Discussion Is there any place for true love?

[Deleted member 23558]

Ik the first honeymoon phase is dictated almost entirely by looks... but after a period of being together will there be a time when even if she sees a 6'5 maher type jock interested in her shell stay faithful? Is such a thing possible in our day and age? Will this change if you have children together, and you guys are really pair bonded?

 

[Deleted member 21182]

Ik the first honeymoon phase is dictated almost entirely by looks... but after a period of being together will there be a time when even if she sees a 6'5 maher type jock interested in her shell stay faithful? Is such a thing possible in our day and age? Will this change if you have children together, and you guys are really pair bonded?

Sadly no, I wish it was different but neither women nor men will remain faithful if given the chance otherwise, women date up so if she finds a richer taller sexier smarter dude then you and for a man if you had a young sexier foid on you it’d also be taken, difference is men don’t get nearly as many opportunities as women do

 

[Deleted member 21182]

Although when she gets too old she’ll probably lose interest all together like in her late 50s she will likely not cheat

 

[Eduardo DOV]

yes, there is. but depends on the it depends on her personality.
anyway, anything can happen.

 

[Hero of the Imperium]

yes

 

[Deleted member 21735]

maybe in heaven

 

[Deleted member 23558]

I dont think ill cheat on my onetitis even if i had access to angelina jolie tho its just not how im made i get really attached to someone (although i rarely do get attached to people) and id rather be w them

Sadly no, I wish it was different but neither women nor men will remain faithful if given the chance otherwise, women date up so if she finds a richer taller sexier smarter dude then you and for a man if you had a young sexier foid on you it’d also be taken, difference is men don’t get nearly as many opportunities as women do

 

[Eduardo DOV]

Sadly no, I wish it was different but neither women nor men will remain faithful if given the chance otherwise, women date up so if she finds a richer taller sexier smarter dude then you and for a man if you had a young sexier foid on you it’d also be taken, difference is men don’t get nearly as many opportunities as women do

this is bullshit, based on what you say that? answer: in what you think that would happen. kk. there are people of character, it doesn't matter if you saw a thousand examples of people with bad character.

 

[Deleted member 23819]

There’s no need to worry bro there’s no 6’5 Maher type jocks in India

 

[Deleted member 21182]

this is bullshit, based on what you say that? answer: in what you think that would happen. kk. there are people of character, it doesn't matter if you saw a thousand examples of people with bad character.

Bluepilled cope, even a girl of charecter will honestly think she won’t cheat but u gotta realize we as humans forget we’re animals, we work on instinct and a girl will always be hypergamous it’s not her fault, I’m telling you no matter how much she loves you she might even be hard to get but if a guy better than you tries hard enough he will succeed even if she regrets it afterwards

I dont think ill cheat on my onetitis even if i had access to angelina jolie tho its just not how im made i get really attached to someone (although i rarely do get attached to people) and id rather be w them

same answe for you, as a man you aren’t often put in a situation where you have 50 girls spamming u in instagram like foids do but you’d probably cheat if not even replace ur girl if you found a younger more attractave girl, it’s nature I bet if ur put in that situation youll do it. It’s the same as people here saying they wouldn’t fall for a foid no matter how Mgtow u think u are u will never be able to ignore nature we are animals

 

[Eduardo DOV]

Bluepilled cope, even a girl of charecter will honestly think she won’t cheat but u gotta realize we as humans forget we’re animals, we work on instinct and a girl will always be hypergamous it’s not her fault, I’m telling you no matter how much she loves you she might even be hard to get but if a guy better than you tries hard enough he will succeed even if she regrets it afterwards

same answe for you, as a man you aren’t often put in a situation where you have 50 girls spamming u in instagram like foids do but you’d probably cheat if not even replace ur girl if you found a younger more attractave girl, it’s nature I bet if ur put in that situation youll do it. It’s the same as people here saying they wouldn’t fall for a foid no matter how Mgtow u think u are u will never be able to ignore nature we are animals

ok nigger but in reality this tryhard chad will never appear. these reasonings are pure cope to do nothing in life and still think you're the wise man.

 

[Eduardo DOV]

same answe for you, as a man you aren’t often put in a situation where you have 50 girls spamming u in instagram like foids do but you’d probably cheat if not even replace ur girl if you found a younger more attractave girl, it’s nature I bet if ur put in that situation youll do it. It’s the same as people here saying they wouldn’t fall for a foid no matter how Mgtow u think u are u will never be able to ignore nature we are animals

i would not do that.
this only makes sense in the head of a desperate guy who never got a chance to fuck young girls in the past. Or men who don't value loyalty. I mean, if it's done deliberately. Of course, if a gl hot girl appeared naked in front of me shaking her ass, it would be hard to resist.

 

[Eduardo DOV]

It's like you said, PROBABLY. indeed, statistically it probably is what would happen in most cases. But that doesn't mean it's a rule.

 

[Deleted member 21182]

ok nigger but in reality this tryhard chad will never appear. these reasonings are pure cope to do nothing in life and still think you're the wise man.

It doesn’t have to be a gigachad, let’s say ur htn make 6k a month some other htn meets ur girl on insta starts being nice to her she’s saying she has a bf he’s saying ok no problem wanna go out as friends, sometimes she migh also get bored of you women do that a lot as well if ur too nice, unfortunately females don’t like nice guys they like the risk the adventure that’s why u see so many loving couples where the girl cheats and really didn’t want to because at the end of the day she has a concouusness it’s not her fault but human nature is stronger. We are hardwired to reproduce and a woman will always be looking for a better man even subconsciousl,she might not even know herself but no matter how much she loves u her mind will always be analyzing other options

the only time u can be sure she won’t ever cheat is when u both are very old since her youth and reproductive stage will have gone and she will have no reason to anymore

its a sad and depressing reality we live in but there’s no changing once u realize humans aren’t as free in will and action as we thought u see this natural shit and honestly it doesn’t take much for a girl to cheat even lov a guy I’m telling u not even chad is safe youll be sleeping with her and speaking about ove one day and the next she says she’s leaving and going off with another guy life is brutal and as men wed do the same if given the option that’s why I dont hate women Ik men are just as bad and Ik she is following her script her rational side probably wouldn’t wanna do this so it’s not her fault

 

[Deleted member 21182]

It's like you said, PROBABLY. indeed, statistically it probably is what would happen in most cases. But that doesn't mean it's a rule.

I beleve in acceptions but a human who doesn’t obide by reproduction laws is as rare as a needle in a haystack and you wooul tell them apart until it happens to u, it’s nature I’ve seen it happen too much even to chad, a woman will get bored of chad even since she fell in love with her first impres of him the badboy not the nice family man with Children and a morgage it’s brutal

 

[Eduardo DOV]

I beleve in acceptions but a human who doesn’t obide by reproduction laws is as rare as a needle in a haystack and you wooul tell them apart until it happens to u, it’s nature I’ve seen it happen too much even to chad, a woman will get bored of chad even since she fell in love with her first impres of him the badboy not the nice family man with Children and a morgage it’s brutal

everyone knows that this happens, it is common knowledge in society: Both men and women over time lose that initial attraction of the relationship.
The thing is to find someone who is willing to build a life together with you, have values. I don't think I'm such a snowflake, there are people who value that and have that notion. I've talked to women like that, but they're rare, most are NPCs.

 

[bonaparte]

Ik the first honeymoon phase is dictated almost entirely by looks... but after a period of being together will there be a time when even if she sees a 6'5 maher type jock interested in her shell stay faithful? Is such a thing possible in our day and age? Will this change if you have children together, and you guys are really pair bonded?

I don't think so. Genetically women will always look for the strongest and most attractive man. The only solution is to become extremely attractive, but genetics won't let it in 99% of the cases.

 

[Deleted member 23558]

everyone knows that this happens, it is common knowledge in society: Both men and women over time lose that initial attraction of the relationship.
The thing is to find someone who is willing to build a life together with you, have values. I don't think I'm such a snowflake, there are people who value that and have that notion. I've talked to women like that, but they're rare, most are NPCs.

Where do you think I can get a woman like that? Church?

 

[Deleted member 21182]

everyone knows that this happens, it is common knowledge in society: Both men and women over time lose that initial attraction of the relationship.
The thing is to find someone who is willing to build a life together with you, have values. I don't think I'm such a snowflake, there are people who value that and have that notion. I've talked to women like that, but they're rare, most are NPCs.

Problem is most people are too naive to understand what we think we want is not what we actually want and a woman even more so, you see the memes in blackpill all the time a woman says she wants a nice guy but she doesn't, you probably think this because you've not been given the option as not even chadlite would but, i bet you any money you want you could have a wife and kids if a attractive woman appears and asks you for sex and insists hard enough you will give in no matter how much you love ur wife we as men are wired for reproduction at a high level, we will fuck as many girls as it takes

And a woman is wired for hypergamy she will always wanna find a better man. Having kids will make situation a bit better will still not stop ur girl from cheating on ur back, I've seen girls who love their man to death but still have side men to cheat with , no matter who u are this will happen, you have to find an extremely religious girl to control this and i mean extremely since ik this first hand my mother cheated on my father due to hypergamy and she's as religious as one can get it's inevitable hypergamy is brutal either you date an ugly FOID like 2 points below u or u always be careful

 

[Deleted member 21182]

I don't think so. Genetically women will always look for the strongest and most attractive man. The only solution is to become extremely attractive, but genetics won't let it in 99% of the cases.

Exactly agree 100% it's not their fault it's hardwired there's no stopping it

 

[Deleted member 21182]

Where do you think I can get a woman like that? Church?

I personally don't think women like that exsist I've seen too much to ignore, but I'd say Muslim women are the most faithful or a heavily religious woman I'm not talking about the FOID that's in church every Sunday I'm talking fanatic who thinks she'll go to hell, since she will avoid some of her natural instincts in order to not go to hell

 

[bonaparte]

Where do you think I can get a woman like that? Church?

Perhaps, definitely not in a nightclub

 

[Eduardo DOV]

Problem is most people are too naive to understand what we think we want is not what we actually want and a woman even more so, you see the memes in blackpill all the time a woman says she wants a nice guy but she doesn't, you probably think this because you've not been given the option as not even chadlite would but, i bet you any money you want you could have a wife and kids if a attractive woman appears and asks you for sex and insists hard enough you will give in no matter how much you love ur wife we as men are wired for reproduction at a high level, we will fuck as many girls as it takes

And a woman is wired for hypergamy she will always wanna find a better man. Having kids will make situation a bit better will still not stop ur girl from cheating on ur back, I've seen girls who love their man to death but still have side men to cheat with , no matter who u are this will happen, you have to find an extremely religious girl to control this and i mean extremely since ik this first hand my mother cheated on my father due to hypergamy and she's as religious as one can get it's inevitable hypergamy is brutal either you date an ugly FOID like 2 points below u or u always be careful

I think you are a mental wanker.
I mean, who fucking cares what is our "true dark nature" like you're saying. JFL.
What matters is the REAL WORLD, the real possibilities. It's not like there's a chad or stacy around every corner testing couples' loyalty. I believe chads and stacies have more to do.
I'm not going to not have a relationship for the imagined possibility of a chad or stacy testing me or my wife.

you have seen several cases(how many?) of women who cheat on their husbands does not mean that all of them cheat on their husbands.
If one day I find out that my wife is cheating on me, I'll leave her, simple as that.



The only argument I take seriously from mgtows is the issue of laws favoring women.

 

[Eduardo DOV]

I personally don't think women like that exsist I've seen too much to ignore, but I'd say Muslim women are the most faithful or a heavily religious woman I'm not talking about the FOID that's in church every Sunday I'm talking fanatic who thinks she'll go to hell, since she will avoid some of her natural instincts in order to not go to hell

> I've seen too much
too much where? how many cases and where?

Where do you think I can get a woman like that? Church?

maybe, but take care. but yes it's a good place.
I would say that a good filter is instagram, if she has a lot of pictures in bikinis and normie things, she is not good for a long-term relationship.



Women's libido is much lower/different than men's. I've talked to several women, and those who like to talk about sexual things are rare. And I have good looks and a gL big dick. It is notorious for me the difference in behavior between women (all who liked my appearance) it is obvious, I would say that at most one in ten is sexually easy. And even those whores, most seem to do it to please me rather than because they really like sex that much.

There are women who hate sex, those who were sexually abused as children and left traumatized. The problem is that they are kinda depressed/suicidal.

 

[Eduardo DOV]

I think the most humiliating thing about cheating is imagining that the woman preferred the other guy's DICK to yours. But apparently (I use my experience as evidence), big/thick/good looking dick isn't even that relevant, it's just kind of cool for the woman, but it's not as important as most men think it is. It must be like a woman's breast size for us, something like that.

 

[Eduardo DOV]

or it's very important, I don't know to be honest.

I just know that in my experience if you're an idiot, all physical halos will be useless. Unless of course you're gorgeous giga chad, then I don't know what happens.

 

[Eduardo DOV]

@BrahminBoss what is your plan to looksmax?

 

[Deleted member 21182]

I think you are a mental wanker.
I mean, who fucking cares what is our "true dark nature" like you're saying. JFL.
What matters is the REAL WORLD, the real possibilities. It's not like there's a chad or stacy around every corner testing couples' loyalty. I believe chads and stacies have more to do.
I'm not going to not have a relationship for the imagined possibility of a chad or stacy testing me or my wife.

you have seen several cases(how many?) of women who cheat on their husbands does not mean that all of them cheat on their husbands.
If one day I find out that my wife is cheating on me, I'll leave her, simple as that.



The only argument I take seriously from mgtows is the issue of laws favoring women.

It’s human evolution there’s a reason men Specifically have more porbability of being dark tried, someone like you won’t see it one day you’ll see enough and once u get ur heartbroken one too many times youll reslize for now there’s nothing to say since we take people too much for principles and their word when it doesn’t work that way

you can say yk the real world but this is studied for years it’s no rumor male and female nature are a thing and unfortunately we have to find a way around it love isn’t real it’s temporary

naturally we aren’t meant to settle down and marry so love isn’t meant to last forever, we aren’t as smart or as in contr as we think you’ll see that soon

 

[Deleted member 16275]

 

[Eduardo DOV]

It’s human evolution there’s a reason men Specifically have more porbability of being dark tried, someone like you won’t see it one day you’ll see enough and once u get ur heartbroken one too many times youll reslize for now there’s nothing to say since we take people too much for principles and their word when it doesn’t work that way

you can say yk the real world but this is studied for years it’s no rumor male and female nature are a thing and unfortunately we have to find a way around it love isn’t real it’s temporary

naturally we aren’t meant to settle down and marry so love isn’t meant to last forever, we aren’t as smart or as in contr as we think you’ll see that soon

"the real world" is also a thing.
I just talked from my experience. I'm 26 yo, I've seen a lot of shit.
I had a phase where I had similar ideas to yours.

the real world is that families exist and society exists. There are women who follow the value of finding betrayal something repugnant, But you have to make sure she's not a larper. Yes, you could make a mistake and get fucked, because nothing is certain in life.
Of course, the woman cannot earn more than you, for example.
In my opinion love is a strong bond that is established between two people, you can develop this with anyone, including a woman who has lived with you for years.

That is, she would help you with your goals and take care of you if you needed it.

No one is talking about a disney fairytale here.
The goal is to get a woman who will live by your side for many years and raise your children with you with the same values as yours.
This is possible for many men. Your idea seems to be that this is naive because the woman will definitely cheat on you with the neighbor. Even if she cheated on you with the neighbor it would be worth it imo, as long as she doesn't do it right away in the first years.

 

[Marsiere214]

if by true love you mean platonic love then you can have children

 

[Deleted member 21182]

"the real world" is also a thing.
I just talked from my experience. I'm 26 yo, I've seen a lot of shit.
I had a phase where I had similar ideas to yours.

the real world is that families exist and society exists. There are women who follow the value of finding betrayal something repugnant, But you have to make sure she's not a larper. Yes, you could make a mistake and get fucked, because nothing is certain in life.
Of course, the woman cannot earn more than you, for example.
In my opinion love is a strong bond that is established between two people, you can develop this with anyone, including a woman who has lived with you for years.

That is, she would help you with your goals and take care of you if you needed it.

No one is talking about a disney fairytale here.
The goal is to get a woman who will live by your side for many years and raise your children with you with the same values as yours.
This is possible for many men. Your idea seems to be that this is naive because the woman will definitely cheat on you with the neighbor. Even if she cheated on you with the neighbor it would be worth it imo, as long as she doesn't do it right away in the first years.

You can’t fight nature my friend it’s hardwired, humans weren’t designed to make families humans were designed to just reproduce, what you see and you think is happening often isn’t

 

[Eduardo DOV]

You can’t fight nature my friend it’s hardwired, humans weren’t designed to make families humans were designed to just reproduce, what you see and you think is happening often isn’t

what do you man by fighting nature?
my mom is here helping with home for 26+ years, is my dad fighting nature?

So who forced them to form families? Nature is all that exists, if it formed families it is because it did and its a good thing for society = nature.
Dude, if you want to hang out at swing clubs or live in an alternative modern relationship, just go. No need to invent theories for this. jfl.

 

[Deleted member 21182]

what do you man by fighting nature?
my mom is here helping with home for 26+ years, is my dad fighting nature?

So who forced them to form families? Nature is all that exists, if it formed families it is because it did and its a good thing for society = nature.
Dude, if you want to hang out at swing clubs or live in an alternative modern relationship, just go. No need to invent theories for this. jfl.

They form families but if given the opportunity to cheat it will be taken that’s why marrying a pretty girl is riske

 

[Eduardo DOV]

They form families but if given the opportunity to cheat it will be taken that’s why marrying a pretty girl is riske

who fucking cares if they cheat one day if this opportunity arises? jfl
it's not cool, but what exactly is the big deal with it? As long as the woman does not get pregnant from it.

a society with families is a much healthier society, one without families would be a worse version of what this one has already become, full of mentally ill children of single mothers.

 

[Deleted member 21182]

Well

who fucking cares if they cheat one day if this opportunity arises? jfl
it's not cool, but what exactly is the big deal with it? As long as the woman does not get pregnant from it.

a society with families is a much healthier society, one without families would be a worse version of what this one has already become, full of mentally ill children of single mothers.

I personally don’t wanna be a cuck

 

[Deleted member 2413]

True happiness lies with crisck unfrauded

 

[Eduardo DOV]

Well

I personally don’t wanna be a cuck

small dick complex

 

[Eduardo DOV]

Well

I personally don’t wanna be a cuck

why your wife cant have some action with other men? just to vary a little

 

[Gonthar]

Ik the first honeymoon phase is dictated almost entirely by looks... but after a period of being together will there be a time when even if she sees a 6'5 maher type jock interested in her shell stay faithful? Is such a thing possible in our day and age? Will this change if you have children together, and you guys are really pair bonded?

Didn't you say you're from India?
No Maher there, no worries that she'll cheat on you, just arrange marriage and you're done!

 

[horizontallytall]

I beleve in acceptions but a human who doesn’t obide by reproduction laws is as rare as a needle in a haystack and you wooul tell them apart until it happens to u, it’s nature I’ve seen it happen too much even to chad, a woman will get bored of chad even since she fell in love with her first impres of him the badboy not the nice family man with Children and a morgage it’s brutal

High iq guy buy ur posts u never seemed to be though

 

[horizontallytall]

B

Problem is most people are too naive to understand what we think we want is not what we actually want and a woman even more so, you see the memes in blackpill all the time a woman says she wants a nice guy but she doesn't, you probably think this because you've not been given the option as not even chadlite would but, i bet you any money you want you could have a wife and kids if a attractive woman appears and asks you for sex and insists hard enough you will give in no matter how much you love ur wife we as men are wired for reproduction at a high level, we will fuck as many girls as it takes

And a woman is wired for hypergamy she will always wanna find a better man. Having kids will make situation a bit better will still not stop ur girl from cheating on ur back, I've seen girls who love their man to death but still have side men to cheat with , no matter who u are this will happen, you have to find an extremely religious girl to control this and i mean extremely since ik this first hand my mother cheated on my father due to hypergamy and she's as religious as one can get it's inevitable hypergamy is brutal either you date an ugly FOID like 2 points below u or u always be careful

Eing careful is useless going against nature is waste of your time. Only thing that can work is changing brain chemistry like how men who watch porn and have alcohol addiction will not cheat provived his looks are a small crossable barrier. Same with women . But i dont think any such thing in women that can bound them. Only thing was religion and now its almost a meme for the new generation . Only hope for a high iq and understanding man is to regain your own nature of spreading ur seed and getting rid of this morals imposed and concentrated on u since childhood.U must moneymaxx for this

 

[horizontallytall]

It’s human evolution there’s a reason men Specifically have more porbability of being dark tried, someone like you won’t see it one day you’ll see enough and once u get ur heartbroken one too many times youll reslize for now there’s nothing to say since we take people too much for principles and their word when it doesn’t work that way

you can say yk the real world but this is studied for years it’s no rumor male and female nature are a thing and unfortunately we have to find a way around it love isn’t real it’s temporary

naturally we aren’t meant to settle down and marry so love isn’t meant to last forever, we aren’t as smart or as in contr as we think you’ll see that soon

Man what happened to you today . Nice to see this high wisdom and high iq side of yours

 

[Deleted member 21182]

Man what happened to you today . Nice to see this high wisdom and high iq side of yours

im not posting much anymore so when I do might as well try to be useful