You shouldn't cold approach women

[fluoride1337]

The reddit excuse for not doing this is "Heh, that's a great way to get instantly ARRESTED and sent to PRISON and RAPED "

Obviously a cope from failed normies who are just too nervous to approach women in general, these guys are using this excuse to not even warm approach women who give them clear iois.

You should absolutely approach women if you're acquainted, or if you're at a party/social setting, or if she gives you blatant iois.

On the flip side, there are many reasons that cold approaching is not worth it. Women are constantly fed horror stories of creepy (sub5) men cold approaching them thru social media, so that is a clear disadvantage already going against you. This combined with hypergamy makes cold approaching one of the most difficult situations to successfully get slays.

Even the cold approach copers admit this without realizing it. A common thing I see from them is "don't give up brah, I got rejected by 100 women before I got my first phone number!" (which probably led to nothing anyways )

"just spend your saturday cold approaching jbs at the mall bruh! it worked for me! if you still haven't slayed after approaching 100 wahmen you just need to buy my $60/month course!"

If you cold approach hundreds of women, all you are doing is gassing up beckies, increasing hoeflation, and ruining your self esteem. It isn't natural to get rejected by hundreds of women, it's why so many fakecels first get blackpilled from online dating; getting rejected by hundreds of women below your looksmatch is going to blackpill the most bluepilled normie. The funny thing about the apps is that most "rejections" aren't even actual rejections, their profiles were just simply never shown to the people they swiped right on, but it is still devastating to normies who do bad on them. Cold approaching is even worse because you get undeniable, blatant rejections straight to your face.

 

[looksmaxxed]

i cold approach wymxn unshaved, unshowered, teeth unbrushed with a 2cm layer of thrush covering my tongue, tonsiliths poking out stinking like rotten milk

 

[New Poster]

if you can't fuck after asking 100 women out, you're turbocel

 

[fluoride1337]

if you can't fuck after asking 100 women out, you're turbocel

Makes sense considering most cold approach shills are ltn

 

[New Poster]

Makes sense considering most cold approach shills are ltn

most of the shills are ugly af, so there's no hope with any method

 

[Tenshi]

some random dude approaching will not increase hoeflation at all. I've been approaching for over 2 years and I barely interacted with more than 3.000 women. That's nothing.

You'll just need to be able to endure harsh rejections, it's not cool. If you're chad you're missing out by not approaching, you'll have better results naturally.

 

[fluoride1337]

some random dude approaching will not increase hoeflation at all. I've been approaching for over 2 years and I barely interacted with more than 3.000 women. That's nothing.

You'll just need to be able to endure harsh rejections, it's not cool. If you're chad you're missing out by not approaching, you'll have better results naturally.

Well of course chad can cold approach, chad just has to fart in the wind and beckies will come wandering around the corner

 

[haramzada]

i never realized how ugly that canadian nigga is

 

[Whatever]

I’d say that even if you’re good looking and low inhib, by cold approaching you’re coming at the girl from too far outside of her social life, which is the real uphill battle in getting her attention and time.

Not that I do this myself but maybe approaching girls that you’re genuinely attracted to every now and then might be a good way to make yourself low inhib. I wanna do this but I just can’t the first time I see a girl. There was one girl who worked at this store I go to, we locked eyes and it was pretty intense, I decided I’m gonna approach her next time I see her, of course I haven’t seen her since.

 

[Tenshi]

I’d say that even if you’re good looking and low inhib, by cold approaching you’re coming at the girl from too far outside of her social life, which is the real uphill battle in getting her attention and time.

Not that I do this myself but maybe approaching girls that you’re genuinely attracted to every now and then might be a good way to make yourself low inhib. I wanna do this but I just can’t the first time I see a girl. There was one girl who worked at this store I go to, we locked eyes and it was pretty intense, I decided I’m gonna approach her next time I see her, of course I haven’t seen her since.

It's much harder to enter someone's social circle than open random girls.

 

[klip11]

some random dude approaching will not increase hoeflation at all. I've been approaching for over 2 years and I barely interacted with more than 3.000 women. That's nothing.

You'll just need to be able to endure harsh rejections, it's not cool. If you're chad you're missing out by not approaching, you'll have better results naturally.

@Gengar Should cold approach. He's a giga chadpreet and is about to get deported from the Netherlands for mogging the local men. He has caused dozens of suicides. The local men couldn't handle the brutal mogging and roped.

 

[Gengar]

@Gengar Should cold approach. He's a giga chadpreet and is about to get deported from the Netherlands for mogging the local men. He has caused dozens of suicides. The local men couldn't handle the brutal mogging and roped.

Ramblings from the nastiest slums of Nairobi.

 

[Whatever]

It's much harder to enter someone's social circle than open random girls.

Yes but that’s exactly the thing, most attractive young women already have social circles and the guys they meet through them, who are the insiders of her life, get priority over even a Chad on Tinder or Insta. I imagine an attractive guy who approaches her in person would be somewhere in between the two but like I said, because of how girls’ lives are structured, it’s an uphill battle to go from complete stranger to daily sex.

That’s what having a social life in college and getting with and around very outgoing and popular girls of all looks levels taught me, what I never see mentioned is that they straight up don’t have time to be giving out to random guys. That’s just my experience though. Like I said, I can see how cold approaching can work but I see it working more on certain types of girls, because it’s what else she has going on in her life way more than the guy’s looks or game that would make it work.

 

[Tenshi]

Yes but that’s exactly the thing, most attractive young women already have social circles and the guys they meet through them, who are the insiders of her life, get priority over even a Chad on Tinder or Insta. I imagine an attractive guy who approaches her in person would be somewhere in between the two but like I said, because of how girls’ lives are structured, it’s an uphill battle to go from complete stranger to daily sex.

That’s what having a social life in college and getting with and around very outgoing and popular girls of all looks levels taught me, what I never see mentioned is that they straight up don’t have time to be giving out to random guys. That’s just my experience though. Like I said, I can see how cold approaching can work but I see it working more on certain types of girls, because it’s what else she has going on in her life way more than the guy’s looks or game that would make it work.

I mean, if you're approaching you specifically won't be spending too much time ''trying'' to get a certain girl. There was a time where I tried to get inside social circles in college too.

Approaching is like a sales job, it's never your dream job, you kinda get pushed to it by life but you can end up make a lot of profit. In approaching is mostly timing, imo. Most girls usually have good social circles but for whatever reason they just don't want to date guys from it (and not all circle has a mandatory chad either).

But yeah, some girls don't like these guys too. I have a fwb who's quite popular and ''famous'' on tiktok and IG. She's got no shortage of guys. It was just timing for me.

 

[crushing sluts@100%]

some random dude approaching will not increase hoeflation at all. I've been approaching for over 2 years and I barely interacted with more than 3.000 women. That's nothing.

You'll just need to be able to endure harsh rejections, it's not cool. If you're chad you're missing out by not approaching, you'll have better results naturally.

If your chad you won't need to approach you will be warding women away with a stick

Jfl at thinking that chads have to approach to as if everything is some sort of even playing field

 

[crushing sluts@100%]

I’d say that even if you’re good looking and low inhib, by cold approaching you’re coming at the girl from too far outside of her social life, which is the real uphill battle in getting her attention and time.

Not that I do this myself but maybe approaching girls that you’re genuinely attracted to every now and then might be a good way to make yourself low inhib. I wanna do this but I just can’t the first time I see a girl. There was one girl who worked at this store I go to, we locked eyes and it was pretty intense, I decided I’m gonna approach her next time I see her, of course I haven’t seen her since.

Would probably make you higher inhib from failure

It's not like an immunity thing where you build a resistance and non chalance to rejection if your getting rejected itl take a huge blow on your self esteem and confidence you'll become more high inhib

Your better of waiting for an ioi once this happens it's all on you don't be a pussy and in these circumstances you could maybe approach

To get or induce an ioi the best way is to looksmax

But if you do this retarded cold approach thing without reading the room dumb idea

 

[crushing sluts@100%]

Yes but that’s exactly the thing, most attractive young women already have social circles and the guys they meet through them, who are the insiders of her life, get priority over even a Chad on Tinder or Insta.

Nope. They don't get priority over chad people get tall htn and chad mixed up,
They get priority over chadlites and htn but not chad, not a true chad

what I never see mentioned is that they straight up don’t have time to be giving out to random guys.

They have all the time in the world for a random chad,
If she doesn't have time your not good looking enough

That’s just my experience though. Like I said, I can see how cold approaching can work but I see it working more on certain types of girls, because it’s what else she has going on in her life way more than the guy’s looks or game that would make it work.

 

[Whatever]

Nope. They don't get priority over chad people get tall htn and chad mixed up,
They get priority over chadlites and htn but not chad, not a true chad


They have all the time in the world for a random chad,
If she doesn't have time your not good looking enough

I exaggerated, a true Chad doesn’t need a social circle but true Chads are so rare that this is almost a non-issue and most attractive prime girls just fuck guys from their social circle and on nights out instead. What I’ve seen firsthand is that their social lives are so busy and give them so many options that even good looks on their own doesn’t mean that much to them, and they won’t take the apps seriously unless it’s to get at guys who they don’t have access to in real life, like rich older guys or even celebrities. Like if anyone here still thinks that being a tall HTN is gonna get them in the mix without a social life I’ve got bad news.

And I’ve been on the other side of this, the girls I pulled through social circle fog almost every match on the apps that I’ve ever had, and they were the ones asking for my time. Life would be easier if there wasn’t this social requirement, I’m not defending it, it means basically that nothing less than looksmaxing to Chad or sugar daddying will get me those opportunities again.

As for approaching girls who give you IOIs. I have gotten my share of IOIs myself and even talked to girls vaguely about them. There are IOIs that are just a simple acknowledgment of “you’re hot”, and then there are some that depending on the time and place you cross paths can be a legit opportunity to talk or even go home for sex. So this is another thing that points to the social requirement because obviously when you get an IOI at a party or bar it’s much easier to turn it into a date or a slay.

 

[Tenshi]

If your chad you won't need to approach you will be warding women away with a stick

Jfl at thinking that chads have to approach to as if everything is some sort of even playing field

if you're ok with trash women waay below your looks then yeah, you won't need to approach as a chad.

 

[crushing sluts@100%]

I exaggerated, a true Chad doesn’t need a social circle but true Chads are so rare that this is almost a non-issue and most attractive prime girls just fuck guys from their social circle and on nights out instead. What I’ve seen firsthand is that their social lives are so busy and give them so many options that even good looks on their own doesn’t mean that much to them, and they won’t take the apps seriously unless it’s to get at guys who they don’t have access to in real life, like rich older guys or even celebrities. Like if anyone here still thinks that being a tall HTN is gonna get them in the mix without a social life I’ve got bad news.

And I’ve been on the other side of this, the girls I pulled through social circle fog almost every match on the apps that I’ve ever had, and they were the ones asking for my time. Life would be easier if there wasn’t this social requirement, I’m not defending it, it means basically that nothing less than looksmaxing to Chad or sugar daddying will get me those opportunities again.

As for approaching girls who give you IOIs. I have gotten my share of IOIs myself and even talked to girls vaguely about them. There are IOIs that are just a simple acknowledgment of “you’re hot”, and then there are some that depending on the time and place you cross paths can be a legit opportunity to talk or even go home for sex. So this is another thing that points to the social requirement because obviously when you get an IOI at a party or bar it’s much easier to turn it into a date or a slay.

Very good points I agree there social lives are very busy

The only other way a htn using looks alone could pull I think is the "just be her type theory"

What are your thoughts on this, because I've experienced where in a few rare instances with a girl I'm a chad to her and have had them throw themselves at me and I received chad treatment they were also good looking girls
I think the difference between this and a true chad is that if your a real chad your every girls type and you receive that treatment from all of them
So I guess there is hope for the Htns if there lucky they might encounter one of these scenarios. And the good news is that with these rare anomalies the looks of the girl can vary and she could be really hot and don't think she'll always just be a subhuman she could be anyone.

I know that all sounds bluepilled but I've experienced the just be her type first hand, and it's not even type it's just you, unless there were clones of you no one else gets that treatment, the bad news is that this is super fuckin rare.
This is also the reason I don't really approach because those rare anomalies are the only ones you could pull as a mtn or htn but the irony is that you'll never need to approach those girls cause they will approach you, which means if your approaching a girl that stands to reason that she hasn't approached you which automatically disqualifies her as being one of those girls so you'll then be faced with the self fulfilling prophecy of rejection.
So that's really all I think we can do as mtns and htns is to wait for one of these rare scenarios.

Have you experienced just be her type what are your thoughts on this

 

[crushing sluts@100%]

if you're ok with trash women waay below your looks then yeah, you won't need to approach as a chad.

Wdym hot girls approach chad fuck sakes hot girls sometimes even approach htns

 

[Tenshi]

Wdym hot girls approach chad fuck sakes hot girls sometimes even approach htns

hot is a very broad and subjective term, plus drunk skanks are not exactly what I'd be aiming for.

hot quality girls don't really need to approach anyone, and honestly they shouldn't. It's not their job.

 

[bourgeoizyzz]

does it count as cold approach if i store them in my freezer

 

[crushing sluts@100%]

hot is a very broad and subjective term, plus drunk skanks are not exactly what I'd be aiming for.

hot quality girls don't really need to approach anyone, and honestly they shouldn't. It's not their job.

Yea but an approach is not always just this mathematical thing of going up and just asking someone out
Girls approach all the time they don't usually do it like pua retards with numbers, they just show interest, and signs then they use innuendos to ask you out or invite you somewhere some might be more or less direct

Why is it not there job, it's not anyone's job it's not a job,
I actually think you should wait for them to approach because any girl that likes you will probably approach and so the fact that your approaching means she hasn't approached you meaning she probably doesn't like you which leads to the self fulfilling prophecy of rejection, this is why I think letting them approach is the best way
And if you are going to approach than it should be after they gave some iois

 

[Tenshi]

Yea but an approach is not always just this mathematical thing of going up and just asking someone out
Girls approach all the time they don't usually do it like pua retards with numbers, they just show interest, and signs then they use innuendos to ask you out or invite you somewhere some might be more or less direct

Why is it not there job, it's not anyone's job it's not a job,
I actually think you should wait for them to approach because any girl that likes you will probably approach and so the fact that your approaching means she hasn't approached you meaning she probably doesn't like you which leads to the self fulfilling prophecy of rejection, this is why I think letting them approach is the best way
And if you are going to approach than it should be after they gave some iois

yeah, most women just make it easy for you, and that should suffice.

In my experience only giga hoes approach men. Women are naturally passive and submissive, they wait for the man to make the moves.

If a woman does approach men it means she does that often and is not scared, and let's be honest approaching for women has what? A success rate of maybe 98%, so yeah if she approaches she's getting that dick.

 

[Whatever]

Very good points I agree there social lives are very busy

The only other way a htn using looks alone could pull I think is the "just be her type theory"

What are your thoughts on this, because I've experienced where in a few rare instances with a girl I'm a chad to her and have had them throw themselves at me and I received chad treatment they were also good looking girls
I think the difference between this and a true chad is that if your a real chad your every girls type and you receive that treatment from all of them
So I guess there is hope for the Htns if there lucky they might encounter one of these scenarios. And the good news is that with these rare anomalies the looks of the girl can vary and she could be really hot and don't think she'll always just be a subhuman she could be anyone.

I know that all sounds bluepilled but I've experienced the just be her type first hand, and it's not even type it's just you, unless there were clones of you no one else gets that treatment, the bad news is that this is super fuckin rare.
This is also the reason I don't really approach because those rare anomalies are the only ones you could pull as a mtn or htn but the irony is that you'll never need to approach those girls cause they will approach you, which means if your approaching a girl that stands to reason that she hasn't approached you which automatically disqualifies her as being one of those girls so you'll then be faced with the self fulfilling prophecy of rejection.
So that's really all I think we can do as mtns and htns is to wait for one of these rare scenarios.

Have you experienced just be her type what are your thoughts on this

Yes, just be her type is 100% legit, we can measure it objectively here more or less but all that matters is how it's subjectively felt by the girl. There's what I'd call the "vertical" component of being Chad/HTN/etc. and then the "horizontal" component of being her type as far as pheno, style, etc. I've definitely experienced this myself, I've had girls kinda freak out when they see me, felt it instantly when I walked into the room, this happened with my first girl and some others over the years. Yet it's like I can go for weeks or even months without seeing a girl who has any noticeable reaction to me at all. I'm not out in public much these days but still.

This is more about phenos than looks level, if a girl has a similar or good match for your pheno then 100% she can fall in love with you at first sight even if you're not Chad. And it depends on how common the pheno is, and things like facial averageness and having an NT style can also play in. For instance a WASP frat boy look is gonna be a lot of girls' type, and an MTN who looks like that, I don't know if he would get Chad treatment but because the girl already has experience with guys like him and knows what to expect they're gonna feel really comfortable with him. On the other end, and this is me, having a more unique look even if you have good features just isn't gonna be most girls' type but when it is, there's not much competition, so you get the Chad treatment. So definitely, all sub Chads need to be thinking as far as types and niches.

 

[crushing sluts@100%]

yeah, most women just make it easy for you, and that should suffice.

In my experience only giga hoes approach men. Women are naturally passive and submissive, they wait for the man to make the moves.

If a woman does approach men it means she does that often and is not scared, and let's be honest approaching for women has what? A success rate of maybe 98%, so yeah if she approaches she's getting that dick.

I agree there are these promiscuous sluts that always approach, but sometimes ones that are in the rest of the bell curve approach to
The thing is they sometimes each have different ways of doing it sometimes the approach is so subtle in its innuendo that you will basically have to approach. As a metaphor she scratches the ice but you break the ice.
I think this is what approach retards get wrong is when they see this happening to other people it looks like the guy approached, where actually she approached but you couldn't see it cause it was disguised in innuendo, so approach retards and put idiots think we'll I'll just copy him and go up to a random girl and approach, and this usually always leads to rejection, cause what they didn't realise is she sorta approached first.
It's all about capitalising on there iois and approaches.

 

[paladincel_]

if you can't fuck after asking 100 women out, you're turbocel

Pre-redpill take.

 

[crushing sluts@100%]

Yes, just be her type is 100% legit, we can measure it objectively here more or less but all that matters is how it's subjectively felt by the girl. There's what I'd call the "vertical" component of being Chad/HTN/etc. and then the "horizontal" component of being her type as far as pheno, style, etc. I've definitely experienced this myself, I've had girls kinda freak out when they see me, felt it instantly when I walked into the room, this happened with my first girl and some others over the years. Yet it's like I can go for weeks or even months without seeing a girl who has any noticeable reaction to me at all. I'm not out in public much these days but still.

This is more about phenos than looks level, if a girl has a similar or good match for your pheno then 100% she can fall in love with you at first sight even if you're not Chad. And it depends on how common the pheno is, and things like facial averageness and having an NT style can also play in. For instance a WASP frat boy look is gonna be a lot of girls' type, and an MTN who looks like that, I don't know if he would get Chad treatment but because the girl already has experience with guys like him and knows what to expect they're gonna feel really comfortable with him. On the other end, and this is me, having a more unique look even if you have good features just isn't gonna be most girls' type but when it is, there's not much competition, so you get the Chad treatment. So definitely, all sub Chads need to be thinking as far as types and niches.

Absolutely 100 percent

I agree that with just be her type it's a pheno thing rather than a bone thing,
With a true chad it's a bone thing with jbht it's a pheno thing and both are looks related
What's interesting is alot of people think pheno is restricted to race it isn't there's millions of phenos.

I've experienced the same thing when I was a girls type she took one look at me and I shit you not walked up to me like a starving zombie, and I got amazing chad treatment she was about a htb she was a random stranger aswell.

Another interesting strategy we could use that I've been thinking of lately and you kinda mentioned it is this-
I am curious if all the girls that I was her type have a certain look, and if I find girls that look like the girls whom I was there type that maybe itl happen again maybe all girls with that pheno belong to me and I'm their chad
There may only be 50000 spread out in the entire 7 billion of the world though,, it may be about figuring out this look this pheno that seeks out my pheno,, and you know what some of the other girls who liked me kinda had a similar look they varied in attractiveness ranging from ltb to stacylite.

What are your thoughts on this and could it work.

The other thing is I've experienced it on the other perspective where a girl was my type and had a massive crush on her irregardless of her psl.

But yea I might try to find those girls and even if there is studies on this

 

[Whatever]

Absolutely 100 percent

I agree that with just be her type it's a pheno thing rather than a bone thing,
With a true chad it's a bone thing with jbht it's a pheno thing and both are looks related
What's interesting is alot of people think pheno is restricted to race it isn't there's millions of phenos.

I've experienced the same thing when I was a girls type she took one look at me and I shit you not walked up to me like a starving zombie, and I got amazing chad treatment she was about a htb she was a random stranger aswell.

Another interesting strategy we could use that I've been thinking of lately and you kinda mentioned it is this-
I am curious if all the girls that I was her type have a certain look, and if I find girls that look like the girls whom I was there type that maybe itl happen again maybe all girls with that pheno belong to me and I'm their chad
There may only be 50000 spread out in the entire 7 billion of the world though,, it may be about figuring out this look this pheno that seeks out my pheno,, and you know what some of the other girls who liked me kinda had a similar look they varied in attractiveness ranging from ltb to stacylite.

What are your thoughts on this and could it work.

The other thing is I've experienced it on the other perspective where a girl was my type and had a massive crush on her irregardless of her psl.

But yea I might try to find those girls and even if there is studies on this

Yes, there are definitely patterns in girls who are attracted to me, usually vague and even obscure/weird correlations or some kind of balance between my look and the girls'. But for me to find them, I'd have to be around a shitload of girls full time and then some would be my type and I'd be theirs and I'd trust that we'd find each other. That happened very naturally for me in college, but nothing like that is happening right now, the adult working world is extremely isolating. I'm desperate for a system for meeting girls in person on a regular basis.

And ya, people on here will say "all girls are Chad only" and then they post their oneitis and it's some plain looking MTB. Like if they get oneitis for someone who's nothing special to the rest of us then maybe girls do too.

 

[crushing sluts@100%]

Yes, there are definitely patterns in girls who are attracted to me, usually vague and even obscure/weird correlations or some kind of balance between my look and the girls'. But for me to find them, I'd have to be around a shitload of girls full time and then some would be my type and I'd be theirs and I'd trust that we'd find each other. That happened very naturally for me in college, but nothing like that is happening right now, the adult working world is extremely isolating. I'm desperate for a system for meeting girls in person on a regular basis.

And ya, people on here will say "all girls are Chad only" and then they post their oneitis and it's some plain looking MTB. Like if they get oneitis for someone who's nothing special to the rest of us then maybe girls do too.

Yea that's the thing in the adult world it's just not plausible or just really difficult to meet alot of women,

The other thing ive noticed with myself is I have this rare thing and I think other people have this to and that is that I actually contain multiple phenos as weird as that sounds so I can look like different people, and those phenos are not necessarily similar looking, this is both good and bad it's good cause more chance of appeal but also bad because she may like one pheno but find another disgusting. It's hard to explain but depending on the angle your looking at and depending on other things I can look so different all the time, it might be a result of mixed race European in my ethnicity, I can look sorta med but sorta northern European aswell, I can look hillbilly but than also high class it's just so weird and contradicting,, and it makes looksmaxing (i bonesmash aswell) sometimes hard cause I don't have a fixed pheno,, the advantage though with looksmaxing is I can looksmax in lots of directions, I can prettyboy Max I I can surfer dude max I can chico Max and I could even sorta thugmax (but I'd be a lean smaller thug I'm skinnier) and I could probably Max in many directions,, the only Max I probably can't do is gymmax or roidmax cause as im thin,, obviously I can't bbc Max I'm white, but I could easily grow dreads and have a similar effect especially since there are not alot of blacks in my country.

Do you have any niche maxxing plans with your pheno

 

[ferbite666]

It's much harder to enter someone's social circle than open random girls.

Exactly. This is what none of the social circle copers want to acknowledge. Getting into circles with hot single college girls is already difficult to do as a college student.

But as a complete outsider who’s not even enrolled in college it’s damn near impossible unless you get lucky and work at some place surrounded by hot JBs.

Also don’t get me started with hobbymaxxing. Hot college girls don’t have real hobbies.

Cold approaching is only option for most of us.

@Whatever