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Yes I’m a grey
I know I’m a grey but it’s not like I’m new, I’ve done my research and I know the risks and I’m willing to do whatever I can to ascend or even increase my appeal.
Unimportant context:
I’ve been heavily bi polar with my decisions and haven’t officially committed to anything due to mixed opinions on lots of these threads on here, I’ve had a girlfriend for three years and she really doesn’t want me to hop on anything for my health and because she claims to like me how I am and things everyone I look up to looks constipated and ugly, I’ve always hated how I’ve looked and been treated poorly for being an immigrant and for being weird as a kid, it’s ended up in me being casted out during elementary and middle school, people would come up to me and hug me or talk to me as a joke and I resented them for it. I’ve always been on the shorter side and average in everything I do.

Personal details

I’m sitting at 5’7 and 116 pounds, I’m somewhat skinny fat and have been cutting for a long time because I’m obsessed with having a really low body fat. I’ve decided I wanted to hop on roids but I want to avoid the bloat. I also want to get taller before my growth plates close. I’ve been debating on starting a cycle of
Potential cycle

I’m planning on getting my peptides and test off a website called Iron Lion and my Aromasin off DiRxHealth.com can anyone vouch for credibility? I also have Zen peptide on telegram as a backup

HGH - 3iu loading phase, 6iu growth.
-> 1-3 weeks loading
-> everything else is growth from there

Testosterone propionate base (daily pin) 250mg a week so 36mg a day.

Aromasin (Exemestane) 12.5 mg
-> get blood test, look at E2 levels
-> start HGH and Test, wait a week and then take another test, if E2 levels are 20 or below don’t do anything
-> if E2 is 20-40 take 6.25mg of Aromasin; if > 40 start with 6.25, then after 7 days increase dose up to 12.5mg

And yes I’ll take Aromasin from 12-2 in the day after or during a meal.

I’ve already been on dermatologist prescribed Accutane, about to finish my first prescription of 80mg a day

My safety plan was put together off another thread I read off here but I’m basically going to be monitoring my blood sugar and pressure in the morning as a precaution, for hair health I’m going to add dutasteride and minoxidil. I’m already thinning along my sides and corners of my hairline so it was abt time anyway.

Parents
as for my parents, I already had a talk with them and they’d much rather prefer if I kept them in the loop then if I just did this in secret so they’re OK with me taking all of this stuff as long as I’m getting regular check ups with my blood and watching all my health markers. i’m going to go get my x-ray soon to see if my growth plates have closed or not so I know whether it’s even worth it to take HG in the first place to try and squeeze some growth out of my genetics before it’s a little too late.

Reason for post
However, my reason for making this post is that I haven’t been able to find many threads about people, my age trying to grow taller or with any use of HGH at all all I see are a bunch of greys trying to ask questions about it and everybody there that is responding to the thread is just more grades that are just telling them not to take it and that it’s bad for you which is obvious, but I’m willing to go with the risks if it means that I can get the benefits and if I can get actual results from taking it

Reason for post follow up
There’s a lot of misinformation on.org and there’s many threads that contradict each other and some people are saying that you should take it with this so that you should take it with that or that you shouldn’t take it or that there’s other ways that there’s no other ways so I’m just making this post because I’m confused as everybody seems to be contradicting each other and you post keep popping up every day and people are agreeing or disagree with each other and it’s just a lot for me to take in because I don’t really understand whether it’s good or it’s not for the results I want bone growth because I have recessed in for orbitals and my maxilla seems to be kind of recessed. I have an overbite, and I had Invisalign for about three years, cause I was in consistent with it, and I kind of have a really narrow palette on my upper and lower parts of my mouth so I’m thinking about getting Mark or some other type of pallet expander so I can fix that and my parents also seem to be on board with that for next year so my pallet really is in an issue. I just want more forward growth for my eyes because I think eye area is pretty important and if I can fix my eye area and my height then I’d be pretty happy because those are things that you can’t really fix post puberty while a steroid cycle like I was planning on taking is something that I can do before puberty post puberty and so on

Pictures:
I’m going to drop some pictures of my physique now and what I look now without a new fraud and then kind of what I look like in a public setting. I’m not looking for anybody to dis on my looks. That’s the whole point on why I’m making this thread in the first place and why I’m on here I just need genuine advice on whether or not I should start the cycle or whether anything is wrong with my cycle cause I obviously don’t want my balls to atrophy and to be a small bald loser for the rest of my life.

Yes I know I have a recessed chin, yes I have a big nose, yes I have no maxilla, yes I have a huge forehead, yes my eye area is terrible. I’m trying to fix it so I don’t want to hear it unless it’s addressing it with criticism. Also for context the one picture where I’m in the car is from my first time bonesmashing which my girlfriend made me promise I wouldn’t do again. I understand that I already have someone I can be with for a long time and maybe eventually marry but I want to be able to love myself, is that selfish even if it’s at her expense?

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Yes I’m a grey
I know I’m a grey but it’s not like I’m new, I’ve done my research and I know the risks and I’m willing to do whatever I can to ascend or even increase my appeal.
Unimportant context:
I’ve been heavily bi polar with my decisions and haven’t officially committed to anything due to mixed opinions on lots of these threads on here, I’ve had a girlfriend for three years and she really doesn’t want me to hop on anything for my health and because she claims to like me how I am and things everyone I look up to looks constipated and ugly, I’ve always hated how I’ve looked and been treated poorly for being an immigrant and for being weird as a kid, it’s ended up in me being casted out during elementary and middle school, people would come up to me and hug me or talk to me as a joke and I resented them for it. I’ve always been on the shorter side and average in everything I do.

Personal details

I’m sitting at 5’7 and 116 pounds, I’m somewhat skinny fat and have been cutting for a long time because I’m obsessed with having a really low body fat. I’ve decided I wanted to hop on roids but I want to avoid the bloat. I also want to get taller before my growth plates close. I’ve been debating on starting a cycle of
Potential cycle
HGH - 3iu loading phase, 6iu growth.
-> 1-3 weeks loading
-> everything else is growth from there

Testosterone propionate base (daily pin) 250mg a week so 36mg a day.
It's good you're taking charge of your life and wanting a change. However, don't expect the test and GH to change your face a whole lot.
 
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It's good you're taking charge of your life and wanting a change. However, don't expect the test and GH to change your face a whole lot.
I understand its not a cheat code to just morphing into someone I'm not, I just want to get to a point where I feel secure with myself. :/
 
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you seem to know what your doing just make sure you dont fuck up and overgrow your heart
 
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Yes I’m a grey
I know I’m a grey but it’s not like I’m new, I’ve done my research and I know the risks and I’m willing to do whatever I can to ascend or even increase my appeal.
Unimportant context:
I’ve been heavily bi polar with my decisions and haven’t officially committed to anything due to mixed opinions on lots of these threads on here, I’ve had a girlfriend for three years and she really doesn’t want me to hop on anything for my health and because she claims to like me how I am and things everyone I look up to looks constipated and ugly, I’ve always hated how I’ve looked and been treated poorly for being an immigrant and for being weird as a kid, it’s ended up in me being casted out during elementary and middle school, people would come up to me and hug me or talk to me as a joke and I resented them for it. I’ve always been on the shorter side and average in everything I do.

Personal details

I’m sitting at 5’7 and 116 pounds, I’m somewhat skinny fat and have been cutting for a long time because I’m obsessed with having a really low body fat. I’ve decided I wanted to hop on roids but I want to avoid the bloat. I also want to get taller before my growth plates close. I’ve been debating on starting a cycle of
Potential cycle

I’m planning on getting my peptides and test off a website called Iron Lion and my Aromasin off DiRxHealth.com can anyone vouch for credibility? I also have Zen peptide on telegram as a backup

HGH - 3iu loading phase, 6iu growth.
-> 1-3 weeks loading
-> everything else is growth from there

Testosterone propionate base (daily pin) 250mg a week so 36mg a day.

Aromasin (Exemestane) 12.5 mg
-> get blood test, look at E2 levels
-> start HGH and Test, wait a week and then take another test, if E2 levels are 20 or below don’t do anything
-> if E2 is 20-40 take 6.25mg of Aromasin; if > 40 start with 6.25, then after 7 days increase dose up to 12.5mg

And yes I’ll take Aromasin from 12-2 in the day after or during a meal.

I’ve already been on dermatologist prescribed Accutane, about to finish my first prescription of 80mg a day

My safety plan was put together off another thread I read off here but I’m basically going to be monitoring my blood sugar and pressure in the morning as a precaution, for hair health I’m going to add dutasteride and minoxidil. I’m already thinning along my sides and corners of my hairline so it was abt time anyway.

Parents
as for my parents, I already had a talk with them and they’d much rather prefer if I kept them in the loop then if I just did this in secret so they’re OK with me taking all of this stuff as long as I’m getting regular check ups with my blood and watching all my health markers. i’m going to go get my x-ray soon to see if my growth plates have closed or not so I know whether it’s even worth it to take HG in the first place to try and squeeze some growth out of my genetics before it’s a little too late.

Reason for post
However, my reason for making this post is that I haven’t been able to find many threads about people, my age trying to grow taller or with any use of HGH at all all I see are a bunch of greys trying to ask questions about it and everybody there that is responding to the thread is just more grades that are just telling them not to take it and that it’s bad for you which is obvious, but I’m willing to go with the risks if it means that I can get the benefits and if I can get actual results from taking it

Reason for post follow up
There’s a lot of misinformation on.org and there’s many threads that contradict each other and some people are saying that you should take it with this so that you should take it with that or that you shouldn’t take it or that there’s other ways that there’s no other ways so I’m just making this post because I’m confused as everybody seems to be contradicting each other and you post keep popping up every day and people are agreeing or disagree with each other and it’s just a lot for me to take in because I don’t really understand whether it’s good or it’s not for the results I want bone growth because I have recessed in for orbitals and my maxilla seems to be kind of recessed. I have an overbite, and I had Invisalign for about three years, cause I was in consistent with it, and I kind of have a really narrow palette on my upper and lower parts of my mouth so I’m thinking about getting Mark or some other type of pallet expander so I can fix that and my parents also seem to be on board with that for next year so my pallet really is in an issue. I just want more forward growth for my eyes because I think eye area is pretty important and if I can fix my eye area and my height then I’d be pretty happy because those are things that you can’t really fix post puberty while a steroid cycle like I was planning on taking is something that I can do before puberty post puberty and so on

Pictures:
I’m going to drop some pictures of my physique now and what I look now without a new fraud and then kind of what I look like in a public setting. I’m not looking for anybody to dis on my looks. That’s the whole point on why I’m making this thread in the first place and why I’m on here I just need genuine advice on whether or not I should start the cycle or whether anything is wrong with my cycle cause I obviously don’t want my balls to atrophy and to be a small bald loser for the rest of my life.

Yes I know I have a recessed chin, yes I have a big nose, yes I have no maxilla, yes I have a huge forehead, yes my eye area is terrible. I’m trying to fix it so I don’t want to hear it unless it’s addressing it with criticism. Also for context the one picture where I’m in the car is from my first time bonesmashing which my girlfriend made me promise I wouldn’t do again. I understand that I already have someone I can be with for a long time and maybe eventually marry but I want to be able to love myself, is that selfish even if it’s at her expense?

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I like the effort boyo, I plan on seeing great improvements

Honestly, don't bonesmash it's mostly used for temporary improvements and you're not good looking enough to be doing that

Are you a chronic mouth breather? It's honestly annoying me how you have your mouth open in every photo

I don't believe in love, I think it's simply physical attraction between two people. But if you truly believe in it then don't let it get in the way of your rls

Good luck, should've started earlier
 
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bro see a good orthodontist and an ent you look like you have chronic mouthbreathing due to some type of obstruction of your airways
 
Yes I’m a grey
I know I’m a grey but it’s not like I’m new, I’ve done my research and I know the risks and I’m willing to do whatever I can to ascend or even increase my appeal.
Unimportant context:
I’ve been heavily bi polar with my decisions and haven’t officially committed to anything due to mixed opinions on lots of these threads on here, I’ve had a girlfriend for three years and she really doesn’t want me to hop on anything for my health and because she claims to like me how I am and things everyone I look up to looks constipated and ugly, I’ve always hated how I’ve looked and been treated poorly for being an immigrant and for being weird as a kid, it’s ended up in me being casted out during elementary and middle school, people would come up to me and hug me or talk to me as a joke and I resented them for it. I’ve always been on the shorter side and average in everything I do.

Personal details

I’m sitting at 5’7 and 116 pounds, I’m somewhat skinny fat and have been cutting for a long time because I’m obsessed with having a really low body fat. I’ve decided I wanted to hop on roids but I want to avoid the bloat. I also want to get taller before my growth plates close. I’ve been debating on starting a cycle of
Potential cycle

I’m planning on getting my peptides and test off a website called Iron Lion and my Aromasin off DiRxHealth.com can anyone vouch for credibility? I also have Zen peptide on telegram as a backup

HGH - 3iu loading phase, 6iu growth.
-> 1-3 weeks loading
-> everything else is growth from there

Testosterone propionate base (daily pin) 250mg a week so 36mg a day.

Aromasin (Exemestane) 12.5 mg
-> get blood test, look at E2 levels
-> start HGH and Test, wait a week and then take another test, if E2 levels are 20 or below don’t do anything
-> if E2 is 20-40 take 6.25mg of Aromasin; if > 40 start with 6.25, then after 7 days increase dose up to 12.5mg

And yes I’ll take Aromasin from 12-2 in the day after or during a meal.

I’ve already been on dermatologist prescribed Accutane, about to finish my first prescription of 80mg a day

My safety plan was put together off another thread I read off here but I’m basically going to be monitoring my blood sugar and pressure in the morning as a precaution, for hair health I’m going to add dutasteride and minoxidil. I’m already thinning along my sides and corners of my hairline so it was abt time anyway.

Parents
as for my parents, I already had a talk with them and they’d much rather prefer if I kept them in the loop then if I just did this in secret so they’re OK with me taking all of this stuff as long as I’m getting regular check ups with my blood and watching all my health markers. i’m going to go get my x-ray soon to see if my growth plates have closed or not so I know whether it’s even worth it to take HG in the first place to try and squeeze some growth out of my genetics before it’s a little too late.

Reason for post
However, my reason for making this post is that I haven’t been able to find many threads about people, my age trying to grow taller or with any use of HGH at all all I see are a bunch of greys trying to ask questions about it and everybody there that is responding to the thread is just more grades that are just telling them not to take it and that it’s bad for you which is obvious, but I’m willing to go with the risks if it means that I can get the benefits and if I can get actual results from taking it

Reason for post follow up
There’s a lot of misinformation on.org and there’s many threads that contradict each other and some people are saying that you should take it with this so that you should take it with that or that you shouldn’t take it or that there’s other ways that there’s no other ways so I’m just making this post because I’m confused as everybody seems to be contradicting each other and you post keep popping up every day and people are agreeing or disagree with each other and it’s just a lot for me to take in because I don’t really understand whether it’s good or it’s not for the results I want bone growth because I have recessed in for orbitals and my maxilla seems to be kind of recessed. I have an overbite, and I had Invisalign for about three years, cause I was in consistent with it, and I kind of have a really narrow palette on my upper and lower parts of my mouth so I’m thinking about getting Mark or some other type of pallet expander so I can fix that and my parents also seem to be on board with that for next year so my pallet really is in an issue. I just want more forward growth for my eyes because I think eye area is pretty important and if I can fix my eye area and my height then I’d be pretty happy because those are things that you can’t really fix post puberty while a steroid cycle like I was planning on taking is something that I can do before puberty post puberty and so on

Pictures:
I’m going to drop some pictures of my physique now and what I look now without a new fraud and then kind of what I look like in a public setting. I’m not looking for anybody to dis on my looks. That’s the whole point on why I’m making this thread in the first place and why I’m on here I just need genuine advice on whether or not I should start the cycle or whether anything is wrong with my cycle cause I obviously don’t want my balls to atrophy and to be a small bald loser for the rest of my life.

Yes I know I have a recessed chin, yes I have a big nose, yes I have no maxilla, yes I have a huge forehead, yes my eye area is terrible. I’m trying to fix it so I don’t want to hear it unless it’s addressing it with criticism. Also for context the one picture where I’m in the car is from my first time bonesmashing which my girlfriend made me promise I wouldn’t do again. I understand that I already have someone I can be with for a long time and maybe eventually marry but I want to be able to love myself, is that selfish even if it’s at her expense?

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Why do u think hgh will work now. You are not a child lol. Also test will just shut you down might as well stop now and pct.

 
Scheduling an appointment soon, do you think getting something like a MARPE would work? I know I have a narrow palate and I do have a mouth breathing problem when I sleep sometimes but I don’t want to only expand my top jaw since it would just make my bottom jaw look smaller than it is already, I don’t think there’s any way I could get approved for a bottom jaw surgery under insurance either. I’ll post an update in a month or two from now based on my decisions and hopefully progress if any. Thanks for the advice bro
 
Why do u think hgh will work now. You are not a child lol. Also test will just shut you down might as well stop now and pct.

HGH will technically work as long as growth plates are open. If they’re closed it’ll only add density to my bones not length. I’m nearing adulthood so atp I’m trying any hail Mary’s that I can find. Also won’t doing test while on PcT like HCG negate the effects and make it so I don’t really have any bad sides? Idk if that’s logical but that’s kind of the conclusion I came to. Again thanks for your suggestion it means a lot
 
you got a lot too improve but it’s not over
Start by losing bodyfat with reta or ozempic
 
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you got a lot too improve but it’s not over
Start by losing bodyfat with reta or ozempic
Thank you king epstein, im looking into microdosing ozempic since reta is overpriced from the mainstream use. Also, shouldnt I focus on gaining muscle before lean maxxing? Im suuuper underweight yet still look skinny fat. Im 116lbs at 5'7 16yo
 
HGH will technically work as long as growth plates are open. If they’re closed it’ll only add density to my bones not length. I’m nearing adulthood so atp I’m trying any hail Mary’s that I can find. Also won’t doing test while on PcT like HCG negate the effects and make it so I don’t really have any bad sides? Idk if that’s logical but that’s kind of the conclusion I came to. Again thanks for your suggestion it means a lot
No problem. Im not saying hgh wont work. Just that you wont notice anything if you start this late and will waste tons of money.

Bro you clearly didn't do any research on what pct means. Its post cycle therapy, which helps restart natural testosterone production after a cycle. Using hcg is good on cycle to maintain natural production.

Using testosterone this late also probably wont do anything but shut you down.

If you are set on doing this no matter what, at least get an xray before and then decide.
 
Scheduling an appointment soon, do you think getting something like a MARPE would work? I know I have a narrow palate and I do have a mouth breathing problem when I sleep sometimes but I don’t want to only expand my top jaw since it would just make my bottom jaw look smaller than it is already, I don’t think there’s any way I could get approved for a bottom jaw surgery under insurance either. I’ll post an update in a month or two from now based on my decisions and hopefully progress if any. Thanks for the advice bro
well i mean either way if you need the surgery, they will cover it probably easier to expand the lower jaw later n do marpe rn then do both. insurance wont even cover surgery till youre older
 
People always post threads like this, then in months never go through with it or post results
 
People always post threads like this, then in months never go through with it or post results
I know that’s why I felt like I had to make one myself, I’m getting a bunch of appointments this week and once I actually see if my growth plates are open or closed I will use some money I have saved up to buy all my laundry list of stuff. I’ll send an update that’s one week, then one month, then 6 months, the a year and so on. I’ll also include my diet, daily activities and other stuff as to kind of document my journey.
 
Get lower jaw surgery you twink. Idk why you haven’t already, if you don’t have the money jus go on the sub-forum.
 
start lifting weights, getting a good physique would already ascend you pretty far
 
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fix skin, posture, haircut, get leaner, fix ur physiuque and maybe then consider hardmaxing if u still dont like the way u loook
 
Yes I’m a grey
I know I’m a grey but it’s not like I’m new, I’ve done my research and I know the risks and I’m willing to do whatever I can to ascend or even increase my appeal.
Unimportant context:
I’ve been heavily bi polar with my decisions and haven’t officially committed to anything due to mixed opinions on lots of these threads on here, I’ve had a girlfriend for three years and she really doesn’t want me to hop on anything for my health and because she claims to like me how I am and things everyone I look up to looks constipated and ugly, I’ve always hated how I’ve looked and been treated poorly for being an immigrant and for being weird as a kid, it’s ended up in me being casted out during elementary and middle school, people would come up to me and hug me or talk to me as a joke and I resented them for it. I’ve always been on the shorter side and average in everything I do.

Personal details

I’m sitting at 5’7 and 116 pounds, I’m somewhat skinny fat and have been cutting for a long time because I’m obsessed with having a really low body fat. I’ve decided I wanted to hop on roids but I want to avoid the bloat. I also want to get taller before my growth plates close. I’ve been debating on starting a cycle of
Potential cycle

I’m planning on getting my peptides and test off a website called Iron Lion and my Aromasin off DiRxHealth.com can anyone vouch for credibility? I also have Zen peptide on telegram as a backup

HGH - 3iu loading phase, 6iu growth.
-> 1-3 weeks loading
-> everything else is growth from there

Testosterone propionate base (daily pin) 250mg a week so 36mg a day.

Aromasin (Exemestane) 12.5 mg
-> get blood test, look at E2 levels
-> start HGH and Test, wait a week and then take another test, if E2 levels are 20 or below don’t do anything
-> if E2 is 20-40 take 6.25mg of Aromasin; if > 40 start with 6.25, then after 7 days increase dose up to 12.5mg

And yes I’ll take Aromasin from 12-2 in the day after or during a meal.

I’ve already been on dermatologist prescribed Accutane, about to finish my first prescription of 80mg a day

My safety plan was put together off another thread I read off here but I’m basically going to be monitoring my blood sugar and pressure in the morning as a precaution, for hair health I’m going to add dutasteride and minoxidil. I’m already thinning along my sides and corners of my hairline so it was abt time anyway.

Parents
as for my parents, I already had a talk with them and they’d much rather prefer if I kept them in the loop then if I just did this in secret so they’re OK with me taking all of this stuff as long as I’m getting regular check ups with my blood and watching all my health markers. i’m going to go get my x-ray soon to see if my growth plates have closed or not so I know whether it’s even worth it to take HG in the first place to try and squeeze some growth out of my genetics before it’s a little too late.

Reason for post
However, my reason for making this post is that I haven’t been able to find many threads about people, my age trying to grow taller or with any use of HGH at all all I see are a bunch of greys trying to ask questions about it and everybody there that is responding to the thread is just more grades that are just telling them not to take it and that it’s bad for you which is obvious, but I’m willing to go with the risks if it means that I can get the benefits and if I can get actual results from taking it

Reason for post follow up
There’s a lot of misinformation on.org and there’s many threads that contradict each other and some people are saying that you should take it with this so that you should take it with that or that you shouldn’t take it or that there’s other ways that there’s no other ways so I’m just making this post because I’m confused as everybody seems to be contradicting each other and you post keep popping up every day and people are agreeing or disagree with each other and it’s just a lot for me to take in because I don’t really understand whether it’s good or it’s not for the results I want bone growth because I have recessed in for orbitals and my maxilla seems to be kind of recessed. I have an overbite, and I had Invisalign for about three years, cause I was in consistent with it, and I kind of have a really narrow palette on my upper and lower parts of my mouth so I’m thinking about getting Mark or some other type of pallet expander so I can fix that and my parents also seem to be on board with that for next year so my pallet really is in an issue. I just want more forward growth for my eyes because I think eye area is pretty important and if I can fix my eye area and my height then I’d be pretty happy because those are things that you can’t really fix post puberty while a steroid cycle like I was planning on taking is something that I can do before puberty post puberty and so on

Pictures:
I’m going to drop some pictures of my physique now and what I look now without a new fraud and then kind of what I look like in a public setting. I’m not looking for anybody to dis on my looks. That’s the whole point on why I’m making this thread in the first place and why I’m on here I just need genuine advice on whether or not I should start the cycle or whether anything is wrong with my cycle cause I obviously don’t want my balls to atrophy and to be a small bald loser for the rest of my life.

Yes I know I have a recessed chin, yes I have a big nose, yes I have no maxilla, yes I have a huge forehead, yes my eye area is terrible. I’m trying to fix it so I don’t want to hear it unless it’s addressing it with criticism. Also for context the one picture where I’m in the car is from my first time bonesmashing which my girlfriend made me promise I wouldn’t do again. I understand that I already have someone I can be with for a long time and maybe eventually marry but I want to be able to love myself, is that selfish even if it’s at her expense?

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Hardmax.
 
Yes I’m a grey
I know I’m a grey but it’s not like I’m new, I’ve done my research and I know the risks and I’m willing to do whatever I can to ascend or even increase my appeal.
Unimportant context:
I’ve been heavily bi polar with my decisions and haven’t officially committed to anything due to mixed opinions on lots of these threads on here, I’ve had a girlfriend for three years and she really doesn’t want me to hop on anything for my health and because she claims to like me how I am and things everyone I look up to looks constipated and ugly, I’ve always hated how I’ve looked and been treated poorly for being an immigrant and for being weird as a kid, it’s ended up in me being casted out during elementary and middle school, people would come up to me and hug me or talk to me as a joke and I resented them for it. I’ve always been on the shorter side and average in everything I do.

Personal details

I’m sitting at 5’7 and 116 pounds, I’m somewhat skinny fat and have been cutting for a long time because I’m obsessed with having a really low body fat. I’ve decided I wanted to hop on roids but I want to avoid the bloat. I also want to get taller before my growth plates close. I’ve been debating on starting a cycle of
Potential cycle

I’m planning on getting my peptides and test off a website called Iron Lion and my Aromasin off DiRxHealth.com can anyone vouch for credibility? I also have Zen peptide on telegram as a backup

HGH - 3iu loading phase, 6iu growth.
-> 1-3 weeks loading
-> everything else is growth from there

Testosterone propionate base (daily pin) 250mg a week so 36mg a day.

Aromasin (Exemestane) 12.5 mg
-> get blood test, look at E2 levels
-> start HGH and Test, wait a week and then take another test, if E2 levels are 20 or below don’t do anything
-> if E2 is 20-40 take 6.25mg of Aromasin; if > 40 start with 6.25, then after 7 days increase dose up to 12.5mg

And yes I’ll take Aromasin from 12-2 in the day after or during a meal.

I’ve already been on dermatologist prescribed Accutane, about to finish my first prescription of 80mg a day

My safety plan was put together off another thread I read off here but I’m basically going to be monitoring my blood sugar and pressure in the morning as a precaution, for hair health I’m going to add dutasteride and minoxidil. I’m already thinning along my sides and corners of my hairline so it was abt time anyway.

Parents
as for my parents, I already had a talk with them and they’d much rather prefer if I kept them in the loop then if I just did this in secret so they’re OK with me taking all of this stuff as long as I’m getting regular check ups with my blood and watching all my health markers. i’m going to go get my x-ray soon to see if my growth plates have closed or not so I know whether it’s even worth it to take HG in the first place to try and squeeze some growth out of my genetics before it’s a little too late.

Reason for post
However, my reason for making this post is that I haven’t been able to find many threads about people, my age trying to grow taller or with any use of HGH at all all I see are a bunch of greys trying to ask questions about it and everybody there that is responding to the thread is just more grades that are just telling them not to take it and that it’s bad for you which is obvious, but I’m willing to go with the risks if it means that I can get the benefits and if I can get actual results from taking it

Reason for post follow up
There’s a lot of misinformation on.org and there’s many threads that contradict each other and some people are saying that you should take it with this so that you should take it with that or that you shouldn’t take it or that there’s other ways that there’s no other ways so I’m just making this post because I’m confused as everybody seems to be contradicting each other and you post keep popping up every day and people are agreeing or disagree with each other and it’s just a lot for me to take in because I don’t really understand whether it’s good or it’s not for the results I want bone growth because I have recessed in for orbitals and my maxilla seems to be kind of recessed. I have an overbite, and I had Invisalign for about three years, cause I was in consistent with it, and I kind of have a really narrow palette on my upper and lower parts of my mouth so I’m thinking about getting Mark or some other type of pallet expander so I can fix that and my parents also seem to be on board with that for next year so my pallet really is in an issue. I just want more forward growth for my eyes because I think eye area is pretty important and if I can fix my eye area and my height then I’d be pretty happy because those are things that you can’t really fix post puberty while a steroid cycle like I was planning on taking is something that I can do before puberty post puberty and so on

Pictures:
I’m going to drop some pictures of my physique now and what I look now without a new fraud and then kind of what I look like in a public setting. I’m not looking for anybody to dis on my looks. That’s the whole point on why I’m making this thread in the first place and why I’m on here I just need genuine advice on whether or not I should start the cycle or whether anything is wrong with my cycle cause I obviously don’t want my balls to atrophy and to be a small bald loser for the rest of my life.

Yes I know I have a recessed chin, yes I have a big nose, yes I have no maxilla, yes I have a huge forehead, yes my eye area is terrible. I’m trying to fix it so I don’t want to hear it unless it’s addressing it with criticism. Also for context the one picture where I’m in the car is from my first time bonesmashing which my girlfriend made me promise I wouldn’t do again. I understand that I already have someone I can be with for a long time and maybe eventually marry but I want to be able to love myself, is that selfish even if it’s at her expense?

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Already mtn apfax then hardmax to chad
 
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HGH will technically work as long as growth plates are open. If they’re closed it’ll only add density to my bones not length. I’m nearing adulthood so atp I’m trying any hail Mary’s that I can find. Also won’t doing test while on PcT like HCG negate the effects and make it so I don’t really have any bad sides? Idk if that’s logical but that’s kind of the conclusion I came to. Again thanks for your suggestion it means a lot
ngl I'd up hgh to 8-10iu to bring igf levels to like 700-850ng/ml
 
Breathe with your nose. Don't pin as a child. Study more, js mew and take it simple
 
you are 5'6 and look gay just blast tren who cares it already over
 
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Dw bro u can hit low htn if u lock in w ur diet and max out health indicators
 
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Yes I’m a grey
I know I’m a grey but it’s not like I’m new, I’ve done my research and I know the risks and I’m willing to do whatever I can to ascend or even increase my appeal.
Unimportant context:
I’ve been heavily bi polar with my decisions and haven’t officially committed to anything due to mixed opinions on lots of these threads on here, I’ve had a girlfriend for three years and she really doesn’t want me to hop on anything for my health and because she claims to like me how I am and things everyone I look up to looks constipated and ugly, I’ve always hated how I’ve looked and been treated poorly for being an immigrant and for being weird as a kid, it’s ended up in me being casted out during elementary and middle school, people would come up to me and hug me or talk to me as a joke and I resented them for it. I’ve always been on the shorter side and average in everything I do.

Personal details

I’m sitting at 5’7 and 116 pounds, I’m somewhat skinny fat and have been cutting for a long time because I’m obsessed with having a really low body fat. I’ve decided I wanted to hop on roids but I want to avoid the bloat. I also want to get taller before my growth plates close. I’ve been debating on starting a cycle of
Potential cycle

I’m planning on getting my peptides and test off a website called Iron Lion and my Aromasin off DiRxHealth.com can anyone vouch for credibility? I also have Zen peptide on telegram as a backup

HGH - 3iu loading phase, 6iu growth.
-> 1-3 weeks loading
-> everything else is growth from there

Testosterone propionate base (daily pin) 250mg a week so 36mg a day.

Aromasin (Exemestane) 12.5 mg
-> get blood test, look at E2 levels
-> start HGH and Test, wait a week and then take another test, if E2 levels are 20 or below don’t do anything
-> if E2 is 20-40 take 6.25mg of Aromasin; if > 40 start with 6.25, then after 7 days increase dose up to 12.5mg

And yes I’ll take Aromasin from 12-2 in the day after or during a meal.

I’ve already been on dermatologist prescribed Accutane, about to finish my first prescription of 80mg a day

My safety plan was put together off another thread I read off here but I’m basically going to be monitoring my blood sugar and pressure in the morning as a precaution, for hair health I’m going to add dutasteride and minoxidil. I’m already thinning along my sides and corners of my hairline so it was abt time anyway.

Parents
as for my parents, I already had a talk with them and they’d much rather prefer if I kept them in the loop then if I just did this in secret so they’re OK with me taking all of this stuff as long as I’m getting regular check ups with my blood and watching all my health markers. i’m going to go get my x-ray soon to see if my growth plates have closed or not so I know whether it’s even worth it to take HG in the first place to try and squeeze some growth out of my genetics before it’s a little too late.

Reason for post
However, my reason for making this post is that I haven’t been able to find many threads about people, my age trying to grow taller or with any use of HGH at all all I see are a bunch of greys trying to ask questions about it and everybody there that is responding to the thread is just more grades that are just telling them not to take it and that it’s bad for you which is obvious, but I’m willing to go with the risks if it means that I can get the benefits and if I can get actual results from taking it

Reason for post follow up
There’s a lot of misinformation on.org and there’s many threads that contradict each other and some people are saying that you should take it with this so that you should take it with that or that you shouldn’t take it or that there’s other ways that there’s no other ways so I’m just making this post because I’m confused as everybody seems to be contradicting each other and you post keep popping up every day and people are agreeing or disagree with each other and it’s just a lot for me to take in because I don’t really understand whether it’s good or it’s not for the results I want bone growth because I have recessed in for orbitals and my maxilla seems to be kind of recessed. I have an overbite, and I had Invisalign for about three years, cause I was in consistent with it, and I kind of have a really narrow palette on my upper and lower parts of my mouth so I’m thinking about getting Mark or some other type of pallet expander so I can fix that and my parents also seem to be on board with that for next year so my pallet really is in an issue. I just want more forward growth for my eyes because I think eye area is pretty important and if I can fix my eye area and my height then I’d be pretty happy because those are things that you can’t really fix post puberty while a steroid cycle like I was planning on taking is something that I can do before puberty post puberty and so on

Pictures:
I’m going to drop some pictures of my physique now and what I look now without a new fraud and then kind of what I look like in a public setting. I’m not looking for anybody to dis on my looks. That’s the whole point on why I’m making this thread in the first place and why I’m on here I just need genuine advice on whether or not I should start the cycle or whether anything is wrong with my cycle cause I obviously don’t want my balls to atrophy and to be a small bald loser for the rest of my life.

Yes I know I have a recessed chin, yes I have a big nose, yes I have no maxilla, yes I have a huge forehead, yes my eye area is terrible. I’m trying to fix it so I don’t want to hear it unless it’s addressing it with criticism. Also for context the one picture where I’m in the car is from my first time bonesmashing which my girlfriend made me promise I wouldn’t do again. I understand that I already have someone I can be with for a long time and maybe eventually marry but I want to be able to love myself, is that selfish even if it’s at her expense?

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dnr might later tho. But I believe in you bro, you have potential
 
mirin the effort, the only failo in terms of face structure i see is your mandibular recession, genioplasty could do wonders for you
 
Yes I’m a grey
I know I’m a grey but it’s not like I’m new, I’ve done my research and I know the risks and I’m willing to do whatever I can to ascend or even increase my appeal.
Unimportant context:
I’ve been heavily bi polar with my decisions and haven’t officially committed to anything due to mixed opinions on lots of these threads on here, I’ve had a girlfriend for three years and she really doesn’t want me to hop on anything for my health and because she claims to like me how I am and things everyone I look up to looks constipated and ugly, I’ve always hated how I’ve looked and been treated poorly for being an immigrant and for being weird as a kid, it’s ended up in me being casted out during elementary and middle school, people would come up to me and hug me or talk to me as a joke and I resented them for it. I’ve always been on the shorter side and average in everything I do.

Personal details

I’m sitting at 5’7 and 116 pounds, I’m somewhat skinny fat and have been cutting for a long time because I’m obsessed with having a really low body fat. I’ve decided I wanted to hop on roids but I want to avoid the bloat. I also want to get taller before my growth plates close. I’ve been debating on starting a cycle of
Potential cycle

I’m planning on getting my peptides and test off a website called Iron Lion and my Aromasin off DiRxHealth.com can anyone vouch for credibility? I also have Zen peptide on telegram as a backup

HGH - 3iu loading phase, 6iu growth.
-> 1-3 weeks loading
-> everything else is growth from there

Testosterone propionate base (daily pin) 250mg a week so 36mg a day.

Aromasin (Exemestane) 12.5 mg
-> get blood test, look at E2 levels
-> start HGH and Test, wait a week and then take another test, if E2 levels are 20 or below don’t do anything
-> if E2 is 20-40 take 6.25mg of Aromasin; if > 40 start with 6.25, then after 7 days increase dose up to 12.5mg

And yes I’ll take Aromasin from 12-2 in the day after or during a meal.

I’ve already been on dermatologist prescribed Accutane, about to finish my first prescription of 80mg a day

My safety plan was put together off another thread I read off here but I’m basically going to be monitoring my blood sugar and pressure in the morning as a precaution, for hair health I’m going to add dutasteride and minoxidil. I’m already thinning along my sides and corners of my hairline so it was abt time anyway.

Parents
as for my parents, I already had a talk with them and they’d much rather prefer if I kept them in the loop then if I just did this in secret so they’re OK with me taking all of this stuff as long as I’m getting regular check ups with my blood and watching all my health markers. i’m going to go get my x-ray soon to see if my growth plates have closed or not so I know whether it’s even worth it to take HG in the first place to try and squeeze some growth out of my genetics before it’s a little too late.

Reason for post
However, my reason for making this post is that I haven’t been able to find many threads about people, my age trying to grow taller or with any use of HGH at all all I see are a bunch of greys trying to ask questions about it and everybody there that is responding to the thread is just more grades that are just telling them not to take it and that it’s bad for you which is obvious, but I’m willing to go with the risks if it means that I can get the benefits and if I can get actual results from taking it

Reason for post follow up
There’s a lot of misinformation on.org and there’s many threads that contradict each other and some people are saying that you should take it with this so that you should take it with that or that you shouldn’t take it or that there’s other ways that there’s no other ways so I’m just making this post because I’m confused as everybody seems to be contradicting each other and you post keep popping up every day and people are agreeing or disagree with each other and it’s just a lot for me to take in because I don’t really understand whether it’s good or it’s not for the results I want bone growth because I have recessed in for orbitals and my maxilla seems to be kind of recessed. I have an overbite, and I had Invisalign for about three years, cause I was in consistent with it, and I kind of have a really narrow palette on my upper and lower parts of my mouth so I’m thinking about getting Mark or some other type of pallet expander so I can fix that and my parents also seem to be on board with that for next year so my pallet really is in an issue. I just want more forward growth for my eyes because I think eye area is pretty important and if I can fix my eye area and my height then I’d be pretty happy because those are things that you can’t really fix post puberty while a steroid cycle like I was planning on taking is something that I can do before puberty post puberty and so on

Pictures:
I’m going to drop some pictures of my physique now and what I look now without a new fraud and then kind of what I look like in a public setting. I’m not looking for anybody to dis on my looks. That’s the whole point on why I’m making this thread in the first place and why I’m on here I just need genuine advice on whether or not I should start the cycle or whether anything is wrong with my cycle cause I obviously don’t want my balls to atrophy and to be a small bald loser for the rest of my life.

Yes I know I have a recessed chin, yes I have a big nose, yes I have no maxilla, yes I have a huge forehead, yes my eye area is terrible. I’m trying to fix it so I don’t want to hear it unless it’s addressing it with criticism. Also for context the one picture where I’m in the car is from my first time bonesmashing which my girlfriend made me promise I wouldn’t do again. I understand that I already have someone I can be with for a long time and maybe eventually marry but I want to be able to love myself, is that selfish even if it’s at her expense?

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Dnr but try test cream on your bones might make it grow:bigbrain:
 
Yes I’m a grey
I know I’m a grey but it’s not like I’m new, I’ve done my research and I know the risks and I’m willing to do whatever I can to ascend or even increase my appeal.
Unimportant context:
I’ve been heavily bi polar with my decisions and haven’t officially committed to anything due to mixed opinions on lots of these threads on here, I’ve had a girlfriend for three years and she really doesn’t want me to hop on anything for my health and because she claims to like me how I am and things everyone I look up to looks constipated and ugly, I’ve always hated how I’ve looked and been treated poorly for being an immigrant and for being weird as a kid, it’s ended up in me being casted out during elementary and middle school, people would come up to me and hug me or talk to me as a joke and I resented them for it. I’ve always been on the shorter side and average in everything I do.

Personal details

I’m sitting at 5’7 and 116 pounds, I’m somewhat skinny fat and have been cutting for a long time because I’m obsessed with having a really low body fat. I’ve decided I wanted to hop on roids but I want to avoid the bloat. I also want to get taller before my growth plates close. I’ve been debating on starting a cycle of
Potential cycle

I’m planning on getting my peptides and test off a website called Iron Lion and my Aromasin off DiRxHealth.com can anyone vouch for credibility? I also have Zen peptide on telegram as a backup

HGH - 3iu loading phase, 6iu growth.
-> 1-3 weeks loading
-> everything else is growth from there

Testosterone propionate base (daily pin) 250mg a week so 36mg a day.

Aromasin (Exemestane) 12.5 mg
-> get blood test, look at E2 levels
-> start HGH and Test, wait a week and then take another test, if E2 levels are 20 or below don’t do anything
-> if E2 is 20-40 take 6.25mg of Aromasin; if > 40 start with 6.25, then after 7 days increase dose up to 12.5mg

And yes I’ll take Aromasin from 12-2 in the day after or during a meal.

I’ve already been on dermatologist prescribed Accutane, about to finish my first prescription of 80mg a day

My safety plan was put together off another thread I read off here but I’m basically going to be monitoring my blood sugar and pressure in the morning as a precaution, for hair health I’m going to add dutasteride and minoxidil. I’m already thinning along my sides and corners of my hairline so it was abt time anyway.

Parents
as for my parents, I already had a talk with them and they’d much rather prefer if I kept them in the loop then if I just did this in secret so they’re OK with me taking all of this stuff as long as I’m getting regular check ups with my blood and watching all my health markers. i’m going to go get my x-ray soon to see if my growth plates have closed or not so I know whether it’s even worth it to take HG in the first place to try and squeeze some growth out of my genetics before it’s a little too late.

Reason for post
However, my reason for making this post is that I haven’t been able to find many threads about people, my age trying to grow taller or with any use of HGH at all all I see are a bunch of greys trying to ask questions about it and everybody there that is responding to the thread is just more grades that are just telling them not to take it and that it’s bad for you which is obvious, but I’m willing to go with the risks if it means that I can get the benefits and if I can get actual results from taking it

Reason for post follow up
There’s a lot of misinformation on.org and there’s many threads that contradict each other and some people are saying that you should take it with this so that you should take it with that or that you shouldn’t take it or that there’s other ways that there’s no other ways so I’m just making this post because I’m confused as everybody seems to be contradicting each other and you post keep popping up every day and people are agreeing or disagree with each other and it’s just a lot for me to take in because I don’t really understand whether it’s good or it’s not for the results I want bone growth because I have recessed in for orbitals and my maxilla seems to be kind of recessed. I have an overbite, and I had Invisalign for about three years, cause I was in consistent with it, and I kind of have a really narrow palette on my upper and lower parts of my mouth so I’m thinking about getting Mark or some other type of pallet expander so I can fix that and my parents also seem to be on board with that for next year so my pallet really is in an issue. I just want more forward growth for my eyes because I think eye area is pretty important and if I can fix my eye area and my height then I’d be pretty happy because those are things that you can’t really fix post puberty while a steroid cycle like I was planning on taking is something that I can do before puberty post puberty and so on

Pictures:
I’m going to drop some pictures of my physique now and what I look now without a new fraud and then kind of what I look like in a public setting. I’m not looking for anybody to dis on my looks. That’s the whole point on why I’m making this thread in the first place and why I’m on here I just need genuine advice on whether or not I should start the cycle or whether anything is wrong with my cycle cause I obviously don’t want my balls to atrophy and to be a small bald loser for the rest of my life.

Yes I know I have a recessed chin, yes I have a big nose, yes I have no maxilla, yes I have a huge forehead, yes my eye area is terrible. I’m trying to fix it so I don’t want to hear it unless it’s addressing it with criticism. Also for context the one picture where I’m in the car is from my first time bonesmashing which my girlfriend made me promise I wouldn’t do again. I understand that I already have someone I can be with for a long time and maybe eventually marry but I want to be able to love myself, is that selfish even if it’s at her expense?

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your mouthbreathing and half of these pics bro atleast try to fix posture,
 
no
Yes I’m a grey
I know I’m a grey but it’s not like I’m new, I’ve done my research and I know the risks and I’m willing to do whatever I can to ascend or even increase my appeal.
Unimportant context:
I’ve been heavily bi polar with my decisions and haven’t officially committed to anything due to mixed opinions on lots of these threads on here, I’ve had a girlfriend for three years and she really doesn’t want me to hop on anything for my health and because she claims to like me how I am and things everyone I look up to looks constipated and ugly, I’ve always hated how I’ve looked and been treated poorly for being an immigrant and for being weird as a kid, it’s ended up in me being casted out during elementary and middle school, people would come up to me and hug me or talk to me as a joke and I resented them for it. I’ve always been on the shorter side and average in everything I do.

Personal details

I’m sitting at 5’7 and 116 pounds, I’m somewhat skinny fat and have been cutting for a long time because I’m obsessed with having a really low body fat. I’ve decided I wanted to hop on roids but I want to avoid the bloat. I also want to get taller before my growth plates close. I’ve been debating on starting a cycle of
Potential cycle

I’m planning on getting my peptides and test off a website called Iron Lion and my Aromasin off DiRxHealth.com can anyone vouch for credibility? I also have Zen peptide on telegram as a backup

HGH - 3iu loading phase, 6iu growth.
-> 1-3 weeks loading
-> everything else is growth from there

Testosterone propionate base (daily pin) 250mg a week so 36mg a day.

Aromasin (Exemestane) 12.5 mg
-> get blood test, look at E2 levels
-> start HGH and Test, wait a week and then take another test, if E2 levels are 20 or below don’t do anything
-> if E2 is 20-40 take 6.25mg of Aromasin; if > 40 start with 6.25, then after 7 days increase dose up to 12.5mg

And yes I’ll take Aromasin from 12-2 in the day after or during a meal.

I’ve already been on dermatologist prescribed Accutane, about to finish my first prescription of 80mg a day

My safety plan was put together off another thread I read off here but I’m basically going to be monitoring my blood sugar and pressure in the morning as a precaution, for hair health I’m going to add dutasteride and minoxidil. I’m already thinning along my sides and corners of my hairline so it was abt time anyway.

Parents
as for my parents, I already had a talk with them and they’d much rather prefer if I kept them in the loop then if I just did this in secret so they’re OK with me taking all of this stuff as long as I’m getting regular check ups with my blood and watching all my health markers. i’m going to go get my x-ray soon to see if my growth plates have closed or not so I know whether it’s even worth it to take HG in the first place to try and squeeze some growth out of my genetics before it’s a little too late.

Reason for post
However, my reason for making this post is that I haven’t been able to find many threads about people, my age trying to grow taller or with any use of HGH at all all I see are a bunch of greys trying to ask questions about it and everybody there that is responding to the thread is just more grades that are just telling them not to take it and that it’s bad for you which is obvious, but I’m willing to go with the risks if it means that I can get the benefits and if I can get actual results from taking it

Reason for post follow up
There’s a lot of misinformation on.org and there’s many threads that contradict each other and some people are saying that you should take it with this so that you should take it with that or that you shouldn’t take it or that there’s other ways that there’s no other ways so I’m just making this post because I’m confused as everybody seems to be contradicting each other and you post keep popping up every day and people are agreeing or disagree with each other and it’s just a lot for me to take in because I don’t really understand whether it’s good or it’s not for the results I want bone growth because I have recessed in for orbitals and my maxilla seems to be kind of recessed. I have an overbite, and I had Invisalign for about three years, cause I was in consistent with it, and I kind of have a really narrow palette on my upper and lower parts of my mouth so I’m thinking about getting Mark or some other type of pallet expander so I can fix that and my parents also seem to be on board with that for next year so my pallet really is in an issue. I just want more forward growth for my eyes because I think eye area is pretty important and if I can fix my eye area and my height then I’d be pretty happy because those are things that you can’t really fix post puberty while a steroid cycle like I was planning on taking is something that I can do before puberty post puberty and so on

Pictures:
I’m going to drop some pictures of my physique now and what I look now without a new fraud and then kind of what I look like in a public setting. I’m not looking for anybody to dis on my looks. That’s the whole point on why I’m making this thread in the first place and why I’m on here I just need genuine advice on whether or not I should start the cycle or whether anything is wrong with my cycle cause I obviously don’t want my balls to atrophy and to be a small bald loser for the rest of my life.

Yes I know I have a recessed chin, yes I have a big nose, yes I have no maxilla, yes I have a huge forehead, yes my eye area is terrible. I’m trying to fix it so I don’t want to hear it unless it’s addressing it with criticism. Also for context the one picture where I’m in the car is from my first time bonesmashing which my girlfriend made me promise I wouldn’t do again. I understand that I already have someone I can be with for a long time and maybe eventually marry but I want to be able to love myself, is that selfish even if it’s at her expense?

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offense but 5'7 at 16 is under developed, test and hgh wont fix that, its over but face wise not so much
 

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