pleasevanity
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I'll start off this post by clarifying. I am a fakecel. I have kissed someone before. I have felt the warm embrace of a girl before. I am by no way shape or form an incel and do not engage in dehumanizing conversations. This is not an attempt to redeem those behaviours.
I have struggled with a lot of things in the past due to my own personal negligence which has caused me to go through a bunch of issues surrounding my social life and to an extent I can understand their perspective.
In my eyes, I believe that being introduced to hypergamy as a young man and feeling disdain or resentment towards women is an understandable stance and doesn't always necessarily equate to a lesser moral character especially if that person is new to the concept. Realising that you'll never be able to compete because women's eyes are set on someone genetically superior to you is a brutal pill that is extremely hard to swallow and can evoke some negative feelings at first. Why wouldn't you feel a certain way when they treat the top 10% as the bare minimum and act like everybody else doesn't exist or is "settling for less"? Women have to be held accountable for their bullshit too and for that I can actually understand that perspective.
An incels problem isn't explicilty tied to love, it's water that Incels experience a disproportionately greater amount of societal struggle than most (made even worse with neurodiversity or foreign ethnicity). This is an obvious struggle that will take a toll on literally anybody. Incels are also unable to be recognised for their struggles and you sometimes have normie foids that have no idea what they're talking about speak about incels as if they chose to be that way. It's condescending and makes it harder for incels to voice their struggle. Think about what that does to someone. If you're an ethnic, have a traumatic past or quite literally are an incel yourself, i'm sure you'd know how it feels to be unable to voice your opinions on something that hurts you because nobody respects you enough to listen other than your own people. Certain forums can be echo chambers that reinforce radical beliefs without a place to receive constructive criticism and that's dangerous. Condemning somebody for that, or rather, looking at their behaviours with a preconceived notion that they can't be helped is not going to make the issue better. These people need therapy, or atleast somebody to get them out of these spaces that enforce harmful thoughts and feelings.
I've seen someone on these forums tell somebody to go to incels.is instead of here because "more people like him think that way there".
Sometimes it's really hard to not feel bad for them. Unlike racism, homophobia or really any form of prejudice, mistreatment towards incels is seen as just or a non issue since they have a negative rep for being violent and insensitive towards women. Yes, a lot of them should be stopped and a lot of them are actual vile weirdos. But the last thing we should do is tell hurting young men that they should be around people like them just because they're hurting a little more than the others. This wasn't a life they chose. They never wanted to be this way and I'd like to think that they just want to be treated like a human being. They shouldn't have to be around degenerates to be able to voice how they feel.
Condemning bad behaviours is fine, but being unable to say you feel bad for them some of them shows a lack of emotional intelligence
I have struggled with a lot of things in the past due to my own personal negligence which has caused me to go through a bunch of issues surrounding my social life and to an extent I can understand their perspective.
In my eyes, I believe that being introduced to hypergamy as a young man and feeling disdain or resentment towards women is an understandable stance and doesn't always necessarily equate to a lesser moral character especially if that person is new to the concept. Realising that you'll never be able to compete because women's eyes are set on someone genetically superior to you is a brutal pill that is extremely hard to swallow and can evoke some negative feelings at first. Why wouldn't you feel a certain way when they treat the top 10% as the bare minimum and act like everybody else doesn't exist or is "settling for less"? Women have to be held accountable for their bullshit too and for that I can actually understand that perspective.
An incels problem isn't explicilty tied to love, it's water that Incels experience a disproportionately greater amount of societal struggle than most (made even worse with neurodiversity or foreign ethnicity). This is an obvious struggle that will take a toll on literally anybody. Incels are also unable to be recognised for their struggles and you sometimes have normie foids that have no idea what they're talking about speak about incels as if they chose to be that way. It's condescending and makes it harder for incels to voice their struggle. Think about what that does to someone. If you're an ethnic, have a traumatic past or quite literally are an incel yourself, i'm sure you'd know how it feels to be unable to voice your opinions on something that hurts you because nobody respects you enough to listen other than your own people. Certain forums can be echo chambers that reinforce radical beliefs without a place to receive constructive criticism and that's dangerous. Condemning somebody for that, or rather, looking at their behaviours with a preconceived notion that they can't be helped is not going to make the issue better. These people need therapy, or atleast somebody to get them out of these spaces that enforce harmful thoughts and feelings.
I've seen someone on these forums tell somebody to go to incels.is instead of here because "more people like him think that way there".
Sometimes it's really hard to not feel bad for them. Unlike racism, homophobia or really any form of prejudice, mistreatment towards incels is seen as just or a non issue since they have a negative rep for being violent and insensitive towards women. Yes, a lot of them should be stopped and a lot of them are actual vile weirdos. But the last thing we should do is tell hurting young men that they should be around people like them just because they're hurting a little more than the others. This wasn't a life they chose. They never wanted to be this way and I'd like to think that they just want to be treated like a human being. They shouldn't have to be around degenerates to be able to voice how they feel.
Condemning bad behaviours is fine, but being unable to say you feel bad for them some of them shows a lack of emotional intelligence
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