20 Years old first Cycle (High IQ Nigs Respond Pls)

[BobDaDa]

I plan on pinning 250 mg of test e and blasting for life. 2 Pins a week (Monday and Thursday) I know i need HCG on the side but im not sure how much i need to pin and when to start pinning HCG with it, 2.5mg DUTASTERIDE a day. And having arimidex / aromasin on the side INCASE of high e2 levels. And i might run Retatrutide with it for just a little (1mg a week, 10mg vial) My questions are about the HCG, and which one (Armidex / Aromasin) to take and what the doses should be and when to take. I know i should get my bloodwork done 6 weeks into the cycle. But Please my nigs give me that knowledge on what i mentioned. Want to make sure I get this right.

 

[nicheroider]

If ur planning on TRT for life, hcg and hmg are pretty useless on cycle unless you want to be fertile or dont want testicular atrophy. If you do decide to use them while on gear id say something like 6 weeks on 200IU hcg 3x a week, then 4 weeks on 75iu HMG, alternate between those two. HCG can be less effective and work less optimally if you use it for too long, good to give receptors a break by alternating.

 

[chudpiller]

Most people would say Aromasin is better bc its a suicide inhibitor. For the ai its difficult to say what dosage you may need it depends from person to person. on 250 test you might not need one at all.

 

[exsttttt]

I plan on pinning 250 mg of test e and blasting for life. 2 Pins a week (Monday and Thursday) I know i need HCG on the side but im not sure how much i need to pin and when to start pinning HCG with it, 2.5mg DUTASTERIDE a day. And having arimidex / aromasin on the side INCASE of high e2 levels. And i might run Retatrutide with it for just a little (1mg a week, 10mg vial) My questions are about the HCG, and which one (Armidex / Aromasin) to take and what the doses should be and when to take. I know i should get my bloodwork done 6 weeks into the cycle. But Please my nigs give me that knowledge on what i mentioned. Want to make sure I get this right.

if your doing test WITH hcg on top of duta ur 99.99% gonna have high ass e2. ur introducing test on top of hcg that will induce intratesticular aromatization on top of a 5ar inhib, that WILL happen. if i was u id probably just use hcg from time to time, not indefinitly. when you do run hcg, prolly around 300 or so iu 3x per week for sometime. for the ai anastrozole and exemestane are both great but id lean to anastrozole.

 

[nicheroider]

I plan on pinning 250 mg of test e and blasting for life. 2 Pins a week (Monday and Thursday) I know i need HCG on the side but im not sure how much i need to pin and when to start pinning HCG with it, 2.5mg DUTASTERIDE a day. And having arimidex / aromasin on the side INCASE of high e2 levels. And i might run Retatrutide with it for just a little (1mg a week, 10mg vial) My questions are about the HCG, and which one (Armidex / Aromasin) to take and what the doses should be and when to take. I know i should get my bloodwork done 6 weeks into the cycle. But Please my nigs give me that knowledge on what i mentioned. Want to make sure I get this right.

for 250mg test you probably wont need an AI, if you do choose to do one though, I prefer aromasin for its stability long term. 6.25mg EOD would be good if needed. But you shouldnt have any over aromatization issues unless youre fat.

 

[big Rick]

250 test is legit pointless

 

[nicheroider]

I plan on pinning 250 mg of test e and blasting for life. 2 Pins a week (Monday and Thursday) I know i need HCG on the side but im not sure how much i need to pin and when to start pinning HCG with it, 2.5mg DUTASTERIDE a day. And having arimidex / aromasin on the side INCASE of high e2 levels. And i might run Retatrutide with it for just a little (1mg a week, 10mg vial) My questions are about the HCG, and which one (Armidex / Aromasin) to take and what the doses should be and when to take. I know i should get my bloodwork done 6 weeks into the cycle. But Please my nigs give me that knowledge on what i mentioned. Want to make sure I get this right.

Also id up the test from 250 to 300mg, remove DUT and instead use topical RU-58841 and 2.5mg oral minox for hair, i think DHT will still play a decent part in facial masculinization at 20. If you have questions about supports and ancillaries as well you can lmk

 

[nicheroider]

250 test is legit pointless

not pointless, but not really a "cycle" more like TRT+.

 

[chudpiller]

not pointless, but not really a "cycle" more like TRT+.

fr idk why op says hes gonna blast for life

 

[nicheroider]

fr idk why op says hes gonna blast for life

yeah the usage of the word "blast" was amusing to me JFL

 

[BobDaDa]

If ur planning on TRT for life, hcg and hmg are pretty useless on cycle unless you want to be fertile or dont want testicular atrophy. If you do decide to use them while on gear id say something like 6 weeks on 200IU hcg 3x a week, then 4 weeks on 75iu HMG, alternate between those two. HCG can be less effective and work less optimally if you use it for too long, good to give receptors a break by alternating.

Im confused, a lot of people say to take HCG with test because its needed. And 6 weeks during the start of the cycle? Then I would stop taking and when i would hop back on HCG again?

Edit: just reread what you said, so you're saying to alter from HCG and HMG (Never heard of HMG) but bascially 6 weeks on, 4 weeks off HCG and do HMG, Then after 4 weeks go back to HCG? And do that for basically life?

 

[BobDaDa]

if your doing test WITH hcg on top of duta ur 99.99% gonna have high ass e2. ur introducing test on top of hcg that will induce intratesticular aromatization on top of a 5ar inhib, that WILL happen. if i was u id probably just use hcg from time to time, not indefinitly. when you do run hcg, prolly around 300 or so iu 3x per week for sometime. for the ai anastrozole and exemestane are both great but id lean to anastrozole.

Interesting, ive never heard anyone mention those two ai's, its always arimidex or aromasin. But i would only need to take those if i show high levels of e2. That being said, you're saying to hop on and off from time to time, when should it be exactly? If i could have your experience with HCG thatd be appreciated. I plan on taking test for life since theres no point in PCT.

 

[BobDaDa]

Also id up the test from 250 to 300mg, remove DUT and instead use topical RU-58841 and 2.5mg oral minox for hair, i think DHT will still play a decent part in facial masculinization at 20. If you have questions about supports and ancillaries as well you can lmk

Most people use DUT but i will definitely look into this thank you

 

[BobDaDa]

yeah the usage of the word "blast" was amusing to me JFL

haha i know i was saying im not gonna be natty after i start using test

 

[nicheroider]

Interesting, ive never heard anyone mention those two ai's, its always arimidex or aromasin. But i would only need to take those if i show high levels of e2. That being said, you're saying to hop on and off from time to time, when should it be exactly? If i could have your experience with HCG thatd be appreciated. I plan on taking test for life since theres no point in PCT.

Anastrozole is Arimidex, and Exemestane is Aromasin. Those are the chemical names, aromasin and arimidex are brand names.

 

[exsttttt]

Interesting, ive never heard anyone mention those two ai's, its always arimidex or aromasin. But i would only need to take those if i show high levels of e2. That being said, you're saying to hop on and off from time to time, when should it be exactly? If i could have your experience with HCG thatd be appreciated. I plan on taking test for life since theres no point in PCT.

arimidex is anastrozole and aromasin is exemestane btw. and hcg, take it like every 3 months for 4 weeks u should be good to go.

 

[BobDaDa]

arimidex is anastrozole and aromasin is exemestane btw. and hcg, take it like every 3 months for 4 weeks u should be good to go.

Thank you okay got it so. HCG is only needed every 3 months for around 4-6 weeks at 300 or so iu 3x per week. As for what nicheroider said if my e2 levels are high, aromasin for its stability long term. 6.25mg EOD

Edit: also as for the 300 IU 3x per week, does that mean injecting about 300iu a week for 3 pins of the week? Meaning 100 IU a pin?

 

[BobDaDa]

Also another question (sry just rlly want to make sure i got everything right) When would yall start the HCG. 6 weeks after pinning test? 12 weeks? Just want to know

 

[Newday*V3]

You don’t need an AI at 250mg, 250mg is basically trt

 

[exsttttt]

Thank you okay got it so. HCG is only needed every 3 months for around 4-6 weeks at 300 or so iu 3x per week. As for what nicheroider said if my e2 levels are high, aromasin for its stability long term. 6.25mg EOD

Edit: also as for the 300 IU 3x per week, does that mean injecting about 300iu a week for 3 pins of the week? Meaning 100 IU a pin?

no 300iu each pin

 

[exsttttt]

You don’t need an AI at 250mg, 250mg is basically trt

if you have normal dht and testicular shutdown yes, not while blasting dut and hcg getting raped from both sides.

 

[Newday*V3]

if you have normal dht and testicular shutdown yes, not while blasting dut and hcg getting raped from both sides.

and this isnt a cycle/blast, 250mg test is nothing

 

[BobDaDa]

no 300iu each pin

Gotchu, From what youve told me, I should take HCG after 3 months of pinning test, and only do it for 4 weeks with 300IU 3x a week. Every 3 months and i should be good correct?

 

[exsttttt]

and this isnt a cycle/blast, 250mg test is nothing

its not much sure, but inhibiting dht + hcg ( regaining testicular aromatization) would induce signficantly higher e2 than just test on its own.

 

[exsttttt]

Gotchu, From what youve told me, I should take HCG after 3 months of pinning test, and only do it for 4 weeks with 300IU 3x a week. Every 3 months and i should be good correct?

yee

 

[BobDaDa]

Also id up the test from 250 to 300mg, remove DUT and instead use topical RU-58841 and 2.5mg oral minox for hair, i think DHT will still play a decent part in facial masculinization at 20. If you have questions about supports and ancillaries as well you can lmk

If i use the topical RU-58841 and 2.5mg oral minox for hair, how long should i be doing it? Is the 2.5mg minox every day? For how long? Also the doses for topical RU-58841? I turn 21 next month by the way, all i know about DUT is that everybody mentions its the strongest with the least side effects. And that DHT is useless after puberty. Again im planning on being on TRT for life so i wanna just know how yall do it. Thanks