16 year old beginner steroid cycle UPDATED (TEST/TREN/MAST/HGH)

zennn said:
UPDATED: My Journey at 17 ​

Hey everyone,

scary movie hello GIF


Some of you might remember my very first thread ("16 year old beginner steroid cycle"). i was a little retarded and wanted to run 200mg test e and 6-8iu hgh.

Sad Feelings GIF


Here is my final roadmap for the next 6 months:​

Seeing how i tolerate Gear (Months 1–3)

For the first 12 weeks, the focus is on building a solid foundation of lean tissue and letting the HGH fully saturate. A temporary water bloat in the face is consciously accepted during this phase.

Testosterone Enanthate (Test E): 350 mg / week
Human Growth Hormone (HGH): 4 IU / daily

Dimorphism Cut (Months 4–6)

At week 13, the protocol shifts completely. Testosterone is dropped to trt dose to crush estrogen conversion, flushing out all facial bloating and subcutaneous water. Masteron combined with a micro dose of Tren will be deployed

Testosterone Enanthate (Test E): Dropped to 140 mg / week (TRT base to eliminate Estrogen + Tren Prolactin/Progesterone synergy/Gyno risk)

Masteron Propionate (Mast P): 200 mg / week (Short ester used as an immediate emergency rip cord in case of DHT sides)

Trenbolon Acetate (Tren A): 70 mg / week (Microdose for maximum hardness and nutrient partitioning with minimal psychological impact)

Human Growth Hormone (HGH): Continued at 4 IU / daily

Ancillaries

1. Daily Baseline Support (Preventative Protocol)
These are deployed from Day 1 to proactively protect cardiovascular health, organs, and joints.

T4: for thyroid, 50mcg / daily

Magnesium glycinate: 400mg / daily

Retatrutide: microdosed at 1-2mg / weekly
for insulin sensitivity and bloodpressure

Telmisartan: 40 mg / daily
Crucial for cardiovascular protection. It blocks the AT1 receptor, manages blood pressure (vital on HGH and Trenbolone), protects renal function, and improves insulin sensitivity.

Vitex (Chasteberry): 400 mg / daily
Deployed immediately at the start of Phase 2. Functions as a natural dopamine agonist to keep Tren induced prolactin spikes in check, preventing prolactin based gyno and mood swings.

BPC-157 & TB-500: 500 mcg daily (BPC) / 3.5 mg weekly (TB)
Synergizes with HGH to keep tendons and joints fully lubricated and repaired once Estrogen drops in Phase 2.

High Dose Omega3: 4g / daily
Essential for endothelial and lipid protection, as both Tren and Masteron heavily skew HDL/LDL ratios.

TUDCA / NAC: 500 mg TUDCA / 1200 mg NAC / daily
Liver support to manage stress from injectable compounds and overall metabolic load.

Aromasin (Exemestan) 12.5 mg (half a tablet) every 3 to 4 days until symptoms clear.
to monitor e2, the testosterone aromatizes.

Cabergolin (Caber) 0.25 mg to 0.5 mg once a week (usually 1-2 doses are enough to reset the baseline).
When to use:** If prolactin completely bypasses Vitex protection (symptoms: nipple lactation, extreme lethargy, sudden ED). Extremely potent compound.

Berberine 500 mg of Berberine taken before high carb meals.
for insulin sensitivity.



2. Hair Loss Prevention
Since Masteron and Trenbolon are highly androgenic and cannot be blocked by oral Finasteride, a direct topical approach at the scalp level is required.

RU58841 (Topical Anti Androgen) 50 mg / daily
The most critical compound for this specific stack. It acts as a topical androgen receptor antagonist on the scalp. It physically blocks Masteron and Trenbolon from binding to your hair follicles without altering your systemic hormones.

Ketoconazole Shampoo (Nizoral 2%) 2-3x / week
A mild topical anti androgen and anti fungal. It helps clear scalp inflammation and removes local DHT/androgen buildup from the scalp surface. Leave it in for 5-10 minutes before rinsing.

Oral Minoxidil: 5 mg / daily​



i wont get bloods done but nothing ever happens anyway jfl

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zennn said:
UPDATED: My Journey at 17 ​

Hey everyone,

scary movie hello GIF


Some of you might remember my very first thread ("16 year old beginner steroid cycle"). i was a little retarded and wanted to run 200mg test e and 6-8iu hgh.

Sad Feelings GIF


Here is my final roadmap for the next 6 months:​

Seeing how i tolerate Gear (Months 1–3)

For the first 12 weeks, the focus is on building a solid foundation of lean tissue and letting the HGH fully saturate. A temporary water bloat in the face is consciously accepted during this phase.

Testosterone Enanthate (Test E): 350 mg / week
Human Growth Hormone (HGH): 4 IU / daily

Dimorphism Cut (Months 4–6)

At week 13, the protocol shifts completely. Testosterone is dropped to trt dose to crush estrogen conversion, flushing out all facial bloating and subcutaneous water. Masteron combined with a micro dose of Tren will be deployed

Testosterone Enanthate (Test E): Dropped to 140 mg / week (TRT base to eliminate Estrogen + Tren Prolactin/Progesterone synergy/Gyno risk)

Masteron Propionate (Mast P): 200 mg / week (Short ester used as an immediate emergency rip cord in case of DHT sides)

Trenbolon Acetate (Tren A): 70 mg / week (Microdose for maximum hardness and nutrient partitioning with minimal psychological impact)

Human Growth Hormone (HGH): Continued at 4 IU / daily

Ancillaries

1. Daily Baseline Support (Preventative Protocol)
These are deployed from Day 1 to proactively protect cardiovascular health, organs, and joints.

T4: for thyroid, 50mcg / daily

Magnesium glycinate: 400mg / daily

Retatrutide: microdosed at 1-2mg / weekly
for insulin sensitivity and bloodpressure

Telmisartan: 40 mg / daily
Crucial for cardiovascular protection. It blocks the AT1 receptor, manages blood pressure (vital on HGH and Trenbolone), protects renal function, and improves insulin sensitivity.

Vitex (Chasteberry): 400 mg / daily
Deployed immediately at the start of Phase 2. Functions as a natural dopamine agonist to keep Tren induced prolactin spikes in check, preventing prolactin based gyno and mood swings.

BPC-157 & TB-500: 500 mcg daily (BPC) / 3.5 mg weekly (TB)
Synergizes with HGH to keep tendons and joints fully lubricated and repaired once Estrogen drops in Phase 2.

High Dose Omega3: 4g / daily
Essential for endothelial and lipid protection, as both Tren and Masteron heavily skew HDL/LDL ratios.

TUDCA / NAC: 500 mg TUDCA / 1200 mg NAC / daily
Liver support to manage stress from injectable compounds and overall metabolic load.

Aromasin (Exemestan) 12.5 mg (half a tablet) every 3 to 4 days until symptoms clear.
to monitor e2, the testosterone aromatizes.

Cabergolin (Caber) 0.25 mg to 0.5 mg once a week (usually 1-2 doses are enough to reset the baseline).
When to use:** If prolactin completely bypasses Vitex protection (symptoms: nipple lactation, extreme lethargy, sudden ED). Extremely potent compound.

Berberine 500 mg of Berberine taken before high carb meals.
for insulin sensitivity.



2. Hair Loss Prevention
Since Masteron and Trenbolon are highly androgenic and cannot be blocked by oral Finasteride, a direct topical approach at the scalp level is required.

RU58841 (Topical Anti Androgen) 50 mg / daily
The most critical compound for this specific stack. It acts as a topical androgen receptor antagonist on the scalp. It physically blocks Masteron and Trenbolon from binding to your hair follicles without altering your systemic hormones.

Ketoconazole Shampoo (Nizoral 2%) 2-3x / week
A mild topical anti androgen and anti fungal. It helps clear scalp inflammation and removes local DHT/androgen buildup from the scalp surface. Leave it in for 5-10 minutes before rinsing.

Oral Minoxidil: 5 mg / daily​



i wont get bloods done but nothing ever happens anyway jfl

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i wont get bloods done but nothing ever happens anyway jfl​
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No bloods on tren... Thats my boy:love::love::love:
Also do more GH you brookie
 
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do you want to grow taller or just cut?
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i had to explain this a thousand times now:

i am using it for sleep, synergy with aas and recovery.

4ius is working fine right now, kinda bloated face and hands but i dont mind.
 
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zennn said:
UPDATED: My Journey at 17 ​

Hey everyone,

scary movie hello GIF


Some of you might remember my very first thread ("16 year old beginner steroid cycle"). i was a little retarded and wanted to run 200mg test e and 6-8iu hgh.

Sad Feelings GIF


Here is my final roadmap for the next 6 months:​

Seeing how i tolerate Gear (Months 1–3)

For the first 12 weeks, the focus is on building a solid foundation of lean tissue and letting the HGH fully saturate. A temporary water bloat in the face is consciously accepted during this phase.

Testosterone Enanthate (Test E): 350 mg / week
Human Growth Hormone (HGH): 4 IU / daily

Dimorphism Cut (Months 4–6)

At week 13, the protocol shifts completely. Testosterone is dropped to trt dose to crush estrogen conversion, flushing out all facial bloating and subcutaneous water. Masteron combined with a micro dose of Tren will be deployed

Testosterone Enanthate (Test E): Dropped to 140 mg / week (TRT base to eliminate Estrogen + Tren Prolactin/Progesterone synergy/Gyno risk)

Masteron Propionate (Mast P): 200 mg / week (Short ester used as an immediate emergency rip cord in case of DHT sides)

Trenbolon Acetate (Tren A): 70 mg / week (Microdose for maximum hardness and nutrient partitioning with minimal psychological impact)

Human Growth Hormone (HGH): Continued at 4 IU / daily

Ancillaries

1. Daily Baseline Support (Preventative Protocol)
These are deployed from Day 1 to proactively protect cardiovascular health, organs, and joints.

T4: for thyroid, 50mcg / daily

Magnesium glycinate: 400mg / daily

Retatrutide: microdosed at 1-2mg / weekly
for insulin sensitivity and bloodpressure

Telmisartan: 40 mg / daily
Crucial for cardiovascular protection. It blocks the AT1 receptor, manages blood pressure (vital on HGH and Trenbolone), protects renal function, and improves insulin sensitivity.

Vitex (Chasteberry): 400 mg / daily
Deployed immediately at the start of Phase 2. Functions as a natural dopamine agonist to keep Tren induced prolactin spikes in check, preventing prolactin based gyno and mood swings.

BPC-157 & TB-500: 500 mcg daily (BPC) / 3.5 mg weekly (TB)
Synergizes with HGH to keep tendons and joints fully lubricated and repaired once Estrogen drops in Phase 2.

High Dose Omega3: 4g / daily
Essential for endothelial and lipid protection, as both Tren and Masteron heavily skew HDL/LDL ratios.

TUDCA / NAC: 500 mg TUDCA / 1200 mg NAC / daily
Liver support to manage stress from injectable compounds and overall metabolic load.

Aromasin (Exemestan) 12.5 mg (half a tablet) every 3 to 4 days until symptoms clear.
to monitor e2, the testosterone aromatizes.

Cabergolin (Caber) 0.25 mg to 0.5 mg once a week (usually 1-2 doses are enough to reset the baseline).
When to use:** If prolactin completely bypasses Vitex protection (symptoms: nipple lactation, extreme lethargy, sudden ED). Extremely potent compound.

Berberine 500 mg of Berberine taken before high carb meals.
for insulin sensitivity.



2. Hair Loss Prevention
Since Masteron and Trenbolon are highly androgenic and cannot be blocked by oral Finasteride, a direct topical approach at the scalp level is required.

RU58841 (Topical Anti Androgen) 50 mg / daily
The most critical compound for this specific stack. It acts as a topical androgen receptor antagonist on the scalp. It physically blocks Masteron and Trenbolon from binding to your hair follicles without altering your systemic hormones.

Ketoconazole Shampoo (Nizoral 2%) 2-3x / week
A mild topical anti androgen and anti fungal. It helps clear scalp inflammation and removes local DHT/androgen buildup from the scalp surface. Leave it in for 5-10 minutes before rinsing.

Oral Minoxidil: 5 mg / daily​



i wont get bloods done but nothing ever happens anyway jfl

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after the 6 months what is ur plan? hopping on a pct? or wha i’m a low iq cell sorry
 
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after the 6 months what is ur plan? hopping on a pct? or wha i’m a low iq cell sorry
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either pct or maybe ill go 1-2 months longer and then pct
 
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i had to explain this a thousand times now:

i am using it for sleep, synergy with aas and recovery.

4ius is working fine right now, kinda bloated face and hands but i dont mind.
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where did u buy from
 
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zennn said:
UPDATED: My Journey at 17 ​

Hey everyone,

scary movie hello GIF


Some of you might remember my very first thread ("16 year old beginner steroid cycle"). i was a little retarded and wanted to run 200mg test e and 6-8iu hgh.

Sad Feelings GIF


Here is my final roadmap for the next 6 months:​

Seeing how i tolerate Gear (Months 1–3)

For the first 12 weeks, the focus is on building a solid foundation of lean tissue and letting the HGH fully saturate. A temporary water bloat in the face is consciously accepted during this phase.

Testosterone Enanthate (Test E): 350 mg / week
Human Growth Hormone (HGH): 4 IU / daily

Dimorphism Cut (Months 4–6)

At week 13, the protocol shifts completely. Testosterone is dropped to trt dose to crush estrogen conversion, flushing out all facial bloating and subcutaneous water. Masteron combined with a micro dose of Tren will be deployed

Testosterone Enanthate (Test E): Dropped to 140 mg / week (TRT base to eliminate Estrogen + Tren Prolactin/Progesterone synergy/Gyno risk)

Masteron Propionate (Mast P): 200 mg / week (Short ester used as an immediate emergency rip cord in case of DHT sides)

Trenbolon Acetate (Tren A): 70 mg / week (Microdose for maximum hardness and nutrient partitioning with minimal psychological impact)

Human Growth Hormone (HGH): Continued at 4 IU / daily

Ancillaries

1. Daily Baseline Support (Preventative Protocol)
These are deployed from Day 1 to proactively protect cardiovascular health, organs, and joints.

T4: for thyroid, 50mcg / daily

Magnesium glycinate: 400mg / daily

Retatrutide: microdosed at 1-2mg / weekly
for insulin sensitivity and bloodpressure

Telmisartan: 40 mg / daily
Crucial for cardiovascular protection. It blocks the AT1 receptor, manages blood pressure (vital on HGH and Trenbolone), protects renal function, and improves insulin sensitivity.

Vitex (Chasteberry): 400 mg / daily
Deployed immediately at the start of Phase 2. Functions as a natural dopamine agonist to keep Tren induced prolactin spikes in check, preventing prolactin based gyno and mood swings.

BPC-157 & TB-500: 500 mcg daily (BPC) / 3.5 mg weekly (TB)
Synergizes with HGH to keep tendons and joints fully lubricated and repaired once Estrogen drops in Phase 2.

High Dose Omega3: 4g / daily
Essential for endothelial and lipid protection, as both Tren and Masteron heavily skew HDL/LDL ratios.

TUDCA / NAC: 500 mg TUDCA / 1200 mg NAC / daily
Liver support to manage stress from injectable compounds and overall metabolic load.

Aromasin (Exemestan) 12.5 mg (half a tablet) every 3 to 4 days until symptoms clear.
to monitor e2, the testosterone aromatizes.

Cabergolin (Caber) 0.25 mg to 0.5 mg once a week (usually 1-2 doses are enough to reset the baseline).
When to use:** If prolactin completely bypasses Vitex protection (symptoms: nipple lactation, extreme lethargy, sudden ED). Extremely potent compound.

Berberine 500 mg of Berberine taken before high carb meals.
for insulin sensitivity.



2. Hair Loss Prevention
Since Masteron and Trenbolon are highly androgenic and cannot be blocked by oral Finasteride, a direct topical approach at the scalp level is required.

RU58841 (Topical Anti Androgen) 50 mg / daily
The most critical compound for this specific stack. It acts as a topical androgen receptor antagonist on the scalp. It physically blocks Masteron and Trenbolon from binding to your hair follicles without altering your systemic hormones.

Ketoconazole Shampoo (Nizoral 2%) 2-3x / week
A mild topical anti androgen and anti fungal. It helps clear scalp inflammation and removes local DHT/androgen buildup from the scalp surface. Leave it in for 5-10 minutes before rinsing.

Oral Minoxidil: 5 mg / daily​



i wont get bloods done but nothing ever happens anyway jfl

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Mast is absolute ass and you don't need caber, you don't even need P-5-P.
 
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zennn said:
UPDATED: My Journey at 17 ​

Hey everyone,

scary movie hello GIF


Some of you might remember my very first thread ("16 year old beginner steroid cycle"). i was a little retarded and wanted to run 200mg test e and 6-8iu hgh.

Sad Feelings GIF


Here is my final roadmap for the next 6 months:​

Seeing how i tolerate Gear (Months 1–3)

For the first 12 weeks, the focus is on building a solid foundation of lean tissue and letting the HGH fully saturate. A temporary water bloat in the face is consciously accepted during this phase.

Testosterone Enanthate (Test E): 350 mg / week
Human Growth Hormone (HGH): 4 IU / daily

Dimorphism Cut (Months 4–6)

At week 13, the protocol shifts completely. Testosterone is dropped to trt dose to crush estrogen conversion, flushing out all facial bloating and subcutaneous water. Masteron combined with a micro dose of Tren will be deployed

Testosterone Enanthate (Test E): Dropped to 140 mg / week (TRT base to eliminate Estrogen + Tren Prolactin/Progesterone synergy/Gyno risk)

Masteron Propionate (Mast P): 200 mg / week (Short ester used as an immediate emergency rip cord in case of DHT sides)

Trenbolon Acetate (Tren A): 70 mg / week (Microdose for maximum hardness and nutrient partitioning with minimal psychological impact)

Human Growth Hormone (HGH): Continued at 4 IU / daily

Ancillaries

1. Daily Baseline Support (Preventative Protocol)
These are deployed from Day 1 to proactively protect cardiovascular health, organs, and joints.

T4: for thyroid, 50mcg / daily

Magnesium glycinate: 400mg / daily

Retatrutide: microdosed at 1-2mg / weekly
for insulin sensitivity and bloodpressure

Telmisartan: 40 mg / daily
Crucial for cardiovascular protection. It blocks the AT1 receptor, manages blood pressure (vital on HGH and Trenbolone), protects renal function, and improves insulin sensitivity.

Vitex (Chasteberry): 400 mg / daily
Deployed immediately at the start of Phase 2. Functions as a natural dopamine agonist to keep Tren induced prolactin spikes in check, preventing prolactin based gyno and mood swings.

BPC-157 & TB-500: 500 mcg daily (BPC) / 3.5 mg weekly (TB)
Synergizes with HGH to keep tendons and joints fully lubricated and repaired once Estrogen drops in Phase 2.

High Dose Omega3: 4g / daily
Essential for endothelial and lipid protection, as both Tren and Masteron heavily skew HDL/LDL ratios.

TUDCA / NAC: 500 mg TUDCA / 1200 mg NAC / daily
Liver support to manage stress from injectable compounds and overall metabolic load.

Aromasin (Exemestan) 12.5 mg (half a tablet) every 3 to 4 days until symptoms clear.
to monitor e2, the testosterone aromatizes.

Cabergolin (Caber) 0.25 mg to 0.5 mg once a week (usually 1-2 doses are enough to reset the baseline).
When to use:** If prolactin completely bypasses Vitex protection (symptoms: nipple lactation, extreme lethargy, sudden ED). Extremely potent compound.

Berberine 500 mg of Berberine taken before high carb meals.
for insulin sensitivity.



2. Hair Loss Prevention
Since Masteron and Trenbolon are highly androgenic and cannot be blocked by oral Finasteride, a direct topical approach at the scalp level is required.

RU58841 (Topical Anti Androgen) 50 mg / daily
The most critical compound for this specific stack. It acts as a topical androgen receptor antagonist on the scalp. It physically blocks Masteron and Trenbolon from binding to your hair follicles without altering your systemic hormones.

Ketoconazole Shampoo (Nizoral 2%) 2-3x / week
A mild topical anti androgen and anti fungal. It helps clear scalp inflammation and removes local DHT/androgen buildup from the scalp surface. Leave it in for 5-10 minutes before rinsing.

Oral Minoxidil: 5 mg / daily​



i wont get bloods done but nothing ever happens anyway jfl

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tell me what to improve please its still under construction



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zennn said:
UPDATED: My Journey at 17 ​

Hey everyone,

scary movie hello GIF


Some of you might remember my very first thread ("16 year old beginner steroid cycle"). i was a little retarded and wanted to run 200mg test e and 6-8iu hgh.

Sad Feelings GIF


Here is my final roadmap for the next 6 months:​

Seeing how i tolerate Gear (Months 1–3)

For the first 12 weeks, the focus is on building a solid foundation of lean tissue and letting the HGH fully saturate. A temporary water bloat in the face is consciously accepted during this phase.

Testosterone Enanthate (Test E): 350 mg / week
Human Growth Hormone (HGH): 4 IU / daily

Dimorphism Cut (Months 4–6)

At week 13, the protocol shifts completely. Testosterone is dropped to trt dose to crush estrogen conversion, flushing out all facial bloating and subcutaneous water. Masteron combined with a micro dose of Tren will be deployed

Testosterone Enanthate (Test E): Dropped to 140 mg / week (TRT base to eliminate Estrogen + Tren Prolactin/Progesterone synergy/Gyno risk)

Masteron Propionate (Mast P): 200 mg / week (Short ester used as an immediate emergency rip cord in case of DHT sides)

Trenbolon Acetate (Tren A): 70 mg / week (Microdose for maximum hardness and nutrient partitioning with minimal psychological impact)

Human Growth Hormone (HGH): Continued at 4 IU / daily

Ancillaries

1. Daily Baseline Support (Preventative Protocol)
These are deployed from Day 1 to proactively protect cardiovascular health, organs, and joints.

T4: for thyroid, 50mcg / daily

Magnesium glycinate: 400mg / daily

Retatrutide: microdosed at 1-2mg / weekly
for insulin sensitivity and bloodpressure

Telmisartan: 40 mg / daily
Crucial for cardiovascular protection. It blocks the AT1 receptor, manages blood pressure (vital on HGH and Trenbolone), protects renal function, and improves insulin sensitivity.

Vitex (Chasteberry): 400 mg / daily
Deployed immediately at the start of Phase 2. Functions as a natural dopamine agonist to keep Tren induced prolactin spikes in check, preventing prolactin based gyno and mood swings.

BPC-157 & TB-500: 500 mcg daily (BPC) / 3.5 mg weekly (TB)
Synergizes with HGH to keep tendons and joints fully lubricated and repaired once Estrogen drops in Phase 2.

High Dose Omega3: 4g / daily
Essential for endothelial and lipid protection, as both Tren and Masteron heavily skew HDL/LDL ratios.

TUDCA / NAC: 500 mg TUDCA / 1200 mg NAC / daily
Liver support to manage stress from injectable compounds and overall metabolic load.

Aromasin (Exemestan) 12.5 mg (half a tablet) every 3 to 4 days until symptoms clear.
to monitor e2, the testosterone aromatizes.

Cabergolin (Caber) 0.25 mg to 0.5 mg once a week (usually 1-2 doses are enough to reset the baseline).
When to use:** If prolactin completely bypasses Vitex protection (symptoms: nipple lactation, extreme lethargy, sudden ED). Extremely potent compound.

Berberine 500 mg of Berberine taken before high carb meals.
for insulin sensitivity.



2. Hair Loss Prevention
Since Masteron and Trenbolon are highly androgenic and cannot be blocked by oral Finasteride, a direct topical approach at the scalp level is required.

RU58841 (Topical Anti Androgen) 50 mg / daily
The most critical compound for this specific stack. It acts as a topical androgen receptor antagonist on the scalp. It physically blocks Masteron and Trenbolon from binding to your hair follicles without altering your systemic hormones.

Ketoconazole Shampoo (Nizoral 2%) 2-3x / week
A mild topical anti androgen and anti fungal. It helps clear scalp inflammation and removes local DHT/androgen buildup from the scalp surface. Leave it in for 5-10 minutes before rinsing.

Oral Minoxidil: 5 mg / daily​



i wont get bloods done but nothing ever happens anyway jfl

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will read later my nigga, your 17 on steroid cycle lucky little boy
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i will be on in august im going on vacation next week for 5 weeks:02Pat:

my irls cant know about ts roids tho
 
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zennn said:
UPDATED: My Journey at 17 ​

Hey everyone,

scary movie hello GIF


Some of you might remember my very first thread ("16 year old beginner steroid cycle"). i was a little retarded and wanted to run 200mg test e and 6-8iu hgh.

Sad Feelings GIF


Here is my final roadmap for the next 6 months:​

Seeing how i tolerate Gear (Months 1–3)

For the first 12 weeks, the focus is on building a solid foundation of lean tissue and letting the HGH fully saturate. A temporary water bloat in the face is consciously accepted during this phase.

Testosterone Enanthate (Test E): 350 mg / week
Human Growth Hormone (HGH): 4 IU / daily

Dimorphism Cut (Months 4–6)

At week 13, the protocol shifts completely. Testosterone is dropped to trt dose to crush estrogen conversion, flushing out all facial bloating and subcutaneous water. Masteron combined with a micro dose of Tren will be deployed

Testosterone Enanthate (Test E): Dropped to 140 mg / week (TRT base to eliminate Estrogen + Tren Prolactin/Progesterone synergy/Gyno risk)

Masteron Propionate (Mast P): 200 mg / week (Short ester used as an immediate emergency rip cord in case of DHT sides)

Trenbolon Acetate (Tren A): 70 mg / week (Microdose for maximum hardness and nutrient partitioning with minimal psychological impact)

Human Growth Hormone (HGH): Continued at 4 IU / daily

Ancillaries

1. Daily Baseline Support (Preventative Protocol)
These are deployed from Day 1 to proactively protect cardiovascular health, organs, and joints.

T4: for thyroid, 50mcg / daily

Magnesium glycinate: 400mg / daily

Retatrutide: microdosed at 1-2mg / weekly
for insulin sensitivity and bloodpressure

Telmisartan: 40 mg / daily
Crucial for cardiovascular protection. It blocks the AT1 receptor, manages blood pressure (vital on HGH and Trenbolone), protects renal function, and improves insulin sensitivity.

Vitex (Chasteberry): 400 mg / daily
Deployed immediately at the start of Phase 2. Functions as a natural dopamine agonist to keep Tren induced prolactin spikes in check, preventing prolactin based gyno and mood swings.

BPC-157 & TB-500: 500 mcg daily (BPC) / 3.5 mg weekly (TB)
Synergizes with HGH to keep tendons and joints fully lubricated and repaired once Estrogen drops in Phase 2.

High Dose Omega3: 4g / daily
Essential for endothelial and lipid protection, as both Tren and Masteron heavily skew HDL/LDL ratios.

TUDCA / NAC: 500 mg TUDCA / 1200 mg NAC / daily
Liver support to manage stress from injectable compounds and overall metabolic load.

Aromasin (Exemestan) 12.5 mg (half a tablet) every 3 to 4 days until symptoms clear.
to monitor e2, the testosterone aromatizes.

Cabergolin (Caber) 0.25 mg to 0.5 mg once a week (usually 1-2 doses are enough to reset the baseline).
When to use:** If prolactin completely bypasses Vitex protection (symptoms: nipple lactation, extreme lethargy, sudden ED). Extremely potent compound.

Berberine 500 mg of Berberine taken before high carb meals.
for insulin sensitivity.



2. Hair Loss Prevention
Since Masteron and Trenbolon are highly androgenic and cannot be blocked by oral Finasteride, a direct topical approach at the scalp level is required.

RU58841 (Topical Anti Androgen) 50 mg / daily
The most critical compound for this specific stack. It acts as a topical androgen receptor antagonist on the scalp. It physically blocks Masteron and Trenbolon from binding to your hair follicles without altering your systemic hormones.

Ketoconazole Shampoo (Nizoral 2%) 2-3x / week
A mild topical anti androgen and anti fungal. It helps clear scalp inflammation and removes local DHT/androgen buildup from the scalp surface. Leave it in for 5-10 minutes before rinsing.

Oral Minoxidil: 5 mg / daily​



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UPDATED: My Journey at 17 ​

Hey everyone,

scary movie hello GIF


Some of you might remember my very first thread ("16 year old beginner steroid cycle"). i was a little retarded and wanted to run 200mg test e and 6-8iu hgh.

Sad Feelings GIF


Here is my final roadmap for the next 6 months:​

Seeing how i tolerate Gear (Months 1–3)

For the first 12 weeks, the focus is on building a solid foundation of lean tissue and letting the HGH fully saturate. A temporary water bloat in the face is consciously accepted during this phase.

Testosterone Enanthate (Test E): 350 mg / week
Human Growth Hormone (HGH): 4 IU / daily

Dimorphism Cut (Months 4–6)

At week 13, the protocol shifts completely. Testosterone is dropped to trt dose to crush estrogen conversion, flushing out all facial bloating and subcutaneous water. Masteron combined with a micro dose of Tren will be deployed

Testosterone Enanthate (Test E): Dropped to 140 mg / week (TRT base to eliminate Estrogen + Tren Prolactin/Progesterone synergy/Gyno risk)

Masteron Propionate (Mast P): 200 mg / week (Short ester used as an immediate emergency rip cord in case of DHT sides)

Trenbolon Acetate (Tren A): 70 mg / week (Microdose for maximum hardness and nutrient partitioning with minimal psychological impact)

Human Growth Hormone (HGH): Continued at 4 IU / daily

Ancillaries

1. Daily Baseline Support (Preventative Protocol)
These are deployed from Day 1 to proactively protect cardiovascular health, organs, and joints.

T4: for thyroid, 50mcg / daily

Magnesium glycinate: 400mg / daily

Retatrutide: microdosed at 1-2mg / weekly
for insulin sensitivity and bloodpressure

Telmisartan: 40 mg / daily
Crucial for cardiovascular protection. It blocks the AT1 receptor, manages blood pressure (vital on HGH and Trenbolone), protects renal function, and improves insulin sensitivity.

Vitex (Chasteberry): 400 mg / daily
Deployed immediately at the start of Phase 2. Functions as a natural dopamine agonist to keep Tren induced prolactin spikes in check, preventing prolactin based gyno and mood swings.

BPC-157 & TB-500: 500 mcg daily (BPC) / 3.5 mg weekly (TB)
Synergizes with HGH to keep tendons and joints fully lubricated and repaired once Estrogen drops in Phase 2.

High Dose Omega3: 4g / daily
Essential for endothelial and lipid protection, as both Tren and Masteron heavily skew HDL/LDL ratios.

TUDCA / NAC: 500 mg TUDCA / 1200 mg NAC / daily
Liver support to manage stress from injectable compounds and overall metabolic load.

Aromasin (Exemestan) 12.5 mg (half a tablet) every 3 to 4 days until symptoms clear.
to monitor e2, the testosterone aromatizes.

Cabergolin (Caber) 0.25 mg to 0.5 mg once a week (usually 1-2 doses are enough to reset the baseline).
When to use:** If prolactin completely bypasses Vitex protection (symptoms: nipple lactation, extreme lethargy, sudden ED). Extremely potent compound.

Berberine 500 mg of Berberine taken before high carb meals.
for insulin sensitivity.



2. Hair Loss Prevention
Since Masteron and Trenbolon are highly androgenic and cannot be blocked by oral Finasteride, a direct topical approach at the scalp level is required.

RU58841 (Topical Anti Androgen) 50 mg / daily
The most critical compound for this specific stack. It acts as a topical androgen receptor antagonist on the scalp. It physically blocks Masteron and Trenbolon from binding to your hair follicles without altering your systemic hormones.

Ketoconazole Shampoo (Nizoral 2%) 2-3x / week
A mild topical anti androgen and anti fungal. It helps clear scalp inflammation and removes local DHT/androgen buildup from the scalp surface. Leave it in for 5-10 minutes before rinsing.

Oral Minoxidil: 5 mg / daily​



i wont get bloods done but nothing ever happens anyway jfl

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High iq hair stack
mirin
Do bloodwork at least a simple panel:Comfy:
 
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UPDATED: My Journey at 17 ​

Hey everyone,

scary movie hello GIF


Some of you might remember my very first thread ("16 year old beginner steroid cycle"). i was a little retarded and wanted to run 200mg test e and 6-8iu hgh.

Sad Feelings GIF


Here is my final roadmap for the next 6 months:​

Seeing how i tolerate Gear (Months 1–3)

For the first 12 weeks, the focus is on building a solid foundation of lean tissue and letting the HGH fully saturate. A temporary water bloat in the face is consciously accepted during this phase.

Testosterone Enanthate (Test E): 350 mg / week
Human Growth Hormone (HGH): 4 IU / daily

Dimorphism Cut (Months 4–6)

At week 13, the protocol shifts completely. Testosterone is dropped to trt dose to crush estrogen conversion, flushing out all facial bloating and subcutaneous water. Masteron combined with a micro dose of Tren will be deployed

Testosterone Enanthate (Test E): Dropped to 140 mg / week (TRT base to eliminate Estrogen + Tren Prolactin/Progesterone synergy/Gyno risk)

Masteron Propionate (Mast P): 200 mg / week (Short ester used as an immediate emergency rip cord in case of DHT sides)

Trenbolon Acetate (Tren A): 70 mg / week (Microdose for maximum hardness and nutrient partitioning with minimal psychological impact)

Human Growth Hormone (HGH): Continued at 4 IU / daily

Ancillaries

1. Daily Baseline Support (Preventative Protocol)
These are deployed from Day 1 to proactively protect cardiovascular health, organs, and joints.

T4: for thyroid, 50mcg / daily

Magnesium glycinate: 400mg / daily

Retatrutide: microdosed at 1-2mg / weekly
for insulin sensitivity and bloodpressure

Telmisartan: 40 mg / daily
Crucial for cardiovascular protection. It blocks the AT1 receptor, manages blood pressure (vital on HGH and Trenbolone), protects renal function, and improves insulin sensitivity.

Vitex (Chasteberry): 400 mg / daily
Deployed immediately at the start of Phase 2. Functions as a natural dopamine agonist to keep Tren induced prolactin spikes in check, preventing prolactin based gyno and mood swings.

BPC-157 & TB-500: 500 mcg daily (BPC) / 3.5 mg weekly (TB)
Synergizes with HGH to keep tendons and joints fully lubricated and repaired once Estrogen drops in Phase 2.

High Dose Omega3: 4g / daily
Essential for endothelial and lipid protection, as both Tren and Masteron heavily skew HDL/LDL ratios.

TUDCA / NAC: 500 mg TUDCA / 1200 mg NAC / daily
Liver support to manage stress from injectable compounds and overall metabolic load.

Aromasin (Exemestan) 12.5 mg (half a tablet) every 3 to 4 days until symptoms clear.
to monitor e2, the testosterone aromatizes.

Cabergolin (Caber) 0.25 mg to 0.5 mg once a week (usually 1-2 doses are enough to reset the baseline).
When to use:** If prolactin completely bypasses Vitex protection (symptoms: nipple lactation, extreme lethargy, sudden ED). Extremely potent compound.

Berberine 500 mg of Berberine taken before high carb meals.
for insulin sensitivity.



2. Hair Loss Prevention
Since Masteron and Trenbolon are highly androgenic and cannot be blocked by oral Finasteride, a direct topical approach at the scalp level is required.

RU58841 (Topical Anti Androgen) 50 mg / daily
The most critical compound for this specific stack. It acts as a topical androgen receptor antagonist on the scalp. It physically blocks Masteron and Trenbolon from binding to your hair follicles without altering your systemic hormones.

Ketoconazole Shampoo (Nizoral 2%) 2-3x / week
A mild topical anti androgen and anti fungal. It helps clear scalp inflammation and removes local DHT/androgen buildup from the scalp surface. Leave it in for 5-10 minutes before rinsing.

Oral Minoxidil: 5 mg / daily​



i wont get bloods done but nothing ever happens anyway jfl

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Nigga u do all this shit on how to “ascend” but u wont do the most basic shit of running blood tests with heavily damaging compounds. Genius my man, absolutely.
 
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UPDATED: My Journey at 17 ​

Hey everyone,

scary movie hello GIF


Some of you might remember my very first thread ("16 year old beginner steroid cycle"). i was a little retarded and wanted to run 200mg test e and 6-8iu hgh.

Sad Feelings GIF


Here is my final roadmap for the next 6 months:​

Seeing how i tolerate Gear (Months 1–3)

For the first 12 weeks, the focus is on building a solid foundation of lean tissue and letting the HGH fully saturate. A temporary water bloat in the face is consciously accepted during this phase.

Testosterone Enanthate (Test E): 350 mg / week
Human Growth Hormone (HGH): 4 IU / daily

Dimorphism Cut (Months 4–6)

At week 13, the protocol shifts completely. Testosterone is dropped to trt dose to crush estrogen conversion, flushing out all facial bloating and subcutaneous water. Masteron combined with a micro dose of Tren will be deployed

Testosterone Enanthate (Test E): Dropped to 140 mg / week (TRT base to eliminate Estrogen + Tren Prolactin/Progesterone synergy/Gyno risk)

Masteron Propionate (Mast P): 200 mg / week (Short ester used as an immediate emergency rip cord in case of DHT sides)

Trenbolon Acetate (Tren A): 70 mg / week (Microdose for maximum hardness and nutrient partitioning with minimal psychological impact)

Human Growth Hormone (HGH): Continued at 4 IU / daily

Ancillaries

1. Daily Baseline Support (Preventative Protocol)
These are deployed from Day 1 to proactively protect cardiovascular health, organs, and joints.

T4: for thyroid, 50mcg / daily

Magnesium glycinate: 400mg / daily

Retatrutide: microdosed at 1-2mg / weekly
for insulin sensitivity and bloodpressure

Telmisartan: 40 mg / daily
Crucial for cardiovascular protection. It blocks the AT1 receptor, manages blood pressure (vital on HGH and Trenbolone), protects renal function, and improves insulin sensitivity.

Vitex (Chasteberry): 400 mg / daily
Deployed immediately at the start of Phase 2. Functions as a natural dopamine agonist to keep Tren induced prolactin spikes in check, preventing prolactin based gyno and mood swings.

BPC-157 & TB-500: 500 mcg daily (BPC) / 3.5 mg weekly (TB)
Synergizes with HGH to keep tendons and joints fully lubricated and repaired once Estrogen drops in Phase 2.

High Dose Omega3: 4g / daily
Essential for endothelial and lipid protection, as both Tren and Masteron heavily skew HDL/LDL ratios.

TUDCA / NAC: 500 mg TUDCA / 1200 mg NAC / daily
Liver support to manage stress from injectable compounds and overall metabolic load.

Aromasin (Exemestan) 12.5 mg (half a tablet) every 3 to 4 days until symptoms clear.
to monitor e2, the testosterone aromatizes.

Cabergolin (Caber) 0.25 mg to 0.5 mg once a week (usually 1-2 doses are enough to reset the baseline).
When to use:** If prolactin completely bypasses Vitex protection (symptoms: nipple lactation, extreme lethargy, sudden ED). Extremely potent compound.

Berberine 500 mg of Berberine taken before high carb meals.
for insulin sensitivity.



2. Hair Loss Prevention
Since Masteron and Trenbolon are highly androgenic and cannot be blocked by oral Finasteride, a direct topical approach at the scalp level is required.

RU58841 (Topical Anti Androgen) 50 mg / daily
The most critical compound for this specific stack. It acts as a topical androgen receptor antagonist on the scalp. It physically blocks Masteron and Trenbolon from binding to your hair follicles without altering your systemic hormones.

Ketoconazole Shampoo (Nizoral 2%) 2-3x / week
A mild topical anti androgen and anti fungal. It helps clear scalp inflammation and removes local DHT/androgen buildup from the scalp surface. Leave it in for 5-10 minutes before rinsing.

Oral Minoxidil: 5 mg / daily​



i wont get bloods done but nothing ever happens anyway jfl

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yo, I've been wanting to hop on something like what you're running, but I got a few questions. On the hair loss side, do I need to use minoxidil? I've heard once you stop it you shed the new growth if ykwim, and have you seen any real progress or sides?
 
zennn said:
UPDATED: My Journey at 17 ​

Hey everyone,

scary movie hello GIF


Some of you might remember my very first thread ("16 year old beginner steroid cycle"). i was a little retarded and wanted to run 200mg test e and 6-8iu hgh.

Sad Feelings GIF


Here is my final roadmap for the next 6 months:​

Seeing how i tolerate Gear (Months 1–3)

For the first 12 weeks, the focus is on building a solid foundation of lean tissue and letting the HGH fully saturate. A temporary water bloat in the face is consciously accepted during this phase.

Testosterone Enanthate (Test E): 350 mg / week
Human Growth Hormone (HGH): 4 IU / daily

Dimorphism Cut (Months 4–6)

At week 13, the protocol shifts completely. Testosterone is dropped to trt dose to crush estrogen conversion, flushing out all facial bloating and subcutaneous water. Masteron combined with a micro dose of Tren will be deployed

Testosterone Enanthate (Test E): Dropped to 140 mg / week (TRT base to eliminate Estrogen + Tren Prolactin/Progesterone synergy/Gyno risk)

Masteron Propionate (Mast P): 200 mg / week (Short ester used as an immediate emergency rip cord in case of DHT sides)

Trenbolon Acetate (Tren A): 70 mg / week (Microdose for maximum hardness and nutrient partitioning with minimal psychological impact)

Human Growth Hormone (HGH): Continued at 4 IU / daily

Ancillaries

1. Daily Baseline Support (Preventative Protocol)
These are deployed from Day 1 to proactively protect cardiovascular health, organs, and joints.

T4: for thyroid, 50mcg / daily

Magnesium glycinate: 400mg / daily

Retatrutide: microdosed at 1-2mg / weekly
for insulin sensitivity and bloodpressure

Telmisartan: 40 mg / daily
Crucial for cardiovascular protection. It blocks the AT1 receptor, manages blood pressure (vital on HGH and Trenbolone), protects renal function, and improves insulin sensitivity.

Vitex (Chasteberry): 400 mg / daily
Deployed immediately at the start of Phase 2. Functions as a natural dopamine agonist to keep Tren induced prolactin spikes in check, preventing prolactin based gyno and mood swings.

BPC-157 & TB-500: 500 mcg daily (BPC) / 3.5 mg weekly (TB)
Synergizes with HGH to keep tendons and joints fully lubricated and repaired once Estrogen drops in Phase 2.

High Dose Omega3: 4g / daily
Essential for endothelial and lipid protection, as both Tren and Masteron heavily skew HDL/LDL ratios.

TUDCA / NAC: 500 mg TUDCA / 1200 mg NAC / daily
Liver support to manage stress from injectable compounds and overall metabolic load.

Aromasin (Exemestan) 12.5 mg (half a tablet) every 3 to 4 days until symptoms clear.
to monitor e2, the testosterone aromatizes.

Cabergolin (Caber) 0.25 mg to 0.5 mg once a week (usually 1-2 doses are enough to reset the baseline).
When to use:** If prolactin completely bypasses Vitex protection (symptoms: nipple lactation, extreme lethargy, sudden ED). Extremely potent compound.

Berberine 500 mg of Berberine taken before high carb meals.
for insulin sensitivity.



2. Hair Loss Prevention
Since Masteron and Trenbolon are highly androgenic and cannot be blocked by oral Finasteride, a direct topical approach at the scalp level is required.

RU58841 (Topical Anti Androgen) 50 mg / daily
The most critical compound for this specific stack. It acts as a topical androgen receptor antagonist on the scalp. It physically blocks Masteron and Trenbolon from binding to your hair follicles without altering your systemic hormones.

Ketoconazole Shampoo (Nizoral 2%) 2-3x / week
A mild topical anti androgen and anti fungal. It helps clear scalp inflammation and removes local DHT/androgen buildup from the scalp surface. Leave it in for 5-10 minutes before rinsing.

Oral Minoxidil: 5 mg / daily​



i wont get bloods done but nothing ever happens anyway jfl

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w dimo stack, u could possibly add in proviorion aswell. dont even rlly need to cycle heard of guys taking it year long.
 
jewpizza said:
yo, I've been wanting to hop on something like what you're running, but I got a few questions. On the hair loss side, do I need to use minoxidil? I've heard once you stop it you shed the new growth if ykwim, and have you seen any real progress or sides?
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lots of hair prevention: start w topical min, if u notice balding or thinning add in oral min and ru58841. if u still see it after that (probably wont) ide use fin and dut as a last resort. (fin and dut can potentially get rid of the goal of increasing dimo). Also add in ketoconazole shampoo
 
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w dimo stack, u could possibly add in proviorion aswell. dont even rlly need to cycle heard of guys taking it year long.
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isnt proviron almost the same as mast why add it?
 
ready to be infertile at 30, it was over from the start.
 
zennn said:
UPDATED: My Journey at 17 ​

Hey everyone,

scary movie hello GIF


Some of you might remember my very first thread ("16 year old beginner steroid cycle"). i was a little retarded and wanted to run 200mg test e and 6-8iu hgh.

Sad Feelings GIF


Here is my final roadmap for the next 6 months:​

Seeing how i tolerate Gear (Months 1–3)

For the first 12 weeks, the focus is on building a solid foundation of lean tissue and letting the HGH fully saturate. A temporary water bloat in the face is consciously accepted during this phase.

Testosterone Enanthate (Test E): 350 mg / week
Human Growth Hormone (HGH): 4 IU / daily

Dimorphism Cut (Months 4–6)

At week 13, the protocol shifts completely. Testosterone is dropped to trt dose to crush estrogen conversion, flushing out all facial bloating and subcutaneous water. Masteron combined with a micro dose of Tren will be deployed

Testosterone Enanthate (Test E): Dropped to 140 mg / week (TRT base to eliminate Estrogen + Tren Prolactin/Progesterone synergy/Gyno risk)

Masteron Propionate (Mast P): 200 mg / week (Short ester used as an immediate emergency rip cord in case of DHT sides)

Trenbolon Acetate (Tren A): 70 mg / week (Microdose for maximum hardness and nutrient partitioning with minimal psychological impact)

Human Growth Hormone (HGH): Continued at 4 IU / daily

Ancillaries

1. Daily Baseline Support (Preventative Protocol)
These are deployed from Day 1 to proactively protect cardiovascular health, organs, and joints.

T4: for thyroid, 50mcg / daily

Magnesium glycinate: 400mg / daily

Retatrutide: microdosed at 1-2mg / weekly
for insulin sensitivity and bloodpressure

Telmisartan: 40 mg / daily
Crucial for cardiovascular protection. It blocks the AT1 receptor, manages blood pressure (vital on HGH and Trenbolone), protects renal function, and improves insulin sensitivity.

Vitex (Chasteberry): 400 mg / daily
Deployed immediately at the start of Phase 2. Functions as a natural dopamine agonist to keep Tren induced prolactin spikes in check, preventing prolactin based gyno and mood swings.

BPC-157 & TB-500: 500 mcg daily (BPC) / 3.5 mg weekly (TB)
Synergizes with HGH to keep tendons and joints fully lubricated and repaired once Estrogen drops in Phase 2.

High Dose Omega3: 4g / daily
Essential for endothelial and lipid protection, as both Tren and Masteron heavily skew HDL/LDL ratios.

TUDCA / NAC: 500 mg TUDCA / 1200 mg NAC / daily
Liver support to manage stress from injectable compounds and overall metabolic load.

Aromasin (Exemestan) 12.5 mg (half a tablet) every 3 to 4 days until symptoms clear.
to monitor e2, the testosterone aromatizes.

Cabergolin (Caber) 0.25 mg to 0.5 mg once a week (usually 1-2 doses are enough to reset the baseline).
When to use:** If prolactin completely bypasses Vitex protection (symptoms: nipple lactation, extreme lethargy, sudden ED). Extremely potent compound.

Berberine 500 mg of Berberine taken before high carb meals.
for insulin sensitivity.



2. Hair Loss Prevention
Since Masteron and Trenbolon are highly androgenic and cannot be blocked by oral Finasteride, a direct topical approach at the scalp level is required.

RU58841 (Topical Anti Androgen) 50 mg / daily
The most critical compound for this specific stack. It acts as a topical androgen receptor antagonist on the scalp. It physically blocks Masteron and Trenbolon from binding to your hair follicles without altering your systemic hormones.

Ketoconazole Shampoo (Nizoral 2%) 2-3x / week
A mild topical anti androgen and anti fungal. It helps clear scalp inflammation and removes local DHT/androgen buildup from the scalp surface. Leave it in for 5-10 minutes before rinsing.

Oral Minoxidil: 5 mg / daily​



i wont get bloods done but nothing ever happens anyway jfl

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did u run any ai ?
 
are you planning to crash e2?
 
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definetly not no
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ok good i misread you dropping to trt dosages as crashing e2 for some reason, planning to do a dimorphism only cycle aswell :pepeLove:
 
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ok good i misread you dropping to trt dosages as crashing e2 for some reason, planning to do a dimorphism only cycle aswell :pepeLove:
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mirin and also ill do test tren gh only no mast becuz i want to keep hair
 
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mirin and also ill do test tren gh only no mast becuz i want to keep hair
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dht derivatives are definitely gold standard for dimorphism tho
 
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dht derivatives are definitely gold standard for dimorphism tho
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i know, i will try anavar as a kickstart and also i got enough time i can always order more yk
 
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i know, i will try anavar as a kickstart and also i got enough time i can always order more yk
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i dont got that luxury alr 71 :feelswhy:
 
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throw out GH
n you'll be ight
not enough ancillaries
 
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throw out GH
n you'll be ight
not enough ancillaries
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Gh has great synergy with Aas why should I remove it?

And I got new/more ancillaries + mast is removed from stack
 
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idk why you'd ever touch any dht deriv let alone mast if you give a singular fuck about your hair. You are literally permanently raping your hair for a mild, temporary cosmetic effect. 50mg's of ru won't do shit against mast + tren.
 
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idk why you'd ever touch any dht deriv let alone mast if you give a singular fuck about your hair. You are literally permanently raping your hair for a mild, temporary cosmetic effect. 50mg's of ru won't do shit against mast + tren.
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Gh has great synergy with Aas why should I remove it?

And I got new/more ancillaries + mast is removed from stack
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Gh has great synergy with Aas why should I remove it?

And I got new/more ancillaries + mast is removed from stack
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didn't see this, apologies. Keep the gh and ignore that retard @Nardicus101
 
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Gh has great synergy with Aas why should I remove it?
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0 data showing n increase in IGF-1 above physiological ranges increase MPS (Muscle Protien Synthesis)
infact it has been debunked in studies where they gave people who had muscle atrophy HGH, n it hardly did fuck for them
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pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Anabolic processes in human skeletal muscle: restoring the identities of growth hormone and testosterone - PubMed

Testosterone supplementation acts via numerous mechanisms as a highly potent anabolic agent to skeletal muscle. Although growth hormone (GH) strongly affects collagen synthesis and lipolysis, as well as increasing lean body mass, it is not anabolic toward the contractile (ie, myofibrillar)...
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
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pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Anabolic processes in human skeletal muscle: restoring the identities of growth hormone and testosterone - PubMed

Testosterone supplementation acts via numerous mechanisms as a highly potent anabolic agent to skeletal muscle. Although growth hormone (GH) strongly affects collagen synthesis and lipolysis, as well as increasing lean body mass, it is not anabolic toward the contractile (ie, myofibrillar)...
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
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n the synergy is all mechanisms that sounded promising but got debunked in studies

ALL GH is doing is
maybe helping with sleep ? but lembroexant exist
maybe helping with joints ? but NPP, and anavar exist
maybe helping with recovery? but that's relative n comes down to workout frequency with food n insulin being even better at it,
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didn't see this, apologies. Keep the gh and ignore that retard @Nardicus101
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JFL, genuinely a Pseudo-Intellectual :feelskek::feelskek::feelskek::feelskek::feelskek::feelskek:

Keep injecting that overpriced GoySlop that does nothing except bloat's you n make your skin oily n nose bigger
"Muh fountain of youth n collagen" meanwhile every bodybuilder in there mom's looks aged to death despite running 8IU a day :feelswhy:
 
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Trenscension said:
idk why you'd ever touch any dht deriv let alone mast if you give a singular fuck about your hair. You are literally permanently raping your hair for a mild, temporary cosmetic effect. 50mg's of ru won't do shit against mast + tren.
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Both are less adrogenic than DHT itself when binding the hair follicle AR, with that being said you increasing your Dut dose should suffice but Mast is overpriced weak oil anyway's, jus run TRT dose with tren + var

n throw out RU, n switch to topical KX-895, mogs RU to death in term's of binding affinity
 
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0 data showing n increase in IGF-1 above physiological ranges increase MPS (Muscle Protien Synthesis)
infact it has been debunked in studies where they gave people who had muscle atrophy HGH, n it hardly did fuck for them
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when has literally anyone ever claimed that hgh increases mps, or that gh monotherapy will yield any amount of growth whatsoever

igf-1 itself works by binding to itself and thereafter activating pi3k & mtor which is legitimately the main mechanism for the true assembly of proteins & amino acids

no fucking shit nothing will happen if you dont pair this with ar stimulation from aas, hgh only works synergistically with aas

aas on its own forces existing muscle fiber nuclei to grow which puts a practical cap on fiber growth whilst hgh blah blah blah -> satellite cell activation or whatever the fuck -> donating more nuclei to said muscle fiber to facilitate more growth from your anabolics

if you create more room for growth and do nothing to take advantage of that higher capacity, obviously nothing will happen

gh will even further increase ar density to synergize with your roids EVEN MORE than it already has (idk how tbh but feel free to fact check ^^)

even if we're ignoring all of this gh undeniably acts as a godsent supportive compound for its nutrient partioning, soft tissue support, sleep benefits, etc. why would you NOT run gh for literally any reason other than financial burden??

do you seriously think that ifbb caliber bodybuilders are blasting 20iu+ gh w/ no slin for hypertrophy? no, its for the nutrient partioning effect alone you fucking retarded pig

running any cycle without gh is literally limiting your growth potential, the best way i can describe it is as if your muscles are empty cups of water. traditional roids will fill these cups effectively, but hgh adds MORE cups that the roids can fill to ultimately get MORE water (muscle)

if you add more cups without any more water, fuckall will happen

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JFL, genuinely a Pseudo-Intellectual :feelskek::feelskek::feelskek::feelskek::feelskek::feelskek:
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so fucking ironic, you're ignoring THOUSANDS anecdotes RELEVANT to the content of peds and going off of studies IRRELEVANT to this.

im sure you're just smarter than everyone else bro, nobody else has ever discovered your 2 shitty pubmed studies or ever thought of this

can you even articulate how utterly retarded you sound right now?
 
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