13-14 YO ascension from AAS and 🔨 ^^

[proxxyy11]

I have the longest ancillary list known to man

that's good, nvm then

 

[nathan V]

LTN
To
MTN.

 

[Kojo]

My jaw structure didn't change at all

I have 2 monitors and I am comparing the pictures side by side as we speak. Your chin is the same width, your jaw caves inwards on the mandibular body because of a loss of fat (water)

The protruding gonion fraud is just masseters obviously, your jaw did not get wider it is literally the same width

it also isn't at the same angle to examine the chin length difference. A big part of masculinisation isn't actually the bone growth it's the fat pad shifting due to androgens. Baby fat drops and your cheeks get hollow and so does your mandible body.

one thing I can say is the brow ridge grew which is water and one of the most sensitive regions to androgens in puberty. Everything else, genes.

 

[proxxyy11]

Anyone can as long as you have enough Money + open growth plates

nope, had hgh and AIs since i was 14 (with open plates untill 18), stuck at 5'7 JFL

ropefuel

 

[CalebIQ]

LTN
To
MTN.

Improvement is improvement what can I say. Given I'm early 14 sounds pretty good to me.

 

[Kojo]

ye true but i don’t want to feel like dogshit plus im nuking my era enough and obliterating my e2 with letrozole and tamoxifen to the point that 70 test won’t really matter

tamoxifen induces apoptosis btw

also how are you nuking era

both era and erb lead to fusion so i'm not sure what your point here is

 

[nathan V]

100% buddy this is laughable

Pick better lighting

 

[proxxyy11]

LTN
To
MTN.

u can sense when niggas are jealous, it's kinda sad

makes you a low quality human

he objectively looks good and ascended pretty hard + insane height for his age.

won't be surprised if he's cl when he's done with puberty

 

[CalebIQ]

I have 2 monitors and I am comparing the pictures side by side as we speak. Your chin is the same width, your jaw caves inwards on the mandibular body because of a loss of fat (water)

The protruding gonion fraud is just masseters obviously, your jaw did not get wider it is literally the same width

it also isn't at the same angle to examine the chin length difference. A big part of masculinisation isn't actually the bone growth it's the fat pad shifting due to androgens. Baby fat drops and your cheeks get hollow and so does your mandible body.

one thing I can say is the brow ridge grew which is water and one of the most sensitive regions to androgens in puberty. Everything else, genes.

Thanks for the good insight. To me change is change man. And I'm treated a lot better irl whether it's true andogenicity or not. I think everyone can I agree I look miles better now than before eh?

 

[CalebIQ]

Anyone want a side transformation results? Height is 5'7-6'2 btw (puberty included within this transformation)

 

[Kojo]

Thanks for the good insight. To me change is change man. And I'm treated a lot better irl whether it's true andogenicity or not. I think everyone can I agree I look miles better now than before eh?

You do look much better, 50x better

And I'm not saying you can't attribute it to roids either, I just hate when people say "roids grew muh bones" then sell that premise off to other idiots that think if they hop on in puberty or even post puberty they'll become some terrachad cuz of roids

You look good tho

 

[nathan V]

u can sense when niggas are jealous, it's kinda sad

makes you a low quality human

he objectively looks good and ascended pretty hard + insane height for his age.

won't be surprised if he's cl when he's done with puberty

How am i jealous? Stupid comment. Ill expect better from you.

Im giving a realistic unbiased rating
, hes not above HTN. You just have a personal preference.

 

[Kojo]

Anyone want a side transformation results? Height is 5'7-6'2 btw (puberty included within this transformation)

I want to see that for sure, drop it rn

Seeing people grow fascinates me

 

[proxxyy11]

How am i jealous? Stupid comment. Ill expect better from you.

Im giving a realistic unbiased rating
, hes not above HTN. You just have a personal preference.

didn't say he's above htn, and frankly i'd say i kind of agree with your rating, though i'd put him more towards hmtn

but your reply seems a bit hateful for no reason. he definitely ascended from before

 

[CalebIQ]

You do look much better, 50x better

And I'm not saying you can't attribute it to roids either, I just hate when people say "roids grew muh bones" then sell that premise off to other idiots that think if they hop on in puberty or even post puberty they'll become some terrachad cuz of roids

You look good tho

I agree. Bone structure does not change much no matter what you do. And masculinization does NOT = bone remodeling, it's very diverse. I notice lots of hair growth everywhere. I'm close to 22 inch bidelt easily. And I have a 7 incher

 

[CalebIQ]

I want to see that for sure, drop it rn

Seeing people grow fascinates me

Sorry for the decline being not full side but I think y get the point lol

 

[nathan V]

didn't say he's above htn, and frankly i'd say i kind of agree with your rating, though i'd put him more towards hmtn

but your reply seems a bit hateful for no reason. he definitely ascended from before

Fair.
I never intended it to be hateful, im just straight up, i get why some people can mistake it for rudeness.

 

[proxxyy11]

Fair.
I never intended it to be hateful, im just straight up, i get why some people can mistake it for rudeness.

ok then nvm, now that i'm kinda reseeing it he was definitely sub 5, not just ltn

 

[CalebIQ]

Fair.
I never intended it to be hateful, im just straight up, i get why some people can mistake it for rudeness.

Nobody hates eachother on this forum all they want is honesty and improvement for other like minded people. And you noticed my improvement, and I appreciate that

 

[CalebIQ]

ok then nvm, now that i'm kinda reseeing it he was definitely sub 5, not just ltn

Sub 5 is anything below mtn, just helping out

 

[CalebIQ]

Sub 5 is anything below mtn, just helping out

Unlike what people think

 

[proxxyy11]

Sub 5 is anything below mtn, just helping out

no, a true 5 is around 3 psl. sub 5 is its own rank before subhuman (at 3) and is roughly lltn

 

[Kojo]

Sorry for the decline being not full side but I think y get the point lol

Jeez

 

[CalebIQ]

no, a true 5 is around 3 psl. sub 5 is its own rank before subhuman (at 3) and is roughly lltn

Jeez

We mirin?

 

[ts brutal]

Answering any questions

post ur equipment for the stack

 

[CalebIQ]

post ur equipment for the stack

I'm off now

 

[CalebIQ]

React to some of my new posts boys

 

[norwoodingmanlet]

Different angle different lighting, jaw structure did not change at all you just had an androgenic induced fat pad shift in the cheeks

Whole different hairstyle, squinting with slight cheeksucking

Also grew out lashes, not listening to your advice

You're a retarded ass nigga who always tries to discredit people because he himself is lack luster.

Lol, it's angle, bro! Vertical chin width per angle is extremely hard to fraud even with a jut because it fucks your lip shape up as we can see his lip shape is normal point 1 discarded you try and used with your retarded self per usual to discredit people

his fucking chin got more than 0.5 inches of length; that's not possible even with a jut with normal lips in the video/photo

 

[norwoodingmanlet]

Answering any questions

sub human to milf slayer before 16.

now combine it with surgery and turn into a mutant

 

[norwoodingmanlet]

@norwoodingmanlet

plates closed but the foids holes open

 

[norwoodingmanlet]

Someone with half a brain

aye retard which is it? puberty or frauding?

his bottom lip in in the first photo was fucking pertruding foward jutting would make it look worse

 

[Kojo]

You're a retarded ass nigga who always tries to discredit people because he himself is lack luster.

Lol, it's angle, bro! Vertical chin width per angle is extremely hard to fraud even with a jut because it fucks your lip shape up as we can see his lip shape is normal point 1 discarded you try and used with your retarded self per usual to discredit people

his fucking chin got more than 0.5 inches of length; that's not possible even with a jut with normal lips in the video/photo

I shit on you in a debate already lol kill yourself also the chin width is the same, length looks slightly different but this angle also perpetuates that

Also you retard, simple perspective. a high camera will not produce a tall chin visual. Whereas a lower one will. Don't be retarded

 

[Kojo]

aye retard which is it? puberty or frauding?