50% have thick skin

[Sal123]

I’d rope if I had your eyes ngl

Why u so mean

 

[6ft8InTheNetherlands]

i had cheekbone fillers and I have extreme thick skin. looked extremely ridiculous. i removed them after a few months. lost €800

 

[Sal123]

i had cheekbone fillers and I have extreme thick skin. looked extremely ridiculous. i removed them after a few months. lost €800

Do u have any pics of before and afters. I’m thinking either implant or filler. Much appreciated

 

[6ft8InTheNetherlands]

Do u have any pics of before and afters. I’m thinking either implant or filler. Much appreciated

sadly didn't take before pix. but cheekbone filler made my maxilla seem even more recessed than it is.

 

[Brandon10]

Eppley has been saying that jawline implants will only work=look good in patients with thinner faces so this may explain how underwhelming most implant results end up looking.

 

[SurgerySoon]

Hmm, @SurgerySoon , you know what, I’ve never seen zygo or zygo arch implants with flanged corners (not borders, the corners that make the “crest” that will be protruding the most) Maybe that’s exactly what you’d need if you wanted that definition you didn’t really get from your original ones.

Maybe so... then again, maybe overly flanged corners on the zygo implants would look unnatural on my face? Also, I'm not sure if I just don't have the type of facial structure that can really "show" that level of definition. I figure there has to be a reason why my surgeon designed the jaw implant to have very noticeable flanged corners but didn't design the zygo implants to have that feature.

The only hesitation I have with revising the midface implants is the risk of extra scar tissue build-up, which Taban said could make it much more difficult to do my eye area surgery.

 

[needsolution]

Eppley has been saying that jawline implants will only work=look good in patients with thinner faces so this may explain how underwhelming most implant results end up looking.

Its over, i have thick skin.

 

[Sal123]

Maybe so... then again, maybe overly flanged corners on the zygo implants would look unnatural on my face? Also, I'm not sure if I just don't have the type of facial structure that can really "show" that level of definition. I figure there has to be a reason why my surgeon designed the jaw implant to have very noticeable flanged corners but didn't design the zygo implants to have that feature.

The only hesitation I have with revising the midface implants is the risk of extra scar tissue build-up, which Taban said could make it much more difficult to do my eye area surgery.

Yes it can look very unnatural , have u ever seen a normal skull with that much natural flang. Not even chads have it

Its over, i have thick skin.

Are u 100% sure ? U can dm me of u want

 

[Brandon10]

Its over, i have thick skin.

Don't lose hope tbh, I'm not even 100% sure this is universally true

The before doesn't look like he has thin skin yet look how it turned out

 

[needsolution]

Don't lose hope tbh, I'm not even 100% sure this is universally true

The before doesn't look like he has thin skin yet look how it turned out

Tbh im at 8-9% bf and i hardly see any definition in my face.

 

[Sal123]

Tbh im at 8-9% bf and i hardly see any definition in my face.

U might just lack bones
@SurgerySoon have u had the jaw implant placed inside u or not

 

[SurgerySoon]

U might just lack bones
@SurgerySoon have u had the jaw implant placed inside u or not

Not yet, I'm going to have the surgery done in March.

My zygo implants do look more flanged from certain perspectives, like in this photo:



I still think I want more forward projection though

 

[Golden Glass]

Maybe so... then again, maybe overly flanged corners on the zygo implants would look unnatural on my face? Also, I'm not sure if I just don't have the type of facial structure that can really "show" that level of definition. I figure there has to be a reason why my surgeon designed the jaw implant to have very noticeable flanged corners but didn't design the zygo implants to have that feature.

The only hesitation I have with revising the midface implants is the risk of extra scar tissue build-up, which Taban said could make it much more difficult to do my eye area surgery.

Yeah possibly, I would think it would be something worth asking eppley directly.

And...

Yes it can look very unnatural , have u ever seen a normal skull with that much natural flang. Not even chads have it

Of course too much flanging can look unnatural. But it would need to be an INSANE amount for the flange itself to actually be noticeable under the skin, especially for thick skin.

Look at the flange on this implant:

Anybody who doesn’t know that implants look vastly different IRL would think “damn this guy’s jaw is going to look like a cartoon character’s”.

Yet, these were his final results:

Looks natural and ZERO flange is present when the implant is under the skin. You would need even more flange than the original picture for it to start to be present after the implant is under your soft tissue, especially if you have thick skin.

 

[Sal123]

Yeah possibly, I would think it would be something worth asking eppley directly.

And...

Of course too much flanging can look unnatural. But it would need to be an INSANE amount for the flange itself to actually be noticeable under the skin, especially for thick skin.

Look at the flange on this implant:
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Any body who doesn’t know that implants look vastly different IRL would think “damn this guy’s jaw is going to look like a cartoon character’s”.

Yet, these were his final results:
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Looks natural and ZERO flange is present when the implant is under the skin. You would need even more flange than the original picture for it to start to be present after the implant is under your soft tissue, especially if you have thick skin.

Now I wish mine was more flared

 

[Golden Glass]

Now I wish mine was more flared

At least you can now see that flange doesn’t always equal unnatural.

That’s something that thicker skinned people like @ArabIncel and @SurgerySoon would likely benefit from if they wanted “better” results.

 

[SurgerySoon]

At least you can now see that flange doesn’t always equal unnatural.

That’s something that thicker skinned people like @ArabIncel and @SurgerySoon would likely benefit from if they wanted “better” results.

Did you see the image of my wraparound jaw implant design that I posted? Do you think it's going to be a good move to get the rest of it put in (not sure if you're familiar with the whole situation, but I currently only have the chin portion of the implant in my face)?

Believe it or not, Dr. Y said that he would actually waive the surgical fee to do a revision of my midface implants, although I would have to pay $4500 to Implantech to design new implants (even if I'm just having a few mm added the existing design).

I'm very tempted to do it, but again, it just comes down to whether or not the additional post-surgical scar tissue would significantly compromise the result Taban is able to get when he performs my eye area overhaul surgery. Another option that someone else suggested is to consider letting Dr. Y do the eye area overhaul - he actually has some pretty impressive before/after result photos on his website -- since the procedures could be performed during my midface implant revision surgery.

Another option is to just get the rest of the wraparound jaw implant put in for now, see how that enhances my current midface implants, and then re-evaluate in a few months. I mention that as an option because the additional width and lowered height from jaw implants usually tends to create more hollowing and definition in the cheeks. See the result from Dr. Binder below (all he had done was wraparound jaw implant - no cheek implants):

https://doctorbinder.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/cil-img12.jpg

 

[Sal123]

@Golden Glass where were u when i was designing mine :/

 

[Golden Glass]

Did you see the image of my wraparound jaw implant design that I posted? Do you think it's going to be a good move to get the rest of it put in (not sure if you're familiar with the whole situation, but I currently only have the chin portion of the implant in my face)?

Believe it or not, Dr. Y said that he would actually waive the surgical fee to do a revision of my midface implants, although I would have to pay $4500 to Implantech to design new implants (even if I'm just having a few mm added the existing design).

I'm very tempted to do it, but again, it just comes down to whether or not the additional post-surgical scar tissue would significantly compromise the result Taban is able to get when he performs my eye area overhaul surgery. Another option that someone else suggested is to consider letting Dr. Y do the eye area overhaul - he actually has some pretty impressive before/after result photos on his website -- since the procedures could be performed during my midface implant revision surgery.

Another option is to just get the rest of the wraparound jaw implant put in for now, see how that enhances my current midface implants, and then re-evaluate in a few months. I mention that as an option because the additional width and lowered height from jaw implants usually tends to create more hollowing and definition in the cheeks. See the result from Dr. Binder below (all he had done was wraparound jaw implant - no cheek implants):

https://doctorbinder.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/cil-img12.jpg

Hmm, have you ever asked if a sideburns hairline incision was possible for your cheekbone and midface implants? Maybe a combo of sideburn and oral incision would be doable...

 

[SurgerySoon]

Hmm, have you ever asked if a sideburns hairline incision was possible for your cheekbone and midface implants? Maybe a combo of sideburn and oral incision would be doable...

I don't think I've ever heard of a hairline incision being used to insert cheek implants but I guess it wouldn't hurt to ask. So I'm guessing you think I'd benefit significantly from 2-3 more mm of cheek projection? The only thing to keep in mind is that it would result in one of my implants projecting by almost 9 mm, which everyone here says is too much projection for an implant to provide but IDK

 

[Eduardo DOV]

i'm afraid i have thick skin cause my nose is kind of roman/jew idk

if u're able to got shadow in ur cheecks, does it mean a thin skin ?
the only way to tell if the skin os thick is the dr touching you, dead srs.

 

[Golden Glass]

@Golden Glass where were u when i was designing mine :/

Yours is still good imo

I don't think I've ever heard of a hairline incision being used to insert cheek implants but I guess it wouldn't hurt to ask. So I'm guessing you think I'd benefit significantly from 2-3 more mm of cheek projection? The only thing to keep in mind is that it would result in one of my implants projecting by almost 9 mm, which everyone here says is too much projection for an implant to provide but IDK

I know that Eppley uses that kind of incision for cheekbone/zygomatic arch reduction. And yes that sounds like a ton of projection, and it would certainly look unnatural on tissue-paper thin skin, but because of how thick your skin is, I personally wouldn’t think so. If you wanted Max henhappel or Brian Shimansky tier cheekbones, with your skin type you’ll either need that much projection from implants, or from implants + filler.

i'm afraid i have thick skin cause my nose is kind of roman/jew idk

if u're able to got shadow in ur cheecks, does it mean a thin skin ?
the only way to tell if the skin os thick is the dr touching you, dead srs.

Just don’t listen to OP’s method of determining skin thickness, he was flat out wrong in @SurgerySoon ’s case. If you’re not totally sure, next time you go to a doctor for anything, ask for their opinion. In my opinion, yours seems medium thickness.

 

[Eduardo DOV]

Yours is still good imo


I know that Eppley uses that kind of incision for cheekbone/zygomatic arch reduction. And yes that sounds like a ton of projection, and it would certainly look unnatural on tissue-paper thin skin, but because of how thick your skin is, I personally wouldn’t think so. If you wanted Max henhappel or Brian Shimansky tier cheekbones, with your skin type you’ll either need that much projection from implants, or from implants + filler.


Just don’t listen to OP’s method of determining skin thickness, he was flat out wrong in @SurgerySoon ’s case. If you’re not totally sure, next time you go to a doctor for anything, ask for their opinion. In my opinion, yours seems medium thickness.

medium thickness is still good to implants and shit ?

 

[Golden Glass]

medium thickness is still good to implants and shit ?

Personally I think yes. You might just need more flaring /flanging at the angles, like I showed here:

@ArabIncel this is what I meant by flanged corners. Compare the jaw and chin corners.
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Eppley does this when you want sharper definition, so presumably it would help you if you have thicker skin.

Yeah possibly, I would think it would be something worth asking eppley directly.

And...

Of course too much flanging can look unnatural. But it would need to be an INSANE amount for the flange itself to actually be noticeable under the skin, especially for thick skin.

Look at the flange on this implant:
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Anybody who doesn’t know that implants look vastly different IRL would think “damn this guy’s jaw is going to look like a cartoon character’s”.

Yet, these were his final results:
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Looks natural and ZERO flange is present when the implant is under the skin. You would need even more flange than the original picture for it to start to be present after the implant is under your soft tissue, especially if you have thick skin.

Also, @SurgerySoon got great cheekbones (and he definitely has thick skin, he just didn’t get as much sharpness and frontal projection as he wanted).

Not yet, I'm going to have the surgery done in March.

My zygo implants do look more flanged from certain perspectives, like in this photo:



I still think I want more forward projection though

 

[zq336]

Yeah possibly, I would think it would be something worth asking eppley directly.

And...

Of course too much flanging can look unnatural. But it would need to be an INSANE amount for the flange itself to actually be noticeable under the skin, especially for thick skin.

Look at the flange on this implant:
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Anybody who doesn’t know that implants look vastly different IRL would think “damn this guy’s jaw is going to look like a cartoon character’s”.

Yet, these were his final results:
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Looks natural and ZERO flange is present when the implant is under the skin. You would need even more flange than the original picture for it to start to be present after the implant is under your soft tissue, especially if you have thick skin.

Remember on jaw implants, the masseter muscle covers the corner of the implant, so only the bottom edge of the implant is really visible on the face. On cheek implants, they're only covered by skin (and lower eyelid/upper cheek skin is usually thinner) so the shape you design is what you see on the face.

 

[Sal123]

Remember on jaw implants, the masseter muscle covers the corner of the implant, so only the bottom edge of the implant is really visible on the face. On cheek implants, they're only covered by skin (and lower eyelid/upper cheek skin is usually thinner) so the shape you design is what you see on the face.

Unless your masseter doesn’t stretch and then you’ll be left with round sides

 

[zq336]

Unless your masseter doesn’t stretch and then you’ll be left with round sides

Well if you get masseter dehiscence (a rare complication) then you'll actually see the sharp corner of the implant, with the retracted masseter forming a lump above it. This can usually be fixed though

 

[Sal123]

Well if you get masseter dehiscence (a rare complication) then you'll actually see the sharp corner of the implant, with the retracted masseter forming a lump above it. This can usually be fixed though

I know someone who got operated to fix it, it made the whole situation worse and now he want a revision

 

[Barbarossa_]

Holy shit thus reply of yours just revealed how bullshit your skin thickness rating system is

That’s @SurgerySoon , he’s been told by Yaremchuk himself that he has THICK skin.

OP’s a retard/thread

@ArabIncel don’t listen to a word this nonce tells you

JFL at this narcy fuck bro!
He is just trying to convince himself that no one would have great implant results like he did

Rather than thanking God because he lucked out and didn't get any infections and complications etc he is trying to discourage most men from getting implants

 

[PurplePaintBox]

muh thick skin AKA I'm too delusional to realise that my body fat percentage is too high to reveal my facial bones

 

[Sal123]

JFL at this narcy fuck bro!
He is just trying to convince himself that no one would have great implant results like he did

Rather than thanking God because he lucked out and didn't get any infections and complications etc he is trying to discourage most men from getting implants

@Barbarossa_ u r my buddy boyo , if u are interested in implants dm me I’ll answer all ur questions including how to avoid infection

 

[Barbarossa_]

@Barbarossa_ u r my buddy boyo , if u are interested in implants dm me I’ll answer all ur questions including how to avoid infection

I'm getting osteotmies but thx man
All I'm gonna say is thank God that everything gone well for you and you didn't end up like @Adrenochrome. Just dial down your narcissism and we are cool buddy boyo