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then the problem is the bones ..?

so the only solution is double jaw surgery?

if it is,how invasive would it be for me because i saw a girl on tt,she got the surgery and after 2 years her joints litterally started like dissaeparing idk how to explain it but she was in a lot of pain and needed to do something to restore it
well, youre recessed to the point where surgery would help you, i also know of a person that got botched, the problem is you need to do your research, have a good plan and make sure to find a surgeon that can carry out said plan, be realistic, and make sure you do things properly, people get botched because they jump into it with no plan crazy expectations and zero research, backed by the fact they go to sub par surgeons who ofcourse will agree to the surgery, as it benefits their pockets.
 
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recessed chin + narrow palate. dont know why ur still going back and forth as if people didnt already tell u that a million times
 
@noahwillascend says differently

-dont know who to listen anymore…
he is right, its not needed, i just gave you an optional procedure if youre that worried about your palatte being narrow, all you really need is bimax
 
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recessed chin + narrow palate. dont know why ur still going back and forth as if people didnt already tell u that a million times
is it better to get marpe,cause my old orthodontist isnt going to give me a palatal expander,
 
is it better to get marpe,cause my old orthodontist isnt going to give me a palatal expander,
u look young so marpe is better cuz ur sutures arent gonna be fully fused and ur gonna need braces
 
so its better to get a palatal expander with braces

why?
maybe its cheaper but i know braces arent cheap as well
imo none of it is needed, the ROI is not worth it, as ive said if youre gonna expand your palatte best course of action would be palatte expander, you would only need a few mm of movement in the first place, and its cheaper yes. the only thing thats truly gonna work for you and make a difference in aesthetics is bimax.
 
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imo none of it is needed, the ROI is not worth it, as ive said if youre gonna expand your palatte best course of action would be palatte expander, you would only need a few mm of movement in the first place, and its cheaper yes. the only thing thats truly gonna work for you and make a difference in aesthetics is bimax.
ohh ok thank you
 
imo none of it is needed, the ROI is not worth it, as ive said if youre gonna expand your palatte best course of action would be palatte expander, you would only need a few mm of movement in the first place, and its cheaper yes. the only thing thats truly gonna work for you and make a difference in aesthetics is bimax.
any surgeon or doctor with a brain would recommend widening his palate before a fucking bimax
 
any surgeon or doctor with a brain would recommend widening his palate before a fucking bimax
his palate is not that narrow, so its not necessarily needed, that judgement at the end of the day would come down to the surgeon
 
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Well i found a clinic im going to go to and consult with,i think its a good clinic they have the website in english as well

 
yeah,but i dont think i need a lot of expansion,maybe like 3-4mm?
ur premolars are narrow and ur front teeth look a bit crowded
 
yeah,but i dont think i need a lot of expansion,maybe like 3-4mm?
idk im not gonna be able to tell u how much u need
 
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his palate is not that narrow, so its not necessarily needed, that judgement at the end of the day would come down to the surgeon
dude marpe would literally laterally expand his mandible as well. ur lower jaw moves in relation to upper. i still dont understand why youd recommend a bimax instead when he clearly has a narrow palate
 
dude marpe would literally laterally expand his mandible as well. ur lower jaw moves in relation to upper. i still dont understand why youd recommend a bimax instead when he clearly has a narrow palate
i would still need a bimax tho,no?
after marpe and braces,

would i benefit from facemask with marpe?
 
dude marpe would literally laterally expand his mandible as well. ur lower jaw moves in relation to upper. i still dont understand why youd recommend a bimax instead when he clearly has a narrow palate
because hes recessed. i already recommended a palate expander, but he cant get it, marpe is not ideal plus really expensive
 
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@noahwillascend says differently

-dont know who to listen anymore…
Yea ur sides chopped and u would need surgery if ur breathings shit but if it’s purely for aesthetics I wouldn’t even bother it’s too much money and too long for it to even make a difference you’d be like 30 by the time u can afford it
 
what do i need to do to ascend besides
marpe and djs
im not sure you even need those tbh, I think getting a rhino and gym maxing to be like lean with abit of size would get u to a htn, even now tho u probably wouldn't struggle to get girls depending on the height
 

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