5'6 chad frame vs 6'0 incel frame

[Deleted member 5786]

What would you choose ?

1) Short but very good frame for his height (5'6)



2) Tall but has terrible frame/proportions (This guy is 6 feet tall at least)

 

[Clark69]

6'0 is 6'0

 

[Deleted member 11748]

What would you choose ?

As my bf?

the estrogenic one

 

[Deleted member 2403]

I’d rather stay 5’6.25 with average frame

 

[Deleted member 11758]

 

[Deleted member 4887]

Like choosing between Brain aneurysm or abdominal aneurysm

 

[Deleted member 10185]

even if you have best frame at 5.6 its over.

 

[Deleted member 5786]

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I look quite similar to this at 5'7 Disgusting tbh

 

[Deleted member 5185]

tall incel can get shredded and do roids to get huge. The short guy can't do shit.

 

[Deleted member 5786]

The second guy wearing tight jeans, he is not even aware of his "weird looking body"

 

[Ocelot]

I didn't get a choice and ended up as 1) but at 5'7.5

 

[Merćer]

tall incel can get shredded and do roids to get huge. The short guy can't do shit.

Doubt, if the bones are shit tier, roids wont do anything.

 

[patricknotstar]

What would you choose ?

1) Short but very good frame for his height (5'6)

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2) Tall but has terrible frame/proportions (This guy is 6 feet tall at least)
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5’6 Chad frame

 

[Going2KillMyself]

I know 1 person who is manlet 5’6-ish height and gymcel and has success but at 6’0 with that shit frame there is 0 SMV

Like literally the only thing is top 20% height but u need to be at least average frame. That’s just estrogenic it’s really over

I’d bite the gullet and do 5’6

 

[Deleted member 7651]

id pick first tbh , chad can get away with the second bodytype tho

 

[mewcoper]

5'9" chad frame

 

[Mastermind]

6'0 but not with that waist to hip ratio

 

[Deleted member 3832]

5'6 chad frame, I'd become Baki.

 

[Deleted member 10913]

5'6 chad frame, I'd become Baki.

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it´s over.

 

[Deleted member 1862]

i would unironically take the 5ft6 with good frame & get LL

if you really think that any woman will find you attractive at 6ft with this build:

you need to give yourself a lobotomy

 

[Deleted member 1862]

tall incel can get shredded and do roids to get huge. The short guy can't do shit.

not with that frame

 

[Deleted member 4106]

6ft, with elevators in it would stay with 6ft1. I would just have to gymmaxing, and could cheat with clothes

 

[Bitch]

6’ height with shit frame + roids mogs

 

[oldcell]

5"6 is just too low, almost death height

 

[Deleted member 5786]

5"6 is just too low, almost death height

True, but this guy at 5'6 literally has wider frame than the guy at 6'0
Means that he could wear 4 inch heels and noone could ever suspect anything

 

[Deleted member 5185]

not with that frame

What do you mean? The frame is a result of low T. You inject shittons of T and trenbolone and get shredded as fukk you'll look insane, way more muscular and high T than any natural human being. Its completely trivial to bypass his frame deficit.

 

[Deleted member 1862]

What do you mean? The frame is a result of low T. You inject shittons of T and trenbolone and get shredded as fukk you'll look insane, way more muscular and high T than any natural human being. Its completely trivial to bypass his frame deficit.

dude, no jfl

you can't just inject T and have your BONE STRUCTURE change. Are you new to this site? You should look up frame threads tbh. Roids can save a slightly below average frame but there is literally no saving someone from kleinfelters.

 

[Deleted member 5185]

dude, no jfl

you can't just inject T and have your BONE STRUCTURE change. Are you new to this site? You should look up frame threads tbh. Roids can save a slightly below average frame but there is literally no saving someone from kleinfelters.

You can view the join date on the side you autistic retard.

Who is saying he needs to change bone structure? Where did I ever make that argument? Can you even read?

By lowering fat percentage and gaining a fuckton of muscles, he will have the appeareance of a good physique. To show you the extent of possibilities with steroid usage, let me show you a picture of a pro bodybuilder:

Now, as you can see, the amount of muscle mass clearly goes way beyond what is needed to offset the aesthetic detriments of bone structure. And our poorly framed guy in the OP will not need even close to the amount of muscle or leanness to offset his poor frame. Do you believe that having a poor frame inhibits you from building muscles? Do you believe that having narrow shoulders makes it impossible to build muscle? Do you believe that having a wide hip to shoulder ratio is completely unrelated to the amount of muscle mass and leanness a person has, especially after introducing steroids? In short: Are you fucking retarded?

 

[Deleted member 5786]

dude, no jfl

you can't just inject T and have your BONE STRUCTURE change. Are you new to this site? You should look up frame threads tbh. Roids can save a slightly below average frame but there is literally no saving someone from kleinfelters.

Would you consider Gandy Klinefelter looking?

 

[tyronelite]

Jesus Christ latissimus dorsi 404

 

[lutte]

5’6

 

[Uglybrazilian]

I dont know tbh

 

[Deleted member 1862]

You can view the join date on the side you autistic retard.

Who is saying he needs to change bone structure? Where did I ever make that argument? Can you even read?

By lowering fat percentage and gaining a fuckton of muscles, he will have the appeareance of a good physique. To show you the extent of possibilities with steroid usage, let me show you a picture of a pro bodybuilder:

Now, as you can see, the amount of muscle mass clearly goes way beyond what is needed to offset the aesthetic detriments of bone structure. And our poorly framed guy in the OP will not need even close to the amount of muscle or leanness to offset his poor frame. Do you believe that having a poor frame inhibits you from building muscles? Do you believe that having narrow shoulders makes it impossible to build muscle? Do you believe that having a wide hip to shoulder ratio is completely unrelated to the amount of muscle mass and leanness a person has, especially after introducing steroids? In short: Are you fucking retarded?

mirin this literal retardation & high E sissy fit when I'm just trying to point something out.

The dude in the OP will look like this:

While blasting roids, until he starts to look even worse due to expedited aging, hairloss etc.

Imaging thinking roiders walk around flaring their lats like this:

 

[Deleted member 1862]

Would you consider Gandy Klinefelter looking? View attachment 980038View attachment 980039View attachment 980040

his body genetics aren't the best but not as bad as the pic OP posted

 

[Deleted member 5969]

I look quite similar to this at 5'7 Disgusting tbh

Same

 

[Deleted member 5185]

mirin this literal retardation & high E sissy fit when I'm just trying to point something out.

The dude in the OP will look like this:

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While blasting roids, until he starts to look even worse due to expedited aging, hairloss etc.

Imaging thinking roiders walk around flaring their lats like this:

I mean, I'm actually tiring arguing with your sub 50 IQ arguments, but:

1. The picture you provided is someone holding a weighted barbell. Anyone will look like shit doing that, have you ever even been inside a gym? Compare yourself holding a deadlift like that vs holding a couple of dumbells to the side. Completely different look. The picture you provided is in no way, shape or form indicative of how the guy actually looks. To take it a step further, even if it was true that he looks like that, I would rather have that physique and be tall, than be short and have what, a slightly better hip to waste ratio? Like just lmfao

2. The fact that he is lat flaring is completely irrelevant. The point is the amount of muscle mass obviously off-setting any hip to waste frame deficiencies. But since you're too retarded to actually understand such a simple concept, I'll provide another picture.

Its funny you call it a hissy fit - I usually respond to posters with respect, but you're the one that started throwing insults and arguing like a spoiled 8 year old, so at this point its just funny to insult you. Because you're fucking retarded.

 

[Deleted member 1862]

I mean, I'm actually tiring arguing with your sub 50 IQ arguments, but:

1. The picture you provided is someone holding a weighted barbell. Anyone will look like shit doing that, have you ever even been inside a gym? Compare yourself holding a deadlift like that vs holding a couple of dumbells to the side. Completely different look. The picture you provided is in no way, shape or form indicative of how the guy actually looks. To take it a step further, even if it was true that he looks like that, I would rather have that physique and be tall, than be short and have what, a slightly better hip to waste ratio? Like just lmfao

2. The fact that he is lat flaring is completely irrelevant. The point is the amount of muscle mass obviously off-setting any hip to waste frame deficiencies. But since you're too retarded to actually understand such a simple concept, I'll provide another picture.

Its funny you call it a hissy fit - I usually respond to posters with respect, but you're the one that started throwing insults and arguing like a spoiled 8 year old, so at this point its just funny to insult you. Because you're fucking retarded.

wow someone reads reddit

we've all seen that post allegedly revealing that the dude in the pic I posted doesn't actually look like that, but it doesn't matter. You're essentially saying roids are an equaliser which they aren't whatsoever. You've also ignored the long term side effects of roids, & I guarantee you'll come back with some pseudy response ripped from reddit or quora about how roids won't age you in the long term etc etc.

Shoulder width has been shown to be one of the most dimorphic traits in a male so don't cope, and your bidelt is heavily determined by, surprise surprise, your BONES. Also, we're not talking about slightly wide hips that can be beaten through training. The dude in OP has this shit going on:

except worse bc at least the dude above has a bidelt wider than his hips. The fact that you're trying to defend your stance is comical. You really think women would find that attractive?

Having such garbage frame is honestly a death sentence. Having a bad frame whilst being a chad is obviously doable, ie. gandy but its not black & white.

Its funny you call it a hissy fit - I usually respond to posters with respect, but you're the one that started throwing insults and arguing like a spoiled 8 year old, so at this point its just funny to insult you. Because you're fucking retarded.

Yes bro, asking if you're new to the site bc I thought you misunderstood the difference between skeletal frame is 'arguing like a spoilt 8 year old'. Lets get a replay of what happened:

you can't just inject T and have your BONE STRUCTURE change. Are you new to this site? You should look up frame threads tbh. Roids can save a slightly below average frame but there is literally no saving someone from kleinfelters.

You can view the join date on the side you autistic retard.

Who is saying he needs to change bone structure? Where did I ever make that argument? Can you even read?

last I checked, name calling was more akin to the behaviour of a spoilt 8 year old, not asking a question in an entirely reasonable manner.

 

[Deleted member 5185]

[1]wow someone reads reddit

[2]we've all seen that post allegedly revealing that the dude in the pic I posted doesn't actually look like that, but it doesn't matter. [3]You're essentially saying roids are an equaliser which they aren't whatsoever. [5]You've also ignored the long term side effects of roids, & I guarantee you'll come back with some pseudy response ripped from reddit or quora about how roids won't age you in the long term etc etc.

[4]Shoulder width has been shown to be one of the most dimorphic traits in a male so don't cope, and your bidelt is heavily determined by, surprise surprise, your BONES. Also, we're not talking about slightly wide hips that can be beaten through training. The dude in OP has this shit going on:

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[6]except worse bc at least the dude above has a bidelt wider than his hips. The fact that you're trying to defend your stance is comical. You really think women would find that attractive?

Having such garbage frame is honestly a death sentence. Having a bad frame whilst being a chad is obviously doable, ie. gandy but its not black & white.



[7]Yes bro, asking if you're new to the site bc I thought you misunderstood the difference between skeletal frame is 'arguing like a spoilt 8 year old'. Lets get a replay of what happened:


last I checked, name calling was more akin to the behaviour of a spoilt 8 year old, not asking a question in an entirely reasonable manner.

[1] I literally have no idea what you're talking about. I've been on reddit as I would assume 99% of the forums userbase have been, but I've never seen the guy in the picture discussed. I saw him on the bodybuilding.com forums many years ago and immediately recognized that he looked that way because of him holding a barebell because, y'know, I've actually been to a gym and done deadlifts.

[2] Ok so you knew the picture was a bad example, decieving and didn't prove or support your stance at all. Interesting tactic.

[3] I mean, they simply are. Poor genetics with roids will beat good genetics without roids in terms of muscle size, which is what is needed to offset the poor frame when talking about aesthetics.

[4] There are negative aspects of steroids, sure. But that isn't the debate. I'll happily concede that steroids have adverse side effects - thats common knowledge. The question then becomes, be a midget and risk no side effects, or be tall and risk some side effects. When the goal is to simply look aesthetic, you don't need the extreme amount of steroids a lot of users that experience adverse side effects take.

[5] That is the exact reasons why AAS work - it takes out the genetic part because you simply get a shitton of muscle through the steroids. The deltoid is known for having the most explosive gains from steroids even.

[6] This, quite clearly, isn't someone doing a bunch of steroids. And again, I'd rather have a fridge-like muscular physique and be tall, than have a more aesthetic v-taper but be short. I think its pretty clear which one matters the most at this point between height and physique details.

[7] I love how you try to play it off as if it was some polite, inquisitive remark. You obviously said it as an insult.

edit: but you know what, I'll admit fault. I shouldn't have thrown the insults. That was me being a childish retard.

 

[zaynbrah]

What would you choose ?

1) Short but very good frame for his height (5'6)

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2) Tall but has terrible frame/proportions (This guy is 6 feet tall at least)
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6' obviously

 

[Deleted member 1862]

[1] I literally have no idea what you're talking about. I've been on reddit as I would assume 99% of the forums userbase have been, but I've never seen the guy in the picture discussed. I saw him on the bodybuilding.com forums many years ago and immediately recognized that he looked that way because of him holding a barebell because, y'know, I've actually been to a gym and done deadlifts.

[2] Ok so you knew the picture was a bad example, decieving and didn't prove or support your stance at all. Interesting tactic.

[3] I mean, they simply are. Poor genetics with roids will beat good genetics without roids in terms of muscle size, which is what is needed to offset the poor frame when talking about aesthetics.

[4] There are negative aspects of steroids, sure. But that isn't the debate. I'll happily concede that steroids have adverse side effects - thats common knowledge. The question then becomes, be a midget and risk no side effects, or be tall and risk some side effects. When the goal is to simply look aesthetic, you don't need the extreme amount of steroids a lot of users that experience adverse side effects take.

[5] That is the exact reasons why AAS work - it takes out the genetic part because you simply get a shitton of muscle through the steroids. The deltoid is known for having the most explosive gains from steroids even.

[6] This, quite clearly, isn't someone doing a bunch of steroids. And again, I'd rather have a fridge-like muscular physique and be tall, than have a more aesthetic v-taper but be short. I think its pretty clear which one matters the most at this point between height and physique details.

[7] I love how you try to play it off as if it was some polite, inquisitive remark. You obviously said it as an insult.

edit: but you know what, I'll admit fault. I shouldn't have thrown the insults. That was me being a childish retard.

tbh mature response

I'm still not convinced that even roids could save a physique THAT bad. I feel like women would be put off by the frame alone. Such a large pelvis on a guy combined with small bones (thin wrists etc) looks scary, genuinely.

There are people on bodybuilding forum that have out-trained wide hips, some even claim natty, but I just think there's a limit to what's possible even with roids. That being said, I only have a surface level understanding of them so I'm speculating.

Height is obviously far more important than frame for the majority of cases, this feels like a fairly unique edge case to me, hence my stance.

 

[Deleted member 5185]

tbh mature response

I'm still not convinced that even roids could save a physique THAT bad. I feel like women would be put off by the frame alone. Such a large pelvis on a guy combined with small bones (thin wrists etc) looks scary, genuinely.

There are people on bodybuilding forum that have out-trained wide hips, some even claim natty, but I just think there's a limit to what's possible even with roids. That being said, I only have a surface level understanding of them so I'm speculating.

Height is obviously far more important than frame for the majority of cases, this feels like a fairly unique edge case to me, hence my stance.

Its funny how more open I am to your point of view once I put down my autistic guard. Anyways, the dilemma was assuming you'd have to live with the frame, i.e not altering it through steroid usage or surgery. In essence, I cheated the dilemma, then got angry when you didn't immediately agree.

Idk fml I'm sorry bro

 

[Deleted member 5786]

tbh mature response

I'm still not convinced that even roids could save a physique THAT bad. I feel like women would be put off by the frame alone. Such a large pelvis on a guy combined with small bones (thin wrists etc) looks scary, genuinely.

There are people on bodybuilding forum that have out-trained wide hips, some even claim natty, but I just think there's a limit to what's possible even with roids. That being said, I only have a surface level understanding of them so I'm speculating.

Height is obviously far more important than frame for the majority of cases, this feels like a fairly unique edge case to me, hence my stance.

There are some wide-hips guys who look aesthetic.. or maybe im just coping and its always unattractive (1st guy is 5'8, second is 5'9)

 

[Deleted member 1862]

Its funny how more open I am to your point of view once I put down my autistic guard. Anyways, the dilemma was assuming you'd have to live with the frame, i.e not altering it through steroid usage or surgery. In essence, I cheated the dilemma, then got angry when you didn't immediately agree.

Idk fml I'm sorry bro

nah it's all good bro, easy to have a guard up on this site since avg user is poorly socialised.

I think the importance of frame in my eyes has increased since @Chintuck22 thread on scapulas. It's crazy that someone can be more or less untrained but look so good in clothes. Plus long bidelt + long arms is great for some sports, which matters to me tbh even tho its nothing to do with looks.

 

[Deleted member 1862]

There are some wide-hips guys who look aesthetic.. or maybe im just coping and its always unattractive (1st guy is 5'8, second is 5'9)View attachment 981499View attachment 981500

they look ok but will look worse (esp. in clothes) compared to narrower hip guys

 

[SeiGun]

you just cant imagine 2nd dude has a happy family,
imagine he is your father
how can you respect him when he has frame like that

 

[Deleted member 5786]

you just cant imagine 2nd dude has a happy family,
imagine he is your father
how can you respect him when he has frame like that

He needs to become super fat in order to hide pathetic bone structure

 

[Deleted member 206]

2nd guys pelvis is big but his waist isnt that bad. You can get a V taper from shoulder to waist if you work out and look aesthetic even with such a wide pelvic bone

 

[Deleted member 10915]

tall incel can get shredded and do roids to get huge. The short guy can't do shit.

truth