Jaw surgery needed? If not, what would ascend?

[Moldovancel]

Already consulted with 3 surgeons here in France :
- One doesn't want to do surgery, says teeth aligners will be enough to fix my bite
- Other two say my case is borderline (maxilla slightly recessed) and that I could either get aligners or Lefort 1 advancement (with maybe some expansion) but it would basically have no effect on my face as it would be a 2/3 mm advancement. None of them talked about a bimax

So I'm not sure right now what surgeries would ascend me. If LF1 wouldn't help then maybe looking into implants (jaw angle, infraorbital?) and pinning my ears back would be a better investment? Feel like my face is a bit long and I could use some more width (fwhr is 1.75-1.77). (No, I'm not getting OBO)


Thought about booking a consultation with one of the blackpilled surgeons too just to see what they would say ?

What do you think? I've never done any hardmaxxing.

 

[latetothegame]

Occlusial plane is essentially perfect, as you have seen with your consultations no surgeon will really think its worth it for you to undergo a procedure to get a 5% improvement, if that.

I think you are on the right track with ears, jaw angle, and maybe infra, in that order.

photoshop morph (just ears)

 

[Moldovancel]

Occlusial plane is essentially perfect, as you have seen with your consultations no surgeon will really think its worth it for you to undergo a procedure to get a 5% improvement, if that.

I think you are on the right track with ears, jaw angle, and maybe infra, in that order.

photoshop morph (just ears)

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Appreciate the morph man, thank you! It does look better indeed (I think? I'm just so used to seeing my face with my ears sticking out)

Right, I'm gonna focus on getting my teeth aligned and probably ears for now (just booked a consultation with my surgeon), then I'll look into implants.

Thanks for the feedback.

 

[panfacemogger]

U could just get paranasal implants to mimic a slight lf1 if you don't want to get bimax, could get them with infras at the same time

 

[Moldovancel]

U could just get paranasal implants to mimic a slight lf1 if you don't want to get bimax, could get them with infras at the same time

You think a surgeon would be willing to do a bimax on me?
I'll look into the paranasal implants option, thanks.

 

[mvp2v1]

Occlusial plane is essentially perfect, as you have seen with your consultations no surgeon will really think its worth it for you to undergo a procedure to get a 5% improvement, if that.

I think you are on the right track with ears, jaw angle, and maybe infra, in that order.

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he needs obo + tripod + lefort 3+bsso + jaw angle implants, genio, sub orbital implants

 

[Delissola]

he needs obo + tripod + lefort 3+bsso + jaw angle implants, genio, sub orbital implants

I think his recovery in that situation will last forever.He would be ascended in 80 years old finally

 

[mvp2v1]

I think his recovery in that situation will last forever.He would be ascended in 80 years old finally

I hope your wrong.

 

[Delissola]

I hope your wrong.

Ahahahhah
If you remove lefort 3 this plan will be good.Lefort 3 is too invasive and not well-known to be cosmetic surgery .Even the obo is not so damgerous

 

[Moldovancel]

U could just get paranasal implants to mimic a slight lf1 if you don't want to get bimax, could get them with infras at the same time

At the surgeon’s office right now to talk about a possible bimax. He said that’s what would ascend, LF1 alone wouldn’t do shit.

 

[Moldovancel]

Ahahahhah
If you remove lefort 3 this plan will be good.Lefort 3 is too invasive and not well-known to be cosmetic surgery .Even the obo is not so damgerous

Yeah not getting OBO or lf3, too scary. Everything else maybe, starting with bimax and implants. Don’t think I need genio though

 

[mirrormogger]

can you pm deleted pic? getting bimax in italy potentially gonna add some implants on top for myself

 

[Moldovancel]

can you pm deleted pic? getting bimax in italy potentially gonna add some implants on top for myself

They’re still up on my other thread :

Still not sure if I should risk jaw surgery

Posted on reddit and people were saying it wasn’t worth it and to just get the ortho for my class 3 bite. But then others I DMed my soft tissue pics to said I lacked forward projection and I would benefit from an advancement with maybe CCW rotation to shorten my face (even though I think it...

looksmax.org

 

[Delissola]

Yeah not getting OBO or lf3, too scary. Everything else maybe, starting with bimax and implants. Don’t think I need genio though

modified obo is not so scary any more. Giant actually performed second obo posted on his instagram. I think after five more years the modified obo will become quite affordable and safe

 

[Moldovancel]

modified obo is not so scary any more. Giant actually performed second obo posted on his instagram. I think after five more years the modified obo will become quite affordable and safe

Yeah I saw that. Maybe in a few years then, but for now I’m focusing on the more well-known surgeries.

 

[Delissola]

That's right, it's a more reliable way.

I actually need at mouth widening surgery bc small one is absolute fail and looks ultra feminine.I wonder if Giant is conducting a similar operation @RealSurgerymax

Yeah I saw that. Maybe in a few years then, but for now I’m focusing on the more well-known surgeries.