zygos cheekbones are too wide. What is the cause???

[nobodyspecial369]

i look like this guy and also like jordan barrett recently in terms of bloat and face looking too wide.

Just why the fuck do I look so bad ?

It’s your face mate it’s way too short you say it’s 19cm, but if we take into consideration the fact your norwooding your skull is most likely 17cm with the ideal hairline for you specifically. You don’t need a taller a chin you need a longer mid face pal. Hope this helps. Oh Norwooding is bad...

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too wide zygos and not tall enough skull. my cheekbones are way too wide it looks uncanny

i’m wondering what the cause of this though. i’ve been told i’ve been clenching and had lots of tension in my face throughout my life. And i started chewing a lot of hard stuff the last few years but it just made me more bloated and wide zygos since i’m recessed. i feel like the more tension the more the muscles are overworked and muscles win over bones over time according to Dr Mew

I don’t know which muscles are contributing to this though. is it the pterygoids?
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or is it the temporalis
View attachment 2065385

or the massetters??


I wish someone who is aware of facial anatomy could help theorize the cause of this

for any one who has similar issue i wanted to ask you some questions bc i feel like there has to be a reason why this happened

Please answer these questions

1 do you or has someone told you that you clench at night when you sleep

2 Have you chewed a lot/ chewed for hours/ had a lot of pressure exerted on chewing muscles

3 do your teeth touch

4 when did you notice zygos started getting wide was it always like that

5 do you generally carry a lot of tension or stress in your jaw cheek or temporal muscles



I am going to start doing compression exercises daily on my zygos to make them slimmer. i thought it was bloat from fat that was the problem or water retention but for us i think the problem is just too much bone mass in zygos.

The other surgical procedures would be cheekbone shaving/reduction or buccal fat removal. are there downsides to any of these?

 

[bignosesmallchin]

Start mouth breathing.

 

[zap]

The problem with these wide faces is you need to basically be 10% bodyfat or less or you'll look like shit.
If it's short face syndrome (maxillomandibular deficiency) it can be fixed with CW rotation of the maxilla I think.
DON'T start mouth breathing. If you want a longer face, make your lower third longer

 

[Deleted member 21736]

my zygos are wide but they lack definition. weird shit.

 

[nobodyspecial369]

The problem with these wide faces is you need to basically be 10% bodyfat or less or you'll look like shit.
If it's short face syndrome (maxillomandibular deficiency) it can be fixed with CW rotation of the maxilla I think

i’m wondering what the cause of this though. i’ve been told i’ve been clenching and had lots of tension in my face throughout my life. i feel like the more tension the more the muscles are overworked and muscles win over bones over time according to Dr Mew. i feel like this must be the cause of such wide zygos

I don’t know which muscles are contributing to this though. is it the pterygoids?

or is it the temporalis

or the massetters??


I wish someone who is aware of facial anatomy could help theorize the cause of this

 

[zap]

i’m wondering what the cause of this though. i’ve been told i’ve been clenching and had lots of tension in my face throughout my life. i feel like the more tension the more the muscles are overworked and muscles win over bones over time according to Dr Mew

I don’t know which muscles are contributing to this though. is it the pterygoids?
View attachment 2065384

or is it the temporalis
View attachment 2065385

or the massetters??


I wish someone who is aware of facial anatomy could help theorize the cause of this

All of the above. Just look up masseter size vs morphology studies on Google. Mastication muscles will make your anterior face height shorter. It's not necessarily a bad thing. Wider faces are shown to be more attractive. You just need the chin and forward growth to back it up

 

[wholesome]

ur pfp is hilarious

Start mouth breathing.ur

 

[Vain786]

dont keep hair on ur forehead it makes ur face look even more boxy and weird

 

[nobodyspecial369]

All of the above. Just look up masseter size vs morphology studies on Google. Mastication muscles will make your anterior face height shorter. It's not necessarily a bad thing. Wider faces are shown to be more attractive. You just need the chin and forward growth to back it up

Actually it’s better to have a slimmer face i realized. Ya you don’t wanna have a super narrow jaw, some width is good but check this out

PSL debunked - This is the face white women consider ideal and by far the most attractive IRL - Keep coping with your compact midface, wide face

That’s why the Arvid is ideal, looks the same but with wider chin and jaw damn u mog the fuck outta him

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i don’t have the chin or forward growth to back it up lol but looks like bimax + genio can fix, lifefuel

 

[Deleted member 21044]

No such thing as too wide zygos only too narrow jaw which makes the bigonial : bizygomatic ratio look bad.

 

[nobodyspecial369]

No such thing as too wide zygos only too narrow jaw which makes the bigonial : bizygomatic ratio look bad.

have you seen jordan barrett in the last few years? he doesn’t have narrow jaw, but his cheekbones look too wide

 

[Deleted member 21044]

have you seen jordan barrett in the last few years? he doesn’t have narrow jaw, but his cheekbones look too wide

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Old pic.

 

[FrenchChad]

It's mostly genetic it don't have much to do with your facial muscles, some skull shapes usually have wider zygos than others (brachycephalic) and some ethnicites also have naturally wide zygos (south-east asians).

 

[FrenchChad]

No such thing as too wide zygos only too narrow jaw which makes the bigonial : bizygomatic ratio look bad.

There is such thing as too wide zygos, a fwhr above 2.0 looks comical 90% of the time and unless you have a dolphin ipd you are more likely to have a shit ES-Ratio if you have very wide zygos.

 

[Deleted member 21044]

There is such thing as too wide zygos, a fwhr above 2.0 looks comical 90% of the time and unless you have a dolphin ipd you are more likely to have a shit ES-Ratio if you have very wide zygos.

There's such a thing as too low ES but not too high zygomatic width by itself.

 

[FrenchChad]

There's such a thing as too low ES but not too high zygomatic width by itself.

And a too high bizygomatic width is one of the causes of a low es ratio, even with a way above average ipd a high bizygomatic width can (and most often will) result into an unideal es ratio.
A too high bizygomatic width is a failo by itself, @Birdcell despite having a 68mm ipd which is insane have a low esr because of his wide zygos.

 

[FrenchChad]

And yes there is such a thing as a too high fwhr and wide zygos contribute to that.

 

[nobodyspecial369]

There is such thing as too wide zygos, a fwhr above 2.0 looks comical 90% of the time and unless you have a dolphin ipd you are more likely to have a shit ES-Ratio if you have very wide zygos.

what is ES ration mean?

 

[FrenchChad]

what is ES ration mean?

Eye spacing ratio
Ipd divided by bizygomatic width.

 

[pcmaxing]

Actually it’s better to have a slimmer face i realized. Ya you don’t wanna have a super narrow jaw, some width is good but check this out

PSL debunked - This is the face white women consider ideal and by far the most attractive IRL - Keep coping with your compact midface, wide face

That’s why the Arvid is ideal, looks the same but with wider chin and jaw damn u mog the fuck outta him

looksmax.org

i don’t have the chin or forward growth to back it up lol but looks like bimax + genio can fix, lifefuelView attachment 2065396View attachment 2065397

His face is longer. Had some thing done to his jaw , why he looks better. Has nothing to do with cheekbones

 

[malicieusss]

No such thing as too wide zygos only too narrow jaw which makes the bigonial : bizygomatic ratio look bad.

for once I do agree with you

 

[nobodyspecial369]

Eye spacing ratio
Ipd divided by bizygomatic width.

so high ES ratio would look more like avatar face right? i think this looks good

 

[FrenchChad]

so high ES ratio would look more like avatar face right? i think this looks good

Too high es ratio = dolphin = over
Too low es ratio = cyclop = giga over
Eye spacing is one of the most crucial thing to overall facial harmony, in order to pull off a high es ratio you need a high pfl otherwise it'll most likely look bad, even if a slightly too high es ratio is still better than a slightly too low one.

 

[irrumator praetor]

i look like this guy and also like jordan barrett recently in terms of bloat and face looking too wide.

Just why the fuck do I look so bad ?

It’s your face mate it’s way too short you say it’s 19cm, but if we take into consideration the fact your norwooding your skull is most likely 17cm with the ideal hairline for you specifically. You don’t need a taller a chin you need a longer mid face pal. Hope this helps. Oh Norwooding is bad...

looksmax.org

View attachment 2065373

too wide zygos and not tall enough skull. my cheekbones are way too wide it looks uncanny

i’m wondering what the cause of this though. i’ve been told i’ve been clenching and had lots of tension in my face throughout my life. And i started chewing a lot of hard stuff the last few years but it just made me more bloated and wide zygos since i’m recessed. i feel like the more tension the more the muscles are overworked and muscles win over bones over time according to Dr Mew

I don’t know which muscles are contributing to this though. is it the pterygoids?
View attachment 2065384

or is it the temporalis
View attachment 2065385

or the massetters??


I wish someone who is aware of facial anatomy could help theorize the cause of this

for any one who has similar issue i wanted to ask you some questions bc i feel like there has to be a reason why this happened

Please answer these questions

1 do you or has someone told you that you clench at night when you sleep

2 Have you chewed a lot/ chewed for hours/ had a lot of pressure exerted on chewing muscles

3 do your teeth touch

4 when did you notice zygos started getting wide was it always like that

5 do you generally carry a lot of tension or stress in your jaw cheek or temporal muscles



I am going to start doing compression exercises daily on my zygos to make them slimmer. i thought it was bloat from fat that was the problem or water retention but for us i think the problem is just too much bone mass in zygos.

The other surgical procedures would be cheekbone shaving/reduction or buccal fat removal. are there downsides to any of these?

Jordan looks bloated like the russian stocks nigger meme probably because of surgery lol its a literal unnatural look that can either be caused by a fight, car crash or surgery. Water cannot cause that bloating.

 

[ripcordgod1]

i look like this guy and also like jordan barrett recently in terms of bloat and face looking too wide.

Just why the fuck do I look so bad ?

It’s your face mate it’s way too short you say it’s 19cm, but if we take into consideration the fact your norwooding your skull is most likely 17cm with the ideal hairline for you specifically. You don’t need a taller a chin you need a longer mid face pal. Hope this helps. Oh Norwooding is bad...

looksmax.org

View attachment 2065373

too wide zygos and not tall enough skull. my cheekbones are way too wide it looks uncanny

i’m wondering what the cause of this though. i’ve been told i’ve been clenching and had lots of tension in my face throughout my life. And i started chewing a lot of hard stuff the last few years but it just made me more bloated and wide zygos since i’m recessed. i feel like the more tension the more the muscles are overworked and muscles win over bones over time according to Dr Mew

I don’t know which muscles are contributing to this though. is it the pterygoids?
View attachment 2065384

or is it the temporalis
View attachment 2065385

or the massetters??


I wish someone who is aware of facial anatomy could help theorize the cause of this

for any one who has similar issue i wanted to ask you some questions bc i feel like there has to be a reason why this happened

Please answer these questions

1 do you or has someone told you that you clench at night when you sleep

2 Have you chewed a lot/ chewed for hours/ had a lot of pressure exerted on chewing muscles

3 do your teeth touch

4 when did you notice zygos started getting wide was it always like that

5 do you generally carry a lot of tension or stress in your jaw cheek or temporal muscles



I am going to start doing compression exercises daily on my zygos to make them slimmer. i thought it was bloat from fat that was the problem or water retention but for us i think the problem is just too much bone mass in zygos.

The other surgical procedures would be cheekbone shaving/reduction or buccal fat removal. are there downsides to any of these?

chew if u have wide ipd

 

[Deleted member 15854]

i look like this guy and also like jordan barrett recently in terms of bloat and face looking too wide.

Just why the fuck do I look so bad ?

It’s your face mate it’s way too short you say it’s 19cm, but if we take into consideration the fact your norwooding your skull is most likely 17cm with the ideal hairline for you specifically. You don’t need a taller a chin you need a longer mid face pal. Hope this helps. Oh Norwooding is bad...

looksmax.org

View attachment 2065373

too wide zygos and not tall enough skull. my cheekbones are way too wide it looks uncanny

i’m wondering what the cause of this though. i’ve been told i’ve been clenching and had lots of tension in my face throughout my life. And i started chewing a lot of hard stuff the last few years but it just made me more bloated and wide zygos since i’m recessed. i feel like the more tension the more the muscles are overworked and muscles win over bones over time according to Dr Mew

I don’t know which muscles are contributing to this though. is it the pterygoids?
View attachment 2065384

or is it the temporalis
View attachment 2065385

or the massetters??


I wish someone who is aware of facial anatomy could help theorize the cause of this

for any one who has similar issue i wanted to ask you some questions bc i feel like there has to be a reason why this happened

Please answer these questions

1 do you or has someone told you that you clench at night when you sleep

2 Have you chewed a lot/ chewed for hours/ had a lot of pressure exerted on chewing muscles

3 do your teeth touch

4 when did you notice zygos started getting wide was it always like that

5 do you generally carry a lot of tension or stress in your jaw cheek or temporal muscles



I am going to start doing compression exercises daily on my zygos to make them slimmer. i thought it was bloat from fat that was the problem or water retention but for us i think the problem is just too much bone mass in zygos.

The other surgical procedures would be cheekbone shaving/reduction or buccal fat removal. are there downsides to any of these?

is that photoshop or barret actually looked like that when bloated?

 

[looksmidder]

i look like this guy and also like jordan barrett recently in terms of bloat and face looking too wide.

Just why the fuck do I look so bad ?

It’s your face mate it’s way too short you say it’s 19cm, but if we take into consideration the fact your norwooding your skull is most likely 17cm with the ideal hairline for you specifically. You don’t need a taller a chin you need a longer mid face pal. Hope this helps. Oh Norwooding is bad...

looksmax.org

View attachment 2065373

too wide zygos and not tall enough skull. my cheekbones are way too wide it looks uncanny

i’m wondering what the cause of this though. i’ve been told i’ve been clenching and had lots of tension in my face throughout my life. And i started chewing a lot of hard stuff the last few years but it just made me more bloated and wide zygos since i’m recessed. i feel like the more tension the more the muscles are overworked and muscles win over bones over time according to Dr Mew

I don’t know which muscles are contributing to this though. is it the pterygoids?
View attachment 2065384

or is it the temporalis
View attachment 2065385

or the massetters??


I wish someone who is aware of facial anatomy could help theorize the cause of this

for any one who has similar issue i wanted to ask you some questions bc i feel like there has to be a reason why this happened

Please answer these questions

1 do you or has someone told you that you clench at night when you sleep

2 Have you chewed a lot/ chewed for hours/ had a lot of pressure exerted on chewing muscles

3 do your teeth touch

4 when did you notice zygos started getting wide was it always like that

5 do you generally carry a lot of tension or stress in your jaw cheek or temporal muscles



I am going to start doing compression exercises daily on my zygos to make them slimmer. i thought it was bloat from fat that was the problem or water retention but for us i think the problem is just too much bone mass in zygos.

The other surgical procedures would be cheekbone shaving/reduction or buccal fat removal. are there downsides to any of these?

what compression excercises are you going to do

 

[looksmidder]

chew if u have wide ipd

how would chewing improve ipd?

 

[Deleted member 31155]

The problem with these wide faces is you need to basically be 10% bodyfat or less or you'll look like shit.
If it's short face syndrome (maxillomandibular deficiency) it can be fixed with CW rotation of the maxilla I think.
DON'T start mouth breathing. If you want a longer face, make your lower third longer

will mouthbreathing still affect your face after 18?

 

[zap]

will mouthbreathing still affect your face after 18?

Yeah you'll look worse. It'll take a long time though. Same way mewing takes a long time to improve it

 

[Deleted member 31155]

Yeah you'll look worse. It'll take a long time though. Same way mewing takes a long time to improve it

ill need an estimation

 

[zap]

ill need an estimation

1-3 years