You don't need roids if you have normal genes

[sonar bugnar]

99.9% of girls find guys with lean muscular natty physiques hot. There's no need to drop below 10%-12% body fat, and there's no need to be a mass monster. With that said, you still need the combination of good genes and consistency to achieve such a physique. Roid use usually means one or two of three things:
1. You can't build an aesthetic physique naturally which indicates inferior genetics
2. You're trying to be a mass monster which is mostly for male gaze
3. You're trying to be outrageously strong which isn't necessary irl. No important daily tasks will require you to have roid tier strength

To the young dudes reading this, please be patient with natural bodybuilding. It can take 5-7 years to reach your peak natty potential. Many kids are out here jumping the gun and hopping on gear after just 1 year of training and minimal results. My nigga, it's completely normal and expected to not see a ton of change in just one year of lifting. If you can hang in there for just a few more years, you'll be very happy with the way you look, and the best part is you won't have to risk your health and waste thousands of dollars.

Roids age you quicker by nuking your collagen and causing hair loss. They can cause gyno and shrink your balls. They decrease your fertility. They're known to cause high blood pressure and anger issues. I can go on and on. The risk to reward is not worth it, and if you have normal muscle building genes then hopping on gear would be the most retarded decision.

 

[160cmcurry]

 

[Orc]

why would I care what women find attractive, I just want to not hate myself in the mirror.

 

[anthony111553]

why would I care what women find attractive, I just want to not hate myself in the mirror.

luckily your an ethnical natty

 

[Neucher]

Roids age you quicker by nuking your collagen and causing hair loss. They can cause gyno and shrink your balls. They decrease your fertility. They're known to cause high blood pressure and anger issues. I can go on and on. The risk to reward is not worth it, and if you have normal muscle building genes then hopping on gear would be the most retarded decision.

All sides are fixable with the right prescription meds.

 

[Orc]

luckily your an ethnical natty

I'm kind of like a ford ka, the only part about me that isn't made out of plastic is the fuel.

 

[sonar bugnar]

why would I care what women find attractive, I just want to not hate myself in the mirror.

the reason most guys are on this site is because they're trying to be more attractive to women, let's be honest

 

[Orc]

the reason most guys are on this site is because they're trying to be more attractive to women, let's be honest

imagine doing anything for women lmao.

 

[anthony111553]

imagine doing anything for women lmao.

agreed lets kill them

 

[Orc]

agreed lets kill them

trenbolone in the water supply will fix them.

 

[sonar bugnar]

All sides are fixable with the right prescription meds.

Those prescription meds have side effects themselves lmao, and why go through that headache anyway. Just stay natty and you can have a high quality of life in all aspects

 

[dnrwarrior11]

taking roids is fun tho when done safely and correctly

great progress in the gym, feel amazing

obviously there are side effects but they can be minimized and managed

 

[sonar bugnar]

taking roids is fun tho when done safely and correctly

great progress in the gym, feel amazing

obviously there are side effects but they can be minimized and managed

All the progress you need to make for a high quality of life inside and outside of the gym can be made naturally unless you have bad genes. It just may take a bit longer.

They're drugs at the end of the day. There's no "safe" way to go about them. That's cope.

 

[sonar bugnar]

This is what women want:

Not this:

 

[They_are_all_whores]

99.9% of girls find guys with lean muscular natty physiques hot. There's no need to drop below 10%-12% body fat, and there's no need to be a mass monster. With that said, you still need the combination of good genes and consistency to achieve such a physique. Roid use usually means one or two of three things:
1. You can't build an aesthetic physique naturally which indicates inferior genetics
2. You're trying to be a mass monster which is mostly for male gaze
3. You're trying to be outrageously strong which isn't necessary irl. No important daily tasks will require you to have roid tier strength

To the young dudes reading this, please be patient with natural bodybuilding. It can take 5-7 years to reach your peak natty potential. Many kids are out here jumping the gun and hopping on gear after just 1 year of training and minimal results. My nigga, it's completely normal and expected to not see a ton of change in just one year of lifting. If you can hang in there for just a few more years, you'll be very happy with the way you look, and the best part is you won't have to risk your health and waste thousands of dollars.

Roids age you quicker by nuking your collagen and causing hair loss. They can cause gyno and shrink your balls. They decrease your fertility. They're known to cause high blood pressure and anger issues. I can go on and on. The risk to reward is not worth it, and if you have normal muscle building genes then hopping on gear would be the most retarded decision.

A lot of guys here riod for bonemass not muscle mass during puberty

 

[dnrwarrior11]

They're drugs at the end of the day. There's no "safe" way to go about them. That's cope.

oh well, just gonna continue making my gains on my low dose test cycle

 

[Davidproton]

99.9% of girls find guys with lean muscular natty physiques hot. There's no need to drop below 10%-12% body fat, and there's no need to be a mass monster. With that said, you still need the combination of good genes and consistency to achieve such a physique. Roid use usually means one or two of three things:
1. You can't build an aesthetic physique naturally which indicates inferior genetics
2. You're trying to be a mass monster which is mostly for male gaze
3. You're trying to be outrageously strong which isn't necessary irl. No important daily tasks will require you to have roid tier strength

To the young dudes reading this, please be patient with natural bodybuilding. It can take 5-7 years to reach your peak natty potential. Many kids are out here jumping the gun and hopping on gear after just 1 year of training and minimal results. My nigga, it's completely normal and expected to not see a ton of change in just one year of lifting. If you can hang in there for just a few more years, you'll be very happy with the way you look, and the best part is

99.9% of girls find guys with lean muscular natty physiques hot. There's no need to drop below 10%-12% body fat, and there's no need to be a mass monster. With that said, you still need the combination of good genes and consistency to achieve such a physique. Roid use usually means one or two of three things:
1. You can't build an aesthetic physique naturally which indicates inferior genetics
2. You're trying to be a mass monster which is mostly for male gaze
3. You're trying to be outrageously strong which isn't necessary irl. No important daily tasks will require you to have roid tier strength

To the young dudes reading this, please be patient with natural bodybuilding. It can take 5-7 years to reach your peak natty potential. Many kids are out here jumping the gun and hopping on gear after just 1 year of training and minimal results. My nigga, it's completely normal and expected to not see a ton of change in just one year of lifting. If you can hang in there for just a few more years, you'll be very happy with the way you look, and the best part is you won't have to risk your health and waste thousands of dollars.

Roids age you quicker by nuking your collagen and causing hair loss. They can cause gyno and shrink your balls. They decrease your fertility. They're known to cause high blood pressure and anger issues. I can go on and on. The risk to reward is not worth it, and if you have normal muscle building genes then hopping on gear would be the most retarded decision.

you won't have to risk your health and waste thousands of dollars.

Roids age you quicker by nuking your collagen and causing hair loss. They can cause gyno and shrink your balls. They decrease your fertility. They're known to cause high blood pressure and anger issues. I can go on and on. The risk to reward is not worth it, and if you have normal muscle building genes then hopping on gear would be the most retarded decision.

Sorry I can't wait 5 years bhai

 

[sonar bugnar]

Sorry I can't wait 5 years bhai

Are u indian "bhai"? It was over before it began and muscles won't change a thing

 

[sonar bugnar]

oh well, just gonna continue making my gains on my low dose test cycle

to achieve the same physique and strength that guys with good genetics can achieve naturally without all the side effects

 

[dnrwarrior11]

to achieve the same physique and strength that guys with good genetics can achieve naturally without all the side effects

meh idrc as long as I get there what does it matter if the side effects are managed?

 

[sonar bugnar]

meh idrc as long as I get there what does it matter if the side effects are managed?

When you take test, your body stops producing its own because it detects an excess. This can lead to long-term dependence, meaning if you ever come off test, your natural test production would likely be permanently impaired.

oh well, just gonna continue making my gains on my low dose test cycle

And the thing about test is it's not a "cycle", it's a lifelong commitment. Like I previously said, hopping off would stop your natural test production which is dangerous and can seriously worsen your quality of life. It's a shortcut with long-term consequences.

You have to take weekly injections for life. Is that really worth it just to look a little bigger? You'll be stuck to doctors and prescriptions forever. What if test becomes harder to get or more expensive? You'll be stuck.

It's extremely simple to get jacked naturally. Just lift consistently, optimize your nutrition, and get good sleep. Do that for a few years. In reality, the results you'll get on test are probably only 10% more than what you could've achieved naturally. That's a pretty bad risk to reward.

 

[dnrwarrior11]

When you take test, your body stops producing its own because it detects an excess. This can lead to long-term dependence, meaning if you ever come off test, your natural test production would likely be permanently impaired.

thats why theres post cycle therapy after a cycle

 

[Foreverbrad]

When you take test, your body stops producing its own because it detects an excess. This can lead to long-term dependence, meaning if you ever come off test, your natural test production would likely be permanently impaired.


And the thing about test is it's not a "cycle", it's a lifelong commitment. Like I previously said, hopping off would stop your natural test production which is dangerous and can seriously worsen your quality of life. It's a shortcut with long-term consequences.

You have to take weekly injections for life. Is that really worth it just to look a little bigger? You'll be stuck to doctors and prescriptions forever. What if test becomes harder to get or more expensive? You'll be stuck.

It's extremely simple to get jacked naturally. Just lift consistently, optimize your nutrition, and get good sleep. Do that for a few years. In reality, the results you'll get on test are probably only 10% more than what you could've achieved naturally. That's a pretty bad risk to reward.

As someone who takes test, it all comes down to individual response. For me it’s a very easy decision as I get no sides and am able to hold easily 50% more muscle mass than I did natty on just a 500mg of TEST U every two weeks. But I have terrible genes and 280ng/dl natty test.

I definitely agree with the idea that it’s not worth it as a shortcut to a level you could achieve natty though.