A question to religious people

[Deleted member 1338]

Humanity existed for more than seven million years ago And religion only existed 4000 years ago

Hinduism is the world's oldest religion, according to many scholars, with roots and customs dating back more than 4,000 years.

So what has happened to all those people who died before that, do they go to hell when nobody told them to pray? Even if they go to heaven without praying wouldn't that be unfair for the people who are praying? This is one of the things that makes me feel religion is just fake promises and lies.

 

[wasted]

i would believe in god if i were 7 psl ngl

 

[Deleted member 9003]

You can’t be judged for something you don’t know

 

[WadlowMaxxing]

No religion is inheritly the right one. The belief in a higher power is not chained to christianity. Religion is about morality, salvation. If they were moral, they achieved salvation in the next life.

 

[Lasko123]

Humanity existed for more than seven million years ago And religion only existed 4000 years ago

Hinduism is the world's oldest religion, according to many scholars, with roots and customs dating back more than 4,000 years.

So what has happened to all those people who died before that, do they go to hell when nobody told them to pray? Even if they go to heaven without praying wouldn't that be unfair for the people who are praying? This is one of the things that makes me feel religion is just fake promises and lies.

Hindus probably went to hell

 

[Enfant terrible]

So what has happened to all those people who died before that, do they go to hell when nobody told them to pray? Even if they go to heaven without praying wouldn't that be unfair for the people who are praying? This is one of the things that makes me feel religion is just fake promises and lies.

To be awarded after death you need to have known god laws and live after them. If you dont know them you cannot be punished because it's against the concept that god is just/good. That why these prophets exist in judaism to tell the people about the law of god.

If you believe in this shit today you are dumb tbh.

 

[quakociaptockh]

So what has happened to all those people who died before that, do they go to hell when nobody told them to pray?

Yes, pretty much everyone went to hell until Christ released them. Since Christ, people can go to heaven.

 

[Deleted member 5969]

Well the first people on this Earth were religious.
The people on Earth who have never heard of God etc are judged on a different scale.

 

[Gonthar]

o what has happened to all those people who died before that, do they go to hell when nobody told them to pray? Even if they go to heaven without praying wouldn't that be unfair for the people who are praying? This is one of the things that makes me feel religion is just fake promises and lies.

Some Christian denominations believe that people who didn't convert, even those who never heard of Jesus or were born before he appeared, won't get eternal life, it's over for them!

 

[Deleted member 10536]

Humanity existed for more than seven million years ago And religion only existed 4000 years ago

Hinduism is the world's oldest religion, according to many scholars, with roots and customs dating back more than 4,000 years.

So what has happened to all those people who died before that, do they go to hell when nobody told them to pray? Even if they go to heaven without praying wouldn't that be unfair for the people who are praying? This is one of the things that makes me feel religion is just fake promises and lies.

Over for your iq, tbh. I'm sorry.

 

[Deleted member 6273]

No religion is inheritly the right one. The belief in a higher power is not chained to christianity. Religion is about morality, salvation. If they were moral, they achieved salvation in the next life.

Morality is man made for the most part.

 

[Enfant terrible]

Morality is man made for the most part.

What do you mean with for the most part?

 

[Deleted member 6273]

What do you mean with for the most part?

Some of it is as a result of evolution. That's why there are very similar universal moral values like do not kill innocent members of the tribe or generally empathy.

 

[Deleted member 1338]

Over for your iq, tbh. I'm sorry.

Why?

 

[Enfant terrible]

Some of it is as a result of evolution. That's why there are very similar universal moral values like do not kill innocent members of the tribe or generally empathy.

I agree

 

[Deleted member 10536]

Why?

You're questioning whether people go to hell or heaven or wherever, after the death, assuming that religion is in any way right/has an answer. It's akin to tales about santa clauss for little kids 4 years of age.
Your question predisposes on an objectively unknown truth for one and fairy tales for the other. There's no point to even ask such a childish question. From scientific standpoint there arguably is an answer though. Which is the closest answer. Anyway, don't take it personally or anything. Just seemed strange to see such a question.
Off topic. Was stopped by some evangelists people in the street today, and they were trying to convince me that I will go to hell unless I accept JC, also seemed like a very negative people. Assuming a lot of things and calling everything evil, sinful, etc. God gave us suffering, because yada yada, tbh, didn't make much sense.
Anyway, all I look for is love.

 

[Deleted member 3990]

Hinduism is the world's oldest religion, according to many scholars, with roots and customs dating back more than 4,000 years.

Religion per their definition. An Institution.
There is a certain reason why all old religion and mythology was founded nearly at the same time around the globe.

Our planetary system was like this once, before the sun "captured" us (earth).
Saturn was pretty much the sun, because at that time the sun was too far away to exert its force on Earth, Mars and Venus.
The electric field of Saturn then gave us a pretty light gravity, enabling dinosaurs to even lift their feet of the ground at the same time the reason why they were so tall.

Interestingly enough, in Saturn's reign the humans also existed aswell which would explain the large carved stone skulls at Easter Island and the myth of giant people overall. Many would call them Nephilim but I think there is still a fine distinction between actual giants and a giant skull.

Anyways, as you now know that the planetary system was different, you would conclude that it changed somehow. You are right, but it was not a peaceful change into the system we know now.
All this is a theory and what exactely happened is still insanely disputed. But I subscribe to this theory (Proto-Saturn theory, based on Electric Universe theory (Nikola Tesla))

This was the sky during Saturns reign
in front, Mars. In the back Saturn. Between Venus
Saturn is the latin name of Chronos. For people interested in greek mythology, you already know that Chronos was the main god before the Olympic gods. And this is not only in greek mythology, in Germanic it is the giant Ymir killed by Odin and his brothers

But why did they kill him. Why in nearly every mythology is there a story of a allmighty father who brought a golden era but then snapped for whatever reason?
Adam and Eva in Eden, but they made a sin and god punished them and threw them out of paradise?
Cronos reign was a golden era, everything was fine. Which can be explained by the low gravity and that there was no night because the plasma sheat was constantly illuminated.
When studies show that living on a tall mountain immensly increases your life span, then imagine a gravity/world where people could easily grow 2 metres and most likely taller? They would live pretty damn long.

But for whatever physic reason, there was a time where the electric currents between the planets became more stiff and crude and the Saturn increasingly drifted into the power realm of the sun.
There were alot of things happening in the sky which I cant explain or do not remember anymore, but thats when the myth/religion came to life. The war god Mars, the beatiful goddess Venus and the father Saturn who was dethroned by Jupiter. The sun taking over as main god.
The holiday changed from Saturday (Sabbatth, day of Saturn) to Sunday.
I think nearly everything is based on those occurences in the sky. The end of the golden era, exclusion of the paradise, alot of natural catastrophies when Saturn snapped and later on was dethroned.

If a little planet like our moon can control our tides, then imagine what would happen when nearly everything in the planetary system is in turmoil and also exchanging electrical charges which literally scar and laser in craters into the planets?
I think those people who survived were so damn frightened that they literally worshipped the gods that something like this would not happen again or in the hopes that they will come back into the golden era? Eden?
This all is theoretical and not definite, but with this theory I can connect alot more dots than with the mainstream ideas.
if anyone is interested, I can link you the sites of information

 

[Deleted member 1338]

You're questioning whether people go to hell or heaven or wherever, after the death, assuming that religion is in any way right/has an answer. It's akin to tales about santa clauss for little kids 4 years of age.
Your question predisposes on an objectively unknown truth for one and fairy tales for the other. There's no point to even ask such a childish question. From scientific standpoint there arguably is an answer though. Which is the closest answer. Anyway, don't take it personally or anything. Just seemed strange to see such a question.
Off topic. Was stopped by some evangelists people in the street today, and they were trying to convince me that I will go to heaven if I don't accept JC, also seemed like a very negative people. Assuming a lot of things and calling everything evil, sinful, etc. God gave us suffering, because yada yada, tbh, didn't make much sense.
Anyway, all I look for is love.

I am not religious jfl. it's just a question to see the comedy replies and have a good laugh they are so fucking retarded.

 

[Enfant terrible]

You're questioning whether people go to hell or heaven or wherever, after the death, assuming that religion is in any way right/has an answer. It's akin to tales about santa clauss for little kids 4 years of age.
Your question predisposes on an objectively unknown truth for one and fairy tales for the other. There's no point to even ask such a childish question. From scientific standpoint there arguably is an answer though. Which is the closest answer. Anyway, don't take it personally or anything. Just seemed strange to see such a question.
Off topic. Was stopped by some evangelists people in the street today, and they were trying to convince me that I will go to heaven if I don't accept JC, also seemed like a very negative people. Assuming a lot of things and calling everything evil, sinful, etc. God gave us suffering, because yada yada, tbh, didn't make much sense.
Anyway, all I look for is love.

He said he didn't believe in religion. He wanted to know how religious people would explain this.
The thread is called a question for religious people. So op is not religious.

 

[Deleted member 10536]

He said he didn't believe in religion. He wanted to know how religious people would explain this.
The thread is called a question for religious people. So op is not religious.

Ye I get that. Just seemed like op was confused and questioning things, because he was unsure of how it really is. It just triggered me, as I've met people today with all this bs. I just couldn't believe in a coincidence.

 

[Enfant terrible]

Religion per their definition. An Institution.
There is a certain reason why all old religion and mythology was founded nearly at the same time around the globe.
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Our planetary system was like this once, before the sun "captured" us (earth).
Saturn was pretty much the sun, because at that time the sun was too far away to exert its force on Earth, Mars and Venus.
The electric field of Saturn then gave us a pretty light gravity, enabling dinosaurs to even lift their feet of the ground at the same time the reason why they were so tall.
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Interestingly enough, in Saturn's reign the humans also existed aswell which would explain the large carved stone skulls at Easter Island and the myth of giant people overall. Many would call them Nephilim but I think there is still a fine distinction between actual giants and a giant skull.
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Anyways, as you now know that the planetary system was different, you would conclude that it changed somehow. You are right, but it was not a peaceful change into the system we know now.
All this is a theory and what exactely happened is still insanely disputed. But I subscribe to this theory (Proto-Saturn theory, based on Electric Universe theory (Nikola Tesla))
View attachment 820169
This was the sky during Saturns reign
in front, Mars. In the back Saturn. Between Venus
Saturn is the latin name of Chronos. For people interested in greek mythology, you already know that Chronos was the main god before the Olympic gods. And this is not only in greek mythology, in Germanic it is the giant Ymir killed by Odin and his brothers
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But why did they kill him. Why in nearly every mythology is there a story of a allmighty father who brought a golden era but then snapped for whatever reason?
Adam and Eva in Eden, but they made a sin and god punished them and threw them out of paradise?
Cronos reign was a golden era, everything was fine. Which can be explained by the low gravity and that there was no night because the plasma sheat was constantly illuminated.
When studies show that living on a tall mountain immensly increases your life span, then imagine a gravity/world where people could easily grow 2 metres and most likely taller? They would live pretty damn long.
View attachment 820184
But for whatever physic reason, there was a time where the electric currents between the planets became more stiff and crude and the Saturn increasingly drifted into the power realm of the sun.
There were alot of things happening in the sky which I cant explain or do not remember anymore, but thats when the myth/religion came to life. The war god Mars, the beatiful goddess Venus and the father Saturn who was dethroned by Jupiter. The sun taking over as main god.
The holiday changed from Saturday (Sabbatth, day of Saturn) to Sunday.
I think nearly everything is based on those occurences in the sky. The end of the golden era, exclusion of the paradise, alot of natural catastrophies when Saturn snapped and later on was dethroned.
View attachment 820193
If a little planet like our moon can control our tides, then imagine what would happen when nearly everything in the planetary system is in turmoil and also exchanging electrical charges which literally scar and laser in craters into the planets?
I think those people who survived were so damn frightened that they literally worshipped the gods that something like this would not happen again or in the hopes that they will come back into the golden era? Eden?
This all is theoretical and not definite, but with this theory I can connect alot more dots than with the mainstream ideas.
if anyone is interested, I can link you the sites of information

do you really believe this?

 

[Deleted member 3990]

do you really believe this?

Rather side with Tesla than with some random I met on the internet who wants to belittle me. While the proto-saturn theory is not his, but certainly are his findings and theories on Electricity where all this stems from.
And I repeatedly said that I am knowledgeable enough to say what is true but this sounds more convincing than the explanation of the unvierse we have nowadays

 

[Deleted member 3043]

jfl

Yes, pretty much everyone went to hell until Christ released them. Since Christ, people can go to heaven.

at this theology.

To answer OP : it's the same for babies that die without reaching the age of reasoning.
We do believe that our former nature is good, and is inherently believing in god.
So, similar to disabled people who can't think, similar to babies, and kids, if those dudes didn't received a god's messenger to tell them the truth, they are in heaven.

 

[Enfant terrible]

Rather side with Tesla than with some random I met on the internet who wants to belittle me. While the proto-saturn theory is not his, but certainly are his findings and theories on Electricity where all this stems from.
And I repeatedly said that I am knowledgeable enough to say what is true but this sounds more convincing than the explanation of the unvierse we have nowadays

just wanted to know if troll or legit

 

[Deleted member 3990]

And I repeatedly said that I am NOT knowledgeable enough to say

it comes of pretty stupid when I forget to write words like this but it happens too often lately