A realist's guide to mewing, how to do it, and what to expect

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mewing is one of the most talked about subjects pertaining to looksmaxxing and cephalometry, and naturally, as with all talked about things there will be misconceptions regarding it. the misconceptions that specifically surround mewing however, are mostly to do with the fact that the entirety of PSL userbase consists of retards who think themselves to be little fucking scientists, misinterpreting any and every word that comes out of mike mew's mouth as literal fact along with consistently stringing scientific buzzwords together without knowing what they mean, which, in turn makes real information nearly impossible to find. these things along with virtually nobody on the site having any educational background in biochemistry or mechanostat for verifying the validity and factual identity of posts paves way to a serious case of dunning kruger syndrome, perhaps birthing possibly one of the biggest and most well known potential scams on the planet.

mewing is NOT:
- pushing the back of your palate with your posterior third
- pushing the entirety of your roof with your tongue
- pushing solely the front of your palate with tip
- pushing in short, hard inconsistent bursts (hardmewing)

mewing has been, and always will be as stated by mike mew, straight head posture (frankfurt plane as in head over shoulders), tip of tongue pushing lightly on the ridge right before but not touching incisors, with a suction hold with your posterior third on your back palate but not on your soft palate so as to allow for full and efficient breathing 24/7.

how do you do it? it's simple in theory but practice makes perfect. you start performing a chin tuck and doing a full swallow, from there you should feel the suction on your back palate and soft palate and now here comes the hard part, you have to disengage the suction between your soft palate without disrupting the suction between the back of your hard palate. in order to do this you need to train yourself to raise your soft palate consciously (it becomes subconscious overtime) or else you won't be able to breathe. this video explains it in greater detail:



to understand why this is the ONLY and most efficient way of mewing requires basic knowledge of viscerocranial anatomy and basic physics 101./
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first we need to understand that the maxilla is like a boat. you can shift it up or down on one side or the other with relative ease. the maxilla also comprises the temporomandibular joint and thus its movement has a profound effect on the mandible and also, to an extent, the neurocranium. the movement shown here is ideal since when you pull the back of the maxilla down, the back of the mandible (comprised of the gonion, ramus and condyle) also move down, your occlusal plane moves positively, your ramus becomes more pronounced, and your chin/jaw see a complete upswing and forward progression.

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here is a case of completely unideal movement seen by the maxilla. pushing up on the back of your maxilla/palate serves to only increase your gonial angle, shift your occlusal plane negatively risking an open bite, shortening your ramus into your ear and fucking up your face. it's simple physics.

we tend to view our bodily parts and bones under the illusion that they are individual components (which assumes that if you were to modify one you would have negligible effect on the others), we've been taught to view our organs as separate entities which completely disregards the logic of cause and effect. the reality couldn't be further from the truth, our body is composed of a fascial net which in itself is comprised of various tissue and collagen covering all of our organs, bones, muscles forming an interconnectedness of sorts. this fractal form can be seen everywhere, from the insides of individual cells, to the networks of cells, to the structure of bones and organs, all the way to the entire human form: it’s just webs inside of webs, a fractal pattern on different scales which form the entire body. you cannot neglect one thing and expect the other to function unaccordingly.

mewing should be a standard, it shouldn't be preached, it should be taught at birth and learned how to be performed subconsciously at a young age. the issue here being however that the efficacy of mewing is exponentially reduced as you grow into your teens and early adulthood, so that when you hit your 20s, you can practically expect there only marginal changes from then out, and i mean marginal. don't expect any sort of large cosmetic changes apart from minor functional ones. the good news is that facepulling does the exact same thing - being part bending part suction. getting a facepuller shouldnt be up for debate either, everyone should get it. it's a mandatory looksmax. you simply can't see the same results from fillers or implants compared to an osteotomy or brute physical changes induced by a facebow. they don't compare. fillers and implants are temporary, they degrade bone, are unnatural and dont act as a part of environment whereas an osteotomy or learned force overtime becomes permanent, significant and far more convincing than any cosmetic surgery out there. if you aren't mewing or ordering a facebow you've already lost, you've reached the wall, in fact give up on looksmaxxing entirely.


TL;DR - push on the area right before your incisors and perform suction on the back of your palate. anything else is retarded and pure speculation
 
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imagine people in 2020 still not believing in proper oral posture and calling it a cope :lul:
 
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mewing is one of the most talked about subjects pertaining to looksmaxxing and cephalometry alike so naturally, as with all talked about things there will be misconceptions regarding it. the misconceptions that specifically surround mewing however, are mostly to do with the fact that the entirety of PSL userbase consists of retards who think themselves to be little fucking scientists, misinterpreting any and every word that comes out of mike mew's mouth as literal fact along with consistently stringing scientific buzzwords together without knowing what they mean, which, in turn makes real information nearly impossible to find. these things along with virtually nobody on the site having any educational background in biochemistry or mechanostat for verifying the validity and factual identity of posts paves way to a serious case of dunning kruger syndrome, perhaps birthing possibly one of the biggest and most well known potential scams on the planet.

mewing is NOT:
- pushing the back of your palate with your posterior third
- pushing the entirety of your roof with your tongue
- pushing solely the front of your palate with tip
- pushing in short, hard inconsistent bursts (hardmewing)

mewing has been, and always will be as stated by mike mew, straight head posture (frankfurt plane as in head over shoulders), tip of tongue pushing lightly on the ridge right before but not touching incisors, with a suction hold with your posterior third on your back palate but not on your soft palate so as to allow for full and efficient breathing 24/7.

how do you do it? it's simple in theory but practice makes perfect. you start performing a chin tuck and doing a full swallow, from there you should feel the suction on your back palate and soft palate and now here comes the hard part, you have to disengage the suction between your soft palate without disrupting the suction between the back of your hard palate. in order to do this you need to train yourself to raise your soft palate consciously (it becomes subconscious overtime) or else you won't be able to breathe. this video explains it in greater detail:



to understand why this is the ONLY and most efficient way of mewing requires basic knowledge of viscerocranial anatomy and basic physics 101./
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first we need to understand that the maxilla is like a boat. you can shift it up or down on one side or the other with relative ease. the maxilla also comprises the temporomandibular joint and thus its movement has a profound effect on the mandible and also, to an extent, the neurocranium. the movement shown here is ideal since when you pull the back of the maxilla down, the back of the mandible (comprised of the gonion, ramus and condyle) also move down, your occlusal plane moves positively, your ramus becomes more pronounced, and your chin/jaw see a complete upswing and forward progression.

lFG4K79.png

here is a case of completely unideal movement seen by the maxilla. pushing up on the back of your maxilla/palate serves to only increase your gonial angle, shift your occlusal plane negatively risking an open bite, shortening your ramus into your ear and fucking up your face. it's simple physics.

we tend to view our bodily parts and bones under the illusion that they are individual components (which assumes that if you were to modify one you would have negligible effect on the others), we've been taught to view our organs as separate entities which completely disregards the logic of cause and effect. the reality couldn't be further from the truth, our body is composed of a fascial net which in itself is comprised of various tissue and collagen covering all of our organs, bones, muscles forming an interconnectedness of sorts. this fractal form can be seen everywhere, from the insides of individual cells, to the networks of cells, to the structure of bones and organs, all the way to the entire human form: it’s just webs inside of webs, a fractal pattern on different scales which form the entire body. you cannot neglect one thing and expect the other to function unaccordingly.

mewing should be a standard, it shouldn't be preached, it should be taught at birth and learned how to be performed subconsciously at a young age. the issue here being however that the efficacy of mewing is exponentially reduced as you grow into your teens and early adulthood, so that when you hit your 20s, you can practically expect there only marginal changes from then out, and i mean marginal. don't expect any sort of large cosmetic changes apart from minor functional ones. the good news is that facepulling does the exact same thing - being part bending part suction. getting a facepuller shouldnt be up for debate either, everyone should get it. it's a mandatory looksmax. you simply can't see the same results from fillers or implants compared to an osteotomy or brute physical changes induced by a facebow. they don't compare. fillers and implants are temporary, they degrade bone, are unnatural and dont act as a part of environment whereas an osteotomy or learned force overtime becomes permanent, significant and far more convincing than any cosmetic surgery out there. if you aren't mewing or ordering a facebow you've already lost, you've reached the wall, in fact give up on looksmaxxing entirely.


TL;DR - push on the area right before your incisors and perform suction on the back of your palate. anything else is retarded and pure speculation

Didnt read because mewing dont work after 12
 
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mewing is one of the most talked about subjects pertaining to looksmaxxing and cephalometry alike so naturally, as with all talked about things there will be misconceptions regarding it. the misconceptions that specifically surround mewing however, are mostly to do with the fact that the entirety of PSL userbase consists of retards who think themselves to be little fucking scientists, misinterpreting any and every word that comes out of mike mew's mouth as literal fact along with consistently stringing scientific buzzwords together without knowing what they mean, which, in turn makes real information nearly impossible to find. these things along with virtually nobody on the site having any educational background in biochemistry or mechanostat for verifying the validity and factual identity of posts paves way to a serious case of dunning kruger syndrome, perhaps birthing possibly one of the biggest and most well known potential scams on the planet.

mewing is NOT:
- pushing the back of your palate with your posterior third
- pushing the entirety of your roof with your tongue
- pushing solely the front of your palate with tip
- pushing in short, hard inconsistent bursts (hardmewing)

mewing has been, and always will be as stated by mike mew, straight head posture (frankfurt plane as in head over shoulders), tip of tongue pushing lightly on the ridge right before but not touching incisors, with a suction hold with your posterior third on your back palate but not on your soft palate so as to allow for full and efficient breathing 24/7.

how do you do it? it's simple in theory but practice makes perfect. you start performing a chin tuck and doing a full swallow, from there you should feel the suction on your back palate and soft palate and now here comes the hard part, you have to disengage the suction between your soft palate without disrupting the suction between the back of your hard palate. in order to do this you need to train yourself to raise your soft palate consciously (it becomes subconscious overtime) or else you won't be able to breathe. this video explains it in greater detail:



to understand why this is the ONLY and most efficient way of mewing requires basic knowledge of viscerocranial anatomy and basic physics 101./
unknown.png

first we need to understand that the maxilla is like a boat. you can shift it up or down on one side or the other with relative ease. the maxilla also comprises the temporomandibular joint and thus its movement has a profound effect on the mandible and also, to an extent, the neurocranium. the movement shown here is ideal since when you pull the back of the maxilla down, the back of the mandible (comprised of the gonion, ramus and condyle) also move down, your occlusal plane moves positively, your ramus becomes more pronounced, and your chin/jaw see a complete upswing and forward progression.

lFG4K79.png

here is a case of completely unideal movement seen by the maxilla. pushing up on the back of your maxilla/palate serves to only increase your gonial angle, shift your occlusal plane negatively risking an open bite, shortening your ramus into your ear and fucking up your face. it's simple physics.

we tend to view our bodily parts and bones under the illusion that they are individual components (which assumes that if you were to modify one you would have negligible effect on the others), we've been taught to view our organs as separate entities which completely disregards the logic of cause and effect. the reality couldn't be further from the truth, our body is composed of a fascial net which in itself is comprised of various tissue and collagen covering all of our organs, bones, muscles forming an interconnectedness of sorts. this fractal form can be seen everywhere, from the insides of individual cells, to the networks of cells, to the structure of bones and organs, all the way to the entire human form: it’s just webs inside of webs, a fractal pattern on different scales which form the entire body. you cannot neglect one thing and expect the other to function unaccordingly.

mewing should be a standard, it shouldn't be preached, it should be taught at birth and learned how to be performed subconsciously at a young age. the issue here being however that the efficacy of mewing is exponentially reduced as you grow into your teens and early adulthood, so that when you hit your 20s, you can practically expect there only marginal changes from then out, and i mean marginal. don't expect any sort of large cosmetic changes apart from minor functional ones. the good news is that facepulling does the exact same thing - being part bending part suction. getting a facepuller shouldnt be up for debate either, everyone should get it. it's a mandatory looksmax. you simply can't see the same results from fillers or implants compared to an osteotomy or brute physical changes induced by a facebow. they don't compare. fillers and implants are temporary, they degrade bone, are unnatural and dont act as a part of environment whereas an osteotomy or learned force overtime becomes permanent, significant and far more convincing than any cosmetic surgery out there. if you aren't mewing or ordering a facebow you've already lost, you've reached the wall, in fact give up on looksmaxxing entirely.


TL;DR - push on the area right before your incisors and perform suction on the back of your palate. anything else is retarded and pure speculation

IMAGINE MAKING A GUIDE ON SOMETHING UR MEANT TO DO FROM BIRTH

BRB IN THE NEXT EPISODE YOU WILL TEACH US HOW TO TAKE A SHIT WITH PERFECT POSTURE
 
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whatever faggots

i try to explain the science behind something and you just shit on it
 
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first we need to understand that the maxilla is like a boat. you can shift it up or down on one side or the other with relative ease.
This is a bold premise. How do you justify it? Are you aware of what kind of magic such shifting would require from all the circummaxillary bones?
 
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this shit is holding me back from ascension so fucking bad I swear to god I am going to facepull with the most blackpilled weight known to mankind either I die or ascend DED SRS
 

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this shit is holding me back from ascension so fucking bad I swear to god I am going to facepull with the most blackpilled weight known to mankind either I die or ascend DED SRS
you are going to end up looking like an ape
 
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Didnt read because mewing dont work after 12
Why is it always users with Chico avis who act like complete faggots?




inb4 "ok greycel"
 
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Why is it always users with Chico avis who act like complete faggots?




inb4 "ok greycel"
Not a single result was posted, keep mewing and wasting your time
 
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Fwacag

no mewing for ur face
Why is it always users with Chico avis who act like complete faggots?




inb4 "ok greycel"
youre desperate for mewing to change your face, your rage is understandable but one day youre gonna have to come to terms with the fact that youre just a coping greycel
 
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This is a bold premise. How do you justify it? Are you aware of what kind of magic such shifting would require from all the circummaxillary bones?

what's a bold premise, that your maxilla is like a seesaw? the force applied on the maxilla is just as equally distributed on the circummaxillary bones. they have no choice but to move in tandem with it
 
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@retard If you don’t mind, can you comment on this?
 
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Sure just chew and mew bro
 
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@retard If you don’t mind, can you comment on this?
High effort low iq thread ngl, you can’t push the maxilla forwards unless you’re applying a forward force which can only be done with the posterior third as the ridge between your hard and soft palate meet allows for you to apply a forwards force, while and other force on the hard palate will just apply an upwards force to cause an upswing and not cause any forward growth


Back of tongue = forward growth of maxilla
Front of tongue = upswing of maxilla/CCW rotation
jaws close together = jaw forward growth + upswing of jaw
 
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i try to explain the science behind something and you just shit on it
Your are pulling out of your arse and take the nature of posture and developement as defense
 
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Retard thread ngl, you can’t push the maxilla forwards unless you’re applying a forward force which can only be done with the posterior third as the ridge between your hard and soft palate meet allows for you to apply a forwards force, while and other force on the hard palate will just apply an upwards force to cause an upswing and not cause any forward growth


Back of tongue = forward growth of maxilla
Front of tongue = upswing of maxilla/CCW rotation
jaws close together = jaw forward growth + upswing of jaw

you can't just "apply" a forward force to the maxilla.. this implies that you either have a frictional force acting anteriorly between your tongue and the roof of the maxilla (which isn't even functionally possible due to how slippery the inside of your mouth is) or you're somehow pushing it at palatine bone which also isn't possible since there is no way your posterior third can even reach it, let alone push it in the forward direction in the manner you claim it can.
 
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no mewing for ur ugly ass
 
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Your are pulling out of your arse and take the nature of posture and developement as defense

you make 0 sense you incoherent ignorant babbling autist bafoon go back to shit infested streets you came from

are you here to shit on what is otherwise a scientific oriented discussion and fling shit like the sub 100 iq currymunching subhuman you are or are you going to explain why i'm wrong in detail
 
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you make 0 sense you incoherent ignorant babbling autist bafoon go back to shit infested streets you came from

are you here to shit on what is otherwise a scientific oriented discussion and fling shit like the sub 100 iq currymunching subhuman you are or are you going to explain why i'm wrong in detail
ur smart
 
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you can't just "apply" a forward force to the maxilla.. this implies that you either have a frictional force acting anteriorly between your tongue and the roof of the maxilla (which isn't even functionally possible due to how slippery the inside of your mouth is) or you're somehow pushing it at palatine bone which also isn't possible since there is no way your posterior third can even reach it, let alone push it in the forward direction in the manner you claim it can.
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The ridge between your soft and hard palate allows a place for your tongue to apply a forward force to push the maxilla forward with

this is why the mews always stress the important of the posterior third because it’s the part that distributes all the force to the CM sutures to stimulate growth
 
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The ridge between your soft and hard palate allows a place for your tongue to apply a forward force to push the maxilla forward with

this is why the mews always stress the important of the posterior third because it’s the part that distributes all the force to the CM sutures to stimulate growth

your posterior third can't push anywhere but UP. it's an UPWARDS force. how do you expect it to push the maxilla forward if the force applied doesn't match the direction in which you're claiming the maxilla will move?
 
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you make 0 sense you incoherent ignorant babbling autist bafoon go back to shit infested streets you came from

are you here to shit on what is otherwise a scientific oriented discussion and fling shit like the sub 100 iq currymunching subhuman you are or are you going to explain why i'm wrong in detail
Lost your credibility, already won
 
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Lost your credibility, already won

muh i lost my credibility because i insulted you. what are you, a snowflake?

you probably didn't even read my post and you're talking shit for no reason
 
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your posterior third can't push anywhere but UP. it's an UPWARDS force. how do you expect it to push the maxilla forward if the force applied doesn't match the direction?

dumbass. When you are pushing you tongue on the roof you can literally feel that it’s going forward
 
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dumbass. When you are pushing you tongue on the roof you can literally feel that it’s going forward

you are beyond retarded, unironically kill yourself.
 
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your posterior third can't push anywhere but UP. it's an UPWARDS force. how do you expect it to push the maxilla forward if the force applied doesn't match the direction in which you're claiming the maxilla will move?
no it can push forward lol, if that was the case if you pushed the back third of your tongue forwards it would come out of your mouth, but it doesn’t since it runs into the ridge and if your tongue is pushing on the ridge in a forward direction then it’s a forward force on the maxilla



I get what you are saying though, you are on the right thought process trying to mimic the way a facepuller pushs forward on the first ridge, but trying to mimic this is unoptimal if you have access the back of the tongue where you can apply much more force with both parts than simply the front alone, you can get away with it with a FPer since it uses such high forces compared to the tongue
 
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You are trying so hard to sound intelligent but everything you are saying is retarted

you are retarded for thinking that the tongue, which lies parallel to and under your palate is capable of pushing a flat surface forward in the absence of friction. it's like you don't even know basic physics and everything you say is ultimately regurgitated third hand from other shit flinging retarded autists who dont have a clue about what they're talking about, you just keep flinging one shit after another
 
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you are retarded for thinking that the tongue, which lies parallel to and under your palate is capable of pushing a flat surface forward in the absence of friction. it's like you don't even know basic physics and everything you say is autistically regurgitated third hand from other people
You believing that mewing works after childhood shows your intelligence
No need to argue with someone so low iq
 
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no it can push forward lol, if that was the case if you pushed the back third of your tongue forwards it would come out of your mouth, but it doesn’t since it runs into the ridge and if your tongue is pushing on the ridge in a forward direction then it’s a forward force on the maxilla

what are you even talking about? YOU CANT push a flat surface forward like that in the absence of friction with your tongue dude wtf jfl
 
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what are you even talking about? YOU CANT push a flat surface in the absence of friction with your tongue dude wtf jfl
i get what u are saying but u are forgetting the top palate isn’t just a flat line

you would be correct in your reasoning about not being able to apply a forward force without friction if it was completely flat, but that isn’t correct your palate has curves in it, and they can be used to distribute forward forces to, just feel the geometry of your mouth with the tip of your tongue and you can feel the drop down right at the end of your hard palate and soft palate, this is what is utilized to apply a forwards force to
 
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i get what u are saying but u are forgetting the top palate isn’t just a flat line

you would be correct in your reasoning about not being able to apply a forward force without friction if it was completely flat, but that isn’t correct your palate has curves in it, and they can be used to distribute forward forces to, just feel the geometry of your mouth with the tip of your tongue and you can feel the drop down right at the end of your hard palate and soft palate, this is what is utilized to apply a forwards force to

the alveolar process curves down maybe, but that's it. there is literally no curve at the back of your palate and for all intents and purposes it can be considered flat. your tongue can't deliver forward force with the posterior third, only with the tip of your tongue. you're trying to tell me that the posterior third can dig itself between the hard palate and the soft palate, and somehow dig itself deep enough so that it directly pushes on the maxillary palatine bone. it can't, and even if it could it isn't practical for someone to mew 24/7 like that
 
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the alveolar process curves down maybe, but that's it. there is literally no curve at the back of your palate and for all intents and purposes it can be considered flat. your tongue can't deliver forward force with the posterior third, only with the tip of your tongue. you're trying to tell me that the posterior third can dig itself between the hard palate and the soft palate, and somehow dig itself deep enough so that it directly pushes on the maxillary palatine bone. it can't, it's never been observed nor is it practical to do so.
The soft palate is extremely elastic, when your tongue is there it displaces it upwards tons and creates a large curve/ridge for a forward force
 
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The soft palate is extremely elastic, when your tongue is there it displaces it upwards tons and creates a large curve/ridge for a forward force

even if it were true, you'd be delivering upward force on the back of your palate since you can't displace your entire tongue which is a no no.
 
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even if it were true, you'd be delivering upward force on the back of your palate since you can't displace your entire tongue which is a no no.
the tongue just from existing in that vicinity displaces the soft palate without requiring an upward force, it is still going into that ridge in the forward direction
 
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the tongue just from existing in that vicinity displaces the soft palate without requiring an upward force, it is still going into that ridge in the forward direction

doesnt seem practical at all, i'd like to see some proof that the tongue when pushed into your soft palate causes enough displacement to redirect the force completely. it just seems absurd and completely contrary to what mike mew says
 
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doesnt seem practical at all, i'd like to see some proof that the tongue when pushed into your soft palate causes enough displacement to redirect the force completely. it just seems absurd and completely contrary to what mike mew says
that’s not what I’m saying but I don’t think I can explain it

u don’t seem low iq u just have a fundamental misunderstanding of either the mouths geometry or force distributions
 
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that’s not what I’m saying but I don’t think I can explain it

u don’t seem low iq u just have a fundamental misunderstanding of either the mouths geometry or force distributions

time to go back to the fucking drawing board

will be back when i know full well what the fuck im talking about
 
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