24yo, Overbite, recessed jaw, small chin

[Sickchuck]

Through out my life I wondered why my friends who I thought were on the same attractiveness level as me always recieved far more positive attention from women.
I now see that this is the answer.

I checked a lot of posts and it seems that I have the worst recessed jaw and chin here.

I'm unemployed and I'm cursed to live in agony as a birdcel. Everywhere I check, jaw enlargement surgery costs 30000-50000$

Which countries atm have cheaper but safe jaw surgery. Could genioplasty slightly improve my lower 3d?

 

[thereallegend]

It’s over for you

 

[PURE ARYAN GENETICS]

same except I'm 28

 

[buflek]

italy, one of the best surgeons charges around 15k for bimax (and genio?)

 

[Gerardwayfan]

wow man, your story is very similar to mine. I always thought a good jaw was unimportant looks wise, but then i got rejected a bit and wondered wtf was going on, now i have all the answers . ANyways, you are not too badly recessed, its bad but not too bad

 

[Bitchwhipper2]

Get on minox and just beardfraud ez

 

[bogii]

go to India @Birdcell has good bimax result from there

 

[bogii]

but now fr, do you have health care in your country? they should cover it.

 

[Deleted member 18361]

Sorry bud. You have a very deep bite from a short mandible or both your jaws are short from short face syndrome.

Next option is to go to a local orthodontist or dental office and get x-ray scans done of your skull. Consult with a bimax factory low-end crooked Italian surgeon and send them your scans for the most useless evaluation, but it’s really to get the gateway to bimax.

Weeks ahead, you will finally book the flight to see beautiful Rome! but it’s really some cold shit hole. He will perform the bimax on you and your life has somehow changed slightly because your jaws have been repositioned by some guy people on a website told you to get cut open by.

Then you start questioning your past year and how your brain was so foggy from all this washing.

 

[jabaduk]

Through out my life I wondered why my friends who I thought were on the same attractiveness level as me always recieved far more positive attention from women.
I now see that this is the answer.
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I checked a lot of posts and it seems that I have the worst recessed jaw and chin here.

I'm unemployed and I'm cursed to live in agony as a birdcel. Everywhere I check, jaw enlargement surgery costs 30000-50000$

Which countries atm have cheaper but safe jaw surgery. Could genioplasty slightly improve my lower 3d?

If you have nice hunter eyes I think you are mtn/htn

 

[CtrlAltDelete]

italy, one of the best surgeons charges around 15k for bimax (and genio?)

euro or usd?

 

[ifyouwannabemylover]

bimax or ldar

 

[UglyGod360]

Genio and msdo should fix u up

 

[Patient A]

I'm unemployed and I'm cursed to live in agony as a birdcel. Everywhere I check, jaw enlargement surgery costs 30000-50000$

It’s… over

 

[exeight]

you look fat? i mean maybe lower BF?
or get surgery? id im not a doc lol

 

[Deleted member 1660]

I recommend jutting for the rest of your life.

 

[sergeant blackpill]

mogs.me bro

 

[Deleted member 15004]

get surgeries done in third world countries then

 

[Sickchuck]

but now fr, do you have health care in your country? they should cover it.

I don't, I live in the US.

wow man, your story is very similar to mine. I always thought a good jaw was unimportant looks wise, but then i got rejected a bit and wondered wtf was going on, now i have all the answers . ANyways, you are not too badly recessed, its bad but not too bad

Is your recessed jaw as bad as mine? Did people comment your subhuman jaw and chin? I never got comments about that. However when I would talk to women irl(approach at bars, class etc) they would give 1 word replies and immediately look away after I talked to them. When my friends said the same things, women would turn bubbly and keep conversations.

I recommend jutting for the rest of your life.

I'm trying to do that. If I push my jaw as low as possible (so my teeth don't clench) I look slightly less subhuman. When I'm on meth or Adderall, it's easier to just hours straight but I lose concentration often and I can't study well.

My frontal image looks a lot less ugly, so I always fraud in photos by never having a side profile. I guess that explains why I get dates from time to time but I always get rejected or ghosted after the 1st date.

Being a birdcel is worse than being 5'5. The darkest skinned Manley curry mogs me because Indians have great jawlines and big chins.

Does jutting damage your jaw cartilage though?

 

[Stopping@Nothing19]

welcome to the forum, you're in the right place

 

[lepo2317]

Nofap + mewing + cold showers

 

[Gerardwayfan]

Is your recessed jaw as bad as mine? Did people comment your subhuman jaw and chin? I never got comments about that. However when I would talk to women irl(approach at bars, class etc) they would give 1 word replies and immediately look away after I talked to them. When my friends said the same things, women would turn bubbly and keep conversation

Yea it looks similar to yours, mb ur chin is more pointy which in a way it makes it look as if you have more forward growth but at the same time its a bit weird, idk how to explains it.
Some women react neutrally to me, some dont wanna have anything to do with me, my front face doesnt even look too bad but the side profile its horrendous

 

[needjawsurgery]

Through out my life I wondered why my friends who I thought were on the same attractiveness level as me always recieved far more positive attention from women.
I now see that this is the answer.
View attachment 1651020

I checked a lot of posts and it seems that I have the worst recessed jaw and chin here.

I'm unemployed and I'm cursed to live in agony as a birdcel. Everywhere I check, jaw enlargement surgery costs 30000-50000$

Which countries atm have cheaper but safe jaw surgery. Could genioplasty slightly improve my lower 3d?

exact same as mine bro. you need braces + bimax + genio ASAP. Jutting makes you look slightly better from the front profile but its not the answer. You will not live a normal life until you get this done

you look fat? i mean maybe lower BF?
or get surgery? id im not a doc lol

he's not fat its just the recession and short face syndrome

 

[Deleted member 16380]

wow man, your story is very similar to mine. I always thought a good jaw was unimportant looks wise, but then i got rejected a bit and wondered wtf was going on, now i have all the answers . ANyways, you are not too badly recessed, its bad but not too bad

Still, he will have to bimax-break his jaw...

If you are a bird, you are a bird... no way to fly without breaking bones first

 

[Deleted member 16380]

Through out my life I wondered why my friends who I thought were on the same attractiveness level as me always recieved far more positive attention from women.
I now see that this is the answer.
View attachment 1651020

I checked a lot of posts and it seems that I have the worst recessed jaw and chin here.

I'm unemployed and I'm cursed to live in agony as a birdcel. Everywhere I check, jaw enlargement surgery costs 30000-50000$

Which countries atm have cheaper but safe jaw surgery. Could genioplasty slightly improve my lower 3d?

No, genioplasty will not help. You need something much worse. Google bimax. I think you would need to break both jaws unfortunately.

This is dangerous, painful, and expensive. But unfortunately, no other way for you.

You might also need to somehow widen the jaw/get jaw angle implant. I do not think bimax will help you with the jaw corner. But idk, if this can be done during the procedure too...

As for the countries, i would suggest Italy, Brazil, Spain. This is where most poorcel people here do their bonesmashing

 

[PURE ARYAN GENETICS]

it's just your game bro I've seen worse with stacies

 

[Gerardwayfan]

does side profile even matter anyways?

 

[Mongrelcel]

it's your submental region that's giga garbage, and yes your jaws also are recessed
I see you're a fat fucker, can't see exactly, but lose the weight and see what changes

 

[Deleted member 1660]

I had the exact same issue as you do. However, I do know a way to potentially fix your overbite naturally. The majority of my overbite was due to my crooked canines which would block my jaw coming forward therefore prevent it from giving in length and making it recessed. My orthodontist gave me a retainer for orthodontic treatment on my lower jaw and I used it to push my canines even though that was not meant for it. I went from a 7mm to a 3.75mm. I recommend you buy a mouth guard so you can put it in your lower jaw and push your upper front maxilla for CCW Rotation. I am 15 by the way, so results may be different for you.

While you are doing this, I recommend you mew, and even though it may not work, it will allow you keep your lips sealed and nose breathe. Also make sure to supplement with proper nutrition as well. Get Calcium, Magnesium, Zinc supplement made by a company called "Nature's Bounty". Get Vitamin D3 5000 IU pack made by a company called "Bio Tech". And lastly get vitamin+k2+mk4+and+mk7, which is probably the most important nutrient because it uses calcium to actually add on to bone. The company for this supplement I am reccomending should be called "Bronson."

Here are the supplement links including the retainer:

1. Amazon product ASIN B002BXAMJS
2. Amazon product ASIN B00NGMJRTE
3. Amazon product ASIN B01K33AQNO
4. Amazon product ASIN B0779MTZDL
Where the mouth guard about 19 hours a day and make sure to chew mastic gum as well.

Here is the link for that:
Amazon product ASIN B08L9MWKVS

 

[Lawton88]

does side profile even matter anyways?

I have always wondered that myself but a lot of guys seem to think females dump them after the first couple of meetings due to figuring it out. Not sure if that has some truth to it or if they are just thinking that is the reason.

 

[Sickchuck]

Yea it looks similar to yours, mb ur chin is more pointy which in a way it makes it look as if you have more forward growth but at the same time its a bit weird, idk how to explains it.
Some women react neutrally to me, some dont wanna have anything to do with me, my front face doesnt even look too bad but the side profile its horrendous

Fuck I'm sorry. It's a similar experience with me

I have always wondered that myself but a lot of guys seem to think females dump them after the first couple of meetings due to figuring it out. Not sure if that has some truth to it or if they are just thinking that is the reason.

It's probably a subconscious reason. Basically they can easily find another guy with otherwise the same qualities, but a better jaw, and they'll take the guy that has even a single better trait than me.

it's your submental region that's giga garbage, and yes your jaws also are recessed
I see you're a fat fucker, can't see exactly, but lose the weight and see what changes

I'm skinny fat. My cheeks are just pudgy. I'm also worried about my turkey neck which I can hide a bit if I keep gulping(actually helps a lot with my side profile).