6’1” 150 Tren or DBol?

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I am a skinny 18 year old 6’1” and 150 pounds. I have a hard time gaining weight despite eating more than any of my family members.
I want to start a discussion on what is stronger and will contribute to more muscle gains - tren or dbol. Based on the fact that I live with my parents, dbol would be better since it is oral but let me know what are your thoughts on these compounds.
 
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Tren considering how popular it is I think DBol has some unwanted side effects
 
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dont touch roid if you dont know basisc, it will only looksmin you trust me.
 
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dont touch roid if you dont know basisc, it will only looksmin you trust me.

This lol you gotta have a bunch of ancillaries and cialis
 
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dont touch roid if you dont know basisc, it will only looksmin you trust me.
I know enough now, the only problem I see is that it will destroy my natural production.
 
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take dbol and report back
 
you sound kind of retard that will not have test base. and are you retarded? why do you inject tren at 150 lb? as i know it doesnt really put much muscle but only dries you out and gives hard look. just do couple of test cycles then decide next.
 
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you sound kind of retard that will not have test base. and are you retarded? why do you inject tren at 150 lb? as i know it doesnt really put much muscle but only dries you out and gives hard look. just do couple of test cycles then decide next.
I explained why above…
 
I take 25mg mk ed and 5mg cialis e2d, my gym gains are fucking insane

don't roid if you don't know shit
 
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i heard you but don’t understand if test is safer and more effective than tren
test is necessary in every cycle because steroids shut you down. you need testosterone because you need estrogen. testosterone converts to estrogen. tren doesnt have such features. i heard dianabol is also used as a test base but its harsh on livers. so test is the gold standard necessity in every cycle.

tren doesnt really put that much muscle too you will be disappointed.

i suggest you to watch an mpmd first cycle video or something from reddit because you clearly dont know anything about steroids.
 
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test is necessary in every cycle because steroids shut you down. you need testosterone because you need estrogen. testosterone converts to estrogen. tren doesnt have such features. i heard dianabol is also used as a test base but its harsh on livers. so test is the gold standard necessity in every cycle.

tren doesnt really put that much muscle too you will be disappointed.

i suggest you to watch an mpmd first cycle video or something from reddit because you clearly dont know anything about steroids.
Thank you, I will probably hop on anavar or test then.
 
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I am a skinny 18 year old 6’1” and 150 pounds. I have a hard time gaining weight despite eating more than any of my family members.
I want to start a discussion on what is stronger and will contribute to more muscle gains - tren or dbol. Based on the fact that I live with my parents, dbol would be better since it is oral but let me know what are your thoughts on these compounds.
tren is a conditioning drug for contest prep that completly nukes ur collagen beyond any other anabolic i've seen. Also many report lookikg smaller on tren due to its drying effect. Dbol is the the King of orals, it's what arnold, larry scott built there physique off of. It is for guys who wanna get BIGGER, and fill out a shirt. It makes you fuller, stronger , increases igf as well.
 
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Don't use tren, it's neurotoxic and destroys your skin like chinpilled said. Imo if you're not competing you don't need anything besides test and var or dbol
 
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I excluded tren now, I will probably go for dbol, maybe anavar. My heart rate is too low anyways so dbol raising it is fine.
 
Don't use tren, it's neurotoxic and destroys your skin like chinpilled said. Imo if you're not competing you don't need anything besides test and var or dbol
umm akchually destroyed collagen is good for thin skin which is good for vascularity. just use tret for your face you will be ok.
 
Ur a 6’1 150 18 year old if you lift consistently and diet well for a year you will look like a totally different person enough to be perceived differently only then consider maybe a test and mild oral as a cycle but it isn’t necessary for you yet
 
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you sound kind of retard that will not have test base. and are you retarded? why do you inject tren at 150 lb? as i know it doesnt really put much muscle but only dries you out and gives hard look. just do couple of test cycles then decide next.
At 150lbs 18 he can literally lift natty and gain good muscle lmao
 
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What do you mean gamer?
You should not at all be considering steroids.

You said it yourself. You’re skinny. If you haven’t truly proven to yourself that you know how to train and diet properly steroids aren’t gonna get you what you want. Steroids are also a financial drain. What if you respond terribly? What if you don’t think it’s real? What if you aren’t making any significant progress on steroids? Also thinking you can just choose between the two without even considering testosterone shows you don’t know about what you’re even considering.
 
at your weight you'll grow quickly whatever the fuck you do.

interesting concept , could you elab on why estrogen is needed ?
sperm health, bone strength, cholesterol metabolism, as well as cardiovascular and circulatory health.

your dick stops working, you'll feel like shit, your muscles won't recover well and your joint start clicking if you're low on estrogen as a man.
 
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just take test and var tbh
 
your dick stops working if you're low on estrogen as a man.
this is crazy counterintuitive
all this while I thought that the reason fin caused ED was due to increased estrogen
 
this is crazy counterintuitive
all this while I thought that the reason fin caused ED was due to increased estrogen
your dick tends to get flaccid while you have sex if you're too high in estrogen, but you won't even be able to get it up to begin with if it's low.
 
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this is a fucking horrible idea. if you're too stupid to figure out how to weight more than 150lbs at 6'1 then you're way too stupid for PEDs.
 
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interesting concept , could you elab on why estrogen is needed ?
Estrogen is important for sexual function. Low estrogen will also fuck you in your joints.
 
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dbol since its safer and you will at least recover after eat
you will gain significant weight on it as it increases appetite
tren wont let you pct, you have to use it only when blasting and cruising
 
test is necessary in every cycle because steroids shut you down. you need testosterone because you need estrogen. testosterone converts to estrogen. tren doesnt have such features. i heard dianabol is also used as a test base but its harsh on livers. so test is the gold standard necessity in every cycle.

tren doesnt really put that much muscle too you will be disappointed.

i suggest you to watch an mpmd first cycle video or something from reddit because you clearly dont know anything about steroids.
thats why he should use dbol
dbol replaces all the functions of testosterone including aromatization to estrogen
try 20-30 mgs of dbol for 8 weeks
 
thats why he should use dbol
dbol replaces all the functions of testosterone including aromatization to estrogen
try 20-30 mgs of dbol for 8 weeks
its hepatotoxic you cant run it for long time unlike testosterone
 
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interesting concept , could you elab on why estrogen is needed ?
i cant provide deep anecdotes but estrogen is needed for mood, bone density etc
 
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this is a fucking horrible idea. if you're too stupid to figure out how to weight more than 150lbs at 6'1 then you're way too stupid for PEDs.
It’s not about stupid, it’s about living with parents and not buying my own food.
 
I have a question - Would taking Dbol long term (for years) without stopping a crap idea?
 
Eat you dickhead
 

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