You Probably Have Bone Mass, This Is What Really Matters

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You probably have decent bonemass, the reason why your bones arent defined and protuding is usally because of craniofacial deficiencies. Flat midface (midface deficiency), flat maxilla, down grown mandible...list goes on and on.

You will never get that defined look with any amounts of "bone mass" as we can see with the case of Loox and NocturnalKent. Actual bone is usually never the first issue, so blasting roids and smashing your bones will not ascend you as significantly as fixing you cranofacial deficiencies

If you are still in puberty, there is hope. Get MSE (or a bracesshop expander il talk about it later) if you can and pair it with a forward protraction face mask by doctor sandra. this one won't inhibit mandible growth but it does cost 500 usd. The ratio of lateral expansion and forward protraction isnt that good, but this is the best one in the market. The other cheap bracesshop masks inhibit mandible growth so don't go for those. I'm getting a tooth borne expander + mask this summer.


Here's a positive result in some young adult, he did expand by 20mm. He didn't achieve much CCW rotation but the cheekbone increase is very positive. You probably won't get 20mm expansion, (this is likely the largest achieved) but even 10-12mm would be revolutionary for narrowpalatecels.
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He looks worse in the lower third region sadly due to lack of a good ratio of forward protraction and a shorter mandible. But I already have a good mandible so I am not too worried. And if you are too broke for mse, you can also get the bracesshop expanders (if young enough) and pair it with facepulling.

Blasting hgh/peptides will be beneficial.
 
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You probably have decent bonemass, the reason why your bones arent defined and protuding is usally because of craniofacial deficiencies. Flat midface (midface deficiency), flat maxilla, down grown mandible...list goes on and on.

You will never get that defined look with any amounts of "bone mass" as we can see with the case of Loox and NocturnalKent. Actual bone is usually never the first issue, so blasting roids and smashing your bones will not ascend you as significantly as fixing you cranofacial deficiencies

If you are still in puberty, there is hope. Get MSE (or a bracesshop expander il talk about it later) if you can and pair it with a forward protraction face mask by doctor sandra. this one won't inhibit mandible growth but it does cost 500 usd. The ratio of lateral expansion and forward protraction isnt that good, but this is the best one in the market. The other cheap bracesshop masks inhibit mandible growth so don't go for those. I'm getting a tooth borne expander + mask this summer.


Here's a positive result in some young adult, he did expand by 20mm. He didn't achieve much CCW rotation but the cheekbone increase is very positive. You probably won't get 20mm expansion, (this is likely the largest achieved) but even 10-12mm would be revolutionary for narrowpalatecels.
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He looks worse in the lower third region sadly due to lack of a good ratio of forward protraction and a shorter mandible. But I already have a good mandible so I am not too worried. And if you are too broke for mse, you can also get the bracesshop expanders (if young enough) and pair it with facepulling.

Blasting hgh/peptides will be beneficial.
i have decent bone placement, main failo being flatter upper maxilla in relation to lower, but regardless i need more bone mass, but yeah not everyone needs more bone mass
 
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i have decent bone placement, main failo being flatter upper maxilla in relation to lower, but regardless i need more bone mass, but yeah not everyone needs more bone mass
more bone mass will be always good, but isolated focus on bone mass while your midface is recessed, maxilla is flat etc (like nocturnal kent) makes you look unnatural and weird
 
My bonemass is trash and I'm at like 16% bodyfat
 
more bone mass will be always good, but isolated focus on bone mass while your midface is recessed, maxilla is flat etc (like nocturnal kent) makes you look unnatural and weird
id argue less bone mass in certain cases will be better for you it’s not something that’s like more = better, it can probably fuck over some ratios and overall harmony, hence why roidcels look the way they do
 
the reason why your bones arent defined and protuding is usally because of craniofacial deficiencies. Flat midface (midface deficiency), flat maxilla, down grown mandible...
Wow so the reason my bones aren't defined is because I don't have bones 😮😮😲😲😳😳😳
 
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You probably have decent bonemass, the reason why your bones arent defined and protuding is usally because of craniofacial deficiencies. Flat midface (midface deficiency), flat maxilla, down grown mandible...list goes on and on.

You will never get that defined look with any amounts of "bone mass" as we can see with the case of Loox and NocturnalKent. Actual bone is usually never the first issue, so blasting roids and smashing your bones will not ascend you as significantly as fixing you cranofacial deficiencies

If you are still in puberty, there is hope. Get MSE (or a bracesshop expander il talk about it later) if you can and pair it with a forward protraction face mask by doctor sandra. this one won't inhibit mandible growth but it does cost 500 usd. The ratio of lateral expansion and forward protraction isnt that good, but this is the best one in the market. The other cheap bracesshop masks inhibit mandible growth so don't go for those. I'm getting a tooth borne expander + mask this summer.


Here's a positive result in some young adult, he did expand by 20mm. He didn't achieve much CCW rotation but the cheekbone increase is very positive. You probably won't get 20mm expansion, (this is likely the largest achieved) but even 10-12mm would be revolutionary for narrowpalatecels.
View attachment 3790564View attachment 3790573

He looks worse in the lower third region sadly due to lack of a good ratio of forward protraction and a shorter mandible. But I already have a good mandible so I am not too worried. And if you are too broke for mse, you can also get the bracesshop expanders (if young enough) and pair it with facepulling.

Blasting hgh/peptides will be beneficial.
Looks ass
 
bone positioning =/= no bones retard
Do you actually think that when people say they have no bones they literally mean they don't have any bones on their face?


We all have zygos and a maxilla, the positioning of those bones is quite LITERALLY the only thing that matters :lul:
 
Do you actually think that when people say they have no bones they literally mean they don't have any bones on their face?


We all have zygos and a maxilla, the positioning of those bones is quite LITERALLY the only thing that matters :lul:
you are actually an iqcel, why havent you already roped?
 
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more bone mass will be always good, but isolated focus on bone mass while your midface is recessed, maxilla is flat etc (like nocturnal kent) makes you look unnatural and weird
How in the hell is his maxilla recessed its literally extremely grown almost perfect
 
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Its comically perfect
What are you talking about
its extremely recessed, the illusion of "not being that recessed" comes from the fact he hypertrophied his surround bones a lot. But you can see it in his videos too, maxilla is recessed and his midface looks terrible because of it.
 

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