23m looking for hardmaxxing advice

[good_king_alex]

Looking for constructive advice, rather than rating. I've implemented/ started to implement all of the soft maxxes that actually work.

So now I am looking for hard-maxxing advice. Which hardmaxxes would give me the greatest ROI?

Particularly interested in the cheaper hardmaxxes such as fillers, so where would filler benefit me most?

Thanks guys.

P.s. Due to lighting I am slightly squinting and furrowing my brows

 

[Deleted member 332573]

Looking for constructive advice, rather than rating. I've implemented/ started to implement all of the soft maxxes that actually work.

So now I am looking for hard-maxxing advice. Which hardmaxxes would give me the greatest ROI?

Particularly interested in the cheaper hardmaxxes such as fillers, so where would filler benefit me most?

Thanks guys.

P.s. Due to lighting I am slightly squinting and furrowing my brows

Genio and jaw angle & zygo implants

 

[ihatefoids88]

bimax

 

[good_king_alex]

Genio and jaw angle & zygo implants

So you think that my lower third is the most in need of surgery, as opposed to my middle or upper?

 

[good_king_alex]

bimax

Thanks for the reply. Please justify why you think that

 

[Deleted member 332573]

So you think that my lower third is the most in need of surgery, as opposed to my middle or upper?

Yes it’s a little recessed

 

[ihatefoids88]

Thanks for the reply. Please justify why you think that

mandible and maxilla are recessed

 

[good_king_alex]

Yes it’s a little recessed

Okay thanks for your recommendations. Can filler help with this, until I am able to afford proper surgery?

 

[Yahya]

not a hardmaxx but please dye your eyelashes and eyebrows and just hair in general

 

[Deleted member 332573]

Okay thanks for your recommendations. Can filler help with this, until I am able to afford proper surgery?

I wouldn’t suggest filler just buy some steroids and hop on then go ahead for surgery

 

[good_king_alex]

not a hardmaxx but please dye your eyelashes and eyebrows and just hair in general

Thanks for the input. What colour and shade would you recommend for me? Because to my skin tone etc I think going too dark would look uncanny and be a mismatch.

 

[good_king_alex]

I wouldn’t suggest filler just buy some steroids and hop on then go ahead for surgery

How would steroids help, since my plates are closed? Am planning on hopping on trt asap anyway though.

 

[Deleted member 332573]

How would steroids help, since my plates are closed? Am planning on hopping on trt asap anyway though.

masculinization Also achieving better body

 

[Van]

Looking for constructive advice, rather than rating. I've implemented/ started to implement all of the soft maxxes that actually work.

So now I am looking for hard-maxxing advice. Which hardmaxxes would give me the greatest ROI?

Particularly interested in the cheaper hardmaxxes such as fillers, so where would filler benefit me most?

Thanks guys.

P.s. Due to lighting I am slightly squinting and furrowing my brows

twin let's link up we can maybe get a discount two bimaxes for the price of one

 

[SharpOrange]

Looking for constructive advice, rather than rating. I've implemented/ started to implement all of the soft maxxes that actually work.

So now I am looking for hard-maxxing advice. Which hardmaxxes would give me the greatest ROI?

Particularly interested in the cheaper hardmaxxes such as fillers, so where would filler benefit me most?

Thanks guys.

P.s. Due to lighting I am slightly squinting and furrowing my brows

you ever had gf or khhv? its over sorry

 

[Orka]

Thanks for the reply. Please justify why you think that

You're talking to children on this forum, these are kids that just see issues and instantly assume implants or filler.

Your eyes aren't great, you've got some upper eyelid exposure and they're too close set.

The biggest ROI you'll get is going to be eye related, you need to consult doctors for this kind of stuff.

Canthoplasty isn't a bad shout, this along with thicker and darker eyebrows & lashes would make your eye area above average.

But the main reason women might not take you as seriously as you want them to is because of your eyes, they're the first thing people look at and your eye area isn't amazing

Dye all of your hair dark brown & dye your eyebrows 2 shades darker, then dye your eyelashes with beard dye (normal hair dye won't work).

Watch out for typing styles, join dates, reputation etc. when taking advice, there are many 14 year olds that you don't want to trust your future with.

Consult surgeons before doing this stuff, some places offer to do morphs (edited images) of what you'd look like after the procedure, this would help you visualize it a lot.

Canthoplasty can be between 2-5k USD.

 

[Yahya]

How would steroids help, since my plates are closed? Am planning on hopping on trt asap anyway though.

ignore this retard
also trt is cope

 

[good_king_alex]

you ever had gf or khhv? its over sorry

Not looking for your negativity. If you think its over youve spent too much time on a computer.

 

[Deleted member 307488]

jaw angle

Useless.

I wouldn’t suggest filler just buy some steroids

Never give any suggestion again faggot

Looking for constructive advice, rather than rating. I've implemented/ started to implement all of the soft maxxes that actually work.

So now I am looking for hard-maxxing advice. Which hardmaxxes would give me the greatest ROI?

Particularly interested in the cheaper hardmaxxes such as fillers, so where would filler benefit me most?

Thanks guys.

P.s. Due to lighting I am slightly squinting and furrowing my brows

Brow ridge implant or filler
BSSO (mandatory) with genioplasty (optional)
Rhinoplasty

Non-exaggerated zygomatic implants could be considered, but in this case I would strongly recommend using a low amount of filler for both the zygomatic arches and the gonial angles instead.

 

[Van]

You're talking to children on this forum, these are kids that just see issues and instantly assume implants or filler.

Your eyes aren't great, you've got some upper eyelid exposure and they're too close set.

The biggest ROI you'll get is going to be eye related, you need to consult doctors for this kind of stuff.

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Canthoplasty isn't a bad shout, this along with thicker and darker eyebrows & lashes would make your eye area above average.

But the main reason women might not take you as seriously as you want them to is because of your eyes, they're the first thing people look at and your eye area isn't amazing

Dye all of your hair dark brown & dye your eyebrows 2 shades darker, then dye your eyelashes with beard dye (normal hair dye won't work).

Watch out for typing styles, join dates, reputation etc. when taking advice, there are many 14 year olds that you don't want to trust your future with.

Consult surgeons before doing this stuff, some places offer to do morphs (edited images) of what you'd look like after the procedure, this would help you visualize it a lot.

Canthoplasty can be between 2-5k USD.

The two best things he can do right now are literally double jaw and rhino

 

[Orka]

I wouldn’t suggest filler just buy some steroids and hop on then go ahead for surgery

Delete your account ASAP, you are a net negative to this forum

 

[good_king_alex]

You're talking to children on this forum, these are kids that just see issues and instantly assume implants or filler.

Your eyes aren't great, you've got some upper eyelid exposure and they're too close set.

The biggest ROI you'll get is going to be eye related, you need to consult doctors for this kind of stuff.

View attachment 4594228
Canthoplasty isn't a bad shout, this along with thicker and darker eyebrows & lashes would make your eye area above average.

But the main reason women might not take you as seriously as you want them to is because of your eyes, they're the first thing people look at and your eye area isn't amazing

Dye all of your hair dark brown & dye your eyebrows 2 shades darker, then dye your eyelashes with beard dye (normal hair dye won't work).

Watch out for typing styles, join dates, reputation etc. when taking advice, there are many 14 year olds that you don't want to trust your future with.

Consult surgeons before doing this stuff, some places offer to do morphs (edited images) of what you'd look like after the procedure, this would help you visualize it a lot.

Canthoplasty can be between 2-5k USD.

Thanks for your reassurance. For my skin tone, phenotype etc, what hair shade would you recommend. I think going dark can sometimes backfire on people who are fair skinned.

 

[Orka]

The two best things he can do right now are literally double jaw and rhino

Rhinoplasty is a good idea, but you're saying double jaw as if its something you can just afford instantly

OP has already mentioned that he would need to save for surgery, why would you recommend DJ?

His eye area is bad & eyes are the most important feature on your face

Useless.

Never give any suggestion again faggot

Brow ridge implant or filler
BSSO (mandatory) with genioplasty (optional)
Rhinoplasty

Non-exaggerated zygomatic implants could be considered, but in this case I would strongly recommend using a low amount of filler for both the zygomatic arches and the gonial angles instead.

^ Good experienced user, listen to his advice OP

Thanks for your reassurance. For my skin tone, phenotype etc, what hair shade would you recommend. I think going dark can sometimes backfire on people who are fair skinned.

You need to get tanned first

 

[Orka]

you ever had gf or khhv? its over sorry

garbage user

 

[Van]

Rhinoplasty is a good idea, but you're saying double jaw as if its something you can just afford instantly

OP has already mentioned that he would need to save for surgery, why would you recommend DJ?

His eye area is bad & eyes are the most important feature on your face

^ Good experienced user, listen to his advice OP

You need to get tanned first

Brother are you blind? Just take a look at his facial convexity, you can instantly tell that his maxilla and mandible are recessed

Im just saying what's the best ROI for his face. Obviously he can get other surgeries as well but DJ is something that can move the needle

 

[Orka]

Brother are you blind? Just take a look at his facial convexity, you can instantly tell that his maxilla and mandible are recessed

Im just saying what's the best ROI for his face. Obviously he can get other surgeries as well but DJ is something that can move the needle

Particularly interested in the cheaper hardmaxxes

^^

Midface filler, jaw filler, chin filler would be better shouts, I'm not trying to shame you for mentioning it, just saying you should try and stick to a budget when recommending things

 

[Van]

^^

Midface filler, jaw filler, chin filler would be better shouts, I'm not trying to shame you for mentioning it, just saying you should try and stick to a budget when recommending things

Filler is something I've done in the past and whilst it's good short term ascension sooner or later you'll have to deal with the underlying issue aka bone mass

 

[good_king_alex]

Brother are you blind? Just take a look at his facial convexity, you can instantly tell that his maxilla and mandible are recessed

Im just saying what's the best ROI for his face. Obviously he can get other surgeries as well but DJ is something that can move the needle

Perhaps but as I explained in my post, I do not have the money for this. I'm looking for what can i do for less than 5k (total spend). But thanks for your input I will take note.

 

[Orka]

sooner or later you'll have to deal with the underlying issue aka bone mass

why would this be the case? Filler, dissolve after a year or two, re-inject?

 

[Legend08]

You're talking to children on this forum, these are kids that just see issues and instantly assume implants or filler.

Your eyes aren't great, you've got some upper eyelid exposure and they're too close set.

The biggest ROI you'll get is going to be eye related, you need to consult doctors for this kind of stuff.

View attachment 4594228
Canthoplasty isn't a bad shout, this along with thicker and darker eyebrows & lashes would make your eye area above average.

But the main reason women might not take you as seriously as you want them to is because of your eyes, they're the first thing people look at and your eye area isn't amazing

Dye all of your hair dark brown & dye your eyebrows 2 shades darker, then dye your eyelashes with beard dye (normal hair dye won't work).

Watch out for typing styles, join dates, reputation etc. when taking advice, there are many 14 year olds that you don't want to trust your future with.

Consult surgeons before doing this stuff, some places offer to do morphs (edited images) of what you'd look like after the procedure, this would help you visualize it a lot.

Canthoplasty can be between 2-5k USD.

I'd say in his case a latteral canthopexy with infra and supraorbital fatgrafting is better than a canthoplasty alone he already has a pct and he doesn't have droopy eyes

 

[Van]

Perhaps but as I explained in my post, I do not have the money for this. I'm looking for what can i do for less than 5k (total spend). But thanks for your input I will take note.

Im not saying this to come as hostile but actually I have similar side profile as you so I know pretty well what's best for this specific case

 

[Legend08]

Looking for constructive advice, rather than rating. I've implemented/ started to implement all of the soft maxxes that actually work.

So now I am looking for hard-maxxing advice. Which hardmaxxes would give me the greatest ROI?

Particularly interested in the cheaper hardmaxxes such as fillers, so where would filler benefit me most?

Thanks guys.

P.s. Due to lighting I am slightly squinting and furrowing my brows

Canthopexy, fatgrafting to the infras and supras, genioplasty and a alarplasty

 

[Van]

why would this be the case? Filler, dissolve after a year or two, re-inject?

fillers cannot correct structural problems, if you have short face due to recession

they can mask it on the outside but when you make facial expressions the problem becomes evident

 

[good_king_alex]

I massivelt appreicate you guys indepth and high effort comments. You are legends. This forum can be quite destructive sometimes so thanks.

I also asked Looksmaxxing ChatGPT to do an analysis. It said my priority should be facial leaness, filler around eye area, and chin filler / implant. Considering I can't afford most the surgeries that have been suggested, is this a good initial plan? @Orka @Van @Legend08 @Zuffster @Yahya

 

[iwantuinsideme]

- your hairline is receding - so you need finasteride
- jaw and chin filler - radiesse, the nonsense above filler not doing xyz isn't quite true re the jaw
- you're not getting obvious under eye hollowing but you're heading htis way over the next 10-15 years, so you should start doing some prf a couple of times a year, it will make the under eyes look less tired in general
- your haircut is also terrible - and it doesn't look as thoug you're using products properly
- upper bleph for the hooded eyelids - minor procedure
- you should also consider starting mini botox - you're getting 11s line already subtly, and the forehead lines will start coming in
- you also need a tan - fake tan is fine
- lose bodyfat - you need to lose at least 10-15lbs minimum
- dye eyebrows and maybe even hair
- then a subtle rhinoplasty and alarplasty but this si the most expensive

 

[Yahya]

I massivelt appreicate you guys indepth and high effort comments. You are legends. This forum can be quite destructive sometimes so thanks.

I also asked Looksmaxxing ChatGPT to do an analysis. It said my priority should be facial leaness, filler around eye area, and chin filler / implant. Considering I can't afford most the surgeries that have been suggested, is this a good initial plan? @Orka @Van @Legend08 @Zuffster @Yahya

chatgpt isn't reliable at all don't use ai for such matters use the thread search option and base your opinion on past experiences

 

[iwantuinsideme]

I massivelt appreicate you guys indepth and high effort comments. You are legends. This forum can be quite destructive sometimes so thanks.

I also asked Looksmaxxing ChatGPT to do an analysis. It said my priority should be facial leaness, filler around eye area, and chin filler / implant. Considering I can't afford most the surgeries that have been suggested, is this a good initial plan? @Orka @Van @Legend08 @Zuffster @Yahya

no filler around the eye is a terrible idea at your age. prf as i said. that ha filler can migrate a bit over time.

 

[good_king_alex]

no filler around the eye is a terrible idea at your age. prf as i said. that ha filler can migrate a bit over time.

what is prf?

 

[Orka]

I massivelt appreicate you guys indepth and high effort comments. You are legends. This forum can be quite destructive sometimes so thanks.

I also asked Looksmaxxing ChatGPT to do an analysis. It said my priority should be facial leaness, filler around eye area, and chin filler / implant. Considering I can't afford most the surgeries that have been suggested, is this a good initial plan? @Orka @Van @Legend08 @Zuffster @Yahya

I would go with canthoplasty or canthopexy rather than filler, if you go to the right place it can fit into your 5k budget along with other stuff (2-3.5k), the ROI on this is big.

then you can get chin filler pretty easily. I actually DIY'd my own chin filler for like $60 lol

 

[good_king_alex]

ignore this retard
also trt is cope

why do you think TRT is cope?

 

[WonkyChin186]

Looking for constructive advice, rather than rating. I've implemented/ started to implement all of the soft maxxes that actually work.

So now I am looking for hard-maxxing advice. Which hardmaxxes would give me the greatest ROI?

Particularly interested in the cheaper hardmaxxes such as fillers, so where would filler benefit me most?

Thanks guys.

P.s. Due to lighting I am slightly squinting and furrowing my brows

Rhino

 

[zemult]

bimax

Bimax in this case is low ROI. Not significantly recessed. Wouldn't be surprised if he ended up like this Bimax case:

Niggas just spam muh bimax even when the odds are that you’ll be $30k down the drain with no real improvement

 

[ihatefoids88]

Bimax in this case is low ROI. Not significantly recessed. Wouldn't be surprised if he ended up like this Bimax case:

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Niggas just spam muh bimax even when the odds are that you’ll be $30k down the drain with no real improvement

bimax though

 

[good_king_alex]

Bimax in this case is low ROI. Not significantly recessed. Wouldn't be surprised if he ended up like this Bimax case:

View attachment 4597097

Niggas just spam muh bimax even when the odds are that you’ll be $30k down the drain with no real improvement

yeh imagen paying 30k for literally no difference. that would be soul destroying

 

[Yahya]

why do you think TRT is cope?

Just to make sure we talk about the same thing, TRT is testosterone replacement therapy. It's a low dosage of testosterone per week that is either given to mentally ill trannies who wish that they could become men with such low dosage, or seniors who can't get their cocks hard. It's usually in the range of 75-150mg. Such low dosage won't get you any significant result if you're looking to improve your dimorphism and get a lot of muscle gains. I'm on TRT because I use it as a base for my oral cycle. You should be blasting 500mg weekly with 0.5mg arimidex EOD, that would be a good first cycle.

 

[Yahya]

yeh imagen paying 30k for literally no difference. that would be soul destroying

Bimax in this case is low ROI. Not significantly recessed. Wouldn't be surprised if he ended up like this Bimax case:

View attachment 4597097

Niggas just spam muh bimax even when the odds are that you’ll be $30k down the drain with no real improvement

I need to find that one stupid retard in france who got bimax for 20-30k and is still horrifyingly ugly because of his eye area

 

[good_king_alex]

Just to make sure we talk about the same thing, TRT is testosterone replacement therapy. It's a low dosage of testosterone per week that is either given to mentally ill trannies who wish that they could become men with such low dosage, or seniors who can't get their cocks hard. It's usually in the range of 75-150mg. Such low dosage won't get you any significant result if you're looking to improve your dimorphism and get a lot of muscle gains. I'm on TRT because I use it as a base for my oral cycle. You should be blasting 500mg weekly with 0.5mg arimidex EOD, that would be a good first cycle.

Yeh im looking to do something closer to the latter. Going to start a conversation with you, maybe you could give me some advice.

 

[Yahya]

Yeh im looking to do something closer to the latter. Going to start a conversation with you, maybe you could give me some advice.

of course hmu

 

[good_king_alex]

Useless.

Never give any suggestion again faggot

Brow ridge implant or filler
BSSO (mandatory) with genioplasty (optional)
Rhinoplasty

Non-exaggerated zygomatic implants could be considered, but in this case I would strongly recommend using a low amount of filler for both the zygomatic arches and the gonial angles instead.

For now i'm going down the fillers route. What specifically should i ask for with the zgyos and gonial? e.g. placement, amount, specifics

Thanks

 

[good_king_alex]

Is it worth trying to correct my slight asymmetry with filler? One of my jaws is more angular , the other wider. Its very subtle, so perhaps more chance of creating further asymmetrry?