300mg test at 15

[hopefulllarp]

Im gonna do a 12week "cycle" of 300mg of test E and 6 ius of growth hormone at 15 and because of my young age I wanna do a decent Pct to not fuck up my body.
This is what im looking for:

-While the cycle 300mgs of hcg which is stopped after 14 days of the last test inj.
-50mg of clomid Week 1-2 after the 14 days going down to 25mg in week 3-4
-and 20mg of Nolvadex week 1-4

What would you change?
Im 181cm and 71kg

 

[childishkillah]

Hop on a 20 week cycle at least tbh

 

[InspiredByClav]

Im gonna do a 12week "cycle" of 300mg of test E and 6 ius of growth hormone at 15 and because of my young age I wanna do a decent Pct to not fuck up my body.
This is what im looking for:

-While the cycle 300mgs of hcg which is stopped after 14 days of the last test inj.
-50mg of clomid Week 1-2 after the 14 days going down to 25mg in week 3-4
-and 20mg of Nolvadex week 1-4

What would you change?
Im 181cm and 71kg

Great idea

 

[00adriman00]

Im gonna do a 12week "cycle" of 300mg of test E and 6 ius of growth hormone at 15 and because of my young age I wanna do a decent Pct to not fuck up my body.
This is what im looking for:

-While the cycle 300mgs of hcg which is stopped after 14 days of the last test inj.
-50mg of clomid Week 1-2 after the 14 days going down to 25mg in week 3-4
-and 20mg of Nolvadex week 1-4

What would you change?
Im 181cm and 71kg

good and post results please or give updates

 

[dragomog]

ofc its worth it but do it for more weeks or up to 500 even

 

[hopefulllarp]

ofc its worth it but do it for more weeks or up to 500 even

even at 15?

 

[Lonely]

Go to 500

 

[hopefulllarp]

good and post results please or give updates

i will

 

[dragomog]

even at 15?

im 15 on 500 for 16 weeks

 

[hopefulllarp]

im 15 on 500 for 16 weeks

what did you notice?

 

[James holder]

Im gonna do a 12week "cycle" of 300mg of test E and 6 ius of growth hormone at 15 and because of my young age I wanna do a decent Pct to not fuck up my body.
This is what im looking for:

-While the cycle 300mgs of hcg which is stopped after 14 days of the last test inj.
-50mg of clomid Week 1-2 after the 14 days going down to 25mg in week 3-4
-and 20mg of Nolvadex week 1-4

What would you change?
Im 181cm and 71kg

Id prolly add in some more stuff for a 12 week cycle, but seems good. Are you using any aromatase inhibitors during the cycle?

 

[dragomog]

what did you notice?

im 5 weeks in, bw up 6kg, physique changed somewhat, not much strenght up until now cuz i fucked up my first 4 weeks training very incorectly

 

[hopefulllarp]

Id prolly add in some more stuff for a 12 week cycle, but seems good. Are you using any aromatase inhibitors during the cycle?

If I have too big e2 levels then yeah

 

[hopefulllarp]

im 5 weeks in, bw up 6kg, physique changed somewhat, not much strenght up until now cuz i fucked up my first 4 weeks training very incorectly

Did you only use test or also gh ?

 

[6footislaw]

post pics here and update us

 

[dragomog]

Did you only use test or also gh ?

test only

 

[valugoatluvscience]

This community has changed from when I was in his spot, only thing stayed the same is the people that swear by a 500mg/week first cycle

 

[ethrnz1819]

6ius at 15? You produce more naturally

 

[hopefulllarp]

6ius at 15? You produce more naturally

How much should i take

 

[ethrnz1819]

How much should i take

11+ minimum

 

[ethrnz1819]

How much should i take

Do some proper fucking research before, and don’t rely on forums

 

[Iwtkms315]

What was your starting dose and how long did it take you to increase the dose

 

[Weazed0]

Im gonna do a 12week "cycle" of 300mg of test E and 6 ius of growth hormone at 15 and because of my young age I wanna do a decent Pct to not fuck up my body.
This is what im looking for:

-While the cycle 300mgs of hcg which is stopped after 14 days of the last test inj.
-50mg of clomid Week 1-2 after the 14 days going down to 25mg in week 3-4
-and 20mg of Nolvadex week 1-4

What would you change?
Im 181cm and 71kg

DO NOT DO 300mg a week PLZ. You will fuse ur growth plates faster. stay around 150-200 and even that is pushing it. also use an AI

 

[hopefulllarp]

DO NOT DO 300mg a week PLZ. You will fuse ur growth plates faster. stay around 150-200 and even that is pushing it. also use an AI

But I can just take more ai right?

 

[giller]

Im gonna do a 12week "cycle" of 300mg of test E and 6 ius of growth hormone at 15 and because of my young age I wanna do a decent Pct to not fuck up my body.
This is what im looking for:

-While the cycle 300mgs of hcg which is stopped after 14 days of the last test inj.
-50mg of clomid Week 1-2 after the 14 days going down to 25mg in week 3-4
-and 20mg of Nolvadex week 1-4

What would you change?
Im 181cm and 71kg

good post dont take so much test pw and instead make it longer 16 weeks min

 

[hopefulllarp]

good post dont take so much test pw and instead make it longer 16 weeks min

what do you think about 5mg halo for 10 days

 

[Arabica]

Im gonna do a 12week "cycle" of 300mg of test E and 6 ius of growth hormone at 15 and because of my young age I wanna do a decent Pct to not fuck up my body.
This is what im looking for:

-While the cycle 300mgs of hcg which is stopped after 14 days of the last test inj.
-50mg of clomid Week 1-2 after the 14 days going down to 25mg in week 3-4
-and 20mg of Nolvadex week 1-4

What would you change?
Im 181cm and 71kg

Be careful of gynecomastia tho

 

[hopefulllarp]

Be careful of gynecomastia tho

Main thing im scared of is plates but i hope my ai got me

 

[Arabica]

Main thing im scared of is plates but i hope my ai got me

bro dont take it now its way too risky or at least take lower doses

 

[Weazed0]

But I can just take more ai right?

U can but its still risky especially at 15. If i was 15 again i would run 175 test, 6.25mg of exemestane e3d, hgh and a high dose of non aromatizable androgens also low dose Accutane and minoxidil.

 

[hopefulllarp]

U can but its still risky especially at 15. If i was 15 again i would run 175 test, 6.25mg of exemestane e3d, hgh and a high dose of non aromatizable androgens also low dose Accutane and minoxidil.

What do you think about halo i wanna do 5mg for like 10-12 days

 

[hopefulllarp]

Bump

 

[Weazed0]

What do you think about halo i wanna do 5mg for like 10-12 days

didnt do much research after i found out how toxic it is. imo not worth to run

 

[thramer.]

If I have too big e2 levels then yeah

use an ai anyway it has pretty much zero side effects anyway

 

[stribor]

use an ai anyway it has pretty much zero side effects anyway

jfl no side effects shut the fuck up nigger you have zero knowledge on this topic why are you even commenting

 

[thramer.]

jfl no side effects shut the fuck up nigger you have zero knowledge on this topic why are you even commenting

whats the worst tht can happen, will it give you gyno, or stunt your growth, thats what might happen if you dont take an ai, if you use an ai that doesnt cross the blood-brain barrier the worse thing that can happen is weaker bones which could be mitigated with a high test or especialy deca dose anyway

 

[stribor]

whats the worst tht can happen, will it give you gyno, or stunt your growth, thats what might happen if you dont take an ai, if you use an ai that doesnt cross the blood-brain barrier the worse thing that can happen is weaker bones which could be mitigated with a high test or especialy deca dose anyway

sure, but its not safe at all, you have to regulate your e2 levels and if you crash them during your development years you are fucked, also not to talk about the psychological damage that may occur which has been observed in certain study groups when estrogen is low during puberty. Yes you should take an ai obviously if you are on cycle im not saying dont, but its not "safe" and you need to be educated on how to use it, to not cuck yourself of proper development. so saying it has 0 side effects is low iq and borderline retardation

 

[thramer.]

sure, but its not safe at all, you have to regulate your e2 levels and if you crash them during your development years you are fucked, also not to talk about the psychological damage that may occur which has been observed in certain study groups when estrogen is low during puberty. Yes you should take an ai obviously if you are on cycle im not saying dont, but its not "safe" and you need to be educated on how to use it, to not cuck yourself of proper development. so saying it has 0 side effects is low iq and borderline retardation

alright, i apologize for the vagueness of my statement i shouldve said if the corest AI is used peoperly and e2 is controlled in the optimal range than it will have practically 0 side effects (keep in mind anastrozole does NOT cross the blood brain barrier

 

[9ragl]

Im gonna do a 12week "cycle" of 300mg of test E and 6 ius of growth hormone at 15 and because of my young age I wanna do a decent Pct to not fuck up my body.
This is what im looking for:

-While the cycle 300mgs of hcg which is stopped after 14 days of the last test inj.
-50mg of clomid Week 1-2 after the 14 days going down to 25mg in week 3-4
-and 20mg of Nolvadex week 1-4

What would you change?
Im 181cm and 71kg

You should use an AI as well tbh, apart from that it looks good

 

[stribor]

alright, i apologize for the vagueness of my statement i shouldve said if the corest AI is used peoperly and e2 is controlled in the optimal range than it will have practically 0 side effects (keep in mind anastrozole does NOT cross the blood brain barrier

 

[favessarmy]

U can but its still risky especially at 15. If i was 15 again i would run 175 test, 6.25mg of exemestane e3d, hgh and a high dose of non aromatizable androgens also low dose Accutane and minoxidil.

check my thread

 

[darodiddler]

yo

im 15 on 500 for 16 weeks

could u help me with test? i have some questions do u have discord or some other shit

 

[dragomog]

yo

could u help me with test? i have some questions do u have discord or some other shit

pm me here

 

[Greenguy]

Im gonna do a 12week "cycle" of 300mg of test E and 6 ius of growth hormone at 15 and because of my young age I wanna do a decent Pct to not fuck up my body.
This is what im looking for:

-While the cycle 300mgs of hcg which is stopped after 14 days of the last test inj.
-50mg of clomid Week 1-2 after the 14 days going down to 25mg in week 3-4
-and 20mg of Nolvadex week 1-4

What would you change?
Im 181cm and 71kg

Add arimidex 0.5mg atleast ED or 25mg aromasin ED. Test dose can go up if u want. I would personally add winstrol 5-10mg.

 

[darodiddler]

6ius at 15? You produce more naturally

holy shit which nigger produces 6ius in a day??? nigger kys

 

[Dxniellll]

Look man, your plan is actually not bad for a first cycle. You've clearly done some research and that already puts you ahead of most guys who just wing it. Let me just be straight with you on a few things.

The HGH dose is too high. 6 IU is a lot. You're gonna hold water like a sponge, your insulin sensitivity is going to take a hit, and your hands and wrists are probably going to feel like shit from carpal tunnel. Drop it to 2-4 IU and you'll still get everything you're looking for without feeling like garbage.

You have no AI in your plan and that's a problem. At 300mg Test E your body is going to convert some of that to estrogen. You don't need to take an aromatase inhibitor every day prophylactically that's actually bad because crashing your estrogen wrecks your libido, joints and mood just as much as high estrogen does. But have Aromasin or Anastrozole on hand. If your nipples get sensitive, you're holding a ton of water, or you just feel off you'll want it.

Your HCG timing needs a small fix. Stop the HCG about 3-4 days BEFORE you start your SERMs, not on the same day. HCG and Clomid/Nolva are essentially working against each other if you run them simultaneously.

Bump the Nolvadex to 40mg for the first two weeks then drop to 20mg. That stronger initial hit helps kick your natural testosterone production back into gear faster.

Clomid is optional honestly. It works but a lot of guys feel emotionally weird on it moody, irritable, sometimes vision stuff. If you want to keep it simple, Nolvadex alone at 40/40/20/20 is solid and well supported. If you do run the Clomid, keep it at 25mg, don't need to go higher.

And please get bloodwork done. Before, around week 6, and then about 4 weeks after PCT. You need to actually see what your estrogen, testosterone, LH and FSH are doing. Otherwise you're just guessing.
One last thing you're 71kg at 181cm. That's on the lighter side. I'm not here to lecture you, it's your body and your choice, but there's genuinely still a lot of natural muscle left on the table at that size. Just something to sit with.
Stay safe and don't skip the bloodwork.

 

[hopefulllarp]

Look man, your plan is actually not bad for a first cycle. You've clearly done some research and that already puts you ahead of most guys who just wing it. Let me just be straight with you on a few things.

The HGH dose is too high. 6 IU is a lot. You're gonna hold water like a sponge, your insulin sensitivity is going to take a hit, and your hands and wrists are probably going to feel like shit from carpal tunnel. Drop it to 2-4 IU and you'll still get everything you're looking for without feeling like garbage.

You have no AI in your plan and that's a problem. At 300mg Test E your body is going to convert some of that to estrogen. You don't need to take an aromatase inhibitor every day prophylactically that's actually bad because crashing your estrogen wrecks your libido, joints and mood just as much as high estrogen does. But have Aromasin or Anastrozole on hand. If your nipples get sensitive, you're holding a ton of water, or you just feel off you'll want it.

Your HCG timing needs a small fix. Stop the HCG about 3-4 days BEFORE you start your SERMs, not on the same day. HCG and Clomid/Nolva are essentially working against each other if you run them simultaneously.

Bump the Nolvadex to 40mg for the first two weeks then drop to 20mg. That stronger initial hit helps kick your natural testosterone production back into gear faster.

Clomid is optional honestly. It works but a lot of guys feel emotionally weird on it moody, irritable, sometimes vision stuff. If you want to keep it simple, Nolvadex alone at 40/40/20/20 is solid and well supported. If you do run the Clomid, keep it at 25mg, don't need to go higher.

And please get bloodwork done. Before, around week 6, and then about 4 weeks after PCT. You need to actually see what your estrogen, testosterone, LH and FSH are doing. Otherwise you're just guessing.
One last thing you're 71kg at 181cm. That's on the lighter side. I'm not here to lecture you, it's your body and your choice, but there's genuinely still a lot of natural muscle left on the table at that size. Just something to sit with.
Stay safe and don't skip the bloodwork.

Why tf you using Ai for a response

 

[TajManzoor]

Im gonna do a 12week "cycle" of 300mg of test E and 6 ius of growth hormone at 15 and because of my young age I wanna do a decent Pct to not fuck up my body.
This is what im looking for:

-While the cycle 300mgs of hcg which is stopped after 14 days of the last test inj.
-50mg of clomid Week 1-2 after the 14 days going down to 25mg in week 3-4
-and 20mg of Nolvadex week 1-4

What would you change?
Im 181cm and 71kg

You can hop on 300 long term.

Also no AI???

 

[Dxniellll]

Why tf you using Ai for a response

Not even AI, man I only use AI for research, not for writing my responses. You don’t have to do it that way, but scientifically it makes more sense. Like I said, your basis is already really good.

 

[hopefulllarp]

Not even AI, man I only use AI for research, not for writing my responses. You don’t have to do it that way, but scientifically it makes more sense. Like I said, your basis is already really good.

Okay cause you sound like a bot