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ElliotRogger2.0

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Is there still hope for me
What Softmaxes can I do
 

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If you're 100% sure you were born with that hairline, find a hairstyle to cover your forehead.

If you were just recently receding, look into getting your hair recession mitigated with Minoxidil. Hop on Finasteride after you turn 20.
 
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Thx do u have some more advise facial wise
zemult said:
If you're 100% sure you were born with that hairline, find a hairstyle to cover your forehead.

If you were just recently receding, look into getting your hair recession mitigated with Minoxidil. Hop on Finasteride after you turn 20.
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ElliotRogger2.0 said:
Thx do u have some more advise facial wise
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Tbh you already look normal otherwise. You have a long midface but that's unfixable.

You should take better pictures in the future, selfies do not cut it, especially if you're tilting your head down at the selfie.

Once you get the hair sorted you shouldn't have much problems IRL if you're NT.
 
zemult said:
Tbh you already look normal otherwise. You have a long midface but that's unfixable.

You should take better pictures in the future, selfies do not cut it, especially if you're tilting your head down at the selfie.

Once you get the hair sorted you shouldn't have much problems IRL if you're NT.
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Alr thx what does NT mean
 
zemult said:
Tbh you already look normal otherwise. You have a long midface but that's unfixable.

You should take better pictures in the future, selfies do not cut it, especially if you're tilting your head down at the selfie.

Once you get the hair sorted you shouldn't have much problems IRL if you're NT.
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Can I do anything to get my lips bigger or better eyebrows or lashes
 
ElliotRogger2.0 said:
Can I do anything to get my lips bigger or better eyebrows or lashes
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Eyebrows already look fine. Eyelashes there's probably already a BOTB thread for it.

Your lip problems could only be solved with a Mouth Commissuroplasty + Lip Lift for the upper lip, both of which are procedures which could result in permanent scarring.
 
zemult said:
Eyebrows already look fine. Eyelashes there's probably already a BOTB thread for it.

Your lip problems could only be solved with a Mouth Commissuroplasty + Lip Lift for the upper lip, both of which are procedures which could result in permanent scarring.
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But there are no softmaxes for lips?
 
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could do with a rhino for your nose from the front
 
Lose fat
 
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Get lean, longer hair, grow a mustache
 
You’re on the fbi watchlist with that username now bud
 
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Grow out your hair and lean down.
 
mirin pfp. btw u look retarded
 
zemult said:
Tbh you already look normal otherwise. You have a long midface but that's unfixable.

You should take better pictures in the future, selfies do not cut it, especially if you're tilting your head down at the selfie.

Once you get the hair sorted you shouldn't have much problems IRL if you're NT.
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His midface is to long irl is 0.91 in the selfie which means it is atleast 0.93 probabaly close to 0.95. 0.95 is ideal and to someone (https://looksmax.org/threads/38-mos...nd-the-ideal-measurements-high-effort.956143/). I would even argue 0,9< then its like a failo otherwise is not ideal. 0.9 midface canlook very long because fwhr can make it look less long.
 
zemult said:
Tbh you already look normal otherwise. You have a long midface but that's unfixable.

You should take better pictures in the future, selfies do not cut it, especially if you're tilting your head down at the selfie.

Once you get the hair sorted you shouldn't have much problems IRL if you're NT.
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He could get a Lefort 1 to shorten his midface but it prolly isn't worth the risk
 
Elliot Rodgers :ROFLMAO: listen u guys are the same amt lookswise idk maybe u could be above but in my region which is New england the racepill is brutal here and if ur a hapa lets say you'll have to compensate with 2 higher points in psl which there is less than a 2 pt difference in psl between u and him
 
Ltn
 
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pleasemog54 said:
Elliot Rodgers :ROFLMAO: listen u guys are the same amt lookswise idk maybe u could be above but in my region which is New england the racepill is brutal here and if ur a hapa lets say you'll have to compensate with 2 higher points in psl which there is less than a 2 pt difference in psl between u and him
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Alr but what can i improve
 
A rhino and lower eyelid blephero + sleep and caffeine cream. Cantho is possible, but supra+infra and obo all seem to give quite a considerable amt of ppl pretty big jumps in psl so consider if u want to reshape but will be expensive and risky. I'd get a genio to reshape the chin a bit looks a bit off- prolly cuz it sticks out a bit/wierdly do more research. Chin and jaw implants can increase psl considerably 2 I've soon, u don't have a terrible base which is good and your ratios r not striking but quite dead center average. One big thing would grow out your hair messy and long, u def have a big forehead which u should cover as much as possible. You've got not such a wide neck so do training like neck curls (that can get pretty rough I'll say hard work). Ur upper lip is quite small in comparision to the lower lip, get a fairly small dose of lip filler for the upper lip, I'd consult a doctor bc u can mess that up quite easily. If your hair is receding and there is nothing that's stopping it consider a hair transplant, that could ascend you from low mtn to high mtn, a jump to low htn is possible but very unlikely it depends on results. Your shoulder width looks pretty decent so that's definitely a good thing, but overall rn ur a low-mid mtn but leaning towards low mtn. Overall I think a rhino, blephero, genio/chin implant and hair transplant could all get u to htn but it's gonna take time money and effort. Prolly will take u 2-3 years to consult get the surgeries and debloat if u have financial resources rn or very soon
 
pleasemog54 said:
A rhino and lower eyelid blephero + sleep and caffeine cream. Cantho is possible, but supra+infra and obo all seem to give quite a considerable amt of ppl pretty big jumps in psl so consider if u want to reshape but will be expensive and risky. I'd get a genio to reshape the chin a bit looks a bit off- prolly cuz it sticks out a bit/wierdly do more research. Chin and jaw implants can increase psl considerably 2 I've soon, u don't have a terrible base which is good and your ratios r not striking but quite dead center average. One big thing would grow out your hair messy and long, u def have a big forehead which u should cover as much as possible. You've got not such a wide neck so do training like neck curls (that can get pretty rough I'll say hard work). Ur upper lip is quite small in comparision to the lower lip, get a fairly small dose of lip filler for the upper lip, I'd consult a doctor bc u can mess that up quite easily. If your hair is receding and there is nothing that's stopping it consider a hair transplant, that could ascend you from low mtn to high mtn, a jump to low htn is possible but very unlikely it depends on results. Your shoulder width looks pretty decent so that's definitely a good thing, but overall rn ur a low-mid mtn but leaning towards low mtn. Overall I think a rhino, blephero, genio/chin implant and hair transplant could all get u to htn but it's gonna take time money and effort. Prolly will take u 2-3 years to consult get the surgeries and debloat if u have financial resources rn or very soon
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Don't consider yourself to ER he was a severely mentally insane individual that has killed many people and your not him, so change the pfp or you'll likely end up as him :ROFLMAO:. Time and effort will get u a girl if u don't alr, compared to that incel who will never have sex evER since he's been dead for over a decade
 
pleasemog54 said:
A rhino and lower eyelid blephero + sleep and caffeine cream. Cantho is possible, but supra+infra and obo all seem to give quite a considerable amt of ppl pretty big jumps in psl so consider if u want to reshape but will be expensive and risky. I'd get a genio to reshape the chin a bit looks a bit off- prolly cuz it sticks out a bit/wierdly do more research. Chin and jaw implants can increase psl considerably 2 I've soon, u don't have a terrible base which is good and your ratios r not striking but quite dead center average. One big thing would grow out your hair messy and long, u def have a big forehead which u should cover as much as possible. You've got not such a wide neck so do training like neck curls (that can get pretty rough I'll say hard work). Ur upper lip is quite small in comparision to the lower lip, get a fairly small dose of lip filler for the upper lip, I'd consult a doctor bc u can mess that up quite easily. If your hair is receding and there is nothing that's stopping it consider a hair transplant, that could ascend you from low mtn to high mtn, a jump to low htn is possible but very unlikely it depends on results. Your shoulder width looks pretty decent so that's definitely a good thing, but overall rn ur a low-mid mtn but leaning towards low mtn. Overall I think a rhino, blephero, genio/chin implant and hair transplant could all get u to htn but it's gonna take time money and effort. Prolly will take u 2-3 years to consult get the surgeries and debloat if u have financial resources rn or very soon
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Alright thx but are there any softmaxes
 
pleasemog54 said:
A rhino and lower eyelid blephero + sleep and caffeine cream. Cantho is possible, but supra+infra and obo all seem to give quite a considerable amt of ppl pretty big jumps in psl so consider if u want to reshape but will be expensive and risky. I'd get a genio to reshape the chin a bit looks a bit off- prolly cuz it sticks out a bit/wierdly do more research. Chin and jaw implants can increase psl considerably 2 I've soon, u don't have a terrible base which is good and your ratios r not striking but quite dead center average. One big thing would grow out your hair messy and long, u def have a big forehead which u should cover as much as possible. You've got not such a wide neck so do training like neck curls (that can get pretty rough I'll say hard work). Ur upper lip is quite small in comparision to the lower lip, get a fairly small dose of lip filler for the upper lip, I'd consult a doctor bc u can mess that up quite easily. If your hair is receding and there is nothing that's stopping it consider a hair transplant, that could ascend you from low mtn to high mtn, a jump to low htn is possible but very unlikely it depends on results. Your shoulder width looks pretty decent so that's definitely a good thing, but overall rn ur a low-mid mtn but leaning towards low mtn. Overall I think a rhino, blephero, genio/chin implant and hair transplant could all get u to htn but it's gonna take time money and effort. Prolly will take u 2-3 years to consult get the surgeries and debloat if u have financial resources rn or very soon
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Damn youre so specific, can u rate me ?
 
ElliotRogger2.0 said:
Alright thx but are there any softmaxes
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  • Get jacked and lean (abs, v-shape taper, thin and ripped)
  • Get to 10-12% bf
  • Retinoids, Moisturizers, Exfoliators, Vitamin-C serums, and b-carotene for glowing debloated, small pores clean skin
  • Bro-Glo Self-Tanner on body and face
  • Get Low-taper fade with textured fade
  • Wear natural blu4 eye contacts
  • Dye hair natural blonde
  • Mewing
  • Chewing Hard Mastic Gum
  • Thumbpulling
  • Zygopulling
  • Eyepulling
  • Squintmaxxing
  • Minodixil on eyebrows and hair
  • Eyelash curler for upside-down U look
  • Apply Vilofine over the eye area
  • Use caffeine cream to reduce puffiness and purpleness under the eyes
  • Get 10 hours minimum of sleep
  • Apply foundation and men’s makeup for contouring and more beautiful skin
  • 3 Cold Showers daily
  • Running 4-5 days a week
  • Swimming 5 days a week
  • Heavy Lifting 3 days a week
  • Grow out hair long
  • Wear Calithe Watch
  • Wear black fitted t-shirts
  • Wear black/dark brown cargo pants
  • Wear black sweatpants
  • Wear white linen pants
  • Where college crewneck
  • Wear all white vans
  • Where 3-inch shoes
  • Wear additional 3-inch increasing height extenders in shoes
  • Wear a corset under a fitted black T-shirt
  • Wear Shoulder pads undershirt
  • Apply hair gel and salt spray to hair for fluffiness
  • Wear neutral-colored Boat shoes
  • Use ice masks/face masks
  • Use gua gua shade in the morning
  • Drink 1L of Coconut water daily
  • Eat lots of steaks, grilled chicken, whole grains, smoothies, natural sugared fruits, reduce salt intake, reduce processed food intake, reduce sugar intake (only have natural sugars, cut out soda, lots of salads, vegetables, and fruits), eat lots of potassium
  • Smudged Egyptian eyeliner in the eye area
  • Dark black beard dye for eyebrows to darken
  • A little bit of mascara on the eyelashes
  • Creatine for muscle growth
  • Neck training to widen/thicken the neck
  • Voice exercises for a deeper voice
  • Dress preppy (like those in Brooks Brothers/Ralph Lauren/J. Crew F/W campaigns in ‘80s-’90s)
  • Get rid of glasses
  • Get neck
  • Sock lifts
  • Use Sodium Hydroxide for clean white teeth
  • Nose lift clip
  • Nose inserts
  • 1-2 small Temporary tattoos
  • Fake inflicted scar on face and body
  • Henna freckles
  • Contour/tanning lotion to fraud more defined abs/muscles
  • Put socks in pants to make a bigger bulge in the groin area
  • Get fake realistic followers on Instagram for social media status
  • Grow a light stubble to emphasize a more defined jawline/chin
  • Get a tan Burberry trench coat
  • Get black Oxford shoes
  • Fraud in photos with lighting/angle editing and manipulation
  • Bonesmashing
  • Nose breathing (use nose tape)
  • Zygomatic Tape
  • Face tape
  • Edging for a few more years
  • Get at least 1 hour of sunlight outside every day
  • 2-day fasting every month (starvemaxxing)
  • Jelquing
  • Apply talcum powder on the face daily
  • Use Egyptian eyebrow pencils
  • Use Egyptian eyeliner pencil, get it messy by rubbing it in around the eye area
  • Liquid blush for rosy cheeks and pink undertone (Loreal or Rosy Lip Palm)
  • Lip liner for thin lips (can widen a bit)
  • Use a contouring stick to fraud jawline, cheekbones, nose
  • Concealer pen for eyebags acne scars and blemishes
  • Use sunscreen daily when outside
  • Work on social skills, start approaching and having conversations with girls, make more male friends, build connections and networking
  • Use a designer cologne and apply a few squirts over body and clothing
  • Hyaluronidase fat dissolver on face
  • Exfoliate lips
  • Tretinoin for smaller nose and acne
  • Hydrocortisone for nose size reduction
  • Pomade for Darker Eyebrows
  • Lipstick to fraud wide lips
  • Apply ice over eyes to give it that hooded Hunter eye look

But I would still consider hardmaxxing. For mtn u will still struggle. The most u can go up with all the softmaxxes I have listed in total are +1 in attractiveness imo. With hardmaxxing you can go up to 3 points in psl through alot of surgery. Looks is inflated nowadays and the mtn will get treated as subhuman despite not being subhuman lookswise by strangers. Do u want a change in the way ppl treat you? I'm sure ppl on omegle and in real life would instantly skip/look away from u. Make a change and be the one that gets looked at for the rt reasons in a good way. That's just my advice. Even the low htn will get treated as invisible. I will add on a list of surgeries u should take a look at as a good amount of these can ascend u despite the body part that will be affected by the surgery looks average on you currently.*
 
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Hardmaxxing:
  • Bimax Double-Jaw Surgery
  • Trimax Surgery
  • Zygo Implants
  • Malar Implants
  • Ramus Implants
  • Ramus Angle Surgery
  • Orbital Box Osteotomy
  • Canthoplasty
  • Upper-eyelid Blepharoplasty
  • Lower-eyelid Blepharoplasty
  • Rhinoplasty
  • Ethnic Rhinoplasty
  • Septoplasty
  • Lefort 3 Surgery
  • Buccal Fat Removal
  • Infra-Orbital Implants
  • Supra-Orbital Surgery
  • Genioplasty (Chin Bone Contouring)
  • Chin Implants
  • Jaw Implants
  • Clavicle Lengthening Surgery
  • Limb Lengthening Surgery (tibia and femur)
  • Almond Eye Surgery
  • Fat Grafting
  • Skin Laser Resurfacing
  • Cheek Filler
  • Jaw Filler
  • Chin Filler
  • Upper Lip Lift
  • Lip Filler
  • Steroids/Testosterone
  • Facelift
  • Lip Widening Surgery
  • Neck Lift
  • Cheek Augmentation Surgery (Malarplasty)
  • Forehead Reduction Surgery
  • Skull Reshaping Surgery
  • Face Shortening Surgery
  • LeFort 1 osteotomy
  • Lefort 2
  • Trimax Surgery
  • Zygo filler
  • HGH (Testosterone)
  • Skin Microneedling
  • Midfacing contouring surgery
  • Lip lift
  • Tripod Osteotomy
  • Botox
  • Derma fillers
  • Face Liposuction
  • Orthognathic Surgery
  • Cheiloplasty
  • Chin Surgery (Mentoplasty)
  • Temporal Lift (Lateral Brow Lift)
  • Lip Augmentation Surgery
  • Double Eyelid Surgery (Asian Blepharoplasty)
  • Infrazygo implant
  • Commissuroplasty
  • Temporal Implants

Do some research on these, pick the ones that can ascend u alot, and go from there
 
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pleasemog54 said:
Hardmaxxing:
  • Bimax Double-Jaw Surgery
  • Trimax Surgery
  • Zygo Implants
  • Malar Implants
  • Ramus Implants
  • Ramus Angle Surgery
  • Orbital Box Osteotomy
  • Canthoplasty
  • Upper-eyelid Blepharoplasty
  • Lower-eyelid Blepharoplasty
  • Rhinoplasty
  • Ethnic Rhinoplasty
  • Septoplasty
  • Lefort 3 Surgery
  • Buccal Fat Removal
  • Infra-Orbital Implants
  • Supra-Orbital Surgery
  • Genioplasty (Chin Bone Contouring)
  • Chin Implants
  • Jaw Implants
  • Clavicle Lengthening Surgery
  • Limb Lengthening Surgery (tibia and femur)
  • Almond Eye Surgery
  • Fat Grafting
  • Skin Laser Resurfacing
  • Cheek Filler
  • Jaw Filler
  • Chin Filler
  • Upper Lip Lift
  • Lip Filler
  • Steroids/Testosterone
  • Facelift
  • Lip Widening Surgery
  • Neck Lift
  • Cheek Augmentation Surgery (Malarplasty)
  • Forehead Reduction Surgery
  • Skull Reshaping Surgery
  • Face Shortening Surgery
  • LeFort 1 osteotomy
  • Lefort 2
  • Trimax Surgery
  • Zygo filler
  • HGH (Testosterone)
  • Skin Microneedling
  • Midfacing contouring surgery
  • Lip lift
  • Tripod Osteotomy
  • Botox
  • Derma fillers
  • Face Liposuction
  • Orthognathic Surgery
  • Cheiloplasty
  • Chin Surgery (Mentoplasty)
  • Temporal Lift (Lateral Brow Lift)
  • Lip Augmentation Surgery
  • Double Eyelid Surgery (Asian Blepharoplasty)
  • Infrazygo implant
  • Commissuroplasty
  • Temporal Implants

Do some research on these, pick the ones that can ascend u alot, and go from there
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technically if u did all this and everything worked out perfectly which in this day and age would be <50% success rate tops for even a high ltn to reach cl, but this comes at a cost. With calculations, these surgeries like at the minimum/what u can get for a good surgery would be around $250-300k, which most people on here who are young and prolly broke do not have. I would start saving up bigtime. Invest in crypto like Bitcoin but especially Bitcoin, starting index's are always quite a good investment, dump money into the S&P 500, and start building up a financial portfolio to afford these surgeries plus softmaxxing products (gym membership, lots of Cocunut Water, Minodixil, style, etc- like what was in the list above.) You aren't the ugliest duckling on here and that's fs nor am I, but with alot of time investment and even sacrifice you can achieve a better life, the Halo Effect is something overlooked by the general population, as most people will believe it but the Bluepilled majority of ppl will shut it down not enough for it to be emphasized enough for looksmaxxing to go mainstream, which it will prolly never be bc most ppl are too lazy to improve and will take the bluepill. I'd save up and make at least $50k a year wherever you are, then once u have a little extra money over $20k with a decent income, start dumping that $20k into investment and I promise they will do the work their supposed to and a couple more years (3.5-4 years minimum) you will start being able to get surgeries, but you won't be anywhere close to $250k, like I said do your research and choose the best surgeries that fit u. There is a guy named Chadify and Jfl, Chadify is a website and Jfl is a tiktoker, you can dm them your face and they will morph it for you, and give you surgery advice- they know even alot more than I so I would check them out, pay whatever it costs for the advice, and put some faith into their advice because they have a good amount of knowledge in the hardmaxxing/even softmaxxing topics.
 
technically if u did all this and everything worked out perfectly which in this day and age would be <50% success rate tops for even a high ltn to reach cl, but this comes at a cost. With calculations, these surgeries like at the minimum/what u can get for a good surgery would be around $250-300k, which most people on here who are young and prolly broke do not have. I would start saving up bigtime. Invest in crypto like Bitcoin but especially Bitcoin, starting index's are always quite a good investment, dump money into the S&P 500, and start building up a financial portfolio to afford these surgeries plus softmaxxing products (gym membership, lots of Cocunut Water, Minodixil, style, etc- like what was in the list above.) You aren't the ugliest duckling on here and that's fs nor am I, but with alot of time investment and even sacrifice you can achieve a better life, the Halo Effect is something overlooked by the general population, as most people will believe it but the Bluepilled majority of ppl will shut it down not enough for it to be emphasized enough for looksmaxxing to go mainstream, which it will prolly never be bc most ppl are too lazy to improve and will take the bluepill. I'd save up and make at least $50k a year wherever you are, then once u have a little extra money over $20k with a decent income, start dumping that $20k into investment and I promise they will do the work their supposed to and a couple more years (3.5-4 years minimum) you will start being able to get surgeries, but you won't be anywhere close to $250k, like I said do your research and choose the best surgeries that fit u. There is a guy named Chadify and Jfl, Chadify is a website and Jfl is a tiktoker, you can dm them your face and they will morph it for you, and give you surgery advice- they know even alot more than I so I would check them out, pay whatever it costs for the advice, and put some faith into their advice because they have a good amount of knowledge in the hardmaxxing/even softmaxxing topics.
and you will get everything u ever desired. Here take it---> :blackpill: :ROFLMAO:
 
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