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Everyone answer so there isn’t survey self-selection bias (private answers)
I’m curious what portion of this place is made up of minds far from that of the average person.
We can all probably guess that this forum attracts people who tend to obsess over things, are self-focused (a good thing), maybe who look to explain poor social/dating results, etc., even if people with similar looks to them are consistently doing better in these areas.
1- Low NT
You are completely outside the realm of normal social interactions. People can probably tell something is off within 3 seconds of meeting you based on your voice/cadence, mannerisms, physiognomy, etc.
Maybe you are diagnosed extreme autism, schizo, OCD, etc. Or, maybe something caused a compounding effect over time that resulted in you missing out on huge social development milestones needed to be NT (real abuse, deformity tier looks, whatever).
You didn’t go to any high school dances and have almost certainly never been on a date.
All doctors have wanted to do to you since young is pump you with different meds.
You are extremely low NT, can’t relate to people and make acquaintances, and don’t get social norms at all.
You try and find value by joining fringe shit online mostly like communist or anarchist groups.
2. Low-Medium NT (probably majority group here)
You had some friends growing up, but they were not the cool kids and were probably in a looked down upon social status in school. Unlike score 1 above, which even the losers in school aren’t friends with, score 2 has a few friends but has weird interests and fails to find common ground with the majority.
Sports, bars, raves, and clubs do not makes sense to you. “Why do people care about people thousands of miles away wearing jerseys throwing balls and stuff?” “How do people enjoy jumping up and down together to music, I just don’t get it and that idea makes me anxious” “going to a place to buy overpriced drinks and hear loud music makes no sense, I can’t believe people do that”
In fact, dancing and some of the above things or equivalent activities actually make you cringe inside and give you a nice cortisol injection
(Then again all of the above may be correlated to intelligence more than anything since only low IQ normies can enjoy most of that retarded shit… a high IQ can put you on the left side of the NT curve for sure)
If you are the high IQ pheno of this category, then you self taught programming or read a bunch of history, economics etc on your own.
If you are the low IQ variant, it was video games, movies, whatever. ALSO, you may have been annoying to other kids for attention when younger (since you couldn’t get it otherwise, this is really ONLY for those cursed with extroversion + lower NT).
You are the one that initiates hangouts almost always. When you make a friend not at your same NT level, you had to introduce yourself rather than the other way around.
Low success with girls. You have always been behind the developmental curve for opposite sex relations since back in high school or middle school. You constantly fixate on your appearance when around them. “How to talk to girls” and “how to get girls to like you” and similar searches have all been deleted from your history at some time or another.
Thankfully, you don’t need too much social interaction since you have learned to enjoy video games, reading, or something else (probably as a cope). Maybe you cope by being at the gym more than needed since it can be seen as an excuse to not be out on the weekend and stuff.
You came here first for looks info, but you stay because you relate to people here on a level you usually can’t in real life.
Views you hold that are really far outside the majority are held because you did deep digging in the topics; you are ahead of the curve and knew facts about women way before Tate went viral, etc. you don’t join fringe stuff for attention.
FOCUS ON LOOKS: This group gets engrossed in the black pill the most and probably permasquints, makes sure to mew when walking by girls, etc. You attribute lack of success with girls to not being better looking; while this isn’t necessarily wrong, theres people at your same looks level who do better socially and in dating sicne they have better neurotypicality to align with what is needed for this.
3. Average Range
You naturally made some friends in school, and they weren’t losers or popular, just middle of the road. You are able to meet new people pretty comfortably in social situations, and you don’t worry about how you could have phrased something better days after a conversation happened.
You use social media since everyone else does, and you are a fan of at least one sport. You do and derive dopamine from normal (low IQ lol) activities like watching other men run around on TV, bars, festivals, etc.
Talking to girls is nothing serious, and you have some “female friends” (lol at this concept) and have probably dated before. Girls are not unanimously repulsed by you. You do often rely on substances to talk to them, though.
You like mainstream music.
Focus on looks: You focus on softmaxxes and hard maxxes seem overboard right now
At least before this forum, you didn’t focus much on looks and assumed you were “a bit above average” probably. If you are smart, you know that rejection from girls IS due to your looks since you are already NT enough and cool enough for most purposes. Whereas the above group is sort of mentalcels that think looks is their only issue, looks are what is holding you back, if you aren’t GL this is.
4. Ideal (max)
Making friends was always easy, and people would often initiate conversations with you. You don’t overthink shit (pretty low inhib). People always wanna invite you to their social stuff.
Dating came naturally, and you never had to look up videos on “how to be alpha” or “how to talk to girls”. The venues that the normies (score 3) enjoy are things you enjoy even MORE since you thrive in those scenarios; raves naturally end with you banging a girl that night, for example.
You don’t have to be perfect looking, but people in this group are usually either good looking or have a “brand” like the jock, the dark triad (“muh Ramirez lol”), the funny kid; you aren’t just overly average in looks and definitely not personality.
There’s almost no way you didn’t play a sport growing up. People laughed and laugh at your jokes. You get called “funny” (which can either mean good looking or just NT) sometimes or a lot.
After a school presentation, people clapped for you more than they did for normal people.
Focus on looks: You weren’t desperate to improve looks since your life already mogs most people, but you were intelligent enough to seek improvement still and somehow found this forum
I’m curious what portion of this place is made up of minds far from that of the average person.
We can all probably guess that this forum attracts people who tend to obsess over things, are self-focused (a good thing), maybe who look to explain poor social/dating results, etc., even if people with similar looks to them are consistently doing better in these areas.
1- Low NT
You are completely outside the realm of normal social interactions. People can probably tell something is off within 3 seconds of meeting you based on your voice/cadence, mannerisms, physiognomy, etc.
Maybe you are diagnosed extreme autism, schizo, OCD, etc. Or, maybe something caused a compounding effect over time that resulted in you missing out on huge social development milestones needed to be NT (real abuse, deformity tier looks, whatever).
You didn’t go to any high school dances and have almost certainly never been on a date.
All doctors have wanted to do to you since young is pump you with different meds.
You are extremely low NT, can’t relate to people and make acquaintances, and don’t get social norms at all.
You try and find value by joining fringe shit online mostly like communist or anarchist groups.
2. Low-Medium NT (probably majority group here)
You had some friends growing up, but they were not the cool kids and were probably in a looked down upon social status in school. Unlike score 1 above, which even the losers in school aren’t friends with, score 2 has a few friends but has weird interests and fails to find common ground with the majority.
Sports, bars, raves, and clubs do not makes sense to you. “Why do people care about people thousands of miles away wearing jerseys throwing balls and stuff?” “How do people enjoy jumping up and down together to music, I just don’t get it and that idea makes me anxious” “going to a place to buy overpriced drinks and hear loud music makes no sense, I can’t believe people do that”
In fact, dancing and some of the above things or equivalent activities actually make you cringe inside and give you a nice cortisol injection
(Then again all of the above may be correlated to intelligence more than anything since only low IQ normies can enjoy most of that retarded shit… a high IQ can put you on the left side of the NT curve for sure)
If you are the high IQ pheno of this category, then you self taught programming or read a bunch of history, economics etc on your own.
If you are the low IQ variant, it was video games, movies, whatever. ALSO, you may have been annoying to other kids for attention when younger (since you couldn’t get it otherwise, this is really ONLY for those cursed with extroversion + lower NT).
You are the one that initiates hangouts almost always. When you make a friend not at your same NT level, you had to introduce yourself rather than the other way around.
Low success with girls. You have always been behind the developmental curve for opposite sex relations since back in high school or middle school. You constantly fixate on your appearance when around them. “How to talk to girls” and “how to get girls to like you” and similar searches have all been deleted from your history at some time or another.
Thankfully, you don’t need too much social interaction since you have learned to enjoy video games, reading, or something else (probably as a cope). Maybe you cope by being at the gym more than needed since it can be seen as an excuse to not be out on the weekend and stuff.
You came here first for looks info, but you stay because you relate to people here on a level you usually can’t in real life.
Views you hold that are really far outside the majority are held because you did deep digging in the topics; you are ahead of the curve and knew facts about women way before Tate went viral, etc. you don’t join fringe stuff for attention.
FOCUS ON LOOKS: This group gets engrossed in the black pill the most and probably permasquints, makes sure to mew when walking by girls, etc. You attribute lack of success with girls to not being better looking; while this isn’t necessarily wrong, theres people at your same looks level who do better socially and in dating sicne they have better neurotypicality to align with what is needed for this.
3. Average Range
You naturally made some friends in school, and they weren’t losers or popular, just middle of the road. You are able to meet new people pretty comfortably in social situations, and you don’t worry about how you could have phrased something better days after a conversation happened.
You use social media since everyone else does, and you are a fan of at least one sport. You do and derive dopamine from normal (low IQ lol) activities like watching other men run around on TV, bars, festivals, etc.
Talking to girls is nothing serious, and you have some “female friends” (lol at this concept) and have probably dated before. Girls are not unanimously repulsed by you. You do often rely on substances to talk to them, though.
You like mainstream music.
Focus on looks: You focus on softmaxxes and hard maxxes seem overboard right now
At least before this forum, you didn’t focus much on looks and assumed you were “a bit above average” probably. If you are smart, you know that rejection from girls IS due to your looks since you are already NT enough and cool enough for most purposes. Whereas the above group is sort of mentalcels that think looks is their only issue, looks are what is holding you back, if you aren’t GL this is.
4. Ideal (max)
Making friends was always easy, and people would often initiate conversations with you. You don’t overthink shit (pretty low inhib). People always wanna invite you to their social stuff.
Dating came naturally, and you never had to look up videos on “how to be alpha” or “how to talk to girls”. The venues that the normies (score 3) enjoy are things you enjoy even MORE since you thrive in those scenarios; raves naturally end with you banging a girl that night, for example.
You don’t have to be perfect looking, but people in this group are usually either good looking or have a “brand” like the jock, the dark triad (“muh Ramirez lol”), the funny kid; you aren’t just overly average in looks and definitely not personality.
There’s almost no way you didn’t play a sport growing up. People laughed and laugh at your jokes. You get called “funny” (which can either mean good looking or just NT) sometimes or a lot.
After a school presentation, people clapped for you more than they did for normal people.
Focus on looks: You weren’t desperate to improve looks since your life already mogs most people, but you were intelligent enough to seek improvement still and somehow found this forum
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