1200 calories per day is perfectly fine for leanmaxing.

[chadisbeingmade]

Eat 1200 calories (which is legit 4’11 female tier calories) from actual nutrient dense food sources:

• liver
• beef / red meats
• eggs
• butter
• raw cheese
• etc

You are still getting far, far more nutrition than 99% of the population, despite the low calories.

Low calories =/= malnutrition

Malnutrition will happen even with high calories, if your food choices are shit. It’s about nutrients, not calories.

Most normies diet consists of high carb, empty calories:

• cereal / oats (0 nutrients)
• pasta (0 nutrients)
• protein powder (0 nutrients)
• bread (0 nutrients)
• chocolates (0 nutrient)

all of which, are completely nutritionally empty. They consume that daily.

They do consume some nutritious foods, like chicken etc. But remove all the “fluff” and empty calories from their diet, and your basically left with ~1200 calories of foods with actual nutrients (if they hit their daily protein intake, not from protein powder)

They can consume 2500 calories daily, with less, or at most, the same nutrition than 1200 calories of nutrient dense foods.

Example:
Say I added 400g of rice to my 1200 calorie diet. I would be at roughly 1700-1800 which is a generally acceptable amount to cut at. What have you gained? Absolutely fuck all. 0 nutritional benefit, you’ve just decreased your deficit by 500/600 calories for absolutely no gain. Congratulations. That’s a whole entire day of deficit on standard “subtract 500 from your maintenance” diet.

If you eat properly, there isn’t anything wrong nutritionally with 1200 calories (for a short period like a month) if you’re trying to leanmax quickly.

TLDR: 500 calorie deficit my ass. Remove the fluff and empty calories, eat with high nutrient density, get the essential fats and proteins, and leanmax quickly so you can end your misery (of being in a deficit and being fat).

 

[pentamogged9000]

(for a short period like a month)

Main takeaway

 

[chadisbeingmade]

Main takeaway

Yes, i’m not advocating for staying on this forever. You’d go mentally insane, and be hungry asf. But if you got fat to drop, IMO this is the best way to go, as you can still maintain somewhat decent hormones, retain muscle and not be malnourished.

 

[ultimate_edger]

Eat 1200 calories (which is legit 4’11 female tier calories) from actual nutrient dense foods sources:

• liver
• beef / red meats
• eggs
• butter
• raw cheese
• etc

You are still getting far, far more nutrition than 99% of the population, despite the low calories.

Low calories =/= malnutrition

Malnutrition will happen even with high calories, if your food choices are shit. It’s about nutrients, not calories.

Most normies diet consists of high carb, empty calories:

• cereal / oats (0 nutrients)
• pasta (0 nutrients)
• protein powder (0 nutrients)
• bread (0 nutrients)
• chocolates (0 nutrient)

all of which, are completely nutritionally empty. They consume that daily.

They do consume some nutritious foods, like chicken etc. But remove all the “fluff” and empty calories from their diet, and your basically left with ~1200 calories of foods with actual nutrients (if they hit their daily protein intake, not from protein powder)

They can consume 2500 calories daily, with less, or at most, the same nutrition than 1200 calories of nutrient dense foods.

Say I added 400g of rice to my 1200 calorie diet. I would be at roughly 1700-1800 which is a generally acceptable amount to cut at. What have you gained? Absolutely fuck all. 0 nutritional benefit, you’ve just decreased your deficit by 500/600 calories for absolutely no gain.

If you eat properly, there isn’t anything wrong nutritionally with 1200 calories (for a short period like a month) if you’re trying to leanmax quickly.

TLDR: 500 calorie deficit my ass. Remove the fluff and empty calories, eat with high nutrient density, get the essential fats and proteins, and leanmax quickly so you can end your misery (of being in a deficit and being fat).

im 6'3 cutting with 1400 calories and 25k steps, i also aim for a month it goes really well. i would advise eat at least 15-20 grams of fiber to keep yourself full maybe like high fiber fruit bars my favs. dont neglect protein 2 gram per kg to keep building and maintaining muscle with your workouts and keep carbs around 100 gram otherwise you aint gonna make it

 

[ultimate_edger]

also 0.5 to 1 gram fat per kg to not nuke your testosterone levels its really important

 

[chadisbeingmade]

im 6'3 cutting with 1400 calories and 25k steps, i also aim for a month it goes really well. i would advise eat at least 15-20 grams of fiber to keep yourself full maybe like high fiber fruit bars my favs. dont neglect protein 1 gram per kg to keep building and maintaining muscle with your workouts and keep carbs around 100 gram otherwise you aint gonna make it

This is what i’m saying. You’re eating 100g carbs. That’s 400 calories of little nutrients. You’d be better off eating 400 calories of eggs or beef nutritionally.

The fibre is usually from those nutritionally empty calories, and isn’t even needed nutritionally. May help with hunger, but there are other methods for that, so not worth spending the little calories on getting fibre which you can’t even digest.

I agree with protein. Gotta have enough, you don’t want to lose muscle here.

Only plausible reason for having some carbs is pre workout, but even then, no more than 200cals imo. You can always use caffeine if you don’t already to power through.

IMO your better off 1200 cals of nutrient dense foods, and add ontop 200 cals of carb pre workout. Given your decent height, 1400 is acceptable.

 

[gwamG]

Eat 1200 calories (which is legit 4’11 female tier calories) from actual nutrient dense food sources:

• liver
• beef / red meats
• eggs
• butter
• raw cheese
• etc

You are still getting far, far more nutrition than 99% of the population, despite the low calories.

Low calories =/= malnutrition

Malnutrition will happen even with high calories, if your food choices are shit. It’s about nutrients, not calories.

Most normies diet consists of high carb, empty calories:

• cereal / oats (0 nutrients)
• pasta (0 nutrients)
• protein powder (0 nutrients)
• bread (0 nutrients)
• chocolates (0 nutrient)

all of which, are completely nutritionally empty. They consume that daily.

They do consume some nutritious foods, like chicken etc. But remove all the “fluff” and empty calories from their diet, and your basically left with ~1200 calories of foods with actual nutrients (if they hit their daily protein intake, not from protein powder)

They can consume 2500 calories daily, with less, or at most, the same nutrition than 1200 calories of nutrient dense foods.

Example:
Say I added 400g of rice to my 1200 calorie diet. I would be at roughly 1700-1800 which is a generally acceptable amount to cut at. What have you gained? Absolutely fuck all. 0 nutritional benefit, you’ve just decreased your deficit by 500/600 calories for absolutely no gain. Congratulations. That’s a whole entire day of deficit on standard “subtract 500 from your maintenance” diet.

If you eat properly, there isn’t anything wrong nutritionally with 1200 calories (for a short period like a month) if you’re trying to leanmax quickly.

TLDR: 500 calorie deficit my ass. Remove the fluff and empty calories, eat with high nutrient density, get the essential fats and proteins, and leanmax quickly so you can end your misery (of being in a deficit and being fat).

is this not common sense? the definition of malnourishment is being severely deprived from multiple nutrients.

 

[chadisbeingmade]

also 0.5 to 1 gram fat per kg to not nuke your testosterone levels its really important

100%. I didn’t give guidelines on how much protein and fat to eat. But you must hit your protein intake, and the rest should all be fats.

 

[chadisbeingmade]

is this not common sense? the definition of malnourishment is being severely deprived from multiple nutrients.

No. I see people cutting all the time with starchy foods and foods voids of any nutrients at all. I see body builders cutting, and see them eating sandwiches and say “as long as it fits my calories bro!”

 

[gwamG]

Eat 1200 calories (which is legit 4’11 female tier calories) from actual nutrient dense food sources:

• liver
• beef / red meats
• eggs
• butter
• raw cheese
• etc

You are still getting far, far more nutrition than 99% of the population, despite the low calories.

Low calories =/= malnutrition

Malnutrition will happen even with high calories, if your food choices are shit. It’s about nutrients, not calories.

Most normies diet consists of high carb, empty calories:

• cereal / oats (0 nutrients)
• pasta (0 nutrients)
• protein powder (0 nutrients)
• bread (0 nutrients)
• chocolates (0 nutrient)

all of which, are completely nutritionally empty. They consume that daily.

They do consume some nutritious foods, like chicken etc. But remove all the “fluff” and empty calories from their diet, and your basically left with ~1200 calories of foods with actual nutrients (if they hit their daily protein intake, not from protein powder)

They can consume 2500 calories daily, with less, or at most, the same nutrition than 1200 calories of nutrient dense foods.

Example:
Say I added 400g of rice to my 1200 calorie diet. I would be at roughly 1700-1800 which is a generally acceptable amount to cut at. What have you gained? Absolutely fuck all. 0 nutritional benefit, you’ve just decreased your deficit by 500/600 calories for absolutely no gain. Congratulations. That’s a whole entire day of deficit on standard “subtract 500 from your maintenance” diet.

If you eat properly, there isn’t anything wrong nutritionally with 1200 calories (for a short period like a month) if you’re trying to leanmax quickly.

TLDR: 500 calorie deficit my ass. Remove the fluff and empty calories, eat with high nutrient density, get the essential fats and proteins, and leanmax quickly so you can end your misery (of being in a deficit and being fat).

also for a diet this extreme id heavily suggest eating just liver with some oysters alongside as much sunlight as possible. too much vitamin a = low zinc
too much copper = low vitamin D

 

[chadisbeingmade]

also for a diet this extreme id heavily suggest eating just liver with some oysters alongside as much sunlight as possible. too much vitamin a = low zinc
too much copper = low vitamin D

Yes, I buy liver and cut it up into 20g pieces and shove it in the freezer. I eat a chunk a day.

 

[gwamG]

Yes, I buy liver and cut it up into 20g pieces and shove it in the freezer. I eat a chunk a day.

freezing destroys nutrients

tl;dr

When water turns into ice, it expands because of the molecular structure that forms. This destroys the cells. What is meat? Animal cells. The less you destroy the cells in your animal foods, the healthier the food will be.

 

[chadisbeingmade]

freezing destroys nutrients
View attachment 3484446

tl;dr

When water turns into ice, it expands because of the molecular structure that forms. This destroys the cells. What is meat? Animal cells. The less you destroy the cells in your animal foods, the healthier the food will be.

You’re telling me I gotta go buy the liver daily and eat it? Not really a problem, dirt cheap.

 

[gwamG]

Yes, I buy liver and cut it up into 20g pieces and shove it in the freezer. I eat a chunk a day.

even if you didnt freeze the liver, that would still be too little. for 1200kcal a day you need to get the most out of your food, liver and oysters will help. liver already is a fatty food and has all the nutrients needed for hormones and in general for life. oysters will prevent zinc being too low so that u dont tank ur test

 

[gwamG]

You’re telling me I gotta go buy the liver daily and eat it? Not really a problem, dirt cheap.

yeah, just make sure you get some oysters or anything rich in zinc

 

[sirmimbing]

vitamins and minerals isn't everything. there's phytonutrients, fiber etc. also just consuming the right amount of calories means your hormones are balanced and you arent low t etc so there are definitely negatives to eating 1200cals a day. if you do that for a short period of time to lose weight its ofc okay, but not ideal long term.

 

[chadisbeingmade]

vitamins and minerals isn't everything. there's phytonutrients, fiber etc. also just consuming the right amount of calories means your hormones are balanced and you arent low t etc so there are definitely negatives to eating 1200cals a day. if you do that for a short period of time to lose weight its ofc okay, but not ideal long term.

Fibre is not needed at all.

Hormones are balanced due to dietary fat intake, not calories. (I can eat only carbs and protein and 0 fat and have nuked test levels). Although aggressive diet may negative effect them periodically yes, but should be fine for the most part with enough fats.

Yes short term anyway.

 

[sirmimbing]

Fibre is not needed at all.

Hormones are balanced due to dietary fat intake, not calories. (I can eat only carbs and protein and 0 fat and have nuked test levels). Although aggressive diet may negative effect them periodically yes, but should be fine for the most part with enough fats.

Yes short term anyway.

yeah this is just not true.

yes fiber isnt NEEDED. but it most definitely is healthy.
yes fat intake is important for hormone health, but so are calories. its common sense that starving yourself wont make your body produce as much test as possible and give you optimal health. like i said, it's okay short term. but your hormonal health will take a hit at those cals.

 

[chadisbeingmade]

yeah this is just not true.

yes fiber isnt NEEDED. but it most definitely is healthy.

meh idk. i’ve gone without fibre for ages like 6+ months. not a single problem.

 

[sirmimbing]

meh idk. i’ve gone without fibre for ages like 6+ months. not a single problem.

yeah that's possible, but doesn't mean its ideal. i could have alcohol every day for 6 months without noticing any problems, doesn't mean my health couldn't be better without it, or with less.

 

[Cheat_Win]

Eat 1200 calories (which is legit 4’11 female tier calories) from actual nutrient dense food sources:

• liver
• beef / red meats
• eggs
• butter
• raw cheese
• etc

You are still getting far, far more nutrition than 99% of the population, despite the low calories.

Low calories =/= malnutrition

Malnutrition will happen even with high calories, if your food choices are shit. It’s about nutrients, not calories.

Most normies diet consists of high carb, empty calories:

• cereal / oats (0 nutrients)
• pasta (0 nutrients)
• protein powder (0 nutrients)
• bread (0 nutrients)
• chocolates (0 nutrient)

all of which, are completely nutritionally empty. They consume that daily.

They do consume some nutritious foods, like chicken etc. But remove all the “fluff” and empty calories from their diet, and your basically left with ~1200 calories of foods with actual nutrients (if they hit their daily protein intake, not from protein powder)

They can consume 2500 calories daily, with less, or at most, the same nutrition than 1200 calories of nutrient dense foods.

Example:
Say I added 400g of rice to my 1200 calorie diet. I would be at roughly 1700-1800 which is a generally acceptable amount to cut at. What have you gained? Absolutely fuck all. 0 nutritional benefit, you’ve just decreased your deficit by 500/600 calories for absolutely no gain. Congratulations. That’s a whole entire day of deficit on standard “subtract 500 from your maintenance” diet.

If you eat properly, there isn’t anything wrong nutritionally with 1200 calories (for a short period like a month) if you’re trying to leanmax quickly.

TLDR: 500 calorie deficit my ass. Remove the fluff and empty calories, eat with high nutrient density, get the essential fats and proteins, and leanmax quickly so you can end your misery (of being in a deficit and being fat).

Yeah 1200 is sustainable if you are over 20% body fat, when you get close to 12% then you have to lower it at 800 calories for at least a month to get to 10%

 

[narex054]

This is what i’m saying. You’re eating 100g carbs. That’s 400 calories of little nutrients. You’d be better off eating 400 calories of eggs or beef nutritionally.

The fibre is usually from those nutritionally empty calories, and isn’t even needed nutritionally. May help with hunger, but there are other methods for that, so not worth spending the little calories on getting fibre which you can’t even digest.

I agree with protein. Gotta have enough, you don’t want to lose muscle here.

Only plausible reason for having some carbs is pre workout, but even then, no more than 200cals imo. You can always use caffeine if you don’t already to power through.

IMO your better off 1200 cals of nutrient dense foods, and add ontop 200 cals of carb pre workout. Given your decent height, 1400 is acceptable.

Eat 1200 calories (which is legit 4’11 female tier calories) from actual nutrient dense food sources:

• liver
• beef / red meats
• eggs
• butter
• raw cheese
• etc

You are still getting far, far more nutrition than 99% of the population, despite the low calories.

Low calories =/= malnutrition

Malnutrition will happen even with high calories, if your food choices are shit. It’s about nutrients, not calories.

Most normies diet consists of high carb, empty calories:

• cereal / oats (0 nutrients)
• pasta (0 nutrients)
• protein powder (0 nutrients)
• bread (0 nutrients)
• chocolates (0 nutrient)

all of which, are completely nutritionally empty. They consume that daily.

They do consume some nutritious foods, like chicken etc. But remove all the “fluff” and empty calories from their diet, and your basically left with ~1200 calories of foods with actual nutrients (if they hit their daily protein intake, not from protein powder)

They can consume 2500 calories daily, with less, or at most, the same nutrition than 1200 calories of nutrient dense foods.

Example:
Say I added 400g of rice to my 1200 calorie diet. I would be at roughly 1700-1800 which is a generally acceptable amount to cut at. What have you gained? Absolutely fuck all. 0 nutritional benefit, you’ve just decreased your deficit by 500/600 calories for absolutely no gain. Congratulations. That’s a whole entire day of deficit on standard “subtract 500 from your maintenance” diet.

If you eat properly, there isn’t anything wrong nutritionally with 1200 calories (for a short period like a month) if you’re trying to leanmax quickly.

TLDR: 500 calorie deficit my ass. Remove the fluff and empty calories, eat with high nutrient density, get the essential fats and proteins, and leanmax quickly so you can end your misery (of being in a deficit and being fat).

Totally correct but u’ll need around 10-50g max carbs which will be from carrots(alpha/beta carotene),tomatoes(Lycopene),spinach(potassium)and raw milk As a gymcell m cutting now
I’ll give it around 40-60days for full cut
Look how beautiful my cat psps

 

[narex054]

Eat 1200 calories (which is legit 4’11 female tier calories) from actual nutrient dense food sources:

• liver
• beef / red meats
• eggs
• butter
• raw cheese
• etc

You are still getting far, far more nutrition than 99% of the population, despite the low calories.

Low calories =/= malnutrition

Malnutrition will happen even with high calories, if your food choices are shit. It’s about nutrients, not calories.

Most normies diet consists of high carb, empty calories:

• cereal / oats (0 nutrients)
• pasta (0 nutrients)
• protein powder (0 nutrients)
• bread (0 nutrients)
• chocolates (0 nutrient)

all of which, are completely nutritionally empty. They consume that daily.

They do consume some nutritious foods, like chicken etc. But remove all the “fluff” and empty calories from their diet, and your basically left with ~1200 calories of foods with actual nutrients (if they hit their daily protein intake, not from protein powder)

They can consume 2500 calories daily, with less, or at most, the same nutrition than 1200 calories of nutrient dense foods.

Example:
Say I added 400g of rice to my 1200 calorie diet. I would be at roughly 1700-1800 which is a generally acceptable amount to cut at. What have you gained? Absolutely fuck all. 0 nutritional benefit, you’ve just decreased your deficit by 500/600 calories for absolutely no gain. Congratulations. That’s a whole entire day of deficit on standard “subtract 500 from your maintenance” diet.

If you eat properly, there isn’t anything wrong nutritionally with 1200 calories (for a short period like a month) if you’re trying to leanmax quickly.

TLDR: 500 calorie deficit my ass. Remove the fluff and empty calories, eat with high nutrient density, get the essential fats and proteins, and leanmax quickly so you can end your misery (of being in a deficit and being fat).

High iq post as usual

 

[ultimate_edger]

This is what i’m saying. You’re eating 100g carbs. That’s 400 calories of little nutrients. You’d be better off eating 400 calories of eggs or beef nutritionally.

The fibre is usually from those nutritionally empty calories, and isn’t even needed nutritionally. May help with hunger, but there are other methods for that, so not worth spending the little calories on getting fibre which you can’t even digest.

I agree with protein. Gotta have enough, you don’t want to lose muscle here.

Only plausible reason for having some carbs is pre workout, but even then, no more than 200cals imo. You can always use caffeine if you don’t already to power through.

IMO your better off 1200 cals of nutrient dense foods, and add ontop 200 cals of carb pre workout. Given your decent height, 1400 is acceptable.

i get headaches and terrible pumps without carbs also to sustain hard long diets you must give yourself something you enjoy you dont have to be full carnivore to look great

 

[VietBro]

Make an alt account and search "EDTT". Once your on that algorithm you'll realize that all thin hot foids leanmax.

 

[Comebackkid]

Real men only need one meal a day, more than that is homosexuality

 

[chadisbeingmade]

Real men only need one meal a day, more than that is homosexuality

based

 

[AustrianMogger]

Eat 1200 calories (which is legit 4’11 female tier calories) from actual nutrient dense food sources:

• liver
• beef / red meats
• eggs
• butter
• raw cheese
• etc

You are still getting far, far more nutrition than 99% of the population, despite the low calories.

Low calories =/= malnutrition

Malnutrition will happen even with high calories, if your food choices are shit. It’s about nutrients, not calories.

Most normies diet consists of high carb, empty calories:

• cereal / oats (0 nutrients)
• pasta (0 nutrients)
• protein powder (0 nutrients)
• bread (0 nutrients)
• chocolates (0 nutrient)

all of which, are completely nutritionally empty. They consume that daily.

They do consume some nutritious foods, like chicken etc. But remove all the “fluff” and empty calories from their diet, and your basically left with ~1200 calories of foods with actual nutrients (if they hit their daily protein intake, not from protein powder)

They can consume 2500 calories daily, with less, or at most, the same nutrition than 1200 calories of nutrient dense foods.

Example:
Say I added 400g of rice to my 1200 calorie diet. I would be at roughly 1700-1800 which is a generally acceptable amount to cut at. What have you gained? Absolutely fuck all. 0 nutritional benefit, you’ve just decreased your deficit by 500/600 calories for absolutely no gain. Congratulations. That’s a whole entire day of deficit on standard “subtract 500 from your maintenance” diet.

If you eat properly, there isn’t anything wrong nutritionally with 1200 calories (for a short period like a month) if you’re trying to leanmax quickly.

TLDR: 500 calorie deficit my ass. Remove the fluff and empty calories, eat with high nutrient density, get the essential fats and proteins, and leanmax quickly so you can end your misery (of being in a deficit and being fat).

What is bro rambeling. Have you ever heard of vitamins?
Best diet is bryan johnson

 

[chadisbeingmade]

What is bro rambeling. Have you ever heard of vitamins?
Best diet is bryan johnson

retard.

 

[AustrianMogger]

retard.

Explain how just meat is best ?

 

[Ihateskob]

so simply waste the nutrient dense foods on energy because you believe that carbs have no benefits.

 

[chadisbeingmade]

so simply waste the nutrient dense foods on energy because you believe that carbs have no benefits.

carbs have 0 benefit apart from quick energy.

 

[Ihateskob]

carbs have 0 benefit apart from quick energy.

glycogen storage is cool especially when you super active, also why 1.2k calls isnt that starving at that point?

 

[Stallone]

I personally wouldn’t drop my calories that low, but I came to the same conclusion: most foods that the average person consumes, like grains and similar fillers, offer virtually zero meaningful nutrition and can even impair the absorption of essential nutrients.

I prioritize moderate protein, high fat, and low carb (it’s summer here, so I include some berries). My staples are ruminant meat, bone marrow, liver, beef heart, oysters, sardines, and tallow. Eating this way, I train effortlessly, stay high-energy, and remain shredded.

Honestly, the average person (sedentary as hell) doesn’t even need the absurd amount of carbohydrates pushed by modern diets. It’s hilarious how, at family gatherings, people look at me like I’m the weird one just because I don’t add mountains of rice or pasta to my plate.

 

[Stallone]

Eating dinner rn, may look like shit, but tasty and nutritive.

 

[chadisbeingmade]

View attachment 3519757

Eating dinner rn, may look like shit, but tasty and nutritive.

Mirin.

You tryna get lean currently?

I’m currently doing one big meal a day full of meat after gym. I prefer it to many small meals

 

[Stallone]

Mirin.

You tryna get lean currently?

I’m currently doing one big meal a day full of meat after gym. I prefer it to many small meals

Yeah, I’m currently sitting at around 12% body fat. I took a break from training for a while, so I’m working my way back down to 10%.

Respect to the OMAD approach. I’ve experimented with larger meals, but I tend to feel sluggish afterward, despite the high fat content. I suspect my body is somewhat sensitive to excessive protein intake in a single sitting. Do you experience anything similar? For how long have you been doing OMAD?

 

[chadisbeingmade]

Yeah, I’m currently sitting at around 12% body fat. I took a break from training for a while, so I’m working my way back down to 10%.

Respect to the OMAD approach. I’ve experimented with larger meals, but I tend to feel sluggish afterward, despite the high fat content. I suspect my body is somewhat sensitive to excessive protein intake in a single sitting. Do you experience anything similar? For how long have you been doing OMAD?

Mirin, what’s your approach (calorie intake, step goals, cardio etc)?

After eating the meal, maybe I do feel more tired, maybe because more energy is being used to digest such a high protein meal (protein requires more energy to digest, higher thermic effect). I don’t see this as much of a problem tho, actually a benefit in my case since I get my steps in during the day, and go gym closer to the night. Then my meal is closer to bed time, so the sluggish feeling kinda helps me sleep. But during the day I have great energy tbh, i think it may be better than when i eat in the morning or have lunch.

It can be hard for some to get all their calories in the one meal also, but since leanmax it’s not a problem, and eating enough protein and fat does keep me satiated for the most part for 24hr. If i get slight hunger, drinking water usually solves it till meal time.

 

[lonelycurry]

View attachment 3519757

Eating dinner rn, may look like shit, but tasty and nutritive.

what is that

 

[Neucher]

1k is even better but you'll feel like shit without insulin

 

[chadisbeingmade]

what is that

I’ve been looking at the photo for 10 minutes trying to find out.

 

[chadisbeingmade]

1k is even better but you'll feel like shit without insulin

1k calories also works. 1200 calories allows me to get all my protein and a good amount of fat. At 1k calories, you have to sacrifice some fat intake, which is needed for hormones.

I’ve done keto for a while, then carnivore for 6 months. After you are fat adapted, you absolutely do not feel shit without insulin spike from carbs. It’s only shit in the beginning because everyone is carb addicted. Protein also increases insulin. Probaby best i’ve felt tbh.

 

[Stallone]

Mirin, what’s your approach (calorie intake, step goals, cardio etc)?

After eating the meal, maybe I do feel more tired, maybe because more energy is being used to digest such a high protein meal (protein requires more energy to digest, higher thermic effect). I don’t see this as much of a problem tho, actually a benefit in my case since I get my steps in during the day, and go gym closer to the night. Then my meal is closer to bed time, so the sluggish feeling kinda helps me sleep. But during the day I have great energy tbh, i think it may be better than when i eat in the morning or have lunch.

It can be hard for some to get all their calories in the one meal also, but since leanmax it’s not a problem, and eating enough protein and fat does keep me satiated for the most part for 24hr. If i get slight hunger, drinking water usually solves it till meal time.

I’m currently eating around 1,800 kcal a day. I could easily go lower, given how satiating this way of eating is, but since I recently got back into heavy training, I’m sticking to this level to make the most of muscle memory and maximize hypertrophy.

My training routine is a structured Upper-Lower split, four times a week, with 12-3-30 incline walks after each session. I also average 10,000–12,000 steps daily, often going on longer, relaxed walks either while hanging out with friends or just vibing to music by myself. It’s great for staying active and does wonders for mental clarity.

I totally get the satiation part. Back when I ate high-carb, I’d deal with energy crashes and irritability unless I was eating every few hours. Now, my energy stays steady, and my mind stays sharp. For me, fat is king.

 

[Stallone]

what is that

Beef liver, Sardines, Raw Bone Marrow and Tallow.

 

[chadisbeingmade]

Beef liver, Sardines, Raw Bone Marrow and Tallow.

Did you cook the beef liver?

 

[Stallone]

Did you cook the beef liver?

Yes, I just sear it quickly on the outside. To be honest, I don’t worry about nutrient loss. You eat it raw?

 

[chadisbeingmade]

I’m currently eating around 1,800 kcal a day. I could easily go lower, given how satiating this way of eating is, but since I recently got back into heavy training, I’m sticking to this level to make the most of muscle memory and maximize hypertrophy.

My training routine is a structured Upper-Lower split, four times a week, with 12-3-30 incline walks after each session. I also average 10,000–12,000 steps daily, often going on longer, relaxed walks either while hanging out with friends or just vibing to music by myself. It’s great for staying active and does wonders for mental clarity.

I totally get the satiation part. Back when I ate high-carb, I’d deal with energy crashes and irritability unless I was eating every few hours. Now, my energy stays steady, and my mind stays sharp. For me, fat is king.

Mirin, that is honestly a good number to cut at. When I start to lose strength I will probably try increasing my calories slightly, but I hate leanmax and calorie restriction which is why I try leanmax as fast as I can, so I can then enter maintenance or slight surplus faze faster. I think it’s better to get lean quick so you can be in an anabolic state for longer, than a prolonged catabolic state.

Nice on the walks. I do the same, best form of activity imo, doesn’t increase hunger and relaxing and allows you to think. I don’t really do cardio, only weight lifting to preserve muscle mass, but maybe should do 15-20 mins after a session to get leanmax over with just that much faster

100% agree. high fat mogs. Stable energy as you said, and a lot of other benefits like improving insulin sensitivity, more satiated etc. The most nutritious forms of food are high protein and fat for a reason. Most vitamins and minerals are fat soluble anyway.

 

[chadisbeingmade]

Yes, I just sear it quickly on the outside. To be honest, I don’t worry about nutrient loss. You eat it raw?

I usually buy it once a week and consume a good amount of it raw. I don’t like the taste tbh so i just chug it down with water. I’m not doing it for taste anyway.

 

[Survivor]

Eat 1200 calories (which is legit 4’11 female tier calories) from actual nutrient dense food sources:

• liver
• beef / red meats
• eggs
• butter
• raw cheese
• etc

You are still getting far, far more nutrition than 99% of the population, despite the low calories.

Low calories =/= malnutrition

Malnutrition will happen even with high calories, if your food choices are shit. It’s about nutrients, not calories.

Most normies diet consists of high carb, empty calories:

• cereal / oats (0 nutrients)
• pasta (0 nutrients)
• protein powder (0 nutrients)
• bread (0 nutrients)
• chocolates (0 nutrient)

all of which, are completely nutritionally empty. They consume that daily.

They do consume some nutritious foods, like chicken etc. But remove all the “fluff” and empty calories from their diet, and your basically left with ~1200 calories of foods with actual nutrients (if they hit their daily protein intake, not from protein powder)

They can consume 2500 calories daily, with less, or at most, the same nutrition than 1200 calories of nutrient dense foods.

Example:
Say I added 400g of rice to my 1200 calorie diet. I would be at roughly 1700-1800 which is a generally acceptable amount to cut at. What have you gained? Absolutely fuck all. 0 nutritional benefit, you’ve just decreased your deficit by 500/600 calories for absolutely no gain. Congratulations. That’s a whole entire day of deficit on standard “subtract 500 from your maintenance” diet.

If you eat properly, there isn’t anything wrong nutritionally with 1200 calories (for a short period like a month) if you’re trying to leanmax quickly.

TLDR: 500 calorie deficit my ass. Remove the fluff and empty calories, eat with high nutrient density, get the essential fats and proteins, and leanmax quickly so you can end your misery (of being in a deficit and being fat).

It's a a perfect way to kill your thyroids and metabolism. Guys at Minnesota Starvation Experiment ate 1500 calories

 

[stufftodo]

take care of yourself bro