1mg Adex vs 25mg Asin

[Napoleon1800]

Which is stronger when taken ED in suppressing E2?

@m0ss26
@Orka
@DR. NICKGA
@eon

 

[m0ss26]

Depends on person but efficacy wise it was around the same from my personal bloodwork. Asin is probably better though because its suicidal inhibitor.

I’m anti-AI though, especially when using HGH

 

[Napoleon1800]

Depends on person but efficacy wise it was around the same from my personal bloodwork. Asin is probably better though because its suicidal inhibitor.

I’m anti-AI though, especially when using HGH

how is Aromasin being suicidal better?

I’m using 70mg test a day (490mg a week) for 20 weeks + 10iu hgh

Natty e2 is 16.6pg/ml
I want to keep it at about 10-15pg/ml

 

[Napoleon1800]

@ybuyhgui

 

[m0ss26]

how is Aromasin being suicidal better?

I’m using 70mg test a day (490mg a week) for 20 weeks + 10iu hgh

Natty e2 is 16.6pg/ml
I want to keep it at about 10-15pg/ml

Asin destroys the aromatase enzyme versus adex that just binds to it and can come off. Essentially asin limits estrogen rebound.

Why do you want your e2 so low? Especially on 10iu hgh, you want your e2 high so you can maximize igf1 conversion.

 

[Napoleon1800]

Asin destroys the aromatase enzyme versus adex that just binds to it and can come off. Essentially asin limits estrogen rebound.

Why do you want your e2 so low? Especially on 10iu hgh, you want your e2 high so you can maximize igf1 conversion.

Estrogen rebound can be mitigated by tapering off or switching to Aromasin at the end of cycle

Don’t want my clavicle growth plates to close from e2

How is e2 relevant to igf-1 conversion. 10-15 is close to my natty base and is low enough without crashing

 

[m0ss26]

Don’t want my clavicle growth plates to close from e2

How is e2 relevant to igf-1 conversion. 10-15 is close to my natty base and is low enough without crashing

e2 is the mechanism of conversion from hgh to igf1. But really you can’t go wrong with either AI, although in your case i would slightly lean to the aromasin.

 

[Napoleon1800]

e2 is the mechanism of conversion from hgh to igf1. But really you can’t go wrong with either AI, although in your case i would slightly lean to the aromasin.

I originally thought Aromasin but I was thinking 1mg Adex because it being non suicidal means it can be easier to adjust dose if my dose is too low or high and because I thought it was stronger as typically at standard dosing (25mg asin vs 1mg Adex), I think Adex came out as a bit more suppressive though I wanted to see if anyone had more knowledge about this hence the post

 

[Napoleon1800]

@Aryan Incel
@Osie

 

[m0ss26]

I originally thought Aromasin but I was thinking 1mg Adex because it being non suicidal means it can be easier to dose if my dose is too low or high and because I thought it was stronger as typically at standard dosing (25mg asin vs 1mg Adex), I think Adex came out as a bit more suppressive though I wanted to see if anyone had more knowledge about this hence the post

Bodies are just too different, you have to test. Like you said, if you need to tweak/adjust your dose to find the sweetspot then adex is good too.

Like i said, for me personally both were around the same effect at those standard dosages.

Really though this is just getting into the weeds, you know enough already and whichever way you go you’ll be fine and figure it out.

 

[Napoleon1800]

Body’s are just too different, you have to test. Like you said, if you need to tweak/adjust your dose to find the sweetspot then adex is good too.

Like i said, for me personally both were around the same effect at those standard dosages.

Really though this is just getting into the weeds, you know enough already and whichever way you go you’ll be fine and figure it out.

Did you do bloodwork when you were on both? If you did what was your e2 levels?

 

[ybuyhgui]

Like i said, for me personally both were around the same effect at those standard dosages.

Pretty much the same for me, maybe radix very minimally stronger

Like you said, if you need to tweak/adjust your dose to find the sweetspot then adex is good too.

Yup

 

[m0ss26]

Did you do bloodwork when you were on both? If you did what was your e2 levels?

Both had me in the 11-12 pg/ml range (if i remember correctly) but I wasn’t using gear at the time, only GHRP+GHRH peptides. That was over 2 years ago

 

[Napoleon1800]

Both had me in the 11-12 pg/ml range (if i remember correctly) but I wasn’t using gear at the time, only GHRP+GHRH peptides. That was over 2 years ago

Have you ever done gear and AI together?

 

[m0ss26]

Have you ever done gear and AI together?

No, im a low aromatizer. I can run like a gram of test without getting any high E sides.

 

[Romxnus753AC]

how is Aromasin being suicidal better?

I’m using 70mg test a day (490mg a week) for 20 weeks + 10iu hgh

Natty e2 is 16.6pg/ml
I want to keep it at about 10-15pg/ml

why only 70 mg, isnt higher dosage in shorter time better

 

[m0ss26]

why only 70 mg, isnt higher dosage in shorter time better

He’s running 500 a week brother

 

[Napoleon1800]

No, im a low aromatizer. I can run like a gram of test without getting any high E sides.

The more I think about I may need letrozole for what I’m trying to do, I’m not sure if Adex or Asin would cut it, even at 1mg or 25mg a day

 

[m0ss26]

The more I think about I may need letrozole for what I’m trying to do, I’m not sure if Adex or Asin would cut it, even at 1mg or 25mg a day

Letrozole is the strongest of the bunch.

 

[Napoleon1800]

Letrozole is the strongest of the bunch.

The problem is I don’t know how much prone to aromatisation I am, and I do not want to risk not having my e2 kept low so I may have to go for the nuclear option because even if it crashes I think I can lower the dose or change AI, it’s better than it being too high and fucking over my framemaxxing plans

 

[m0ss26]

The problem is I don’t know how much prone to aromatisation I am, and I do not want to risk not having my e2 kept low so I may have to go for the nuclear option because even if it crashes I think I can lower the dose or change AI, it’s better than it being too high and fucking over my framemaxxing plans

Start low as fuck with the letrozole and work up. Do NOT do the opposite and start high trying to taper down.

 

[Napoleon1800]

Start low as fuck with the letrozole and work up. Do NOT do the opposite and start high trying to taper down.

I’m going to start with 0.3125mg ED (2.5mg pill split into 8)

 

[eon]

Studies dont show a significant difference when both doses were used for breast cancer

 

[eon]

Studies dont show a significant difference when both doses were used for breast cancer

@Napoleon1800 sorry for the typo, corrected.

 

[Zagro]

Studies dont show a significant difference when both doses were used for breast cancer

I don't think he's using it for breast cancer tbh

 

[Napoleon1800]

I don't think he's using it for breast cancer tbh

You never know!

 

[eon]

I don't think he's using it for breast cancer tbh

Im just noting the effectiveness of each dose mentioned with what i am provided.

 

[Zagro]

Im just noting the effectiveness of each dose mentioned with what i am provided.

I'm just joking around bub

 

[Napoleon1800]

I'm just joking around bub

Also can we chat briefly on discord if you have time?

 

[Zagro]

Also can we chat briefly on discord if you have time?

Sure bump the convo

 

[Napoleon1800]

Sure bump the convo

Done