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17 year old full stack - high iq advice wanted
Background
17, male, ~78kg, 6-day PPL. fucking 5'8 want to kms. Primary goals running in parallel: body recomp (simultaneous fat loss + muscle gain), cognitive optimisation, and aesthetics (skin, hair, facial development). Secondary goal is height maximisation, bone age scan confirmed plates slightly open, so there's still a window. Three-mechanism height stack: rHGH for IGF-1/chondrocyte proliferation, anastrozole-class AI for epiphyseal fusion delay via estrogen suppression. Recomp macros ~2,700 kcal, ~165g protein.
looking source for erda/infig and ky
ANABOLICS & ANCILLARIES
On-Cycle Compounds
Testosterone Enanthate — 200mg/wk
Trenbolone Acetate — 200mg/wk (20mg ED) from week 5, optional bump to 250mg/wk from week 9 if week 6 bloods are clean. IM ED. Ace ester clears in 5–7 days so it can be dropped fast if sides get bad.
Anastrozole — 1mg EOD (nuked e2)
Cabergoline — 0.25mg twice weekly from week 5 day 1 (first Tren injection). D2 agonist, mandatory for prolactin management from progestogenic Tren activity.
HGH — 4 IU SC abdominal pinch, 60 min pre-sleep. Steps to 6 IU from week 11 once Tren has been stable for 6 weeks (avoids stacking peak insulin resistance from both compounds simultaneously). At 6 IU the insulin resistance side effect is significant and needs active management (see MOTS-c).
HCG — 500 IU EOD (dont want dry dick and balls)
Anavar — 25mg/day
Key Bloodwork Targets
- Hematocrit: <52%
- Fasting glucose: <5.5 mmol/L
- IGF-1: upper quartile of reference, not above range
- Prolactin: within male reference
- ALT/AST: <3x ULN
PROTECTIVE / SUPPORT LAYER
TUDCA — 500mg morning with food. Hepatoprotective bile acid, mandatory with any oral androgens. Non-negotiable.NAC — 600mg morning with food
Telmisartan — 40mg morning. ARB antihypertensive, PPAR-delta fat oxidation, renoprotective. Manages Test-driven BP elevation.
Tadalafil — 5mg daily, morning. Primary rationale here is cardiac (LVH attenuation) and BP support synergistic with Telmisartan, not just erectile. Nasal congestion is a known PDE5i side effect — saline rinse preferred, oxymetazoline and pseudoephedrine are contraindicated given the Telmisartan/Tadalafil stack.
Omega-3 (EPA/DHA) — 4g/day split across meals. Lipid protection, anti-inflammatory, and covers the DHA requirement for the MIT triad in the nootropic layer.
Citrus Bergamot — 500mg evening. LDL reduction, HDL support. Upgrade to Rosuvastatin 5mg if LDL >4.5 mmol/L on labs.
Milk Thistle — ~600mg, hepatic support alongside TUDCA during oral AAS phase.
VITAMIN STACK
Vitamin D3 — 15,000 IU + K2 MK-7 400mcg morning with fat. D3 is a direct co-factor for testosterone synthesis and AR sensitivity. K2 is the mandatory calcium-directing partner, keeps it out of arteries during AAS.Vitamin C — 1000mg 30–60 min pre-training as a collagen co-factor (prolyl hydroxylase). Timed per Shaw et al.
Vitamin E — 200 IU mixed tocopherols evening with food. Lipid-soluble antioxidant, membrane protection. Mixed tocopherols only, not synthetic dl-alpha.
B12 Methylcobalamin — 1000mcg sublingual morning.
B6 P-5-P — 50mg morning. Active form. Secondary prolactin modulation (B6 deficiency independently elevates prolactin) plus methylation support.
Methylfolate 5-MTHF — 800mcg morning. Methylation cycle, homocysteine reduction — elevated androgens increase cardiovascular homocysteine risk.
Zinc — 25mg elemental evening, away from calcium. Testosterone synthesis co-factor, aromatase modulation, depleted by heavy training.
Magnesium Glycinate — 400mg evening. Sleep quality for GH pulse, mild SHBG reduction, GI-friendly form.
Selenium — 100mcg morning. Glutathione peroxidase co-factor, thyroid function. Don't exceed 400mcg total including dietary sources.
Boron — 10mg morning. SHBG reduction, Vitamin D absorption enhancement.
Ubiquinol — 200mg breakfast with fat. Reduced CoQ10, electron transport chain, primary mitochondrial antioxidant.
NOOTROPIC STACK - helps with tren neurotoxicity + iqmaxxing
Semax — 300–600mcg intranasal. BDNF/NGF upregulation via ACTH analogue, hits CNS directly via olfactory epithelium before gut activates. Most important timing window in the stack.NMN — 500mg sublingual, hold under tongue 2–3 min. NAD+ precursor via Slc12a8 transporter, bypasses gut degradation.
Breakfast (with fat)
Bromantane — 50mg. TH and AADC enzyme upregulation, raises dopamine synthesis ceiling without forcing release or depleting pools. Daily, hard break every 8–10 weeks for 2 weeks minimum.Aniracetam — 750mg. AMPA potentiation, anxiolytic via mGluR1/5, increases cortical ACh release. Requires fat for absorption.
Alpha-GPC — 300mg (600mg on training days). Cholinergic precursor feeding Aniracetam's ACh demand. 600mg pre-training also produces an acute GH pulse.
Uridine Monophosphate — 150mg. Completes the MIT triad (Uridine + DHA + Choline) for dendritic spine density and D1/D2 receptor upregulation.
Phosphatidylserine — 300mg. Membrane integrity, cortisol blunting post-training.
7,8-DHF — 5mg breakfast + 5mg early afternoon (both with fat). Direct TrkB agonist, hits BDNF receptor without requiring BDNF production. Split dosing for half-life. Pause during Cerebrolysin courses — pathway is already fully activated.
Galantamine — 4–8mg breakfast, ON WEEKS ONLY. AChE inhibition + allosteric nicotinic potentiation. Never concurrent with Huperzine A.
Midday
L-Tyrosine — 500mg away from other large amino acids. Catecholamine substrate, feeds Bromantane's upregulated TH/AADC. Timed for when the enzyme upregulation is active.Evening / Pre-Sleep
Magnesium Threonate — 2000mg 60–90 min before sleep. Only Mg form with reliable BBB penetration, raises synaptic Mg2+, overnight synaptic density and NMDA regulation.Huperzine A — 100mcg evening, OFF WEEKS ONLY. AChE inhibition during sleep, REM consolidation. Long half-life makes evening the right window. Never concurrent with Galantamine.
Guanfacine — 0.5mg pre-sleep. Alpha-2A agonist, prefrontal signal-to-noise filtering via LC-NE traffic control. Skip on alcohol days — hypotensive compounding.
Melatonin — 0.5–1mg sublingual. Circadian entrainment, antioxidant. Low dose only, higher doses disrupt sleep architecture.
Cholinergic Cycle
- Weeks 1–2: Galantamine on, no Huperzine A
- Weeks 3–4: Huperzine A evening, no Galantamine
- Repeat. Never run simultaneously — causes excessive ACh accumulation.
PEPTIDE STACK
KLOW Blend (BPC-157 + GHK-Cu + TB-500 + KPV) — SC daily or 5 on/2 off, 8-week courses with 4 weeks off.MOTS-c — 5–10mg SC 3x/week, morning. Mitochondrial-derived peptide, AMPK activation, directly offsets rHGH-driven insulin resistance. Replaces Berberine's glucose management role at the AMPK level via a distinct pathway.
Cerebrolysin — 2–5mL IM over 10–20 days, 2–3x per year. BDNF/NGF/CNTF/GDNF peptide fragments, direct neurotrophic action. Pause 7,8-DHF during the course.
Epithalon — 10mg SC over 10 days, 2x/year concurrent with Cerebrolysin. Telomerase activation, pineal/circadian regulation.
Dihexa — 1–2mg intranasal, 7–10 day course max, 1–2x/year absolute ceiling. HGF/c-Met agonist, described as orders of magnitude more potent than BDNF in synaptogenesis metrics.
Selank — 250–500mcg intranasal, 10–14 day courses, 2–3x/year. Anxiolytic, BDNF upregulation, IL-6 modulation. Can be combined with Semax in a single nasal spray using BAC water.
Course Schedule
- Course 1 — Weeks 8–10: Cerebrolysin + Epithalon concurrent
- Course 2 — Weeks 14–16: Dihexa standalone, separated to avoid neurotrophic receptor saturation overlap
- Course 3 — Weeks 20–22: Cerebrolysin + Epithalon during PCT
COSMETIC / STRUCTURAL LAYER
Collagen Peptides Type I/III — 15g 30–60 min pre-training with Vitamin C. Shaw et al. timing — synthesis peaks when amino acids are elevated during loading. Vit C is a mandatory co-factor for collagen crosslinking.Hair
RuDerma PG-Free (5% RU58841) — nightly scalp. Androgen receptor antagonism at follicle level, storage stability matters (keep refrigerated).(7% Minoxidil + 0.3% Dutasteride) — morning scalp. Potassium channel opening + dual 5-AR inhibition. Weekly dermaroller followed by both products within 20 minutes.
Skin
Tretinoin A-Ret Gel 0.025% — evening after cleanse. Stepping toward 0.05% as long-term target. Best-evidenced topical for skin remodelling, mandatory SPF while on it.SPF 50+ — morning after Niacinamide. Non-negotiable with Tretinoin, increased photosensitivity.
Ice roller — orbital bone, morning.
