when will people actually accept height> face

[Br0sk1]

Imagine believing in what women say.

99.9% of women will choose a 5‘9 chad over a 6‘5+ normie

I think they'll choose a 5'4" Chad over the very tall normie, honestly.

I once made a Noszka catfish where I cherrypicked photos where his body proportions looked manletish, said he was 5'4" in the bio and he did absolutely fine.

 

[germanlooks]

6" length bp IS small boyo...

It’s average. And even if you insist on calling it small it is atleast not small when it’s combined with 6 inch girth

>without backing anything up

classic reddit argument thank god heuristics exists in scenarios where we don't have peer reviewed studies approved by redditors. anyone who's lived, known dudes who got laid solely because of their dick, seen LTRs fail because of dick, seen / heard conversations among girls where dudes weren't supposed to be / read the stuff, knows how insanely important dick is. but OBVIOUSLY i can't put that up into a "scientific study", fucking lol.

I don’t even care about studies that much. But you have just your opinion which seems also to be really biased since your definition of what a small dick is, is flawed.

No one denies that a big dick is a great benefit and that it for sure can help you to get laid in some cases.
But claiming that it’s more important than Face is just delusional.
You won’t find a single girl (besides a hardcore size queen maybe which are extremely rare) who would pick an ugly guy or even a normie with 8x6 over a chad with average dick. This is just not going to happen.

 

[Seth Walsh]

Holy shit when will this forum stop coping and just accept reality. Go out into the world and see how your treated based on your looks. Check out for yourself how many girls are attracted to you based on their behaviour and body language. I hate seeing people measuring ratios and angles like it's gonna change anything. All that crap feeds into the face rating grift.

It's literally harmony and height. I'm aware of all these ratios and shit but getting confidence to talk to girls after getting a good Wheat Waffles rating is the funniest shit I've ever seen. It's more hilarious than being told to hold frame and be "non-reactive".

Attraction is not a choice. If you keep analysing other men's faces, it's over. If you chase after girls who are already running away from you, it's over. Understand how to identify real attraction. I thought there was enough good free advice for looksmaxing on here from 2018-2019 and from lookism. The fact people are buying €100 per hour looksmaxxing consultations with WW to get told to chew wrigleys gum and put castor oil on your eyebrows is insane.


You don't need to "search for more". There is no secret surgery, no secret tips, no secret NTmaxxing drugs. Just understand and accept how attraction works it's so fucking simple.

You should know instantly if a girl is attracted to you. There's dudes buying pua bootcamps, new wardrobes, looksmaxxing guides, new bmws and shit, ruining their lives, driving themselves insane because they don't realise that attraction is innate human physiology. It's not something that can be created. And if you think you're attracting girls you couldn't before because you made some intervention, then you are being naive. If someone is not attracted to you when they see you for the first time, they will never be attracted to you ever in the future under any circumstance no matter what you do. Move on, don't waste money, just realise that attraction is not a choice.

So many men are getting taken for a ride, dating coaches disguised as looksmax experts are cashing out on the misery of men.

Wheat Waffles is the most successful dating coach scammer in the world right now. Soon he'll be raking in RSD money. So many suckers out there. He's giving "advice", telling people "don't text her back too fast or she'll lose attraction". If a girl is TRULY attracted to you, it doesn't matter if you text her at 550kmph through a websocket connection with 0 ping. Lookism is being used to grift and mislead. It's like seeing all the people who coped with AlphaM and TMF getting sucked in by Wheat Waffles and Hamza.

Over time, the grifts need to become more sophisticated and disguised, and they are. When will WW ever talk about how it is not possible to create or manipulate attraction because attraction is NOT a choice, it exists as an innate physiology. Selling advice to "be more attractive" is akin to selling advice to "be more confident". It is not real transferrable advice, it's a scam idk how people don't just see this

I don't like to be sensational but go back to the Meekspill and hybristophilia; tons of women sending him love letters and money in prison over a photo that was not even posted by him, the POLICE DEPARTMENT posted his mugshot.

There are people believing in this "improve your photos" bs thinking it can create non-existing attraction. Biggest scam of them all. Women run game on guys they want to lockdown or secure a relationship with. There is no "game" for men, and there's certainly no intervention that can make you create, increase or manipulate a woman's desire for you. If it doesn't exist, it never will. Can people see that Jeff Bezos girlfriend is not attracted to him? Can anyone just understand that NOTHING can create a woman's raw sexual desire for a man if it didn't exist based of the first contact?

WW/Hamza/QOVES studio etc are some of the most creative, deceptive conmen ever. Ask yourself, how does getting a face rating affect management in your own life? What does it change? Nothing. It's a bad cope for the misguided. Then you have people obsessed with Male Models submitting photos of Opry, Chico, Gandy, their entire highschool, their soccer team, their friends, enemies, celebrities to WW. 1 customer for him is not just 1x $5. People are so obsessed with looks theory that they buy face ratings for everyone except themselves thinking any of this shit is gonna change anything or help them.

 

[PrinceLuenLeoncur]

Chadlets like Zac Efron, Tom Cruise are in Hollywood and many 6'5-6'7 guys are posting here

You can’t see their height on camera and they are chads ffs don’t be a retard. That’s like saying “5/10 normies would be incel if they are manlets but luckily the 5/10 guy is 6’4 and now he’s a slayer” like no shit he’s not only tall he’s really fucking tall at 6’4.

The avg man would be slayer if he was 6’5 the same way the avg man would be slayer if his face was elevated to 8/10

 

[gamma]

they are chads ffs

That's the point, as I said they're chadlets and chadlets have more success than tall normies

 

[PrinceLuenLeoncur]

That's the point, as I said they're chadlets and chadlets have more success than tall normies

Chads yes, chadlites? Debatable if chadlite is 5’11+ then yes if below that then no.

 

[abeilletoimême]

@germanlooks is right, I don't doubt for a second that a 1.65m Chad with have a broader appeal than a 2 metres tall normie

 

[attarde75]

heLLo iM 6'2

 

[Britmaxxer]

height is useless without face

face is useless without height.

maybe both are equal? or is nuance too hard for aspergers PSLers to grasp.

 

[AlexanderTheGreat]

@germanlooks is right, I don't doubt for a second that a 1.65cm Chad with have a broader appeal than a 2 metres tall normie

Yes, but such kind of situation would never occur IRL where a woman has to choose among them.

If a woman is becky+, she will have lots of orbiters ranging from tall htn to short chad (others are invisible to her). Obviously she will shoot for a tall chad if she can find. If not she will choose the tall HTN...

And by short chad I mean a chad who is shorter than her... even if you are chad you'll be invisible to her if you are shorter than her. I have observed this happening a lot IRL, as well as seen some studies that back up this claim.

Just look at TikTok to see how prevalent height obsession is in foids of most cultures.

 

[Deleted member 12234]

Still waiting for someone to do a tinder experiment with a short chad vs a tall ugly dude. What women say vs what women actually go for. I've been saying to do this experiment for months yet no one has stepped up to the challenge.

 

[AlexanderTheGreat]

Still waiting for someone to do a tinder experiment with a short chad vs a tall ugly dude. What women say vs what women actually go for. I've been saying to do this experiment for months yet no one has stepped up to the challenge.

Tinder won't give accurate results... since foids won't have visual perception... they might say something and do something else. This needs to be done IRL.

 

[Deleted member 12234]

Tinder won't give accurate results... since foids won't have visual perception... they might say something and do something else. This needs to be done IRL.

so cope. I love how dudes say not to believe women when they say "personality matters more" but do a 180 turn around and want to believe them when they say they'd take a tall ugly dude over a short chad. The only data I support is empirical evidence. Cant have it both ways boyo.

 

[AlexanderTheGreat]

so cope. I love how dudes say not to believe women when they say "personality matters more" but do a 180 turn around and want to believe when when they say they'd take a tall ugly dude over a short chad. The only data I support is empirical evidence. Cant have it both ways boyo.

Tall ugly guy won't have a chance. And as I said before such kind of tall ugly vs short handsome won't even happen in a foid's life.

I was only talking about the accuracy of tinder results... since its impossible for anyone, including foids to accurately judge height through 2D pictures. And I am not saying that foids lie, and what they do is different from what they say... What I am saying is that foids wouldn't have a good 'numerical' understanding of height since their own height is so easily changed from morning to evening (heels, platforms, etc.)

 

[youngmax]

Still waiting for someone to do a tinder experiment with a short chad vs a tall ugly dude. What women say vs what women actually go for. I've been saying to do this experiment for months yet no one has stepped up to the challenge.

@Xangsane

 

[Deleted member 16474]

 

[abeilletoimême]

And by short chad I mean a chad who is shorter than her... even if you are chad you'll be invisible to her if you are shorter than her

Disagree, I know some real-life counterexamples, ie short Chadlites being in LTR with tall Stacylites

 

[AlexanderTheGreat]

Disagree, I know some real-life counterexamples, ie short Chadlites being in LTR with tall Stacylites

Dude, let me know how they do it...
Because if it does then I might legit ascend with my chad-tier southern italian face.

From my experience, I rarely get attention from taller foids. Almost all tall foids stacylite/stacy I have seen have chad orbiters looking to bang her. Hence they have no reason to pay attention to a short chad like me. I stand no chance there.

 

[AlexanderTheGreat]

Because as long as the chad isn’t extremely short he will mog the normie

I don't understand how that's possible.

Irrespective of whether you are aesthetic or not, a short chad's skull will always be smaller than a tall HTN's. The skull-mogging will be brutal and it won't matter that you are chad.

 

[MediterraneanApollo]

People here are coping because height isn’t as much of a factor in your teens and Highschool , it’s still important but u get away with being short if ur handsome . It changes after that height becomes more important and face declines. After 20 height > face after 40 your face is legit a meme as a man it simply doesn’t matter it’s all height and status after that.

That is only due to the fact that most men (like 98 % IRL) are descending hard after their 30s and they are using the next best thing after face to judge their place in hierarchy
Jfl at thinking that a good faced Chad in his 40s (think prime Pitt in Troy) would be denied due to only being 5'9 tall
He would dominate every social situation even while working as freaking construction worker, do not ridicule yourself
In contrary, as late adult your face will increase in importance due to the rarity of post prime Chads
The face will always be the highest value for quality in life, normies set different rules because they were never meant to play the game anyway

 

[ROTTING]

Dude, let me know how they do it...
Because if it does then I might legit ascend with my chad-tier southern italian face.

From my experience, I rarely get attention from taller foids. Almost all tall foids stacylite/stacy I have seen have chad orbiters looking to bang her. Hence they have no reason to pay attention to a short chad like me. I stand no chance there.

Post chad-tier face.

 

[Br0sk1]

Dude, let me know how they do it...
Because if it does then I might legit ascend with my chad-tier southern italian face.

From my experience, I rarely get attention from taller foids. Almost all tall foids stacylite/stacy I have seen have chad orbiters looking to bang her. Hence they have no reason to pay attention to a short chad like me. I stand no chance there.

If you truly have a Chad face, why not just ascend using Tinder? Or any of the other dating apps for that matter.

 

[AlexanderTheGreat]

If you truly have a Chad face, why not just ascend using Tinder? Or any of the other dating apps for that matter.

Tinder is fucked. From what I have seen, it's just an instagram farm at this point with attractive foids mostly using it to farm instagram followers. They mostly never reply back on tinder itself... and I have no interest in becoming their insta follower just to be able to get a chance to DM them.

I legit tried both using my own photos, as well as fishing using an obscure chad from another country. Did not receive any replies back. Same thing I tried on the other apps too. Endless swiping across multiple days with very few responses in return.

Imagine this, if foids most of the time do not agree to meet someone they see in person IRL, how can they meet to agree someone they met online?

 

[AlexanderTheGreat]

Post chad-tier face.

Reserved only for stacies.

JK.
I don't wanna get doxxed.

Disagree, I know some real-life counterexamples, ie short Chadlites being in LTR with tall Stacylites

Dude, let me know how they do it...
Because if it does then I might legit ascend with my chad-tier southern italian face.

From my experience, I rarely get attention from taller foids. Almost all tall foids stacylite/stacy I have seen have chad orbiters looking to bang her. Hence they have no reason to pay attention to a short chad like me. I stand no chance there.

I am still interested in knowing how the short chadlites got tall stacylite LTR. Tall stacylite/stacy foids legit don't pay any attention to me... but then again I'm not white looking. Got dark eyes and olive skin... so maybe that explains it.

 

[Br0sk1]

Tinder is fucked. From what I have seen, it's just an instagram farm at this point with attractive foids mostly using it to farm instagram followers. They mostly never reply back on tinder itself... and I have no interest in becoming their insta follower just to be able to get a chance to DM them.

I legit tried both using my own photos, as well as fishing using an obscure chad from another country. Did not receive any replies back. Same thing I tried on the other apps too. Endless swiping across multiple days with very few responses in return.

Imagine this, if foids most of the time do not agree to meet someone they see in person IRL, how can they meet to agree someone they met online?

I think maybe you're overrating your face if you're not getting good engagement from women on apps. That said, it may just be getting so difficult now that you need to open with very witty messages and will need to put the lion's share of effort into each convo in order to have them continue. Going to chase some of the women on their Instagram accounts may also be necessary.

They could potentially agree to meet you if they meet you online because your face will be a halo on apps and your height will be largely irrelevant and not an immediate failo.

 

[ROTTING]

Reserved only for stacies.

JK.
I don't wanna get doxxed.



I am still interested in knowing how the short chadlites got tall stacylite LTR. Tall stacylite/stacy foids legit don't pay any attention to me... but then again I'm not white looking. Got dark eyes and olive skin... so maybe that explains it.

Send in PM if you’re afraid of getting doxxed. Can’t just claim Chad-tier face like it’s nothing bhai. A solid Chad-tier face is giga rare. No hard feeling but this is like a faggot redditor claiming “I’m something of a Chad myself”

 

[AlexanderTheGreat]

I think maybe you're overrating your face if you're not getting good engagement from women on apps. That said, it may just be getting so difficult now that you need to open with very witty messages and will need to put the lion's share of effort into each convo in order to have them continue. Going to chase some of the women on their Instagram accounts may also be necessary.

They could potentially agree to meet you if they meet you online because your face will be a halo on apps and your height will be largely irrelevant and not an immediate failo.

Maybe... maybe I am overrating my face... in any case I don't care.

Yeah, it's definitely getting difficult to get replies back. Like I said, I even tried with celebrities who had similar looking faces as me (non-white) and did not get good response rate. Hence I gave up. Every profile seems the same to me and I am bored of it.

I am much more happier day-gaming and approaching as it suits my low-inhibness. I also get good results that way. Legit two foids approached me just today out of the blue.

Many ways I think I am paying the non-white tax on tinder.

 

[Deleted member 18849]

Holy truecel

>I love anorexic girls

Over.

 

[Deleted member 23558]

I’d say of these short and handsome or tall snd ugly 90% of women chose tall and ugly. It’s a hard fact and it doesn’t matter which culture west Asia or Africa we need to accept this that height is the biggest attractive feature and second is face and muscle

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[Deleted member 26535]

This is the „ugly“ tall guy they have in their mind:

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This. Its just a shitty question since height is easily quantifiable, while its more complicated with face

Not to mention these corny poll videos are 99% about virtue signalling, and saying you want a tall guy is much less of a taboo

Lol at the irony of tall incels here liking these posts