Discussion Very interesting map on European genetics

[Deleted member 10987]

khalid>rums+sasissynides

Yeah but thats not the subject bro

 

[Deleted member 3043]

copeity cope

gypsy like juliencentral are not worthy of our blood. repent for such blasphemy

 

[Deleted member 3043]

Yeah but thats not the subject bro

tbh but still, mogger. have you watched the tv show omar?

 

[sensen]

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mog battle or stfu shitskin

 

[Blue]

gypsy like juliencentral are not worthy of our blood. repent for such blasphemy

why hate your aryan brothers?

 

[Blue]

mog battle or stfu shitskin

SS soldier

 

[Deleted member 3043]

why hate your aryan brothers?

gypsy are nothing until they repent.I value everyone, but disregard those who act bad. Gypsy live outside of others, and live by robbery and others bad deeds.

 

[hairyballscel]

jfl what?

a 7,000-year-old early farmer from the LBK culture from Stuttgart in Southern Germany

stuttgart is the supposed to be represetative of early european farmers

its the orange

 

[Deleted member 10987]

tbh but still, mogger. have you watched the tv show omar?

No
Its good and accurate ??

 

[curryslayerordeath]

inb4 thread turns into 'we wuzz kangz'ing

 

[Deleted member 3043]

No
Its good and accurate ??

ye tbh, accurate. Not ideal with the representation of the companion, but still one of the best shows up to date.

 

[Deleted member 3043]

inb4 thread turns into 'we wuzz kangz'ing

if you not curry you'r not kingz.

 

[curryslayerordeath]

if you not curry you'r not kingz.

hey most curries may be some ugly ass motherfuckers

but at least they had an extremely rich history (within all of their cultures) and have made many progressions to the collective human knowledge (in ancient and now current times).

 

[Deleted member 3043]

hey most curries may be some ugly ass motherfuckers

but at least they had an extremely rich history (within all of their cultures) and have made many progressions to the collective human knowledge (in ancient and now current times).

agree. but i don't believe in absolute beauty standards dw, so i will never call them ugly on purpose. And they'r God's creation too.

But this part :
"and now current times" :

 

[TsarTsar444]

a 7,000-year-old early farmer from the LBK culture from Stuttgart in Southern Germany

stuttgart is the supposed to be represetative of early european farmers

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its the orange

Ok and what does it have to do with Africa?

 

[Deleted member 3043]

@MakinItHappen bro here is some lifefuel : because back in time, you were not only not curry in the heart, nor in the mind, but ALSO not in the MUG.

 

[hairyballscel]

Ok and what does it have to do with Africa?

"The split time of the ghost Basal Eurasian lineage from other Eurasians was inferred at 79.8 kya (95% CI of 67.4-101 kya)."

44% of the DNA of the Stuttgart(LBK/Early European farmers) remains was basal eurasian

Basal eurasian split off 80,000 years ago, which predates the out of Africa movement

 

[Deleted member 10987]

ye tbh, accurate. Not ideal with the representation of the companion, but still one of the best shows up to date.

They used curved swords and leather armor
My historical autism is trough the roofs

 

[Deleted member 10987]

hey most curries may be some ugly ass motherfuckers

but at least they had an extremely rich history (within all of their cultures) and have made many progressions to the collective human knowledge (in ancient and now current times).

Good food + intersting indo euro mythos + good fauna

 

[TsarTsar444]

"The split time of the ghost Basal Eurasian lineage from other Eurasians was inferred at 79.8 kya (95% CI of 67.4-101 kya)."

44% of the DNA of the Stuttgart(LBK/Early European farmers) remains was basal eurasian

Basal eurasian split off 80,000 years ago, which predates the out of Africa movement

 

[turkproducer]

@turkproducer thought?

I wanna get dna test, have you ever considered

 

[hairyballscel]

if out of Africa occured 60,000 years ago

and basal eurasian split off 80,000 years ago

that means the split occured when only Africa was populated

meaning... its African, the split occured in Africa

 

[Deleted member 3043]

this is angelic skull : the consequence of it is tiny skull - cute - with compact midface in absolute number - not due to wide ipd but to short nose because of tiny skull -, and wide fwhr relatively due to it because shorter face, and diamond shaped lower third.

Ideally she also has relatively cute eyes - not hooded or full of fat but with a bit of uee, and wide pfl.

nose has to be slightly upturned and overall good shaped.

That's about all you need for a female to be gl and approachable and cute for ltr/marriage, and that's what you consider instinctively as cute. It's linked to the skull.

Same way why real men need taller ramus to have taller skull, and taller face without having a taller midface. tall ramus is very important for males.

here are some examples of those women :

girl on right, look at how she has kinda worse nose, and eyes according to psl but still fog hard in cuteness the girl on her left.

 

[TsarTsar444]

if out of Africa occured 60,000 years ago

and basal eurasian split off 80,000 years ago

that means the split occured when only Africa was populated

meaning... its African, the split occured in Africa

Ok and? People with high Neolithic dna like Greeks, Albanians look pretty European, nothing african there

 

[Deleted member 3043]

I wanna get dna test, have you ever considered

i will definitively get it ngl. just tryna see if there is a lower priced one.
But for us from western asia and eastern med, we need to take the data and use it in more specialized algorithms.
@sytyl told me about that.

 

[Deleted member 10987]

this is angelic skull : the consequence of it is tiny skull - cute - with compact midface in absolute number - not due to wide ipd but to short nose because of tiny skull -, and wide fwhr relatively due to it because shorter face, and diamond shaped lower third.

Ideally she also has relatively cute eyes - not hooded or full of fat but with a bit of uee, and wide pfl.

nose has to be slightly upturned and overall good shaped.

That's about all you need for a female to be gl and approachable and cute for ltr/marriage, and that's what you consider instinctively as cute. It's linked to the skull.

Same way why real men need taller ramus to have taller skull, and taller face without having a taller midface. tall ramus is very important for males.

here are some examples of those women :
View attachment 976292 View attachment 976294 girl on right, look at how she has kinda worse nose, and eyes according to psl but still fog hard in cuteness the girl on her left.

Women cant have hooding

 

[Blue]

gypsy are nothing until they repent.I value everyone, but disregard those who act bad. Gypsy live outside of others, and live by robbery and others bad deeds.

true. they should be stripped of their title as honourary aryans.

 

[turkproducer]

i will definitively get it ngl. just tryna see if there is a lower priced one.
But for us from western asia and eastern med, we need to take the data and use it in more specialized algorithms.
@sytyl told me about that.

in b4 70% central asian and 30% gulf arab

 

[Deleted member 3043]

They used curved swords and leather armor
My historical autism is trough the roofs

ye they do

 

[TsarTsar444]

in b4 70% central asian and 30% gulf arab

I think it's useless ifbyou want to see very accurate dna, they will just tell you some bullshit like 60% greek, 30% Eastern European, 10% jew jfl

 

[turkproducer]

i will definitively get it ngl. just tryna see if there is a lower priced one.
But for us from western asia and eastern med, we need to take the data and use it in more specialized algorithms.
@sytyl told me about that.

how do we do that?

 

[Deleted member 10987]

ye they do

Why ?
It look like shit
Real accurate armor and straight swords look 1000 % cooler

 

[Deleted member 3043]

in b4 70% central asian and 30% gulf arab

imagine all of this for this. it will be over.

 

[hairyballscel]

Ok and? People with high Neolithic dna like Greeks, Albanians look pretty European, nothing african there

Skin colour and facial features are very strongly influenced by environment

Surely australian aboriginals should carry a lot of African ancestry with this logic, yet they are genetically very distant to Africans and actually closer to Europeans

Greeks carry some E African lineages aswell

 

[Deleted member 3043]

Why ?
It look like shit
Real accurate armor and straight swords look 1000 % cooler

it's accurate historically that's why.

 

[Deleted member 10987]

Skin colour and facial features are very strongly influenced by environment

Surely australian aboriginals should carry a lot of African ancestry with this logic, yet they are genetically very distant to Africans and actually closer to Europeans

Greeks carry some E African lineages aswell

EB1B1 is Berber African
Balkans have E too

 

[Deleted member 10987]

it's accurate historically that's why.

No its not

 

[TsarTsar444]

Skin colour and facial features are very strongly influenced by environment

Surely australian aboriginals should carry a lot of African ancestry with this logic, yet they are genetically very distant to Africans and actually closer to Europeans

Greeks carry some E African lineages aswell

Ok and? Evolution that drastic happens in much longer time span, you trying to say people who brought E halpgroup looked fully african in 50 000bc and now in 2020 they look fully white? Jfl 50k is not enough for a drastic change like that

 

[Deleted member 3043]

No its not

during omar reign? I'm looking at it again actually it's straight sword and leather armor in the show.

 

[Deleted member 10987]

during omar reign? I'm looking at it again actually it's straight sword and leather armor in the show.

Leather armor was never used
It was scale or chainmail

 

[Deleted member 3043]

Leather armor was never used
It was scale or chainmail

what is this ?

 

[Deleted member 10987]

what is this ?
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Is that omar ??
Look Chad as fuck
But its leather and that was not used

The sword is straight tho

 

[Deleted member 3043]

Is that omar ??
Look Chad as fuck
But its leather and that was not used

The sword is straight tho

it's supposed to be khalid.

 

[Deleted member 3043]

keep jfl reacting to angelic skull @Blue you shitniks

 

[Blue]

keep jfl reacting to angelic skull @Blue you shitniks

just giving you well deserved reps, man

 

[hairyballscel]

EB1B1 is Berber African
Balkans have E too

if ur reffering to E1B1B, its actually horn of African, where its more common than it is among berbers

Ok and? Evolution that drastic happens in much longer time span, you trying to say people who brought E halpgroup looked fully african in 50 000bc and now in 2020 they look fully white? Jfl 50k is not enough for a drastic change like that

i never said they looked fully African

Basal Eurasian likely evolved in North Africa, where it is subtropical so the need to be very darkskin is present, and microevolution is known to have occured amongst coastal North Africans resulting in a less stereotypical African look

fully african in 50 000bc and now in 2020 they look fully white? Jfl 50k is not enough for a drastic change like that

50k years is definitely enough time for such a drastic change

out of Africa movement started around 60,000 years ago, genes for lightskin have been around for over 10,000 years

so 50,000 years is defo enough time

 

[Deleted member 10987]

if ur reffering to E1B1B, its actually horn of African, where its more common than it is among berbers

i never said they looked fully African

Basal Eurasian likely evolved in North Africa, where it is subtropical so the need to be very darkskin is present, and microevolution is known to have occured amongst coastal North Africans resulting in a less stereotypical African look


50k years is definitely enough time for such a drastic change

out of Africa movement started around 60,000 years ago, genes for lightskin have been around for over 10,000 years

so 50,000 years is defo enough time

What about berbers ?
E what ?

 

[hairyballscel]

What about berbers ?
E what ?

they carry a ton of E1B1B

but mostly E-Z827 i believe

 

[Deleted member 9344]

they carry a ton of E1B1B

but mostly E-Z827 i believe

Offtopic question but, where do you think the haplogroup T component in Horners came from? I heard some people say it came from Iraq & other came from the Levant in prehistoric times.

 

[hairyballscel]

Offtopic question but, where do you think the haplogroup T component in Horners came from? I heard some people say it came from Iraq & other came from the Levant in prehistoric times.

im not too sure tbh

but T haplotypes are older in Egypt than they are in the Horn, indicating they passed through Egypt, this is important

Haplogroup T probably originated in the middle east, specifically Iran

The best fitting model for the Somali includes Tanzania_Luxmanda_3100BP ancestry, Dinka-related ancestry, and 16% ± 3% Iranian-Neolithic-related ancestry (p = 0.015). This suggests that ancestry related to the Iranian Neolithic appeared in eastern Africa after earlier gene flow related to Levant Neolithic populations, a scenario that is made more plausible by the genetic evidence of admixture of Iranian-Neolithic-related ancestry throughout the Levant by the time of the Bronze Age (Lazaridis et al., 2016) and in ancient Egypt by the Iron Age (Schuenemann et al., 2017)."

- Reconstructing Prehistoric African Population Structure​

Somali are a mixture of Mota and a population on the Iran_ChL→Levant_BA cline.

- Genomic insights into the origin of farming in the ancient Near East​

now look at this,
this is looking at how much these ancient middle eastern groups fit into the horn of africa
the greater the number the more likely that type of ancestry(or something closely related) is in these populations so look at Iran and the levant,
for semitic and cushitic speaking horn of africans they are consistently the biggest number, there are many more studies that attest to the fact that iranian/levantine neolithic/mesolthic related DNA is very common in the horn of Africa

so there are a few possible scenarios,

1, populations from the levant and iran migrated into the horn of africa, iranians carrying haplogroup T would have been present among these migrants, they would have passed through Egypt because haplogroup T is found in Egypt and is dated to be older, indicating that it was there earlier, cushitic ancestry is said to have formed somewhere in Egypt/Sudan, so these carriers would have migrated south into the horn of africa forming, somalis, ethiopians, eritreans and you know the rest

this makes sense because it explains the presence of T in the horn of Africa, and fits it into the already known fact that cushitic orignated in Egypt/Sudan, and corrobates with the fact that levantine/iranian related dna is strong in the horn of Africa

but the problem with this scenario is that, the Beja tribe of Egypt and Sudan who are the descendants of the Cushitic people that stayed in Egypt/Sudan, don't carry haplogroup T, or at least in very small numbers, also it doesnt explain why its so common in Somali yet quite rare among of horners

2, the iranian and neolithic dna in the horn is actually north african in origin(very likely) and haplogroup T was passed through some random iranians that just happened to reach the horn of africa(probably not trie)

3, haplogroup T originated in Africa(probably not)

scenario 1 is most likely, with the first part of scenario 2

so much of the so called iranian/levantine neolithic/mesolithic ancestry found in the horn of africa is actually north african dna found in the middle east, i have maintained this position for a while and more and more authors are hinting at this

so there is only small amounts of mesolithic iranian dna in the horn of africa but those groups would have been carrying Haplogroup T

so, yes, haplogroup T probably originated in Iran, some of those groups would have migrated to the levant, where there were bi directional migrations between the levant and Egypt, so there was some sort of genetic continuity between them, so haplogroup T would have been present in Egypt

Dinka related people mixed with these groups, forming cushitic ancestry and then migrated down south to the horn of Africa and the rest of East africa spreading haplogroup T