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really,why do i need it?get marpe asap
looked at the thread. tbh they're right it won't significantly change ur face but it would significantly improve ur smile. you also are young enough where you dont need surgical assist. if you have the money i would say its worth it tbh as someone who has got it but mainly for functional benefit.really,why do i need it?
people on this thread told me i dont.? im confused.
Thread 'Why do you think my orthodontist didnt wanna give me a palatal expander?'
https://looksmax.org/threads/why-do...dnt-wanna-give-me-a-palatal-expander.1678811/
youre talking about marpe right?looked at the thread. tbh they're right it won't significantly change ur face but it would significantly improve ur smile. you also are young enough where you dont need surgical assist. if you have the money i would say its worth it tbh as someone who has got it but mainly for functional benefit.
yes, get MARPE first then invisalign to correct the spacing. you'll get both benefits that way. MARPE is also lowkey a gateway to hardmaxxing in the future as well. you could also ask for a facemask + marpe to ur ortho if interested too.youre talking about marpe right?
i thought i could get invisaling as well as it can increase the arch but i dont know if invisalign is good since it moves the teeth from its arch i havent really looked it up,some say its good some swear it is bad
well,the orthodontist that denied me the palatal expander def. wont give me marpe + facemask and invisalign for free,ive came many times to them to larp about needing treatment but they just keep denying me atp they will kick me out the facility if they see me,and as i turn 18 in literally 6 days,ortho treatment won’t be free,yes, get MARPE first then invisalign to correct the spacing. you'll get both benefits that way. MARPE is also lowkey a gateway to hardmaxxing in the future as well. you could also ask for a facemask + marpe to ur ortho if interested too.
i know,dont know if its lack of test because i do wake up with a hard wood often or i still haven’t grown up…you look 15 at most
if money is an issue then i would say the roi is not worth it at all. im 20 and i got marpe without needing surgical assist, but I believe needing surgical assist all depends on your facial sutures. since you look pretty young i say you got plenty of time. if that ortho keeps denying i would say change orthodonists, ideally an ortho who markets themselves as an "airway" specialist or cosmetic specialist.well,the orthodontist that denied me the palatal expander def. wont give me marpe + facemask and invisalign for free,ive came many times to them to larp about needing treatment but they just keep denying me atp they will kick me out the facility if they see me,and as i turn 18 in literally 6 days,ortho treatment won’t be free,
What would you say before what age should i get marpe + facemask and invisalign after, because it costs a lot so i need to get money somehow while still in hs
what do you mean by surgical assist?if money is an issue then i would say the roi is not worth it at all. im 20 and i got marpe without needing surgical assist, but I believe needing surgical assist all depends on your facial sutures. since you look pretty young i say you got plenty of time. if that ortho keeps denying i would say change orthodonists, ideally an ortho who markets themselves as an "airway" specialist or cosmetic specialist.
usually if a patient is much older, they need a procedure called a corticotomy which the surgeon surgically cuts the mid palatal suture since its fused. its alot more annoying to deal with + costs more money, but you're young enough right now where you don't need it. if you plan on getting DJS, you should definitely get MARPE first --> braces (which is required for pre-op before DJS) --> DJS. Though consult with a OMFS surgeon to see if you actually need DJS or a genioplasty in the first place.what do you mean by surgical assist?
i know my chin is recessed and i dont know how to fix that,double jaw surgery after marpe?
so i need double jaw surgery,usually if a patient is much older, they need a procedure called a corticotomy which the surgeon surgically cuts the mid palatal suture since its fused. its alot more annoying to deal with + costs more money, but you're young enough right now where you don't need it. if you plan on getting DJS, you should definitely get MARPE first --> braces (which is required for pre-op before DJS) --> DJS. Though consult with a OMFS surgeon to see if you actually need DJS or a genioplasty in the first place.
172cmhow tall are you, that might tall if you are just a late bloomer.
Double jaw surgery = Lefort 1 (maxillary advancement) + BSSO (mandibular advancement)so i need double jaw surgery,
what about the lefort surgeries?
oh ok,like the mineral bloodwork,where you can see testosterone and that stuff?yeah you might be a mega late bloomer. Go get some bloodwork done to see if you have any hormone problems
how much mm would i need to expand?Double jaw surgery = Lefort 1 (maxillary advancement) + BSSO (mandibular advancement)
do you think 2007 girls look old,brutal agepill, no chance with foids ur age and youll official be a pedo if you go far anyone younger, you look 15 jfl
again, you would have to consult with an omfs for precise advice. also DJS typically advances your face not widenhow much mm would i need to expand?
my face is pretty wide,i dont want to be ogre-like and have a wide face
no i was saying that YOU look way to young, pre puberty even, foids tahtre 2007 dont wanna get with ur middle school ass niggado you think 2007 girls look old,
MTN
im talking about the marpe,again, you would have to consult with an omfs for precise advice. also DJS typically advances your face not widen
it will only be bad if you get 7mm+. most ortho prescribe 4-6 only.im talking about the marpe,
i already have kind of a wide face,will it make it more wider to a point its a failo
hows my gonial angle?MTN
Cons: Gonial Angle and Maxilla
do you want me to blast test and hgh,no i was saying that YOU look way to young, pre puberty even, foids tahtre 2007 dont wanna get with ur middle school ass nigga![]()
Too obtusehows my gonial angle?
top high or too low
what?Too obtuse
Too highwhat?
how can i fix itToo high
Don’t listen to himget marpe asap
really!Don’t listen to him
i dont think 4-5mm will hurt me,tbh i never smile in pics and want to have a better smileDon’t listen to him
is bimax the same as double jaw surgery or no?hit the gym, your side profile is the worst part youre recessed so if you were ever planning anything, do something to fix that, bimax would be your best option imo.
yeah thats what it is, if you want specifics your best course of action would be bimaxillary advancement.is bimax the same as double jaw surgery or no?
yea but i would need marpe + facemask and the braces beforeyeah thats what it is, if you want specifics your best course of action would be bimaxillary advancement.
no you wouldnt, you dont need marpe if youre getting bimaxillary advancement. at most you could get a pallate expander before and get a few mm of expansion, nothing crazyyea but i would need marpe + facemask and the braces before
well im 18 so palate expander wont work i think idk,no you wouldnt, you dont need marpe if youre getting bimaxillary advancement. at most you could get a pallate expander before and get a few mm of expansion, nothing crazy
it will work.well im 18 so palate expander wont work i think idk,
idk i never smile maybe i just need invisalign and you can also increase the arch with it
i sent a pic of me smiling,like i need 3-5mm
Smiles finei dont think 4-5mm will hurt me,tbh i never smile in pics and want to have a better smile
brootal smile pill
but the orthos litterally didnt want to give me the expander,i came there larping my ass of because ortho treatment is free for under 18,and they refused,it was last monthit will work.
then the problem is the bones ..?Smiles fine
you probably said some retarded shit, either way just go to a different ortho and ask for one, i dont see why they wouldnt do it for you, your palatte isnt maybe crazy narrow but it is narrowbut the orthos litterally didnt want to give me the expander,i came there larping my ass of because ortho treatment is free for under 18,and they refused,it was last month
but i do think invisaling could help me maybe straighten my teeth and stuffSmiles fine
you recessed asf
@noahwillascend says differentlyyou probably said some retarded shit, either way just go to a different ortho and ask for one, i dont see why they wouldnt do it for you, your palatte isnt maybe crazy narrow but it is narrow