90% of North Africans are sub-5s

[miserycel]

Genuinely chopped as hell. I’m quarter NA myself and majority of my lineage are fucking subs

Whenever I see a HLTN+ North African I’m genuinely impressed it’s a miracle in of itself

 

[chombo]

Bug eyes of doom

 

[miserycel]

Bug eyes of doom

Bug eyes, boneless, fucked up noses

Literally a death sentence

 

[SecularIslamist]

After visiting Morocco last year and Tunisia a couple months ago I concur.

But still you would see some random HTN+ pop out of nowhere looking like Gattouz.

 

[miserycel]

After visiting Morocco last year and Tunisia a couple months ago I concur.

But still you would see some random HTN+ pop out of nowhere looking like Gattouz.

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Yeah exactly

There’s a very few who actually look decent, that’s why to some extent it’s good to be ethnic because your competition is just so so low, especially if you’re NA

 

[SecularIslamist]

Yeah exactly

There’s a very few who actually look decent, that’s why to some extent it’s good to be ethnic because your competition is just so so low, especially if you’re NA

If you think NA is bad it's worse in curryland / mid east Arabs.

But the market is becoming globalised. Most women doomscrolling insta looking at guys who look like another species compared to guys IRL will fuck up their psychology.

Same with men. I'm shocked how Indian men fucked their women producing a billion people but it happened - and I guess their entire universe of what attraction is was limited to some poojeeta before social media became globalised.

 

[miserycel]

If you think NA is bad it's worse in curryland / mid east Arabs.

But the market is becoming globalised. Most women doomscrolling insta looking at guys who look like another species compared to guys IRL will fuck up their psychology.

Same with men. I'm shocked how Indian men fucked their women producing a billion people but it happened - and I guess their entire universe of what attraction is was limited to some poojeeta before social media became globalised.

Generally what I’ve noticed across the Islamic world is that the Levant has the best looking men, then it’s the gulf + Iran and the rest are full of subs

It’s a really liberating feeling to be from this area and have the knowledge and tools to ascend, especially since most think looking good = gay.

As long as you have a relatively decent base it’s ridiculously easy to become a high SMV man. The only issue is you can’t really slay like you could in the west in Muslim countries JFL

 

[BadLuck7892]

If you think NA is bad it's worse in curryland / mid east Arabs.

But the market is becoming globalised. Most women doomscrolling insta looking at guys who look like another species compared to guys IRL will fuck up their psychology.

Same with men. I'm shocked how Indian men fucked their women producing a billion people but it happened - and I guess their entire universe of what attraction is was limited to some poojeeta before social media became globalised.

A Sikh from India used me as a wingman to try to get some White American foid

His strategy backfired. She ended up going on a date with me

 

[BadLuck7892]

North African men look leaps and bounds better than sub-Saharan apes

 

[miserycel]

North African men look leaps and bounds better than sub-Saharan apes

True

Generally tho across the Arab world they’re at the bottom of the barrel

 

[SecularIslamist]

Generally what I’ve noticed across the Islamic world is that the Levant has the best looking men, then it’s the gulf + Iran and the rest are full of subs

Id add Turkey ahead of Levant tbh. Maybe they are tied with Lebanon though.

It’s a really liberating feeling to be from this area and have the knowledge and tools to ascend, especially since most think looking good = gay.

Yeah I was thinking that too. Taking care of ones

As long as you have a relatively decent base it’s ridiculously easy to become a high SMV man. The only issue is you can’t really slay like you could in the west in Muslim countries JFL

That's a good thing.

True

Generally tho across the Arab world they’re at the bottom of the barrel

You guys are ahead of gulf countries / curries / blacks. And the northern parts of north Africa mog to an extent compared to southern areas. There are some med looking people. At least your women can fog...

In the overall global hierarchy you are middle SMV. And if you think you're not then go to asia and south America - some SA countries mog ofc but not all of them. You are just comparing them to Western standards.

 

[miserycel]

Id add Turkey ahead of Levant tbh. Maybe they are tied with Lebanon though.

Hmm maybe this is true but tbh the average Turk has shit pheno and shit colouring so it’s kinda tough for them. They kinda look like pale Arabs it’s a little weird

I’ve noticed that a lot of Lebanese and Syrians I interact with on average mog their other Arab counterparts. A lot of them have nice things going for them (ie. Green/blue eyes) which most other Arabs don’t

That's a good thing.

It’s a net positive yeah. Much easier to find a loyal and trustworthy wife in the Middle East than in the west but if you just wanna slay MTBs you risk getting your dick chopped off

You guys are ahead of gulf countries / curries / blacks. And the northern parts of north Africa mog to an extent compared to southern areas. There are some med looking people. At least your women can fog...

In the overall global hierarchy you are middle SMV. And if you think you're not then go to asia and south America - some SA countries mog ofc but not all of them. You are just comparing them to Western standards.

I’m only 25% NA, thank god for that, I’m predominantly from the Middle East and I’ve noticed that a lot of my failos actually come from my North African side of the family.

I think North Africans have a higher SMV due to perceived social stereotypes especially in the West Arabs don’t particularly have a good reputation but based off purely genetics alone I think the average middle easterner (Levant + Gulf) > average North African. A lot of Arabs get their shitty eye areas saved by misc and the few that are in good shape seem to have decent bone structure, I’ve seen so many Moroccans with Martian skulls it’s genuinely insane

 

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[miserycel]

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Genuinely brutal

 

[SecularIslamist]

Hmm maybe this is true but tbh the average Turk has shit pheno and shit colouring so it’s kinda tough for them. They kinda look like pale Arabs it’s a little weird

How do they have shit pheno? It's hugely varied (excluding the 20% of population who are kurd) They are the whitest ethnics and tbh places in the West look as high as 20% white although whole country is probably closer to 10%>

A lot of them have shit eye area imo. The women in the black sea area. mog.

I’ve noticed that a lot of Lebanese and Syrians I interact with on average mog their other Arab counterparts. A lot of them have nice things going for them (ie. Green/blue eyes) which most other Arabs don’t

I've seen quite a few as well with green /.blue eyes. Especially Lebenese imo they tend to have much more chaddier features. I feel like the curly / wavy hair could failo them a bit and make them look a bit mutt.

Also it's a bit off topic and I have a raging boner rn. But it's a shame the two biggest pornstars from both countries (Mia Khalifa and Roxie Sinner) both look Indian!

It’s a net positive yeah. Much easier to find a loyal and trustworthy wife in the Middle East than in the west but if you just wanna slay MTBs you risk getting your dick chopped off

That's some of the retards here think Arab girls are fucking just like the West.

Ofc they are liberalising but far away from anything resembling western degeneracy.

I’m only 25% NA, thank god for that, I’m predominantly from the Middle East and I’ve noticed that a lot of my failos actually come from my North African side of the family.

Which country?

Even nafris are mixed - most of the native genetics are berber mixed with med, Arab, subsaharn and even Anatolian genetics.

I think North Africans have a higher SMV due to perceived social stereotypes especially in the West Arabs don’t particularly have a good reputation but based off purely genetics alone I think the average middle easterner (Levant + Gulf) > average North African. A lot of Arabs get their shitty eye areas saved by misc and the few that are in good shape seem to have decent bone structure, I’ve seen so many Moroccans with Martian skulls it’s genuinely insane

Levant = gulf help nagggg

I disagree with this. Id put levants above nafris ofc, and then gulf. Places like Yemen /.Oman could give India a run for it's money.

Highest SMV = Lebanon, Syria, Iraq

Middle SMV = Tunisia, Algeria, Morocco

Lowest SMV = Egypt, Saudi, Yemen

Countries like Libya in between low and middle and Palestine / Jordan also between middle and Highest.

Anyway this is what I think. But I would have thought objectively that's the case too.

 

[miserycel]

How do they have shit pheno? It's hugely varied (excluding the 20% of population who are kurd) They are the whitest ethnics and tbh places in the West look as high as 20% white although whole country is probably closer to 10%>

A lot of them have shit eye area imo. The women in the black sea area. mog.

Sometimes whiter ≠ better, especially in their case

A lot of them have very ethnic features (ie. Hooked noses) but then have that very subtle pale yet ethnic skin tone it kinda throws them off. I think a lot of them would benefit from a more med skin tone but sadly across majority of these countries whiter = better looking even though it just doesn’t suit their features.

I do agree, Turkish women are pretty hot, definitely look better than the males

I've seen quite a few as well with green /.blue eyes. Especially Lebenese imo they tend to have much more chaddier features. I feel like the curly / wavy hair could failo them a bit and make them look a bit mutt.

Also it's a bit off topic and I have a raging boner rn. But it's a shame the two biggest pornstars from both countries (Mia Khalifa and Roxie Sinner) both look Indian!

Yeah the coloured eyes just contrast so well with med skin tone, and it helps their SMV so so much if they’re shooting for their own women because 95% of Arabs have T50s of doom lol. I agree with your second point and I’ve talked about it a lot, curls are fucking brutal and do not have the muh Greek philosopher bro! aura people think it does. Straight hair terramogs everything else

They set us back so much, no wonder gulfers are always getting ragebaited being called Indians

That's some of the retards here think Arab girls are fucking just like the West.

Ofc they are liberalising but far away from anything resembling western degeneracy.

Yeah I agree

I’ve noticed even the liberal Arab diaspora in the west who are not religious still maintain pieces of the conservative values they were brought up on, definitely not as far gone as the average white woman

Which country?

Even nafris are mixed - most of the native genetics are berber mixed with med, Arab, subsaharn and even Anatolian genetics.

Hmm don’t really feel like exposing too much of myself on here publicly but I wouldn’t mind PMing you more if you want

But I’m mixed with a few countries with a shitty genetic reputation and consequently I got some shitty genes but I can’t say I look like the stereotypical person from that country. I definitely look Arab but not sure where exactly I look most from. I’ve gotten Iraqi before mostly because I have a slighter lighter skin tone than the average Arab

Levant = gulf help nagggg

I disagree with this. Id put levants above nafris ofc, and then gulf. Places like Yemen /.Oman could give India a run for it's money.

Highest SMV = Lebanon, Syria, Iraq

Middle SMV = Tunisia, Algeria, Morocco

Lowest SMV = Egypt, Saudi, Yemen

Countries like Libya in between low and middle and Palestine / Jordan also between middle and Highest.

Anyway this is what I think. But I would have thought objectively that's the case too.

I agree with this overall.

I think the good looking Levantines > Good looking gulfers but the average person from both areas looks like shit but I guess the Levant have better pheno + better luck for striking features

I agree with your SMV chart. Egyptians Saudis and Yemenis are notoriously ugly