18m with low test, is 200mg a good starting dose?

[oz97]

Ive been having low energy levels and motivation these past months and finally got bloodwork done just to find out I have dogshit levels of test naturally (<350), doctor told me that was normal for my age. I was thinking of hopping on 200-250mg of test E/week, at this dosage is an AI even necessary? i'm looking to be on long term so would rather not have to. SHBG was 30, and Estradiol was <30. Just trying to stop feeling like shit daily while getting some anabolic benefit.

 

[teenagelovepilldnr]

Ive been having low energy levels and motivation these past months and finally got bloodwork done just to find out I have dogshit levels of test naturally (<350), doctor told me that was normal for my age. I was thinking of hopping on 200-250mg of test E/week, at this dosage is an AI even necessary? i'm looking to be on long term so would rather not have to. SHBG was 30, and Estradiol was <30. Just trying to stop feeling like shit daily while getting some anabolic benefit.

Hell no start on 500mgs test and 250mgs equipose and use cialis every other day

 

[oz97]

Hell no start on 500mgs test and 250mgs equipose and use cialis every other day

500mg? for how long?

 

[teenagelovepilldnr]

500mg? for how long?

8 weeks tha cruise

 

[rogejumpee]

Ive been having low energy levels and motivation these past months and finally got bloodwork done just to find out I have dogshit levels of test naturally (<350), doctor told me that was normal for my age. I was thinking of hopping on 200-250mg of test E/week, at this dosage is an AI even necessary? i'm looking to be on long term so would rather not have to. SHBG was 30, and Estradiol was <30. Just trying to stop feeling like shit daily while getting some anabolic benefit.

no bro start on 7kg

 

[oz97]

8 weeks tha cruise

would ai be necessary at that dosage

 

[Kurdish_slayer]

Ive been having low energy levels and motivation these past months and finally got bloodwork done just to find out I have dogshit levels of test naturally (<350), doctor told me that was normal for my age. I was thinking of hopping on 200-250mg of test E/week, at this dosage is an AI even necessary? i'm looking to be on long term so would rather not have to. SHBG was 30, and Estradiol was <30. Just trying to stop feeling like shit daily while getting some anabolic benefit.

18 + TRT is an overreaction. low energy at that age is almost always lifestyle tbh, not permanent low the thought of that it is winter and allat now. fix basics before comitting to lifelong injections

 

[oz97]

18 + TRT is an overreaction. low energy at that age is almost always lifestyle tbh, not permanent low the thought of that it is winter and allat now. fix basics before comitting to lifelong injections

I 100% agree but ive changed my lifestyle significantly these past 4-5 months(8 hours of sleep, all goyslop diet to only whole foods, working out, etc), None of which have really helped

 

[BR32]

I 100% agree but ive changed my lifestyle significantly these past 4-5 months(8 hours of sleep, all goyslop diet to only whole foods, working out, etc), None of which have really helped

Get your hormones checked and start on 250 test e pinning daily if you really want to do gear

 

[Kurdish_slayer]

I 100% agree but ive changed my lifestyle significantly these past 4-5 months(8 hours of sleep, all goyslop diet to only whole foods, working out, etc), None of which have really helped

fair enough, 4-5 months still isnt long in the big picture, bloods can be transient (seasonal, stress, pvertraining) if i were u i wouldve recheck labs and rule out other causer before locking into TRT for life

 

[BR32]

fair enough, 4-5 months still isnt long in the big picture, bloods can be transient (seasonal, stress, pvertraining) if i were u i wouldve recheck labs and rule out other causer before locking into TRT for life

Agreed I'm generally pro test but people should be smart about how they use it.

the org recommendation of 500 test AI and stfu is so stupid

 

[Kurdish_slayer]

Agreed I'm generally pro test but people should be smart about how they use it.

the org recommendation of 500 test AI and stfu is so stupid

yeah agreed. pro-test doesent mean reckless. blanket advice like "500 test AI" ignores age, context, and labs.

 

[BR32]

yeah agreed. pro-test doesent mean reckless. blanket advice like "500 test AI" ignores age, context, and labs.

All correct

Also I'm of the mind that most should train naturally first for a couple years and get a sense of what their base, insertions, frame, genetic capacity is etc

Cause if you have narrow clavicles and dogshit insertions getting on gear won't ascend you you'll just look like a bigger piece of shit.

Gotta have wide clavicles and capacity for a sick cunt physique if you're gonna take gear.

Wallahi I have that.

Everyone overuses AIs too

 

[oz97]

fair enough, 4-5 months still isnt long in the big picture, bloods can be transient (seasonal, stress, pvertraining) if i were u i wouldve recheck labs and rule out other causer before locking into TRT for life

you're right, i'll try a retest in a few weeks and see if anything can be brought up, my last test was mid november. What do you think of enclo to boost test up to better levels without the suppression?

 

[ConfusedBolivian]

Ive been having low energy levels and motivation these past months and finally got bloodwork done just to find out I have dogshit levels of test naturally (<350), doctor told me that was normal for my age. I was thinking of hopping on 200-250mg of test E/week, at this dosage is an AI even necessary? i'm looking to be on long term so would rather not have to. SHBG was 30, and Estradiol was <30. Just trying to stop feeling like shit daily while getting some anabolic benefit.

Eat raw meat and raw fat

 

[Codename]

Get your hormones checked and start on 250 test e pinning daily if you really want to do gear

Agreed I'm generally pro test but people should be smart about how they use it.

the org recommendation of 500 test AI and stfu is so stupid

All correct

Also I'm of the mind that most should train naturally first for a couple years and get a sense of what their base, insertions, frame, genetic capacity is etc

Cause if you have narrow clavicles and dogshit insertions getting on gear won't ascend you you'll just look like a bigger piece of shit.

Gotta have wide clavicles and capacity for a sick cunt physique if you're gonna take gear.

Wallahi I have that.

Everyone overuses AIs too

That's why I won't bother to go above 200. I have bad clavicles/frame. I'm just on TRT for mental pros

 

[BR32]

That's why I won't bother to go above 200. I have bad clavicles/frame. I'm just on TRT for mental pros

Valid asf thats real maturity

 

[jester]

would ai be necessary at that dosage

yes

 

[jester]

you're right, i'll try a retest in a few weeks and see if anything can be brought up, my last test was mid november. What do you think of enclo to boost test up to better levels without the suppression?

high iq

 

[Kurdish_slayer]

All correct

Also I'm of the mind that most should train naturally first for a couple years and get a sense of what their base, insertions, frame, genetic capacity is etc

Cause if you have narrow clavicles and dogshit insertions getting on gear won't ascend you you'll just look like a bigger piece of shit.

Gotta have wide clavicles and capacity for a sick cunt physique if you're gonna take gear.

Wallahi I have that.

Everyone overuses AIs too

yh ahaha, are u muslim

 

[Kurdish_slayer]

you're right, i'll try a retest in a few weeks and see if anything can be brought up, my last test was mid november. What do you think of enclo to boost test up to better levels without the suppression?

id be carefull with enclo tbh. at 18 your HPTA is still setting and messing with SERMs can just add variables. id retest first (morning, fasted) fix stress/sleep/training volume, and see where levels land naturally.

if its still low after multiple labs, thats when medical options make sens not as a quick fix