A huge fear I have

[Lonenely sigma]

Alr this may sound a bit schizo but hear me out.

Since I am not religious, I don't believe there's any form of soul and afterlife as such.

But if we look at this "life", we just appeared out of nowhere. It happened because there is infinite time and infinite space for anything to happen, and over an infinite time period everything that has any sort of chance happening, will happen.

We don't remember those infinite years because we didn't exist... its almost like we slept through them.

So essentially, the way I see it, after we die we will, from "our" perspective, instantly get respawned as something else, and this circle of life will happen FOREVER.

This means I will infinitely many times get skinned alive by a cartel, infinitely many times get eaten by a huge 8-eyed spider as a tiny insect, infinitely many times go through each evil possible, if not here, then in some place infinitely distant from Earth in the universe

 

[vrilmaxxer]

You will infinitely have sex with Stacy and slay too

 

[Lonenely sigma]

You will infinitely have sex with Stacy and slay too

Good point but like, for that one life to happen you will have to go through many, MAAANNYY lives of being a bacteria getting demolished by a 99.99% effective anti-bacterial cleanser

 

[Defeatist]

That’s why u just relax

 

[Shkreliii]

Alr this may sound a bit schizo but hear me out.

Since I am not religious, I don't believe there's any form of soul and afterlife as such.

But if we look at this "life", we just appeared out of nowhere. It happened because there is infinite time and infinite space for anything to happen, and over an infinite time period everything that has any sort of chance happening, will happen.

We don't remember those infinite years because we didn't exist... its almost like we slept through them.

So essentially, the way I see it, after we die we will, from "our" perspective, instantly get respawned as something else, and this circle of life will happen FOREVER.

This means I will infinitely many times get skinned alive by a cartel, infinitely many times get eaten by a huge 8-eyed spider as a tiny insect, infinitely many times go through each evil possible, if not here, then in some place infinitely distant from Earth in the universe

No lol we rot

 

[Sceptical]

You will infinitely have sex with Stacy and slay too

What about me, will I also get to make passionate love to Stacy and lay in her arms

 

[vrilmaxxer]

What about me, will I also get to make passionate love to Stacy and lay in her arms

Nah, even infinity is not enough

 

[R@m@]

 

[vrilmaxxer]

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I will just keep rerolling till I become a 12 dimensional chad

 

[Lonenely sigma]

What about me, will I also get to make passionate love to Stacy and lay in her arms

Nah, even infinity is not enough

It has to have an above 0% chance boyo

You WILL be a huge white shark at one point tho. I'd say thats kinda cool as well

 

[vrilmaxxer]

It has to have an above 0% chance boyo

You WILL be a huge white shark at one point tho. I'd say thats kinda cool as well

incel shark

 

[Sceptical]

incel shark

brootal
looks like I'm gonna be a no dolphin pussy getting incel shark

 

[vrilmaxxer]

brootal
looks like I'm gonna be a no dolphin pussy getting incel shark

then you can join sharks.org the underwater incel getaway

 

[Lonenely sigma]

incel shark

brootal
looks like I'm gonna be a no dolphin pussy getting incel shark

Someone has to fill the ocean bro

JOKES ASIDE this keeps me up at night, to the point of me basically inventing a religion just to cope.

I hope my beautiful stacy awaits me in utopia in which we are all perfect, healthy, beautiful, all live in a perfect coastal city etc...

I pray for that to happen every night. I don't want to be tortured after I die

 

[Sceptical]

then you can join sharks.org the underwater incel getaway

"But bhai I don't want to be an Incel shark anymore, I want to breed this delicious dolphin pussy "

 

[Lonenely sigma]

@noodlelover your takes are always interesting, do you think I am making some sort of a logic error here? Was there any philospoher/high-iq writer with the similar take like me?

This circle of infinite reincarnation sounds like hell, and the fact it seems the most probable scares me so much.

I wish to get teleported in utopia after I die. If not, I wish to be gone forever.

 

[R@m@]

@noodlelover your takes are always interesting, do you think I am making some sort of a logic error here? Was there any philospoher/high-iq writer with the similar take like me?

This circle of infinite reincarnation sounds like hell, and the fact it seems the most probable scares me so much.

I wish to get teleported in utopia after I die. If not, I wish to be gone forever.

Theres no escaping

Its an endless cycle of finding and ascending to new realities

 

[Shkreliii]

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at courage rn

 

[VV62]

That would be the best outcome every other afterlife possibility is torture

 

[noodlelover]

@noodlelover your takes are always interesting, do you think I am making some sort of a logic error here? Was there any philospoher/high-iq writer with the similar take like me?

Thanks for the tag. It's fun to see some one thinking deeply about these things.

What you are saying is most similar to traditional buddhism with a belief in reincarnation..

This circle of infinite reincarnation sounds like hell, and the fact it seems the most probable scares me so much.

I wish to get teleported in utopia after I die. If not, I wish to be gone forever.

You are making a logical error.

We are the universe. We are all matter and energy. Matter is a form of energy, so we are the energy of the universe.

human beings are bubbles of awareness in that energy. Bubbles where the energy holds a model of itself.

The specific matter in those bubble is gradually swapping out. The bubbles can also split (such as a severed brain which will become two people) or combine such as two brains merging into one.

The bubbles can partially merge, the degree to which they are merged depends on the current bit rate of information exchange between the two bubbles.

So the borders between living entities is fuzzy. Your brain may have clusters with low communication between them, that are battling for different goals. Or you may have a more unified brain from certain kinds of activity. Or any degree of unification or separation, between the two.

The same goes for two people in love, who've spent years together, hive minds, and other groups. And with Ai that you talk too, and soon implants, it will get blurry along yet another dimension.

I like to think of it as bubbles of consciousness that have varying degreed of connectedness and are hierarchically clustered. Cells cluster to sub brain regions, cluster to brain regions, cluster to friend groups, cluster to companies, cluster to towns, cluster to cities, cluster to nations. And then there's cascading clusters.

Each having it's own goals, each cell having different goals, each brain region and so on.

We are also constantly swapping both information and matter between us. The conceputal thing that is you, is gone when you die, but energy that is all of us, is always all of us. All of the humans, the planets, the cosmos, the back holes, the lightning, and the storm clouds.

What we call experience is the configuration of that energy across the entire universe. Even though only small bubbles of energy can talk about it, it's all experience.

 

[NORDEN SLAVORUM]

 

[PostivityCore]

maybe u will have a better username in one or two of them

 

[SA7]

The lack of sex is a disease

 

[SA7]

jfl

 

[Lonenely sigma]

Thanks for the tag. It's fun to see some one thinking deeply about these things.

What you are saying is most similar to traditional buddhism with a belief in reincarnation..


You are making a logical error.

We are the universe. We are all matter and energy. Matter is a form of energy, so we are the energy of the universe.

human beings are bubbles of awareness in that energy. Bubbles where the energy holds a model of itself.

The specific matter in those bubble is gradually swapping out. The bubbles can also split (such as a severed brain which will become two people) or combine such as two brains merging into one.

The bubbles can partially merge, the degree to which they are merged depends on the current bit rate of information exchange between the two bubbles.

So the borders between living entities is fuzzy. Your brain may have clusters with low communication between them, that are battling for different goals. Or you may have a more unified brain from certain kinds of activity. Or any degree of unification or separation, between the two.

The same goes for two people in love, who've spent years together, hive minds, and other groups. And with Ai that you talk too, and soon implants, it will get blurry along yet another dimension.

I like to think of it as bubbles of consciousness that have varying degreed of connectedness and are hierarchically clustered. Cells cluster to sub brain regions, cluster to brain regions, cluster to friend groups, cluster to companies, cluster to towns, cluster to cities, cluster to nations. And then there's cascading clusters.

Each having it's own goals, each cell having different goals, each brain region and so on.

We are also constantly swapping both information and matter between us. The conceputal thing that is you, is gone when you die, but energy that is all of us, is always all of us. All of the humans, the planets, the cosmos, the back holes, the lightning, and the storm clouds.

What we call experience is the configuration of that energy across the entire universe. Even though only small bubbles of energy can talk about it, it's all experience.

Thanks for the reply.

If I understand correctly, your point is that there is really no "me", "you", "him" or anyone else for that matter. You could divide any brain at the right place and have 2 opposing brains, which suggests there isn't one you as such.

This then implies that even if other brains randomly appeared somewhere in the universe, I'd still have nothing to do with them because even though they ARE brains, they are completely different to my brain, so I can't be them.

In order for me to become one of them, I'd have to believe in soul, which'd allow me to transcend from my brain to that brain. So, the only brain I could in theory ever be is this one I currently have, with all its cells, neurons, regions in general in their place.

However, over an infinite amount of time and in the infinite universe, after an infinite amount of time, this identical brain will once appear in its identical form, in its identical place, conditions etc.

Would that not be me? Thats what nobody can confirm or deny, but if that would be me then that infinite cycle would indeed exist after death.

On the other hand though, if I didn't have direct control but some other... "soul"?... then all their actions and thoughts would be completely identical to what I'd think and do. The only difference is that "I" wouldn't be aware.

 

[Swarthy Knight]

What you are saying is most similar to traditional buddhism with a belief in reincarnation..

That's not rly what we believe in. And what OP said technically is reincarnation isn't it?

 

[valentine]

This means I will infinitely many times get skinned alive by a cartel, infinitely many times get eaten by a huge 8-eyed spider as a tiny insect, infinitely many times go through each evil possible, if not here, then in some place infinitely distant from Earth in the universe

yes i think about this a lot. thats why whenever the topic of reincarnation comes up i hope i can just rdincarnate as myself forever so theres no chance of some bullshit like that happening

but also if you live through every event ever that means youll get to experience all the great things in life too

 

[noodlelover]

That's not rly what we believe in. And what OP said technically is reincarnation isn't it?

Buddhists believe in reincarnation, unless it's a specific branch such as atheist Buddhists.

Thanks for the reply.

If I understand correctly, your point is that there is really no "me", "you", "him" or anyone else for that matter. You could divide any brain at the right place and have 2 opposing brains, which suggests there isn't one you as such.

My point is there's not a "you" that persists after death, in the way that we commonly define specific people.

This then implies that even if other brains randomly appeared somewhere in the universe, I'd still have nothing to do with them because even though they ARE brains, they are completely different to my brain, so I can't be them.

In order for me to become one of them, I'd have to believe in soul, which'd allow me to transcend from my brain to that brain. So, the only brain I could in theory ever be is this one I currently have, with all its cells, neurons, regions in general in their place.

However, over an infinite amount of time and in the infinite universe, after an infinite amount of time, this identical brain will once appear in its identical form, in its identical place, conditions etc.

Would that not be me? Thats what nobody can confirm or deny, but if that would be me then that infinite cycle would indeed exist after death.

On the other hand though, if I didn't have direct control but some other... "soul"?... then all their actions and thoughts would be completely identical to what I'd think and do. The only difference is that "I" wouldn't be aware.

My bigger point is that words are simplified models of reality, that aren't descriptive to all situations.

The question of weather that is "you" depends on how you define you. Our words lack concrete agreed upon definitions along the blurry edges of concepts.

So again it all depends on how you choose to define yourself. There is no one right answer. Different people define themselves in different ways and try to perpetuate their existence (having different internal definitions of self) in various ways.

And the concept of self is often blended and fluctuating inside a single brain. Some people identify more heavily with the information in their DNA, so to them life is all about having kids. For other's it's about spreading an idea, and being part of a specific group that they more heavily identify with, and they'll even sacrifice their lives for that group. For others, they identify mostly with their ideas, so they try to perpetuate those after death by writing books and giving speeches. For others it's the energy that composes them and the universe, and they see death as only change.

 

[trench]

This means I will infinitely many times get skinned alive by a cartel, infinitely many times get eaten by a huge 8-eyed spider as a tiny insect, infinitely many times go through each evil possible, if not here, then in some place infinitely distant from Earth in the universe

i actually thought about this a few days ago, good thread bra

 

[moggerofhumanity]

Sounds almost exactly like the Hindu belief of reincarnation (not even joking).
I think something similar that’s even scarier is Nietzsche’s theory of eternal recurrence: our lives will repeat infinitely and that in each life every detail will be exactly the same.
I don’t want to live for eternity as an mtn.

 

[Barry Lyndon]

Depending on your reading of Nietzsche (and some other philosophers) and physics you might interpret eternal recurrence not as some metaphor or something like that but as a physical reality. I personally also lean into this belief which in itself has caused some internal crisis over the implications of this.
Forever and ever you will relive your triumphs, as freshly as the first time. Likewise any kind of shame, humiliation, pain and suffering you will relive over and over again.
Yet in midst of this I can't fully believe in fully deterministic universe. Neither did Nietzsche.

If you like dualities that are seemingly contradictory or so extremely different that you wonder how they might exist within the same reality I recommend William Blake, specifically Songs of Innocence and of Experience. If you like visual art buy a copy that comes with the original illustrations or look them up online. There's a very good website dedicated to William Blake with a lot of material available in high definition.
First poem pair I'd recommend (it's famous for a good reason) is The Tyger - The Lamb.