19M LTN I just wanna ascend

not really.. even with ideal infras, if you had no fat in the area, you would have a negative orbital vector

the infraorbital rim always fits behind the globe:

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a positive orbital vector is always created by sufficient fat around the area, you'd be deformed if your infraorbital bone actually projected further than the eye
yeah, but lack of fat is a symptom of other problems that arent present most of the time

im not talking about the actual process of it rather how present it is, for some reason in whites infas are just not that present kek
 
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not really.. even with ideal infras, if you had no fat in the area, you would have a negative orbital vector

the infraorbital rim always fits behind the globe:

View attachment 3688179

a positive orbital vector is always created by sufficient fat around the area, you'd be deformed if your infraorbital bone actually projected further than the eye
I’m lowkey uneducated what’s the stupid version of this simplified
 
I’m aware of my flaws I’m going to the dentist to try and ask for a palate expander but I wanna fix my eye area and side profile I don’t wanna get a rhinoplasty ik I have a shitty nose
Your hair is your savior
 
just look at proportion, not at morph itself
ofc i cant just make it look like it should be
Yea true just quick edits but feel like I’d have to hardmaxxed to do allat
 
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yeah, but lack of fat is a symptom of other problems that arent present most of the time

im not talking about the actual process of it rather how present it is, for some reason in whites infas are just not that present kek
it really all depends on the case.. we can't say something is bone or fat related for sure based off of a camera picture where soft tissue is involved, you need a skull scan
 
Yes but they over do it and rate everyone LTN.

I am honest and you are considerably above average,
You shouldn’t be insecure
Everyone’s insecure about something but i definitely need fixing on my side profile but i do appreciate the compliment
 
I’m aware of my flaws I’m going to the dentist to try and ask for a palate expander but I wanna fix my eye area and side profile I don’t wanna get a rhinoplasty ik I have a shitty nose
honestly it just looks like your maxilla is a bit flat, you lack forward growth. If you live in the us try to get a DNA appliance, palate expanders like MSE just make your face wider, won't make it grow forward. Or else give thumb pulling a shot, maybe it works
 
I’m aware of my flaws I’m going to the dentist to try and ask for a palate expander but I wanna fix my eye area and side profile I don’t wanna get a rhinoplasty ik I have a shitty nose
Holy no ramus bro :hnghn:
Seriously we need to do something about that or wat
 
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Gt some fillers on ur ramus or smth
 
honestly it just looks like your maxilla is a bit flat, you lack forward growth. If you live in the us try to get a DNA appliance, palate expanders like MSE just make your face wider, won't make it grow forward. Or else give thumb pulling a shot, maybe it works
I’m actually going to the dentist this week to get some options but im 19 so it might not work for me since im on the older side
 
I’m actually going to the dentist this week to get some options but im 19 so it might not work for me since im on the older side
the bones in the face never actually fuse, there are cases even up to 60 year old dudes getting expansion from a DNA appliance. Tbh i don't know about the price, but i've got the same problem as you and i'm 19 too. You might wanna study yourself, take some scans like x rays of the face and CBCT and do as much research as possible. Listen to truthdds on tiktok and watch SerenaOrthodontics videos on yt, they know a lot about facial development. You're lucky you live in america and have access to a dna appliance, for me it's not an option. Just work your ass off and get it as soon as you can. Btw i think there's some kind of insurance that can cover the costs. About the nose, it seems normal to me
 
the bones in the face never actually fuse, there are cases even up to 60 year old dudes getting expansion from a DNA appliance. Tbh i don't know about the price, but i've got the same problem as you and i'm 19 too. You might wanna study yourself, take some scans like x rays of the face and CBCT and do as much research as possible. Listen to truthdds on tiktok and watch SerenaOrthodontics videos on yt, they know a lot about facial development. You're lucky you live in america and have access to a dna appliance, for me it's not an option. Just work your ass off and get it as soon as you can. Btw i think there's some kind of insurance that can cover the costs. About the nose, it seems normal to me
I got a lot of shit on my nose on other posts lmao but yea I’ll look into I was thinking I could be lucky since I started puberty super late and but not sure if it correlates but I’ll look into the DNA appliance I was also looking into the palate expander and SARPE but ts is so expensive
 
I got a lot of shit on my nose on other posts lmao but yea I’ll look into I was thinking I could be lucky since I started puberty super late and but not sure if it correlates but I’ll look into the DNA appliance I was also looking into the palate expander and SARPE but ts is so expensive
yeah tbh you're lucky af for that, you just need some bone remodeling during your puberty years and something like a DNA or Homeoblock is the best, depends on your symptoms, you might have some if yuour maxilla is flat. Please ditch the expanders that split your suture, you just need to "develop into your ideal face structure". You have a similar side profile to Jordan Wood's old photos, maybe thumb pulling can work for you.
 
filler lasts around a year maybe more and implants are forever, id do it idk how much it would be tho
Yea I’ll look into it rn im a broke college kid so its something. That’d have to wait
 
yeah tbh you're lucky af for that, you just need some bone remodeling during your puberty years and something like a DNA or Homeoblock is the best, depends on your symptoms, you might have some if yuour maxilla is flat. Please ditch the expanders that split your suture, you just need to "develop into your ideal face structure". You have a similar side profile to Jordan Wood's old photos, maybe thumb pulling can work for you.
I think thumb pulling was confirmed cope but I looked up the DNA and I think I could talk to my dentist about it since it helps with TMJ and im going in soon to get checked for TMJ
 
you look fine enough. just live your life and dont worry about your genetics. a lot of mfs have it worse than you
Ik ik just a lot of insecurity tbh based on what I’ve been told and dealt with in life
 
I’m aware of my flaws I’m going to the dentist to try and ask for a palate expander but I wanna fix my eye area and side profile I don’t wanna get a rhinoplasty ik I have a shitty nose
this is a rough base bro yikes. blud is def not above average looking
 
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if hes above average looking then im chadlite JFL. :lul:
you can’t rate if you can’t see he’s above average,
and also you don’t go outside.

right @pfl ???
 
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you can’t rate if you can’t see he’s above average,
and also you don’t go outside.

right @pfl ???
okay then what would you rate me (face plus height halo) (6'2.5 barefoot) and still growing, i checked my growth plates. Im 16 btw Side profile is in pfp, this is front profile.
4898586 4897529 IMG 0308
 
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above him ,
Not by lots though.

Upper MTN - low HTN
Face only ,
I didn’t factor in height of course being 6’2 is a huge SMV boost, but is not included in a PSL face rate
 
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I’m aware of my flaws I’m going to the dentist to try and ask for a palate expander but I wanna fix my eye area and side profile I don’t wanna get a rhinoplasty ik I have a shitty nose
ur side profile cooks u, but mtn front, it’s never over bro
 
jaw downgrown and recessed. bimax
Even if he did that his eye area is terrible. U want him to spend thousands of dollars and look mid. He should prioritize his eyes, his jaw doesn’t look bad especially from the front even if it is downgrown.
 
I’m aware of my flaws I’m going to the dentist to try and ask for a palate expander but I wanna fix my eye area and side profile I don’t wanna get a rhinoplasty ik I have a shitty nose
u have a good base bro
 

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