(16, 6,4) Test update and cycle ideas

[jw.qsg]

Very much liking test, really starting to see results now, dose is at 315mg (45mg/day) pinning with 29g 12.7mm insulin syringes as they're convenient and im not using loads of oil per pin.

Gym and gains and nice, acne is pretty brutal but bloat isn't terrible. Strength is increasing, alongside muscle mass ofc. Hair is thinning and shedding slightly but nothing terrible.

Diet and sleep have been good, over the past few days weather in the UK has been disgustingly hot, sweating like a pig and having to have multiple shirts in my bag.

Now my body is used to exogynous testosterone fully my clarity is much better and im not trying to fuck everything that moves.

Plans for future:
On Tuesday (Sunday today) I have Masteron, more Test, more Anavar and a few other bits arriving. My plan is to run this cycle for 12 weeks:
Test E-420mg (60mg/day)
Mast P-210mg (30mg/day)
Anavar-40mg/ day weeks 4-8 (I have a festival lol)
Eplerenone-50mg/day
Telimisartan-40mg/day
Tretinoin-0.025%
Doxycycline-100mg/day
Minoxidil-5%
RU58841
Lasix/Furosemide-when needed
Arimidex-0.25mg-when needed
I also have health support sups in place and a few others: berberine etc but cba to type them out, they're just ur basic fish oils etc.

I'm also thinking about clenbuterol at 40mcg/day when I use anavar, any thoughts?
Anyway thanks for reading, I'm open to recommendations or suggestions also, thanks again.
Here are some progress pics (6,4 , 93kg (205lb approx)

 

[NordicLeonhard]

lol how long have you run it, already getting acne on this dose is not a good sign especially if its first weeks

 

[jw.qsg]

lol how long have you run it, already getting acne on this dose is not a good sign especially if its first weeks

I've been on test for around 12 weeks, was fine at 210mg, acne on my back and delts at 315mg, just hormonal imbalance and stuff im guessing, not loads I can do about it

 

[DKISGREY]

Dump var will add to acne etc as its a sht deriv anyway just tanks lipids for super minimal gain the mast will dry you out anyway

 

[0ften]

how long were you doing natural lifting before you decided to pin test?
i want to make the jump but i don't know when to make the jump

 

[jw.qsg]

Dump var will add to acne etc as its a sht deriv anyway just tanks lipids for super minimal gain the mast will dry you out anyway

Alright will do, any alternative to var? More mast? Win?

 

[jw.qsg]

how long were you doing natural lifting before you decided to pin test?
i want to make the jump but i don't know when to make the jump

I was lifting natty for 2.5 years but wasn't really locked in so saw minimal results, being tall didn't help either, I'd highly recommend test to anyone though

 

[NordicLeonhard]

how long were you doing natural lifting before you decided to pin test?
i want to make the jump but i don't know when to make the jump

as soon as you know you will go to the gym regurarly and have all the knowledge, no reason to delay it if you truly know you want to hop on

 

[DKISGREY]

More mast is prolly the method i dont fully suggest any cycle unless ur a client of mine tbh but i would avoid orals goal dependant

 

[jw.qsg]

More mast is prolly the method i dont fully suggest any cycle unless ur a client of mine tbh but i would avoid orals goal dependant

Okay thankyou, appreciate it

 

[0ften]

I was lifting natty for 2.5 years but wasn't really locked in so saw minimal results, being tall didn't help either, I'd highly recommend test to anyone though

as soon as you know you will go to the gym regurarly and have all the knowledge, no reason to delay it if you truly know you want to hop on

People around me and even AI keeps telling me that I should consider taking test in my 30s because your natural test production peaks in your 20s so that's why I have been a bit hesitant to hop on test.

Also the fact that I already have gynocomastia and am genetically susceptible to having horrible cystic acne makes it even harder for me to make the jump

Would really like to get y'alls thoughts on this

 

[jw.qsg]

People around me and even AI keeps telling me that I should consider taking test in my 30s because your natural test production peaks in your 20s so that's why I have been a bit hesitant to hop on test.

Also the fact that I already have gynocomastia and am genetically susceptible to having horrible cystic acne makes it even harder for me to make the jump

Would really like to get y'alls thoughts on this

Gyno and acne can be mitigated. For gyno u can use tamoxifen (nolvadex) and for acne u can use accutane (Isotretinoin) if you can tolerate it. It depends on your goals, get ur bloods done and if ur test is horrifically low then go to a trt clinic and they can prescribe you stuff and help manage stuff like acne, gyno etc

 

[0ften]

Gyno and acne can be mitigated. For gyno u can use tamoxifen (nolvadex) and for acne u can use accutane (Isotretinoin) if you can tolerate it. It depends on your goals, get ur bloods done and if ur test is horrifically low then go to a trt clinic and they can prescribe you stuff and help manage stuff like acne, gyno etc

Yeah I have been on isotretinoin before and about tamoxifen, I've heard that it for people who are running test and do not want to get gynocomastia by any chance but in my case I already have gyno for years now.

What made you choose the 315mg (45mg/day)? Curious to know

 

[jw.qsg]

Yeah I have been on isotretinoin before and about tamoxifen, I've heard that it for people who are running test and do not want to get gynocomastia by any chance but in my case I already have gyno for years now.

What made you choose the 315mg (45mg/day)? Curious to know

Tamoxifen has a few studies seeing that it has mildly shrunk or reduced gyno if caught early, I don't know about long term. Also getting to a low bodyfat will help. 45mg a day is convenient for me and around the dose I wanted to use. My test is 300mg/ml and I use insulin syringes so 45mg is 15 units, easier to measure than like 13.8 or something. I pin daily to keep my hormones more stable, prevents spiking estrogen and DHT, these are what give u sides, not really the test itself

 

[0ften]

Tamoxifen has a few studies seeing that it has mildly shrunk or reduced gyno if caught early, I don't know about long term. Also getting to a low bodyfat will help. 45mg a day is convenient for me and around the dose I wanted to use. My test is 300mg/ml and I use insulin syringes so 45mg is 15 units, easier to measure than like 13.8 or something. I pin daily to keep my hormones more stable, prevents spiking estrogen and DHT, these are what give u sides, not really the test itself

thanks for the help bud, cant wait to pin and look big and vascular

 

[jw.qsg]

thanks for the help bud, cant wait to pin and look big and vascular

Haha no worries, won't come without hard work though brother. Keep at it, not a miracle pill, more of a tool it's like enchanting a sword in Minecraft ( that sword being you), best of luck!