17(M) (GROWTH PLATES OPEN NOT TRYING TO CLOSE THEM)Just bought enclomiphine, what should i stack it with to get the best and healthiest results?

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Why do you even want enclo at 17
 
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MA_ascender said:
How is enclo gonna help lmaooo
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Lh boosting and anti estrogen. I dont wanna burden my health but i must make a good stack.
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You're 17, most of your major growth plates have closed

You will gain half an inch max, even if you were to take a entire pharmacy of drugs
 
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udeactive said:
You're 17, most of your major growth plates have closed

You will gain half an inch max, even if you were to take a entire pharmacy of drugs
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im not having this conversation again. My vertical growth plates are open just gove me the info
 
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Enclo would close your plates idiot
 
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HTM said:
how if it lowers estrogen and boosts testosterone? + i know how to hghmaxx
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This forum is full of copecels trying to get someone genetically superior to cope😂 i probably wont stop growing in height until im abt 24 💀 thats the last time im going to repeat that. My Fathers a chad who looked exactly like me but more like a girl at my age
 
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HTM said:
So They wouldnt close my growth plates? I was pretty sure enclo is the safest way to go for that
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Enclo will close your plates in a matter of weeks
 
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HTM said:
I read that it lowers estrogen like an aromatase inhibitor and increases lh wich is what chads have a lot of. But ok
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No lmaoooo it does increase lh (if you have already low T or secondary hypogonadism) but it barely has an effect if your levels are normal. It increases estrogen like crazy and even acts like estrogen in the growth plate cells. If it was worth it everyone would take it
 
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MA_ascender said:
No lmaoooo it does increase lh (if you have already low T or secondary hypogonadism) but it barely has an effect if your levels are normal. It increases estrogen like crazy and even acts like estrogen in the growth plate cells. If it was worth it everyone would take it
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I was pretty sure it crushes your estrogen levels but damn. Alr
 
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Enclomiphene lowers igf-1 so if anything it’ll make you grow less.
 
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HTM said:
I dont remember on forum probs
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It just raises test but unlike some other things it doesn’t prevent that test from aromatizing so yeah you’d get higher testosterone from it but you’d also raise your estrogen making the plates fuse quicker, that paired with the decrease in igf1 would result in it actually making you less tall in the end
 
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bubba_ge3 said:
It just raises test but unlike some other things it doesn’t prevent that test from aromatizing so yeah you’d get higher testosterone from it but you’d also raise your estrogen making the plates fuse quicker, that paired with the decrease in igf1 would result in it actually making you less tall in the end
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I need good cycle advice 🙏please
 
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HTM said:
Thats true but do u think i can take it with mk677 and View attachment 3101276? I just need height and frame gains at least
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don’t really know what that second one is but it’s probably supposed to decrease estrogen, though it’s probably easier and like 100x more effective to just use an AI like Aromasin, as for MK that could work but so far the literature on it can be a bit confusing sometimes and while it most likely does increase igf1 and GH you have to remember that it also increases the chance for insulin resistance especially at higher dosages so it’d be preferable to use something like Recombinant HGH as that is for sure going to increase GH and igf1 more than MK at the right doses which would make it more worth the risk
 
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bubba_ge3 said:
don’t really know what that second one is but it’s probably supposed to decrease estrogen, though it’s probably easier and like 100x more effective to just use an AI like Aromasin, as for MK that could work but so far the literature on it can be a bit confusing sometimes and while it most likely does increase igf1 and GH you have to remember that it also increases the chance for insulin resistance especially at higher dosages so it’d be preferable to use something like Recombinant HGH as that is for sure going to increase GH and igf1 more than MK at the right doses which would make it more worth the risk
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Oh believe me i know how to take mk677. Im not always a gatekeeping piece of shit. Just take slin pills and do blood glucose testing here and there
 
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Well either way you should probably use Aromasin as I’ve never even heard of that other thing, besides since Aromasin steroidal it won’t fuck with your bones as much and as an added bonus to lowering estrogen it’ll even increase testosterone by a significant amount
 
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bubba_ge3 said:
Well either way you should probably use Aromasin as I’ve never even heard of that other thing, besides since Aromasin steroidal it won’t fuck with your bones as much and as an added bonus to lowering estrogen it’ll even increase testosterone by a significant amount
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I truly just wanna know what the best cycle is to ascend for somone who is still growing
 
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udeactive said:
You're 17, most of your major growth plates have closed

You will gain half an inch max, even if you were to take a entire pharmacy of drugs
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shut the fuck up you stupid fucking ape , every bodys plates close at different times
 
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don't take anything man your just a late bloomer, these shit only work if you have a deficiency, you can take aromatese tho but you should wait till 18 cause its not gonna close before that
 
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