10 days post op genio

[TransactionalLife2]

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I got back home from Italy yesterday, there is still swelling frontal wise, but in terms of side profile I think that's how it's going to look permanently, maybe the chin will be slightly less taller, overall im very happy with the result and will keep updating and post frontal once the swelling is gone

 

[TransactionalLife2]

@turkcelfatcel

 

[Cranium]

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I got back home from Italy yesterday, there is still swelling frontal wise, but in terms of side profile I think that's how it's going to look permanently, maybe the chin will be slightly less taller, overall im very happy with the result and will keep updating and post frontal once the swelling is gone

looks very good, but again the swelling will exaggerate the projection a bit.

 

[TransactionalLife2]

looks very good, but again the swelling will exaggerate the projection a bit.

I don't think so maybe making the chin taller, because I touch the tip of the chin and there Is almost to no fat / tissue there, meaning from what i see on the side profile is bone, but again you might be right, I can only wait and see

 

[yussimania]

You can see the step off where the cut was performed - not that deep but this is one of the few cases where the gonial angle can be increased slightly as it has moved the menton downwards

 

[TransactionalLife2]

You can see the step off where the cut was performed - not that deep but this is one of the few cases where the gonial angle can be increased slightly as it has moved the mention downwards

Is that good or bad

 

[ThanksForTheHGHMom]

Looks worth it, great job op

 

[TransactionalLife2]

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Looks worth it, great job op

Thanks

 

[turkcelfatcel]

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I got back home from Italy yesterday, there is still swelling frontal wise, but in terms of side profile I think that's how it's going to look permanently, maybe the chin will be slightly less taller, overall im very happy with the result and will keep updating and post frontal once the swelling is gone

Lets see how it looks once swellings gone

Can you please show the difference of ur front as well?

 

[VrillFatNoob24]

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I got back home from Italy yesterday, there is still swelling frontal wise, but in terms of side profile I think that's how it's going to look permanently, maybe the chin will be slightly less taller, overall im very happy with the result and will keep updating and post frontal once the swelling is gone

very good mirin, mind tagging me if you make a post after swelling?

 

[vermicel]

In a more readable before/after format :

Strong masculine chin. I just hope the step-off won't become an issue after fat loss.

 

[Nahorscend]

In a more readable before/after format :

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Strong masculine chin. I just hope the step-off won't become an issue after fat loss.

I swear you are the most helpful person on this website lol holy good samaritan

 

[TransactionalLife2]

very good mirin, mind tagging me if you make a post after swelling?

Sure

 

[TransactionalLife2]

In a more readable before/after format :

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Strong masculine chin. I just hope the step-off won't become an issue after fat loss.

What does step off mean, I'm kinda confused on what to focus here

 

[tomahawk]

Very impressive

 

[TransactionalLife2]

Lets see how it looks once swellings gone

Can you please show the difference of ur front as well?

Sure

 

[Assymetry]

What does step off mean, I'm kinda confused on what to focus here

Because the chin was made taller, his jaw and chin might not have a smooth transition. I circled the part where it might be.

 

[vermicel]

I swear you are the most helpful person on this website lol holy good samaritan

I probably just have too much time on my hands

What does step off mean, I'm kinda confused on what to focus here

As pointed out in the post right above mine, the "step-off" is the notch where the bone has been cut, which creates a transition between the mandible and the chin that is not as straight and seamless as before surgery.
If it becomes too noticeable for your taste (after fat loss), you could probably camouflage it with a small amount of fillers (Radiesse and the likes).

While we're at it :

Your chin to philtrum ratio went from 2.0 to 2.44.
While your jaw frontal angle went from ~100° to ~87°.

 

[TransactionalLife2]

I probably just have too much time on my hands


As pointed out in the post right above mine, the "step-off" is the notch where the bone has been cut, which creates a transition between the mandible and the chin that is not as straight and seamless as before surgery.
If it becomes too noticeable for your taste (after fat loss), you could probably camouflage it with a small amount of fillers (Radiesse and the likes).

While we're at it :

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Your chin to phitrum ratio went from 2.0 to 2.44.

Idk if that ratio is good or not, but I'm not really judging anything or taking it as a result, I will wait atleast 2 months post operation, and will update also, then I will judge

 

[vermicel]

Idk if that ratio is good or not

Yes, it's good.
The ideal range is 2.0-2.5. So you were already within that range before surgery, and you've just moved up towards the upper end, which usually translates into a more masculine and dimorphic look.

 

[Nahorscend]

Yes, it's good.
The ideal range is 2.0-2.5. So you were already within that range before surgery, and you've just moved up towards the upper end, which usually translates into a more masculine and dimorphic look.

tbh I think 2.4-2.8 something like that. Also this ratio is tricky because you can have very lacking lower third and chin height but a 2.0 ratio because your philtrum is also short. In that case I think it tends to be better to increase chin height and have a slightly higher than ideal ratio in exchange for not having a weak lower third which is a worse failo.

 

[nishka]

In a more readable before/after format :

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Strong masculine chin. I just hope the step-off won't become an issue after fat loss.

i also got genio and am worried about the stepoff but i was thinking can 0.5 ml of filler fix that thoughts?

 

[TransactionalLife2]

i also got genio and am worried about the stepoff but i was thinking can 0.5 ml of filler fix that thoughts?

I don't really have a step off , it's just a bruise

 

[HumanTitanium]

Mirin the ascension, who was your surgeon?

 

[Doctor Egor]

how similar my face is to your before made my mind up on genio
thank you

 

[TransactionalLife2]

Mirin the ascension, who was your surgeon?

Mario Pagnoni

 

[TransactionalLife2]

Here is also another comparison from
3th angle

 

[TransactionalLife2]

how similar my face is to your before made my mind up on genio
thank you

Keep in mind that was 3 dimensional genioplasty, not just sliding, meaning height , width and projection were altered not only projection

 

[Doctor Egor]

Keep in mind that was 3 dimensional genioplasty, not just sliding, meaning height , width and projection were altered not only projection

how much did pag charge for it?

 

[TransactionalLife2]

how much did pag charge for it?

11k for the genio

 

[Doctor Egor]

11k for the genio

damn

 

[ascendtocl122]

nice brah now it’s time to accutane roid and become chad

 

[TransactionalLife2]

nice brah now it’s time to accutane roid and become chad

Running ghk cu currently, will wait maybe 2-3 months to see if it has any effect on the skin, if not I'm going with accutane

 

[ascendtocl122]

Running ghk cu currently, will wait maybe 2-3 months to see if it has any effect on the skin, if not I'm going with accutane

ghk-cu isn’t going to fix your skin. you need to either be eating properly, using topical retinoids or accutane. ghk is going to be a huge waste of time imo

 

[Be_ConfidentBro]

This is an amazing example of a case where just genio is enough. Now sure you ARE recessed and the "optimal" path would have been bimax BUT if you factor in the cost, the danger, the pain, the life long complications compared to Genio then it's not even worth it in the slightest. You got 70% of the improvement with 5% the risk. Good stuff brother, I am in a similar boat to you and will be getting genio too.

 

[Acquiescence]

Damn very nice result. Basically what I’m looking for too:

This is an amazing example of a case where just genio is enough. Now sure you ARE recessed and the "optimal" path would have been bimax BUT if you factor in the cost, the danger, the pain, the life long complications compared to Genio then it's not even worth it in the slightest. You got 70% of the improvement with 5% the risk. Good stuff brother, I am in a similar boat to you and will be getting genio too.

Wonder if I should consult with Pags for this, already talked to Ram but not sure if his genios are quite as good as this

 

[TransactionalLife2]

This is an amazing example of a case where just genio is enough. Now sure you ARE recessed and the "optimal" path would have been bimax BUT if you factor in the cost, the danger, the pain, the life long complications compared to Genio then it's not even worth it in the slightest. You got 70% of the improvement with 5% the risk. Good stuff brother, I am in a similar boat to you and will be getting genio too.

Yeah others also told me bimax , but the risks outweight the pros

 

[TransactionalLife2]

Damn very nice result. Basically what I’m looking for too:


Wonder if I should consult with Pags for this, already talked to Ram but not sure if his genios are quite as good as this

I have never consulted with ram only pagnoni , honestly trust your instinct , thats what i did with pagnoni , there were alot of botch stories recently by him , but i trusted him with this genio

 

[Acquiescence]

I have never consulted with ram only pagnoni , honestly trust your instinct , thats what i did with pagnoni , there were alot of botch stories recently by him , but i trusted him with this genio

I feel safe w Ram but I don’t know his experience with 3D genio. Have an upcoming consult in June I’ll ask him

 

[Animepilled]

Is that groove on the jawline permanent?

 

[Matthaiass]

W

 

[TransactionalLife2]

Is that groove on the jawline permanent?

No

 

[ltnsdfa]

Dka

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I got back home from Italy yesterday, there is still swelling frontal wise, but in terms of side profile I think that's how it's going to look permanently, maybe the chin will be slightly less taller, overall im very happy with the result and will keep updating and post frontal once the swelling is gone

Damn, amazing results I didn't know u could achieve that from a genio alone

 

[Acquiescence]

I have never consulted with ram only pagnoni , honestly trust your instinct , thats what i did with pagnoni , there were alot of botch stories recently by him , but i trusted him with this genio

Looks like Ram does indeed do this type of genio. Found this on his tiktok:

Hope the result is as good as yours w Pag lul

 

[Finn]

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I got back home from Italy yesterday, there is still swelling frontal wise, but in terms of side profile I think that's how it's going to look permanently, maybe the chin will be slightly less taller, overall im very happy with the result and will keep updating and post frontal once the swelling is gone

looks good. but lose weight also will ascend you hard

 

[Lefor3Laser]

Looks like Ram does indeed do this type of genio. Found this on his tiktok:
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Hope the result is as good as yours w Pag lul

One thing that you should take into consideration is how will that tissue react to the chin widening and the limit of the widening, if you'd look at the edges you'll see that the chin is wider than the lowe body of the jaw by few mm's.

It would need a smooth transition.

 

[TransactionalLife2]

One thing that you should take into consideration is how will that tissue react to the chin widening and the limit of the widening, if you'd look at the edges you'll see that the chin is wider than the lowe body of the jaw by few mm's.

It would need a smooth transition.

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You have to discuss it with Ram, I really don't have good knowledge about this stuff, book also a consultation with Pagnoni is my recommendation, try to get as much info as possible

 

[Acquiescence]

One thing that you should take into consideration is how will that tissue react to the chin widening and the limit of the widening, if you'd look at the edges you'll see that the chin is wider than the lowe body of the jaw by few mm's.

It would need a smooth transition.

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Perhaps a bit of filler might suffice

Probably the best use for it vs trying to recreate what should really be reserved for osteotomies / implants

 

[MouthBreathingElite]

tbh I think 2.4-2.8 something like that.

Anything above 2.5 looks silly

 

[tweaqo]

Looks like Ram does indeed do this type of genio. Found this on his tiktok:
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Hope the result is as good as yours w Pag lul

Lol almost all half decent surgeons can do a 3D genio. But how good they are at it on the other hand is another conversation