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A-php was a better fapping enhancer than most stims. Contrarily to classic stims, with a-php there was a significant and reliable, almost guaranteed tactile enhancement which would seemingly accompany every single decent dose and redose. With other stims, there might be slight tactile enhancement at first, but it progressively gets less and less sensitive and, as result, frustrating. With a-php, I could come several times within a single weekend, and at no point did I have to force myself when it comes to genuine tactile fun; it was reliably pleasurable from beginning to end. I think I pushed it to coming 7 times during one of those weekends, and even that 7th time it actually felt good and effortless.
Now, I consider 4-MMC even more pleasurable sexually, but the problem with 4-MMC is that coming can be even more challenging than on amph/meth, and since the first few attempts within a session feel so mindbogglingly pleasant at first (regardless of the end result), it's even easier to get lured in and fap way beyond the desensitization that quickly manifests. Also, it lasts pretty short, so if you're using porn too you might accidentally browse/select videos for the whole duration of a dose of two, without actually starting much watching or fapping. Finally, the tactile desensitization hits quickly; there is only a short timeframe in which you can actually reap its tactile enhancements and have them remain more impressive than, say, amphetamine.
4-MMC was better without porn IMO, just music and pleasuring yourself in whatever way seemed right. It features significant distractability, and heavy dopamine seeking of new content. Hard to actually sit and watch a video, not to mention not skip 12 segments of said video if you actually start one. Music is perfect, especially if you've queued several albums in a row; you won't get eaten alive by the need to seek and can instead focus on pleasure.
TL;DR: with porn, a-php was IMO the best. It was also suited for long fapping sessions (with breaks), at least when vaped from a pg/vg solution of it -- this enabled instant convenient redosing whenever would seem appropriate during your sexual pursuits. Without porn, 4-MMC wins -- its most pleasant acute effects go way beyond those from a-php, but you won't be able to maintain those for very long. With porn, it's perhaps the hardest stim to start actually focusing on a video and start fapping with. Unless you've got an iron will, it's likely you'll entirely miss the window in which its tactile enhancement shines the brightest. And redosing won't bring it back to that same extent past the first 2 redoses, which will have you even more distracted to actually commit to watching and fapping to much other than thumbmails.
@mohito
Now, I consider 4-MMC even more pleasurable sexually, but the problem with 4-MMC is that coming can be even more challenging than on amph/meth, and since the first few attempts within a session feel so mindbogglingly pleasant at first (regardless of the end result), it's even easier to get lured in and fap way beyond the desensitization that quickly manifests. Also, it lasts pretty short, so if you're using porn too you might accidentally browse/select videos for the whole duration of a dose of two, without actually starting much watching or fapping. Finally, the tactile desensitization hits quickly; there is only a short timeframe in which you can actually reap its tactile enhancements and have them remain more impressive than, say, amphetamine.
4-MMC was better without porn IMO, just music and pleasuring yourself in whatever way seemed right. It features significant distractability, and heavy dopamine seeking of new content. Hard to actually sit and watch a video, not to mention not skip 12 segments of said video if you actually start one. Music is perfect, especially if you've queued several albums in a row; you won't get eaten alive by the need to seek and can instead focus on pleasure.
TL;DR: with porn, a-php was IMO the best. It was also suited for long fapping sessions (with breaks), at least when vaped from a pg/vg solution of it -- this enabled instant convenient redosing whenever would seem appropriate during your sexual pursuits. Without porn, 4-MMC wins -- its most pleasant acute effects go way beyond those from a-php, but you won't be able to maintain those for very long. With porn, it's perhaps the hardest stim to start actually focusing on a video and start fapping with. Unless you've got an iron will, it's likely you'll entirely miss the window in which its tactile enhancement shines the brightest. And redosing won't bring it back to that same extent past the first 2 redoses, which will have you even more distracted to actually commit to watching and fapping to much other than thumbmails.
@mohito
eltre despite knowing full well im never using any of ts 
