busts, and statues that clearly depict the Roman patricians not simply as Europeans but as northern European [..] According to Plutarch, Marcus Porcius Cato had “red hair and grey eyes,” Lucius Cornelius Sulla, the general and dictator, had “blue grey eyes and blond hair,” and Gaius Octavius (Augustus), the first Roman emperor, had “bright eyes and yellow hair.” Recent analysis of an ancient marble bust of the emperor Caligula found particles of the original pigment trapped in the stone. Experts have restored the colors to show that the demented ruler had ruddy skin and red hair.''

- "What Race Were The Greeks And Romans?" by historian John Harrison Sims.

 

[cromagnon]

Complete BS with no any backing in population genetics, arcehology, history etc. completely made up.

not really, it sounds like you're a shitskin coping (no offense)

thats also not a rebuttal.

 

[IAMNOTANINCEL]

"In ancient Rome, some valuable descriptions of physical traits are embedded in the biographies of early emperors. The earliest nineteen Roman emperors, from Caesar up to Commodus at the end of the Age of the Antonines in A.D. 192, offer a small but exceptionally useful population sample. Of these nineteen emperors, four have no descriptions and two are described only as gray-haired. But whereas one or perhaps two of the remainder have dark hair, five are described as having fair or fairish hair. And whereas three have dark eyes, nine have blue or grayish eyes, and indeed five of the first seven have blue or grayish eyes. For example, Augustus and Nero had fairish hair and blue eyes, Caesar had dark eyes, and Hadrian had dark hair and blue eyes. Although upper-class Romans tended to have a light pigmentation, they were greatly outnumbered by the Roman masses, who overwhelmingly had dark hair and eyes."

-John V. Day PHD, The Elusive Origins Of The Indo-Europeans

the leaders of roman societies (people who coordinated the empire) were White JFL.

as i said before, the slaves and masses of rome were brown though.

did you read that book? what does he base that text on?
anyway you just proved my point lol, the people there were brown
even if the higher ups were supposedly lighter colored all their known depictions show them with semitic phenotypes despite the coloring

 

[Gonthar]

 

[cromagnon]

''Nell Painter...finds it “astonishing” that the American Nordicist Madison Grant (1865-1937) argued in The Passing of the Great Race (1916) that the Roman nobility was of Nordic origin, yet there is good evidence for this view. There are many lavishly illustrated books about ancient Rome with examples of death masks, busts, and statues that clearly depict the Roman patricians not simply as Europeans but as northern European [..] According to Plutarch, Marcus Porcius Cato had “red hair and grey eyes,” Lucius Cornelius Sulla, the general and dictator, had “blue grey eyes and blond hair,” and Gaius Octavius (Augustus), the first Roman emperor, had “bright eyes and yellow hair.” Recent analysis of an ancient marble bust of the emperor Caligula found particles of the original pigment trapped in the stone. Experts have restored the colors to show that the demented ruler had ruddy skin and red hair.''

- "What Race Were The Greeks And Romans?" by historian John Harrison Sims.

"There are other questions that enter into the problem of change of race at Rome for the solution of which it is even more difficult to obtain statistics. One asks without hope of a sufficient answer why the native stock did not better hold its own. Yet there are at hand not a few reasons. ..When Italy had been devastated by Hannibal and a large part of its population put to the sword immense bodies of slaves were bought up in the East to fill the void. ..During the first century B.C. the importation of captives and slaves continued while the free-born citizens were being wasted in the social, Sullan and civil wars. Augustus affirms that he had had half a million citizens under arms 1⁄8 of Rome's citizens and that the most vigorous part. During the early empire twenty to thirty legions drawn of course from the best free stock spent their twenty years of vigor in garrison duty while the slaves exempt from such services, lived at home and increased in number."

-Race Mixture in the Roman Empire by Tenney Frank

 

[XtrovertNTnormalfag]

not really, it sounds like you're a shitskin coping (no offense)

thats also not a rebuttal.

Yes really. It is complete BS which goes against literally everyting we know about population genetics, arcehology, history etc. completely made up "we wuz kangs" shit.
I am probably whiter than you and whiter than 90% of this Indian forum.

 

[cromagnon]

did you read that book? what does he base that text on?
anyway you just proved my point lol, the people there were brown
even if the higher ups were supposedly lighter skinned all their known depictions show them with semitic phenotypes

"The author has set himself the task of collecting and summarizing 200 years worth of research on the Indo-European (IE) problem by scholars from diverse disciplines . . . . [A]n invaluable compendium for anyone interested in or researching the IE problem and I, for one, will certainly consult it in the future." one review by a reader

show me your said "known depictions" that depict them with semitic phenotypes

 

[autistic_tendencies]

Rome was ruled by Jewish oligarchs

 

[cromagnon]

Yes really. It is complete BS which goes against literally everyting we know about population genetics, arcehology, history etc. completely made up "we wuz kangs" shit.
I am probably whiter than you and whiter than 90% of this Indian forum.

"it's wrong because i said so, no i will not back anything i said up, you're a shitskin"

i'm Celtic buddy. i'm calling you a shitskin because you're so hellbent on proving the swarthiness of the roman upper class, when they simply were not swarthoids.

not many self-respecting White people would do that...

 

[NoReedemingFeature]

Complete BS with no any backing in population genetics, arcehology, history etc. completely made up.

We were ancient kings oy mate all empires golly gee

 

[IAMNOTANINCEL]

"The author has set himself the task of collecting and summarizing 200 years worth of research on the Indo-European (IE) problem by scholars from diverse disciplines . . . . [A]n invaluable compendium for anyone interested in or researching the IE problem and I, for one, will certainly consult it in the future." one review by a reader

such as? what are the sources of the sources?
you didnt even read the book anyway, you just copied that first passage from a stormfront thread and searched further on google to reply to comments here

show me your said "known depictions" that depict them with semitic phenotypes

you know what im talking about lol, status and coins and that, showed them with hooked noses, bug eyes, etc

 

[cromagnon]

 

[XtrovertNTnormalfag]

"it's wrong because i said so, no i will not back anything i said up, you're a shitskin"

i'm Celtic buddy. i'm calling you a shitskin because you're so hellbent on proving the swarthiness of the roman upper class, when they simply were not swarthoids.

not many self-respecting White people would do that...

You didn't really bring up anything, just a cheap sf type propaganda.
Haha celtic, your celtic ancestors were literally annihilated by the Romans, Celts were the most widespread group of people in pre-Roman Europe and Romans destroyed them, Caesar self-admittedly killed million of Gaulsl and enslaved another million. Lol @ this cucold who worships people who brought the end of Celtic ethnic dominance in Europe.

 

[cromagnon]

such as? what are the sources of the sources?
you didnt even read the book anyway, you just copied that first passage from a stormfront thread and searched further on google to reply to comments here

you know what im talking about lol, status and coins and that, showed them with hooked noses, bug eyes, etc
View attachment 2984676

yeah bro... i just pasted it off of a stormfront thread

go look up the author and book yourself. it's not my obligation to source it twice for you. i gave you a base to search off of

oh yeah man, one coin is every depiction of the roman upper class. thx brah

 

[IAMNOTANINCEL]

oh yeah man, one coin is every depiction of the roman upper class. thx brah

have you ever heard of an "example"
just look up statues and coins of high class romans, all of them look semitic

 

[cromagnon]

You didn't really bring up anything, just a cheap sf type propaganda.
Haha celtic, your celtic ancestors were literally annihilated by Romans, Celts were the most widespread group of people in pre-Roman Europe and Romans destroyed them, Caesar self-admiittedly killed million of Gaulsl and enslaved another million. Lol @ this cucold who worships the people who brought the end of Celtic ethnic dominance in Europe.

im gaelic celtic bud.

nice try tho

 

[cromagnon]

have you ever heard of an "example"
just look up statues and coins of high class romans, all of them look semitic

does this look semitic? no it doesnt

your example was cherrypicked to shit

 

[IAMNOTANINCEL]

View attachment 2984685
does this look semitic? no it doesnt

your example was cherrypicked to shit

yes it does, huge nose, shallow infraglabellar notch, bug eyes

 

[cromagnon]

yes it does, huge nose, shallow infraglabellar notch, bug eyes

not really semitic bud, europeans are a diverse race

also its not like a jewish hooked nose either, just a straight kind of big one

 

[Bushman]

Sassanid Persia Mogs
Cooler Aesthetic.

 

[Deleted member 74042]

Spartans were homosexual