A big part of this forum (and generation) is gay (or abused dogs)

[irrumator praetor]

It's not learned, it's innate in humans. There is a study about how babies react to unnattractive and attractive faces (https://www.researchgate.net/publication/232515567_Infants'_Differential_Social_Responses_to_Attractive_and_Unattractive_Faces) proving that even newborns can make a difference between both. Furthermore, saying it's learned could mean somebody made the rules and criterias, which makes beauty entirely unobjective.
But I could agree with you on the fact that it's gay to think some model is "adamlite" or 8 PSL or whatever because at this point it becomes just model worshipping.

Alright so lets break down the difference between it being innate and then conscious/aware:
So this is the subconscious/unconscious part of the software running:

As it pertains to other men, how attractive you are to women only matters little as a standalone value, only merit being that if you attract more women, it might potentially be a sign you're at least somewhat competent (in the male perspective)

Surface level lookism (the impression you give off of) would be separate from understanding female attraction, and its just obvious stuff. Like, looking the part, dressing the part, looking well put together (bluepill lookism). This would have more importance when interacting with either men or women. Looking "normal" is more societally important

Thats as far as lookism should go for the average user of this forum that isn't a FAGGOT.
Saying you mog another man is equally as gay as saying some other man mogs you.

As it pertains to the dynamics between other men, lookism shouldn't play a role bigger than the bluepill level (as I shittly defined it). If it does, YOU'RE GAY.

Male values should be predominant in male interactions. That means, FORGET all the looksmaxing shit, blackpill shit, tiktok shit, rating shit. If you don't you're gay

As opposed to the conscious/blackpill/scale rating and being aware or self fulfilling the principles of the blackpill (effects of looks theory we derive from data probably asymmetrically skewed by the presence of women).

Male reactions to a male face thats attractive to women sexually is different when bluepilled versus blackpilled, I stated a bunch of examples already.

 

[irrumator praetor]

Is an interesting idea, you do acquire the female gaze in some way and it tends toward Chad worship, which is a characteristically female trait. While I doubt you could 'learn' to be gay, you definitely get gayer behaviorally.

Also in regards to the arg with @sadcel it's obviously unlearned to tell if someone is attractive but the method / scale is learned, and you're putting special emphasis on it.

Correct, in this case, the altered social emphasis post-blackpill is almost like a dogma thats imposed culturally now (tiktok nowadays = culture). That will make more behaviorally female/gay men. ITS OVER

 

[irrumator praetor]

dnrd when you started with the gay stuff
“avoid being gay” jfl

That just isn’t how sexuality works and you’re no better than those redpill retards when you start ascribing unrelated traits to sexual persuasion and describing bullshit” slippery slopes” & pining on about what a man should be

In this text I guess I outline how "you become gay in all ways except sexually" but that isn't enough

On the other hand if you start arguing that there isn't any set of attributes that a man should universally be then idk what to tell you bro lol thats a feminist argument, gay or tranny argument, low T argument. Clearly male roles and traits defined sets of attributes, and evolution too, as to what a man should be

 

[atleastimskinny471]

And then I see this video:


Surely another big part of society is this abused dog class as well.

So we have the abused dogs, and among new gens we have outright homos. How can you seriously be rating male models etc?

I think, male-to-male, you shouldn't rate anyone on a scale in order to avoid being gay. If you seriously start rating people IRL instinctively YOU BECOME A WOMAN. in a split second you'll say "damn that nigga mogs" which translates to "damn that nigga is attractive (to women)" and as soon as the thought comes in, NIGGA YOU'RE GAY. THE SECOND YOU SAY A MAN IS ATTRACTIVE (TO WOMEN) YOU'RE GAY. YOU HAVEE, HAAAAAVEEE THE FEMALE GAZE NOW! STOP FUCKING RATING PEOPLE YOU FAGGOTS.

If you wanna be rated, compare yourself to a CHART (made by either women or faggots) that's IT. MALE TO MALE RATINGS ARE GAY. Nothing wrong with being rated by faggots, but lets call it what it is. The person that rates, for a moment, assumes the position of a female or a faggot, in their brain.

Let me establish some ground rules here:
1) If you treat another MAN differently because of his looks only after the blackpill, because hes "attractive" YOU'RE GAY

if you even behave in any way while having the thought of him being attractive in the back of your mind, lingering because of the BP, YOU'RE GAY

Saying a dude is attractive to his face or otherwise is GAY

2) Male to male comparison, competition should be in strength, capability, intelligence, success, money, masculinity. Can we go back to the redpiller days when niggas were just flexing lambos and roided physiques and shit? Everything is super gay now

3) You gotta admit, and I talked about this in my previous threads, since looksmaxing is basically about men becoming like women, some methods of becoming more attractive to women are kinda feminine (makeup, skincare, longer hair...).

So if we combine all these factors together we get a very faggot situation: men with makeup, glowy skin, long hair calling other men attractive left and right, viewing other men through the female gaze/lens, treating other men how females would treat them (because of the BP telling them so in their subconscious/back of the head), not how actual males would interact/treat each other. You're a female, or a faggot, in everything EXCEPT attraction to men. What says you won't become one?

Going back to the abused dogs. Now that so much of the newer generations are either abused dogs or newgen looksmax tiktok crypto homos, idk. I guess I just wanna say we're cooked

This is a vent post anyway lol but I can't formulate these thoughts anyhow.

https://looksmax.org/threads/lookism-is-a-female-status-game.1901205/

I lot of people realize they are gay through Ascension

 

[irrumator praetor]

Gay or not is very black and white, you are either SEXUALLY ATTRACTED to men or or you ARE NOT

I already said, applying blackpill in male to male relations doesn't make you sexually attracted to men, but otherwise makes the behavior kinda gay

I can objectively rate my mother, some granny on the street and some girls from 5th grade, that doesn't mean I am attracted to them like tf?

rating females from male perspective is different. You have it built in. Learning blackpill/lookism is kinda like downloading female software to see men through their eyes. That's why its gay

Also "only using bluepill/redpill mindsets with other men" implies you will never have genuine friends. Because blackpill is the truth and anyone not accepting the truth is brainwashed.

Making men friends who are on the same level of attractiveness also makes a lot of sense, since you likely share more experiences with them than with chads or subhumans.

Just like manlets chill with manlets, autists chill with autists and emos chill with emos.

In my friend group at school it's basically an unwritten rule to be at least mmtn and there has been a pattern where guys below that looks level don't remain in the group for long, even though no one thinks about it directly

If looks correlate to success then you should have no problem being friends with people according to redpill principles as opposed to blackpill. It would be gay for you to befriend a good looking dude even if hes socially or financially unsuccessful. Thats FEMALE BEHAVIOR, female sexual selection (blackpill)

Redpill behavior would be befriending a guy like Andrew tate despite his fucked up looks. Thats STRAIGHT, male FRIEND selection (redpill)

 

[combatingNorwooding]

And then I see this video:


Surely another big part of society is this abused dog class as well.

So we have the abused dogs, and among new gens we have outright homos. How can you seriously be rating male models etc?

I think, male-to-male, you shouldn't rate anyone on a scale in order to avoid being gay. If you seriously start rating people IRL instinctively YOU BECOME A WOMAN. in a split second you'll say "damn that nigga mogs" which translates to "damn that nigga is attractive (to women)" and as soon as the thought comes in, NIGGA YOU'RE GAY. THE SECOND YOU SAY A MAN IS ATTRACTIVE (TO WOMEN) YOU'RE GAY. YOU HAVEE, HAAAAAVEEE THE FEMALE GAZE NOW! STOP FUCKING RATING PEOPLE YOU FAGGOTS.

If you wanna be rated, compare yourself to a CHART (made by either women or faggots) that's IT. MALE TO MALE RATINGS ARE GAY. Nothing wrong with being rated by faggots, but lets call it what it is. The person that rates, for a moment, assumes the position of a female or a faggot, in their brain.

Let me establish some ground rules here:
1) If you treat another MAN differently because of his looks only after the blackpill, because hes "attractive" YOU'RE GAY

if you even behave in any way while having the thought of him being attractive in the back of your mind, lingering because of the BP, YOU'RE GAY

Saying a dude is attractive to his face or otherwise is GAY

2) Male to male comparison, competition should be in strength, capability, intelligence, success, money, masculinity. Can we go back to the redpiller days when niggas were just flexing lambos and roided physiques and shit? Everything is super gay now

3) You gotta admit, and I talked about this in my previous threads, since looksmaxing is basically about men becoming like women, some methods of becoming more attractive to women are kinda feminine (makeup, skincare, longer hair...).

So if we combine all these factors together we get a very faggot situation: men with makeup, glowy skin, long hair calling other men attractive left and right, viewing other men through the female gaze/lens, treating other men how females would treat them (because of the BP telling them so in their subconscious/back of the head), not how actual males would interact/treat each other. You're a female, or a faggot, in everything EXCEPT attraction to men. What says you won't become one?

Going back to the abused dogs. Now that so much of the newer generations are either abused dogs or newgen looksmax tiktok crypto homos, idk. I guess I just wanna say we're cooked

This is a vent post anyway lol but I can't formulate these thoughts anyhow.

https://looksmax.org/threads/lookism-is-a-female-status-game.1901205/

Something someone insecure would say

 

[KG4]

And then I see this video:


Surely another big part of society is this abused dog class as well.

So we have the abused dogs, and among new gens we have outright homos. How can you seriously be rating male models etc?

I think, male-to-male, you shouldn't rate anyone on a scale in order to avoid being gay. If you seriously start rating people IRL instinctively YOU BECOME A WOMAN. in a split second you'll say "damn that nigga mogs" which translates to "damn that nigga is attractive (to women)" and as soon as the thought comes in, NIGGA YOU'RE GAY. THE SECOND YOU SAY A MAN IS ATTRACTIVE (TO WOMEN) YOU'RE GAY. YOU HAVEE, HAAAAAVEEE THE FEMALE GAZE NOW! STOP FUCKING RATING PEOPLE YOU FAGGOTS.

If you wanna be rated, compare yourself to a CHART (made by either women or faggots) that's IT. MALE TO MALE RATINGS ARE GAY. Nothing wrong with being rated by faggots, but lets call it what it is. The person that rates, for a moment, assumes the position of a female or a faggot, in their brain.

Let me establish some ground rules here:
1) If you treat another MAN differently because of his looks only after the blackpill, because hes "attractive" YOU'RE GAY

if you even behave in any way while having the thought of him being attractive in the back of your mind, lingering because of the BP, YOU'RE GAY

Saying a dude is attractive to his face or otherwise is GAY

2) Male to male comparison, competition should be in strength, capability, intelligence, success, money, masculinity. Can we go back to the redpiller days when niggas were just flexing lambos and roided physiques and shit? Everything is super gay now

3) You gotta admit, and I talked about this in my previous threads, since looksmaxing is basically about men becoming like women, some methods of becoming more attractive to women are kinda feminine (makeup, skincare, longer hair...).

So if we combine all these factors together we get a very faggot situation: men with makeup, glowy skin, long hair calling other men attractive left and right, viewing other men through the female gaze/lens, treating other men how females would treat them (because of the BP telling them so in their subconscious/back of the head), not how actual males would interact/treat each other. You're a female, or a faggot, in everything EXCEPT attraction to men. What says you won't become one?

Going back to the abused dogs. Now that so much of the newer generations are either abused dogs or newgen looksmax tiktok crypto homos, idk. I guess I just wanna say we're cooked

This is a vent post anyway lol but I can't formulate these thoughts anyhow.

https://looksmax.org/threads/lookism-is-a-female-status-game.1901205/

jordan faget mogs

 

[irrumator praetor]

Something someone insecure would say

the classic projection argument when talking about modern issues

 

[blonde slayer]

I already said, applying blackpill in male to male relations doesn't make you sexually attracted to men, but otherwise makes the behavior kinda gay



rating females from male perspective is different. You have it built in. Learning blackpill/lookism is kinda like downloading female software to see men through their eyes. That's why its gay



If looks correlate to success then you should have no problem being friends with people according to redpill principles as opposed to blackpill. It would be gay for you to befriend a good looking dude even if hes socially or financially unsuccessful. Thats FEMALE BEHAVIOR, female sexual selection (blackpill)

Redpill behavior would be befriending a guy like Andrew tate despite his fucked up looks. Thats STRAIGHT, male FRIEND selection (redpill)

How are u gay if ur not sexually attracted to men tho?

You mean it makes it low t? Then I can understand it, but then again bodybuilders are super high t but they always compare physiques of othwr men where theyre almost naked.

Blackpill is not male or female. Blackpill has no gender. A good looking guy is not generally more succesful because of women's selection, you think all managers that hire ppl, raise their salary and so on are ALL women? Ofc not, it is about the halo effect which works for both genders.

If anything, thinking actively about thjs and rating other guys might be less "gay" than not, bevause a bluepilled guy is going to fall into the halo effects whereas a blackpilled guy can separate the halo effect and objectively think about what someone is actually talking about without mindlessly glazing them.

If i befriend a rich guy who is delusional about being sub5 for example, i will never be his true friend, sure i would respect him for making big bucks and having a grinding mindset but we would never "click" as friends like i would with an actual blackpilled guy.

Also ur argument implies looks are some unusual metric compared to all others (this is what normies think btw) looks is same as money, status, charisma etc. Redpill guys compare who has more lambos roiders compare who has more muscle, looks is most about making urself more masculine, so how is it different?

 

[irrumator praetor]

Then I can understand it, but then again bodybuilders are super high t but they always compare physiques of othwr men where theyre almost naked.

they're bodybuilders
normal men calling other men sexually attractive is gay, always has been

you think all managers that hire ppl, raise their salary and so on are ALL women?

hr departments are predominantly female and we have a higher female workforce and representation yes, this skews data

Ofc not, it is about the halo effect which works for both genders.

The halo effect, depending on to what extreme it is taken, can either be outright super obviously fucking gay or very mild and not gay. Im talking about male-to-male interactions

If anything, thinking actively about thjs and rating other guys might be less "gay" than not

rating other guys is gay

bevause a bluepilled guy is going to fall into the halo effects whereas a blackpilled guy can separate the halo effect and objectively think about what someone is actually talking about without mindlessly glazing them.

depends how far the bluepill guy falls for the halo effect. Too much glazing and hes literally gay or mirroring females glazing him to get group approval (skewed data). If its very mild, then its straight. Black pilled guy should most definitely avoid the halo effect, but often times it actually exacerbates the halo effect and we see more chad glazing (gay) post blackpill

, i will never be his true friend,

BRO THIS IS GAY
You both can be blackpilled but your approach to befriend him based on social status/class is redpill pov. You're fundamentally misunderstanding everything Im talking about

Also ur argument implies looks are some unusual metric compared to all others

Unusual metric in a male value system. MALE-TO-MALE. Put simply: do you pick your male friends or treat male peers according to their looks as if you are a faggot and want to fuck them, or according to money and social status as if you wanna be successful together?

 

[brotato78]

Your a geek lil bro

yep keep touching ur dick to porn while i blast tren and become a dark triad

 

[Tenres]

yep keep touching ur dick to porn while i blast tren and become a dark triad

JFL at u (fag)

 

[irrumator praetor]

I talked previously how tiktok is a hypnosis app. Now in this thread I talked about how men can literally be behaviorally gay.

If you would go down the avenue to suggest .org or looksmaxing is a federal op, it wouldn't be far away from this:

 

[soulless_npc]

I talked previously how tiktok is a hypnosis app. Now in this thread I talked about how men can literally be behaviorally gay.

If you would go down the avenue to suggest .org or looksmaxing is a federal op, it wouldn't be far away from this:

What purpose do you believe this would serve, like what grand agenda? What's the end game?

 

[irrumator praetor]

What purpose do you believe this would serve, like what grand agenda? What's the end game?

idk

 

[Luquier]

Been saying this for the past 10 years, majority of men are cock sucking chad worshipping fags

Trvke

 

[Luquier]

Porn was a mistake..

It convinces your brain that other men fucking women right in front of your eyes is normal, and it normalizes the idea that if you don’t get to do it, it’s just as normal, because they will always be other mmen how will do it in your place anyway.. so you have way less motivation to go out and try to hook up with someone compared to if you’d never seen porn..

The brutal “there will always be someone else to fuck your wife that you didn’t get to have in your place” theory

Porn doesn’t do that

Getting rejected or pitied by girls while real men pull them is what turns you into an apathetic cuck

 

[irrumator praetor]

gay

This is why normies are actually gay

they treat attractive men better as if they have sexual interest, they talk to them like they want to fuck them literally

they worship other male models and athletes irrationally

they worship pretty guys irrationally like women

they talk about male models and athletes, attractive guys like women

and then the opposite: they would treat successful sexually unattractive but well off and normal looking dudes as if they're women, as if they want to signal they have no sexual interest in them (absolutely gay)

they irrationally hate less attractive men despite supposedly having no sexual interest in doing so (goes against material interests)

they gossip about less attractive guys like women do lol, again, super fucking gay as if it benefits them anyhow

 

[R3nd4nqzar]

And then I see this video:


Surely another big part of society is this abused dog class as well.

So we have the abused dogs, and among new gens we have outright homos. How can you seriously be rating male models etc?

I think, male-to-male, you shouldn't rate anyone on a scale in order to avoid being gay. If you seriously start rating people IRL instinctively YOU BECOME A WOMAN. in a split second you'll say "damn that nigga mogs" which translates to "damn that nigga is attractive (to women)" and as soon as the thought comes in, NIGGA YOU'RE GAY. THE SECOND YOU SAY A MAN IS ATTRACTIVE (TO WOMEN) YOU'RE GAY. YOU HAVEE, HAAAAAVEEE THE FEMALE GAZE NOW! STOP FUCKING RATING PEOPLE YOU FAGGOTS.

If you wanna be rated, compare yourself to a CHART (made by either women or faggots) that's IT. MALE TO MALE RATINGS ARE GAY. Nothing wrong with being rated by faggots, but lets call it what it is. The person that rates, for a moment, assumes the position of a female or a faggot, in their brain.

Let me establish some ground rules here:
1) If you treat another MAN differently because of his looks only after the blackpill, because hes "attractive" YOU'RE GAY

if you even behave in any way while having the thought of him being attractive in the back of your mind, lingering because of the BP, YOU'RE GAY

Saying a dude is attractive to his face or otherwise is GAY

2) Male to male comparison, competition should be in strength, capability, intelligence, success, money, masculinity. Can we go back to the redpiller days when niggas were just flexing lambos and roided physiques and shit? Everything is super gay now

3) You gotta admit, and I talked about this in my previous threads, since looksmaxing is basically about men becoming like women, some methods of becoming more attractive to women are kinda feminine (makeup, skincare, longer hair...).

So if we combine all these factors together we get a very faggot situation: men with makeup, glowy skin, long hair calling other men attractive left and right, viewing other men through the female gaze/lens, treating other men how females would treat them (because of the BP telling them so in their subconscious/back of the head), not how actual males would interact/treat each other. You're a female, or a faggot, in everything EXCEPT attraction to men. What says you won't become one?

Going back to the abused dogs. Now that so much of the newer generations are either abused dogs or newgen looksmax tiktok crypto homos, idk. I guess I just wanna say we're cooked

This is a vent post anyway lol but I can't formulate these thoughts anyhow.

https://looksmax.org/threads/lookism-is-a-female-status-game.1901205/

I don't abuse dogs how could I

 

[enlightful]

And then I see this video:


Surely another big part of society is this abused dog class as well.

So we have the abused dogs, and among new gens we have outright homos. How can you seriously be rating male models etc?

I think, male-to-male, you shouldn't rate anyone on a scale in order to avoid being gay. If you seriously start rating people IRL instinctively YOU BECOME A WOMAN. in a split second you'll say "damn that nigga mogs" which translates to "damn that nigga is attractive (to women)" and as soon as the thought comes in, NIGGA YOU'RE GAY. THE SECOND YOU SAY A MAN IS ATTRACTIVE (TO WOMEN) YOU'RE GAY. YOU HAVEE, HAAAAAVEEE THE FEMALE GAZE NOW! STOP FUCKING RATING PEOPLE YOU FAGGOTS.

If you wanna be rated, compare yourself to a CHART (made by either women or faggots) that's IT. MALE TO MALE RATINGS ARE GAY. Nothing wrong with being rated by faggots, but lets call it what it is. The person that rates, for a moment, assumes the position of a female or a faggot, in their brain.

Let me establish some ground rules here:
1) If you treat another MAN differently because of his looks only after the blackpill, because hes "attractive" YOU'RE GAY

if you even behave in any way while having the thought of him being attractive in the back of your mind, lingering because of the BP, YOU'RE GAY

Saying a dude is attractive to his face or otherwise is GAY

2) Male to male comparison, competition should be in strength, capability, intelligence, success, money, masculinity. Can we go back to the redpiller days when niggas were just flexing lambos and roided physiques and shit? Everything is super gay now

3) You gotta admit, and I talked about this in my previous threads, since looksmaxing is basically about men becoming like women, some methods of becoming more attractive to women are kinda feminine (makeup, skincare, longer hair...).

So if we combine all these factors together we get a very faggot situation: men with makeup, glowy skin, long hair calling other men attractive left and right, viewing other men through the female gaze/lens, treating other men how females would treat them (because of the BP telling them so in their subconscious/back of the head), not how actual males would interact/treat each other. You're a female, or a faggot, in everything EXCEPT attraction to men. What says you won't become one?

Going back to the abused dogs. Now that so much of the newer generations are either abused dogs or newgen looksmax tiktok crypto homos, idk. I guess I just wanna say we're cooked

This is a vent post anyway lol but I can't formulate these thoughts anyhow.

https://looksmax.org/threads/lookism-is-a-female-status-game.1901205/

Dnr