16, is it over or is there hope?

Not over
 
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first tried at like 12/13 and worked
ok so you are in late puberty if not done. with the time you have left to make the most of testosterone here are things to do:

-be competitive (chess, school, combat sport), it raises test substantially more than anything else besides just injecting test. if you can do hard cardio while being competitive it’s the best, like wrestling. wrestling is incredible for testosterone and almost every time wrestling season comes around i’ve grown and inch or two and come out looking older.

-don’t do things that minimize test, such as taking DHT blockers (minoxidil, finasterife), save that for post puberty.

-DHT maxxing: look at the DHTmaxxing thread on best of the best, it will extend your puberty.
 
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he says hes barely started puberty, if he testmaxxes it’s possible, crazier things have happened
Unfortunately that’s not how it’s working, you can’t reach clearly see what’s going on by just looking on side
 
i just think the rating system in itself is inconsistent, it makes no sense to not be htn when looking better than the average person🤷🏼‍♂️ which many people on here do and yet they are still called mmtn etc
hltn-lmtn- avg
mtn - above
htn- gl zone, 5%
 
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ok so you are in late puberty if not done. with the time you have left to make the most of testosterone here are things to do:

-be competitive (chess, school, combat sport), it raises test substantially more than anything else besides just injecting test. if you can do hard cardio while being competitive it’s the best, like wrestling. wrestling is incredible for testosterone and almost every time wrestling season comes around i’ve grown and inch or two and come out looking older.

-don’t do things that minimize test, such as taking DHT blockers (minoxidil, finasterife), save that for post puberty.

-DHT maxxing: look at the DHTmaxxing thread on best of the best, it will extend your puberty.
will do
 
disagree , its average

hes 16, i dont think puberty will be saving him that much. no hate to the guy but he has crooked nose and no browridge to cover it up. plus most people with a lip area like this it wont just suddenly ''fix itself'' lol

no, htn is 1 in 20 people. I see this dude 1/2
i’d put my life on this guys eye area being above average. his side profiles bad but according to
him he has a slight overbite which could be fixed by moving his teeth down and therefore extending his chin, and defining his jawline is possible. perhaps he can’t grow his maxilla anymore, but a rhino could do wonders.
 
i’d put my life on this guys eye area being above average. his side profiles bad but according to
him he has a slight overbite which could be fixed by moving his teeth down and therefore extending his chin, and defining his jawline is possible. perhaps he can’t grow his maxilla anymore, but a rhino could do wonders.
so i‘ve been looking at all the posts and no one seems to be mentioning that i‘m bloated like a mf, will probably not ascend me huh?
 
so i‘ve been looking at all the posts and no one seems to be mentioning that i‘m bloated like a mf, will probably not ascend me huh?
debloating would no doubt help but it won’t ascend you. you need to work out your lips and maxilla area. I did over the course of a year or two. let me dm you something about your overbite
 
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turning seventeen in two months, please be srs
U look very young like 13
But u look tall id recommend that you start trt
 
debloating would no doubt help but it won’t ascend you. you need to work out your lips and maxilla area. I did over the course of a year or two. let me dm you something about your overbite
sure
 
U look very young like 13
But u look tall id recommend that you start trt
he’s 5’8, and i don’t recommend this dude hops on test I think he should naturally improve it first with diet and excercise
 
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U look very young like 13
But u look tall id recommend that you start trt
i blame it on only being breastfed for 8 weeks and nope i‘m 5‘8😂
 
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MTN but probably higher considering this is a selfie
 
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You are recessed though so probably just MTN
 
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you mean nose, maxilla and jaw?
 
You have an overbite I'm assuming?
 
slightly yea, i dunno i‘d say like 7mm
 
slightly yea, i dunno i‘d say like 7mm
It's possible you can get BSSO covered by insurance then.

I don't think Bimax is necessary, your maxilla already looks forward enough. But your mandible is clearly recessed.
 
I wouldn't consider a Genioplasty at all btw, your chin is forwardly projected, it's purely your Mandible that is the problem.
 
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It's possible you can get BSSO covered by insurance then.

I don't think Bimax is necessary, your maxilla already looks forward enough. But your mandible is clearly recessed.
are there any risks for bsso?
 
are there any risks for bsso?
Very little, it's a common procedure that's been practiced for decades to correct overbites. You'll be under anesthesia as the surgery is done
 
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I'm fairly confident if you go to an orthodontist they will suggest the same procedure
 
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over tier side profile
 
try statusmaxxing, otherwise your not geting laided bud
 
he’s 5’8, and i don’t recommend this dude hops on test I think he should naturally improve it first with diet and excercise
Well ur opinion doesn’t really matter
 
''htn'' they're giving that to anybody nowadays. softmaxxed this dude's low mtn-mtn maybe higher when he's fully developed
He could be HTN, look at his bone structure, eye color, etc?
 

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