You Probably Have Bone Mass, This Is What Really Matters

[bp_1]

You probably have decent bonemass, the reason why your bones arent defined and protuding is usally because of craniofacial deficiencies. Flat midface (midface deficiency), flat maxilla, down grown mandible...list goes on and on.

You will never get that defined look with any amounts of "bone mass" as we can see with the case of Loox and NocturnalKent. Actual bone is usually never the first issue, so blasting roids and smashing your bones will not ascend you as significantly as fixing you cranofacial deficiencies

If you are still in puberty, there is hope. Get MSE (or a bracesshop expander il talk about it later) if you can and pair it with a forward protraction face mask by doctor sandra. this one won't inhibit mandible growth but it does cost 500 usd. The ratio of lateral expansion and forward protraction isnt that good, but this is the best one in the market. The other cheap bracesshop masks inhibit mandible growth so don't go for those. I'm getting a tooth borne expander + mask this summer.


Here's a positive result in some young adult, he did expand by 20mm. He didn't achieve much CCW rotation but the cheekbone increase is very positive. You probably won't get 20mm expansion, (this is likely the largest achieved) but even 10-12mm would be revolutionary for narrowpalatecels.

He looks worse in the lower third region sadly due to lack of a good ratio of forward protraction and a shorter mandible. But I already have a good mandible so I am not too worried. And if you are too broke for mse, you can also get the bracesshop expanders (if young enough) and pair it with facepulling.

Blasting hgh/peptides will be beneficial.

 

[bigc0ckmaleo]

You probably have decent bonemass, the reason why your bones arent defined and protuding is usally because of craniofacial deficiencies. Flat midface (midface deficiency), flat maxilla, down grown mandible...list goes on and on.

You will never get that defined look with any amounts of "bone mass" as we can see with the case of Loox and NocturnalKent. Actual bone is usually never the first issue, so blasting roids and smashing your bones will not ascend you as significantly as fixing you cranofacial deficiencies

If you are still in puberty, there is hope. Get MSE (or a bracesshop expander il talk about it later) if you can and pair it with a forward protraction face mask by doctor sandra. this one won't inhibit mandible growth but it does cost 500 usd. The ratio of lateral expansion and forward protraction isnt that good, but this is the best one in the market. The other cheap bracesshop masks inhibit mandible growth so don't go for those. I'm getting a tooth borne expander + mask this summer.


Here's a positive result in some young adult, he did expand by 20mm. He didn't achieve much CCW rotation but the cheekbone increase is very positive. You probably won't get 20mm expansion, (this is likely the largest achieved) but even 10-12mm would be revolutionary for narrowpalatecels.
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He looks worse in the lower third region sadly due to lack of a good ratio of forward protraction and a shorter mandible. But I already have a good mandible so I am not too worried. And if you are too broke for mse, you can also get the bracesshop expanders (if young enough) and pair it with facepulling.

Blasting hgh/peptides will be beneficial.

i have decent bone placement, main failo being flatter upper maxilla in relation to lower, but regardless i need more bone mass, but yeah not everyone needs more bone mass

 

[bp_1]

i have decent bone placement, main failo being flatter upper maxilla in relation to lower, but regardless i need more bone mass, but yeah not everyone needs more bone mass

more bone mass will be always good, but isolated focus on bone mass while your midface is recessed, maxilla is flat etc (like nocturnal kent) makes you look unnatural and weird

 

[KT-34]

My bonemass is trash and I'm at like 16% bodyfat

 

[bigc0ckmaleo]

more bone mass will be always good, but isolated focus on bone mass while your midface is recessed, maxilla is flat etc (like nocturnal kent) makes you look unnatural and weird

id argue less bone mass in certain cases will be better for you it’s not something that’s like more = better, it can probably fuck over some ratios and overall harmony, hence why roidcels look the way they do

 

[choppedshyt]

the reason why your bones arent defined and protuding is usally because of craniofacial deficiencies. Flat midface (midface deficiency), flat maxilla, down grown mandible...

Wow so the reason my bones aren't defined is because I don't have bones

 

[3Schachteln-den-tag]

You probably have decent bonemass, the reason why your bones arent defined and protuding is usally because of craniofacial deficiencies. Flat midface (midface deficiency), flat maxilla, down grown mandible...list goes on and on.

You will never get that defined look with any amounts of "bone mass" as we can see with the case of Loox and NocturnalKent. Actual bone is usually never the first issue, so blasting roids and smashing your bones will not ascend you as significantly as fixing you cranofacial deficiencies

If you are still in puberty, there is hope. Get MSE (or a bracesshop expander il talk about it later) if you can and pair it with a forward protraction face mask by doctor sandra. this one won't inhibit mandible growth but it does cost 500 usd. The ratio of lateral expansion and forward protraction isnt that good, but this is the best one in the market. The other cheap bracesshop masks inhibit mandible growth so don't go for those. I'm getting a tooth borne expander + mask this summer.


Here's a positive result in some young adult, he did expand by 20mm. He didn't achieve much CCW rotation but the cheekbone increase is very positive. You probably won't get 20mm expansion, (this is likely the largest achieved) but even 10-12mm would be revolutionary for narrowpalatecels.
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He looks worse in the lower third region sadly due to lack of a good ratio of forward protraction and a shorter mandible. But I already have a good mandible so I am not too worried. And if you are too broke for mse, you can also get the bracesshop expanders (if young enough) and pair it with facepulling.

Blasting hgh/peptides will be beneficial.

Looks ass

 

[bp_1]

Wow so the reason my bones aren't defined is because I don't have bones

bone positioning =/= no bones retard

 

[bp_1]

Looks ass

due to ass ratios of expansion to forward protraction. its like for 4mm expansion, 1mm forward protraction.

 

[choppedshyt]

bone positioning =/= no bones retard

Do you actually think that when people say they have no bones they literally mean they don't have any bones on their face?


We all have zygos and a maxilla, the positioning of those bones is quite LITERALLY the only thing that matters

 

[bp_1]

Do you actually think that when people say they have no bones they literally mean they don't have any bones on their face?


We all have zygos and a maxilla, the positioning of those bones is quite LITERALLY the only thing that matters

you are actually an iqcel, why havent you already roped?

 

[𝑺igil]

more bone mass will be always good, but isolated focus on bone mass while your midface is recessed, maxilla is flat etc (like nocturnal kent) makes you look unnatural and weird

How in the hell is his maxilla recessed its literally extremely grown almost perfect

 

[bp_1]

How in the hell is his maxilla recessed its literally extremely grown almost perfect

are you baiting? he has one of the worst maxillas

 

[𝑺igil]

are you baiting? he has one of the worst maxillas

Its comically perfect
What are you talking about

 

[bp_1]

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Its comically perfect
What are you talking about

its extremely recessed, the illusion of "not being that recessed" comes from the fact he hypertrophied his surround bones a lot. But you can see it in his videos too, maxilla is recessed and his midface looks terrible because of it.

 

[i14bytes]

its extremely recessed, the illusion of "not being that recessed" comes from the fact he hypertrophied his surround bones a lot. But you can see it in his videos too, maxilla is recessed and his midface looks terrible because of it.

hypertrophied bones

 

[bp_1]

hypertrophied bones

idk what he did tbh but his bones did grow

 

[Tenzen Thenziro]

positioning of those bones

You probably have decent bonemass, the reason why your bones arent defined and protuding is usally because of craniofacial deficiencies. Flat midface (midface deficiency), flat maxilla, down grown mandible...list goes on and on.

You will never get that defined look with any amounts of "bone mass" as we can see with the case of Loox and NocturnalKent. Actual bone is usually never the first issue, so blasting roids and smashing your bones will not ascend you as significantly as fixing you cranofacial deficiencies

If you are still in puberty, there is hope. Get MSE (or a bracesshop expander il talk about it later) if you can and pair it with a forward protraction face mask by doctor sandra. this one won't inhibit mandible growth but it does cost 500 usd. The ratio of lateral expansion and forward protraction isnt that good, but this is the best one in the market. The other cheap bracesshop masks inhibit mandible growth so don't go for those. I'm getting a tooth borne expander + mask this summer.


Here's a positive result in some young adult, he did expand by 20mm. He didn't achieve much CCW rotation but the cheekbone increase is very positive. You probably won't get 20mm expansion, (this is likely the largest achieved) but even 10-12mm would be revolutionary for narrowpalatecels.
View attachment 3790564View attachment 3790573

He looks worse in the lower third region sadly due to lack of a good ratio of forward protraction and a shorter mandible. But I already have a good mandible so I am not too worried. And if you are too broke for mse, you can also get the bracesshop expanders (if young enough) and pair it with facepulling.

Blasting hgh/peptides will be beneficial.

you can fix that after puberty, dont worry, gonna fix mine with rapid palate expander(normal expander widens the nose), face pulling, growth hormones and hard mewing.

 

[Tenzen Thenziro]

idk what he did tbh but his bones did grow

surgeries lad, mixed with two high IQ people targeting bone growth

 

[bp_1]

surgeries lad, mixed with two high IQ people targeting bone growth

what surgeries would he have gotten? he looks extremely uncanny in a unsettling way. also no way he got surgeries but failed to correct his death tier philtrum and lips.


also he seems to be friends with loox and loox most definitely did not get surgeries. loox looks a lot more reasonably natural too. (loox had a far better base too)

 

[Tenzen Thenziro]

what surgeries would he have gotten? he looks extremely uncanny in a unsettling way. also no way he got surgeries but failed to correct his death tier philtrum and lips.


also he seems to be friends with loox and loox most definitely did not get surgeries. loox looks a lot more reasonably natural too. (loox had a far better base too)

Idk what surgery but seeing his side profile transformation, genio or le fort

 

[bp_1]

Idk what surgery but seeing his side profile transformation, genio or le fort

what do you mean le fort my guy? his midface is brutally recessed.

 

[Tenzen Thenziro]

what do you mean le fort my guy? his midface is brutally recessed.

I remember, saw on Androgenic tik tok, he had a chin collagen implant or something like that(They cut the bone to expand with collagen aidk), a vip course user asked on his tiktok about external factors, recovery, price etc. Besides his transformation is less than a year! Not really fraud but come on.