10000th hgh thread

[hax]

At 16.5, is it even still worth to get hgh, even if i have pretty average gh levels or am i just throwing money out the window, would i be beter off with test?

Idgaf about acromegaly as long as it's not extreme since i'm mostly targeting my face other than my height.

I see some people praise the effects, even after 18 and i see some ppl say it's worthless after 10.

 

[pubmedwarrior]

acromegaly isnt real
i started at 17 so i think you could

 

[hax]

@idkmanimao ignore the fact that i have 1000+ posts and asking this, but i think you know about this

 

[hax]

acromegaly isnt real
i started at 17 so i think you could

How did it go for you and did you notice any change. Also how old are you now?

 

[pubmedwarrior]

wait i didnt read, why would you do it for other things than your height??

 

[pubmedwarrior]

How did it go for you and did you notice any change. Also how old are you now?

grew 4.5 cm with stretched spine so about 3.5 in "everyday height"
Didnt notice any facial changes and i did high doses.

19 now!

 

[idkmanimao]

@idkmanimao ignore the fact that i have 1000+ posts and asking this, but i think you know about this

Yes, it is

 

[hax]

wait i didnt read, why would you do it for other things than your height??

hgh is just a "growth hormone" so it could potentially grow out my facial bone structure, i've seen multiple ppl prais hgh for a major part of their transformations so if it can make me taller and potentially slightly impact my face, i'm up for it, although i think test would be more beneficial for this (i don't want to stop my natural T production though)

grew 4.5 cm with stretched spine so about 3.5 in "everyday height"
Didnt notice any facial changes and i did high doses.

19 now!

that's insane, i'm thinking about running 7UI a day, what was your dose?

 

[pubmedwarrior]

hgh is just a "growth hormone" so it could potentially grow out my facial bone structure, i've seen multiple ppl prais hgh for a major part of their transformations so if it can make me taller and potentially slightly impact my face, i'm up for it, although i think test would be more beneficial for this (i don't want to stop my natural T production though)

ah yeah i know ive researched a lot of papers. i am very sure that the injected gh is used on height if growth plates not closed. If growth plates is closed, that is where the refered acrognomaly is prominent since acrognomaly is just when the body recieves/have exceesive amounts of gh and then thickens jaw, toes and finger bonestructure.

I guess that you could do hgh even though your growth plates are closed and just hope for your acrognomaly being less prominent and then flag it as "increasing facial structure/features (bone mass)" but if so, i wouldnt do that high doses such as 7 iu.

that's insane, i'm thinking about running 7UI a day, what was your dose?

yeah was late in puberty. 7iu is really expensive and is also very much. I would do 5 iu, as i also did.

 

[pubmedwarrior]

also really relatable on your issue with hopping on test.
i wouldnt do test for the rest of my life either

 

[hax]

I would do 5 iu, as i also did.

If my parents deny me hgh i'll secretly hop on 5mg for sure, if they accept, i'll say that i need 7IU per day, it's all about the money really.

also really relatable on your issue with hopping on test.
i wouldnt do test for the rest of my life either

I'll probably do test when i'm like 18, or even when i'm done with my hgh cycle like mid 17, not too sure though, mayble i'll "accpet myself as i am" by then

 

[pubmedwarrior]

If my parents deny me hgh i'll secretly hop on 5mg for sure, if they accept, i'll say that i need 7IU per day, it's all about the money really.

you got your parents to pay for it? or idk you will buy 5ius yourself but if they accept 7iu??

I'll probably do test when i'm like 18, or even when i'm done with my hgh cycle like mid 17, not too sure though, mayble i'll "accpet myself as i am" by then

nah mate i think the hgh is just the start for you

 

[hax]

you got your parents to pay for it?

i'm getting my parents to pay for it hopefully, but if they deny, i'll do my own thing

 

[pubmedwarrior]

i'm getting my parents to pay for it hopefully, but if they deny, i'll do my own thing

that is very supportive of your parents, hope they have researched it as good parents.
or just trusts you

 

[hax]

that is very supportive of your parents, hope they have researched it as good parents.
or just trusts you

my parents deadass will not let me put anything on me, not even changing shampoo, so getting them to agree pinning is definitely mission impossible. Tbh i js made a full article explaining what it is and how it works (and the fact that denying is unforgivable and shit).

 

[pubmedwarrior]

my parents deadass will not let me put anything on me, not even changing shampoo, so getting them to agree pinning is definitely mission impossible. Tbh i js made a full article explaining what it is and how it works (and the fact that denying is unforgivable and shit).

yeah tbh parent never seem fair even when it seems most reasonable to say yes.
but ig parents morally have to say no to you. i wouldnt even dare to tell my mom what i did

 

[hax]

yeah tbh parent never seem fair even when it seems most reasonable to say yes.
but ig parents morally have to say no to you. i wouldnt even dare to tell my mom what i did

broke and getting rejected everywhere i apply, as soon as i get a job it's begun

 

[pubmedwarrior]

broke and getting rejected everywhere i apply, as soon as i get a job it's begun

you have school? and how old is required to apply for job in your country?

 

[hax]

you have school? and how old is required to apply for job in your country?

I have school every day so i can only work during vacations, most the jobs around me are 18+ so it's over and i registered too late for the other ones that accept 16+. Next vacation i'm most definitely applying early and getting that money.

 

[pubmedwarrior]

I have school every day so i can only work during vacations, most the jobs around me are 18+ so it's over and i registered too late for the other ones that accept 16+. Next vacation i'm most definitely applying early and getting that money.

you dont need a job mate.
just mow your neighbours grass. do like $1 pr m2
you could also wash windows or trash bins.

that will make you far more than your applied job

 

[NoaA99]

ah yeah i know ive researched a lot of papers. i am very sure that the injected gh is used on height if growth plates not closed. If growth plates is closed, that is where the refered acrognomaly is prominent since acrognomaly is just when the body recieves/have exceesive amounts of gh and then thickens jaw, toes and finger bonestructure.

I guess that you could do hgh even though your growth plates are closed and just hope for your acrognomaly being less prominent and then flag it as "increasing facial structure/features (bone mass)" but if so, i wouldnt do that high doses such as 7 iu.


yeah was late in puberty. 7iu is really expensive and is also very much. I would do 5 iu, as i also did.

You won’t come close to acromegalic effects with exogenous HGH. Individuals with acromegaly secrete the equivalent of 50+ IU of GH daily, continuously, and often for years on end, something that's nearly impossible to replicate with injections.

On its own, HGH is almost pointless. It’s best thought of as a powerful enhancer, especially synergistic with compounds like BPC-157 for recovery.
HGH binds to GH receptors, which then stimulate the liver and other tissues to produce IGF-1. However, most of this IGF-1 is systemic, not targeted. You can’t precisely direct it into specific tissues, meaning much of it floats freely through your endocrine system, which over time promotes undesirable effects, such as organ growth or visceral hypertrophy. You definitely want to avoid that.

For muscle growth and regeneration, what you want is localized/paracrine IGF-1, produced within the target tissue itself. This is where insulin and anabolic steroids come into play. They enhance IGF-1 signaling within muscle tissue.

With age, HGH becomes more problematic. Both GH receptor sensitivity and density decline, meaning you get less response per unit of GH, and the side effects can become more pronounced. Your bone structure is mostly fixed after puberty, so you're unlikely to see any major skeletal changes unless using excessively high doses long-term, and only if your genetics support it (which is unlikely if you feel the need to use Gh in the first place).

The most noticeable growth happens in cartilage-rich tissues like the ears and nose, and skin thickness increases massively as well. This leads to a puffy/ bloated appearance over time. If you're not very lean or genetically resilient, the aesthetic downsides outweigh the benefits for sure.

At a certain point, especially as you age, abusing GH is simply not worth it for any aesthetic-related benefits.

 

[Copercel]

At 16.5, is it even still worth to get hgh, even if i have pretty average gh levels or am i just throwing money out the window, would i be beter off with test?

Idgaf about acromegaly as long as it's not extreme since i'm mostly targeting my face other than my height.

I see some people praise the effects, even after 18 and i see some ppl say it's worthless after 10.

No. You will need crazy amounts of it. It’s not even guaranteed to work aswell. You’re wasting your time.

 

[hax]

You won’t come close to acromegalic effects with exogenous HGH. Individuals with acromegaly secrete the equivalent of 50+ IU of GH daily, continuously, and often for years on end, something that's nearly impossible to replicate with injections.

On its own, HGH is almost pointless. It’s best thought of as a powerful enhancer, especially synergistic with compounds like BPC-157 for recovery.
HGH binds to GH receptors, which then stimulate the liver and other tissues to produce IGF-1. However, most of this IGF-1 is systemic, not targeted. You can’t precisely direct it into specific tissues, meaning much of it floats freely through your endocrine system, which over time promotes undesirable effects, such as organ growth or visceral hypertrophy. You definitely want to avoid that.

For muscle growth and regeneration, what you want is localized/paracrine IGF-1, produced within the target tissue itself. This is where insulin and anabolic steroids come into play. They enhance IGF-1 signaling within muscle tissue.

With age, HGH becomes more problematic. Both GH receptor sensitivity and density decline, meaning you get less response per unit of GH, and the side effects can become more pronounced. Your bone structure is mostly fixed after puberty, so you're unlikely to see any major skeletal changes unless using excessively high doses long-term, and only if your genetics support it (which is unlikely if you feel the need to use Gh in the first place).

The most noticeable growth happens in cartilage-rich tissues like the ears and nose, and skin thickness increases massively as well. This leads to a puffy/ bloated appearance over time. If you're not very lean or genetically resilient, the aesthetic downsides outweigh the benefits for sure.

At a certain point, especially as you age, abusing GH is simply not worth it for any aesthetic-related benefits.

Very well explained, is there any other alternatives to get the potential chance of optimizing my skeletal structure as i am still in puberty or is there no such thing.

If really there is nothing to do, i'd rather risk it all and gamble on hgh up until i'm 18, paired with regular blood tests, better than what i have now as i don't count on living long to start with.

 

[NoaA99]

Very well explained, is there any other alternatives to get the potential chance of optimizing my skeletal structure as i am still in puberty or is there no such thing.

If really there is nothing to do, i'd rather risk it all and gamble on hgh up until i'm 18, paired with regular blood tests, better than what i have now as i don't count on living long to start with.

You first need to identify exactly what you want to change about your face. For the jaw for instance, there are many affordable options with a high success rate. Using HGH and other compounds for specific facial changes is a costly gamble with rather unpredictable results, and of course the potential for major side effects, if not done properly.

Injecting IGF-1 directly into target tissues might be promising, but this area requires much more advanced research and experience.

Generally, if you want precise and reliable facial changes, surgery is the best option by far.
It is incredibly rare to experience major skeletal changes after peak development, even if you use several synergistic compounds simultanously.