8,000 Years Ago, 17 Women Reproduced for Every One Man

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Once upon a time, 4,000 to 8,000 years after humanity invented agriculture, something very strange happened to human reproduction. Across the globe, for every 17 women who were reproducing, passing on genes that are still around today—only one man did the same.

"It wasn't like there was a mass death of males. They were there, so what were they doing?" asks Melissa Wilson Sayres, a computational biologist at Arizona State University, and a member of a group of scientists who uncovered this moment in prehistory by analyzing modern genes.

Another member of the research team, a biological anthropologist, hypothesizes that somehow, only a few men accumulated lots of wealth and power, leaving nothing for others. These men could then pass their wealth on to their sons, perpetuating this pattern of elitist reproductive success. Then, as more thousands of years passed, the numbers of men reproducing, compared to women, rose again. "Maybe more and more people started being successful," Wilson Sayres says. In more recent history, as a global average, about four or five women reproduced for every one man.


These two graphs show the number of men (left) and women (right) who reproduced throughout human history. (Chart: Monika Karmin et al./Genome Research)


These two graphs show the number of men (left) and women (right) who reproduced throughout human history. (Chart: Monika Karmin et al./Genome Research)
Physically driven natural selection shaped many human traits. Ethnic Africans and Europeans had to evolve to digest milk, for example, while most ethnic Tibetans have adaptations to deal with the lower oxygen levels at high altitudes. But if Wilson Sayres' team's hypothesis is correct, it would be one of the first instances that scientists have found of culture affecting human evolution.

The team uncovered this dip-and-rise in the male-to-female reproductive ratio by looking at DNA from more than 450 volunteers from seven world regions. Geneticists analyzed two parts of the DNA, Y-chromosome DNA and mitochondrial DNA. These don't make up a large portion of a person's genetics, but they're special because people inherit Y-chromosome DNA exclusively from their male ancestors and mitochondrial DNA exclusively from their female ancestors. By analyzing diversity in these parts, scientists are able to deduce the numbers of female and male ancestors a population has. It's always more female.

"It wasn't like there was a mass death of males. They were there, so what were they doing?"​

So much for what our DNA can tell us. This study, published last week in the journal Genome Research, can't directly account for why the dip occurred. Instead, the team members tried to think through other explanations. "Like was there some sort of weird virus that only affected males across the whole globe, 8,000 years ago?" Wilson Sayres asks—a hypothesis the team found unlikely.


To further test the wealth-and-power idea, the researchers plan to look for other genetic markers that would indicate that something cultural, not physical, kept those early male farmers from reproducing. Team members could also collaborate with anthropologists and archaeologists, to see if they have any clues.

Nature is a harsh taskmaster, but so, it seems, is human culture. Although the popular notion is that farming and settlement cushioned people against "survival of the fittest," this study shows that's not true. Something cultural happened 8,000 years ago that's marked us even today.

Quick Studies is an award-winning series that sheds light on new research and discoveries that change the way we look at the world.
 
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Read this long ago. Soon that day will come again. Its over for sub chads, just LDAR :feelswhy::feelswhy:
 
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Gynocentric propaganda:lul:
 
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Some scientists think they evolved to be gay
 
youre making a lot of high iq posts . mirin ops efforts
 
I think it was the opposite
 

Once upon a time, 4,000 to 8,000 years after humanity invented agriculture, something very strange happened to human reproduction. Across the globe, for every 17 women who were reproducing, passing on genes that are still around today—only one man did the same.

"It wasn't like there was a mass death of males. They were there, so what were they doing?" asks Melissa Wilson Sayres, a computational biologist at Arizona State University, and a member of a group of scientists who uncovered this moment in prehistory by analyzing modern genes.

Another member of the research team, a biological anthropologist, hypothesizes that somehow, only a few men accumulated lots of wealth and power, leaving nothing for others. These men could then pass their wealth on to their sons, perpetuating this pattern of elitist reproductive success. Then, as more thousands of years passed, the numbers of men reproducing, compared to women, rose again. "Maybe more and more people started being successful," Wilson Sayres says. In more recent history, as a global average, about four or five women reproduced for every one man.


These two graphs show the number of men (left) and women (right) who reproduced throughout human history. (Chart: Monika Karmin et al./Genome Research)


These two graphs show the number of men (left) and women (right) who reproduced throughout human history. (Chart: Monika Karmin et al./Genome Research)
Physically driven natural selection shaped many human traits. Ethnic Africans and Europeans had to evolve to digest milk, for example, while most ethnic Tibetans have adaptations to deal with the lower oxygen levels at high altitudes. But if Wilson Sayres' team's hypothesis is correct, it would be one of the first instances that scientists have found of culture affecting human evolution.

The team uncovered this dip-and-rise in the male-to-female reproductive ratio by looking at DNA from more than 450 volunteers from seven world regions. Geneticists analyzed two parts of the DNA, Y-chromosome DNA and mitochondrial DNA. These don't make up a large portion of a person's genetics, but they're special because people inherit Y-chromosome DNA exclusively from their male ancestors and mitochondrial DNA exclusively from their female ancestors. By analyzing diversity in these parts, scientists are able to deduce the numbers of female and male ancestors a population has. It's always more female.

"It wasn't like there was a mass death of males. They were there, so what were they doing?"​

So much for what our DNA can tell us. This study, published last week in the journal Genome Research, can't directly account for why the dip occurred. Instead, the team members tried to think through other explanations. "Like was there some sort of weird virus that only affected males across the whole globe, 8,000 years ago?" Wilson Sayres asks—a hypothesis the team found unlikely.


To further test the wealth-and-power idea, the researchers plan to look for other genetic markers that would indicate that something cultural, not physical, kept those early male farmers from reproducing. Team members could also collaborate with anthropologists and archaeologists, to see if they have any clues.

Nature is a harsh taskmaster, but so, it seems, is human culture. Although the popular notion is that farming and settlement cushioned people against "survival of the fittest," this study shows that's not true. Something cultural happened 8,000 years ago that's marked us even today.

Quick Studies is an award-winning series that sheds light on new research and discoveries that change the way we look at the world.
It’s not due to womens choices but due to wars and enslavement. Most men died in battle or to famine etc, very few men were incels if that even existed as every guy could get a gf


What we have today is unique and never before seen in humanity, women choose their partners now and thus inceldom exists now, men are not failing to reproduce due to wars but due to women end picky ness
 
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Over for foids in 5980 BC :feelsrope:
 
Here is the most gruesome BLACKPILL I can provide you guys, and this is my own hypothesis:
What happened right after agriculture started was that physical strength became lesser in importance. Even a woman can do farming to a good extent because it does not require as much physical strength as in the pre-agriculture societies where hunting was the norm. To hunt you really have to be a man of a man.

Hence as a consequence, women independence increased, and the farmer types men started outscoring the hunters because farming provided more resources. And increased female independence meant that women had inflated choices, and one farmer could provide for multiple women even on his own (farming does not require a tribe). Hence 16 out of 17 men couldn't mog foids and lost out in the genetic race.

THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT'S HAPPENING RIGHT NOW AS WELL.
Because of feminism and eradication of physical labour, male SMV has nuked and female SMV has exploded. Females do not need a provider anymore. Hence only chads are breeding and sub-chads are being eliminated from the gene pool.

Sounds apocalyptic, but if you can't see this around you, you literally are blind.
SUB-CHADS ARE BEING BREEDED OUT because of inflated female SMV and non-requirement of a provider male.
 
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We are simply reverting back to our old ways. When a women fucked a guy back then she would only fuck him as part of a harem. The only reason more guys reproduce now is because it’s socially accepted for the women to fuck chads early on (prime years) then have a kid with a non chad man explaining the cope of “muh normie man happy married and have kid!”. Bro that guys wife sucked 8 dicks before him. Thank allah for Islamic interference in some areas
 
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We are simply reverting back to our old ways. When a women fucked a guy back then she would only fuck him as part of a harem. The only reason more guys reproduce now is because it’s socially accepted for the women to fuck chads early on (prime years) then have a kid with a non chad man explaining the cope of “muh normie man happy married and have kid!”. Bro that guys wife sucked 8 dicks before him. Thank allah for Islamic interference in some areas
Islam is not gonna save us. While in certain areas it is definitely conservative and traditional with respect to female nature. But it fails to solve the problem since it itself has got pitfalls in the form of a chad owning multiple wives and concubines.

Maybe the spread of Islam is a good thing (which is why people are adopting/breeding it more and more), but they still haven't solved their monogamy problem.

Which means whatever solution needs to be implemented in society will be cultural and not religious.
 
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Hence as a consequence, women independence increased, and the farmer types men started outscoring the hunters because farming provided more resources. And increased female independence meant that women had inflated choices, and one farmer could provide for multiple women even on his own (farming does not require a tribe). Hence 16 out of 17 men couldn't mog foids and lost out in the genetic race.
I cba to post source but in ancient britain at least it was typically male hunter gatherer and female farmers that would interbreed

iirc farming at the beginning was not paticularly better than hunter gatherer tribes lifestyle so maybe this is not true but idk
you're right about this happening at the start of agriculture tho I remember that
 
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I read that study. The reason for the 1:17 ratio is because of famine and only a select few men could farm efficiently enough to support women and their children. Historically speaking, the 80/20 rule of female hypergamy has been pretty consistent throughout time
 
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Here is the most gruesome BLACKPILL I can provide you guys, and this is my own hypothesis:
What happened right after agriculture started was that physical strength became lesser in importance. Even a woman can do farming to a good extent because it does not require as much physical strength as in the pre-agriculture societies where hunting was the norm. To hunt you really have to be a man of a man.

Hence as a consequence, women independence increased, and the farmer types men started outscoring the hunters because farming provided more resources. And increased female independence meant that women had inflated choices, and one farmer could provide for multiple women even on his own (farming does not require a tribe). Hence 16 out of 17 men couldn't mog foids and lost out in the genetic race.

THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT'S HAPPENING RIGHT NOW AS WELL.
Because of feminism and eradication of physical labour, male SMV has nuked and female SMV has exploded. Females do not need a provider anymore. Hence only chads are breeding and sub-chads are being eliminated from the gene pool.

Sounds apocalyptic, but if you can't see this around you, you literally are blind.
SUB-CHADS ARE BEING BREEDED OUT because of inflated female SMV and non-requirement of a provider male.
That was slave society. Now we're under capitalism. One multi millionaire Chad can impregnate AND provide for AT LEAST a few dozen women.

Sub 8 men aren't needed, sexually speaking.
 
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We are simply reverting back to our old ways. When a women fucked a guy back then she would only fuck him as part of a harem. The only reason more guys reproduce now is because it’s socially accepted for the women to fuck chads early on (prime years) then have a kid with a non chad man explaining the cope of “muh normie man happy married and have kid!”. Bro that guys wife sucked 8 dicks before him. Thank allah for Islamic interference in some areas
its fuckn halrious, the women in their prime years will invite their best friend to give a double blow job and fuck chad/tyrone. Then years later demand their future husbands or boyfriends to take them out on dates and treat them like a lady. If a women wants you to take her out more then 2x and doesnt fuck you she doesnt respect you and sees you as a beta-provider sucka. The reason alot of time these husbands leave their girlfriends or wives once they learn of their sexual past via sex-tape or video, is because the women never gave said boyfriend or husband the same sexual lust and vigor, she will say she doesn't like blow jobs, and here is a video of her and her college room-mate giving a clad/tyrone a double blow-job.
 
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