A theory and notice; recessed maxilla = largely projected nasal bone/bony vault?

[Ali7]

I realize now this was probally what caused the bony vault of my nose to look very wide even though genetically it is wide so it looks even wider. Just imagine ur nasal aperture (minus the anterior nasal spine) being forwardly grown while the rest of ur maxilla isnt forwardly grown and is recessed.

If true, will cheekbone implants maybe combined with Paranasal implants or even mid face implants fix this? Basically something that’s giving the whole midface projection so the bony vault isn’t prominent or will it be uncanny?

 

[vincentzygo]

can u show pics of what u mean bro

 

[Ali7]

can u show pics of what u mean bro

Of me? I’m an Incel, no

I can find an example possibly let me see

 

[Ali7]

can u show pics of what u mean bro

Ok I found some random ass photo from another thread. Might not be the best but you’ll see in a minute

See how because this girls midface is recessed her nasal bones show out more and are more prominent?

 

[d0wnpour_]

I realize now this was probally what caused the bony vault of my nose to look very wide even though genetically it is wide so it looks even wider. Just imagine ur nasal aperture (minus the anterior nasal spine) being forwardly grown while the rest of ur maxilla isnt forwardly grown and is recessed.

If true, will cheekbone implants maybe combined with Paranasal implants or even mid face implants fix this? Basically something that’s giving the whole midface projection so the bony vault isn’t prominent or will it be uncanny?

yes a recessed maxilla will cause a larger nose appearance

 

[vincentzygo]

Ok I found some random ass photo from another thread. Might not be the best but you’ll see in a minute

See how because this girls midface is recessed her nasal bones show out more and are more prominent?

i see the opposite, her nasal bridge looks flat

 

[Ali7]

i see the opposite, her nasal bridge looks flat

It’s flat yes but here bony vault isn’t also prominent

 

[Ali7]

yes a recessed maxilla will cause a larger nose appearance

Yea that’s what I’m thinking but the only thing I’m wondering now is, can implants really fix this?

 

[Ali7]

And it would be Probally implants that wrap around the nasal bones/bony vault more like the 2nd picture.

 

[vincentzygo]

It’s flat yes but here bony vault isn’t also prominent

yeah idkwym

 

[d0wnpour_]

Yea that’s what I’m thinking but the only thing I’m wondering now is, can implants really fix this?

If a surgery that causes a forward grown maxilla is done, it will improve nose shape and size appearance. This is because if your maxilla is recessed, it causes a downturned nose as the skin is having to cover more area as it needs to attach to the maxilla that is not as forward as it should be

 

[Ali7]

If a surgery that causes a forward grown maxilla is done, it will improve nose shape and size appearance. This is because if your maxilla is recessed, it causes a downturned nose as the skin is having to cover more area as it needs to attach to the maxilla that is not as forward as it should be

Thoughts on midface implants to solve this instead then? Lf2 is so brutal..

 

[Zenis]

And it would be Probally implants that wrap around the nasal bones/bony vault more like the 2nd picture.

this surgery looks amazing

 

[Ali7]

yeah idkwym

Let me break it down for you

 

[vincentzygo]

Let me break it down for you

i see know

recessed maxilla = bump on nose

 

[Ali7]

this surgery looks amazing

Fr I have insanely fucked up eye breadth tho so idk if this implant can even work for me

 

[Ali7]

i see know

recessed maxilla = bump on nose

Not necessarily but as a result it leaves the boy vault aka the nasal bones more projected than the midface

 

[Ali7]

If ur high iq pls respond I’m tired of being a recessedcel

 

[Zenis]

Fr I have insanely fucked up eye breadth tho so idk if this implant can even work for me

Wdym

 

[Zenis]

Not necessarily but as a result it leaves the boy vault aka the nasal bones more projected than the midface

Yes of course

 

[Ali7]

Wdym

Good vs bad: the outer distance of ur zygomatic complex or the width. Mine is like the 2nd guys not a lot of width at the ends of my eye. U can prob tell by this my face is more rounded so idk how implants are gonna work since I don’t have good maybe what it is is the zmc width, it’s more rounded which sucks because my infras + midface is recessed

 

[Zenis]

Good vs bad: the outer distance of ur zygomatic complex or the width. Mine is like the 2nd guys not a lot of width at the ends of my eye

is that not fixable with the implant? if its custom designed you can easily ask for a extension to the zygomatic complex

 

[Ali7]

is that not fixable with the implant? if its custom designed you can easily ask for a extension to the zygomatic complex

I’m fucking stupid nvm. What I meant basically is that I have bad bitemporal and bizygomatic width and as a result I dont have a lot of horizontal width in that area if it makes since. And because of that, my orbits are more rounded.

Nah I don’t wanna get a extension of the zmc that’s to risky plus my face is already somewhat angular but once again, since I have bad zmc and bitemp width, my orbits are more rounded into my skull if that makes sense. Usually I see implants for the cheekbones that have good bitemp and zmc width but never seen any for a rounded face

 

[Ali7]

Hopefully someone knows both about implant design for both this issue and projected nasal bones with midface deficiency

 

[Zenis]

I’m fucking stupid nvm. What I meant basically is that I have bad bitemporal and bizygomatic width and as a result I dont have a lot of horizontal width in that area if it makes since. And because of that, my orbits are more rounded.

Nah I don’t wanna get a extension of the zmc that’s to risky plus my face is already somewhat angular but once again, since I have bad zmc and bitemp width, my orbits are more rounded into my skull if that makes sense. Usually I see implants for the cheekbones that have good bitemp and zmc width but never seen any for a rounded face

its not risky

 

[Ali7]

its not risky

If I do that then id have to laterally expand my zmc with a zso then get bitemp implants it’s too risky n messes with my harmony tbh

 

[Ali7]

I realize now this was probally what caused the bony vault of my nose to look very wide even though genetically it is wide so it looks even wider. Just imagine ur nasal aperture (minus the anterior nasal spine) being forwardly grown while the rest of ur maxilla isnt forwardly grown and is recessed.

If true, will cheekbone implants maybe combined with Paranasal implants or even mid face implants fix this? Basically something that’s giving the whole midface projection so the bony vault isn’t prominent or will it be uncanny?

Good vs bad: the outer distance of ur zygomatic complex or the width. Mine is like the 2nd guys not a lot of width at the ends of my eye. U can prob tell by this my face is more rounded so idk how implants are gonna work since I don’t have good maybe what it is is the zmc width, it’s more rounded which sucks because my infras + midface is recessed

I’m gonna tag the only mf that makes custom implants here @RealSurgerymax

Are implants able to fix the forward projection of the bony vault compared to a recessed midface? And can you custom design implants with a more rounded face/orbit area like I showed above despite the zmc and bitemp width?

 

[Zenis]

If I do that then id have to laterally expand my zmc with a zso then get bitemp implants it’s too risky n messes with my harmony tbh

why would you ever do zso when implants exisit

 

[Ali7]

why would you ever do zso when implants exisit

Because imagine how uncanny a whole zmc implant will look. rmbr most times unless idk if implants can be designed good, but usually implants contour so imagine a big chunky implant trying to fix a zmc angle it’s js gonna look stupidly uncanny

 

[Zenis]

Because imagine how uncanny a whole zmc implant will look. rmbr most times unless idk if implants can be designed good, but usually implants contour so imagine a big chunky implant trying to fix a zmc angle it’s js gonna look stupidly uncanny

implants can be designed good if you dont go to some bum in a third world country willing to do it for 2k

 

[Ali7]

implants can be designed good if you dont go to some bum in a third world country willing to do it for 2k

True. I’ve basically figured out what implant csn fix my issue, if it can basically the pic I attached below in those areas up to the orbits and not the zygos since those are more inward and angular. And the implant thickness starts from the bony vault to fill in the midface recession and as it expands almost near to the zygos , the thickness of the implant gets thin so that it blends into the zygo area. Do yk if titanium is better than PEEK btw? I’m thinking aesthetic wise

 

[RealSurgerymax]

I’m gonna tag the only mf that makes custom implants here @RealSurgerymax

Are implants able to fix the forward projection of the bony vault compared to a recessed midface? And can you custom design implants with a more rounded face/orbit area like I showed above despite the zmc and bitemp width?

I cant answer complex general questions of a lot of words and no pictures of YOUR face.

You need to have a full consultation.

 

[Zenis]

True. I’ve basically figured out what implant csn fix my issue, if it can basically the pic I attached below in those areas up to the orbits and not the zygos since those are more inward and angular. And the implant thickness starts from the bony vault to fill in the midface recession and as it expands almost near to the zygos , the thickness of the implant gets thin so that it blends into the zygo area. Do yk if titanium is better than PEEK btw? I’m thinking aesthetic wise

isnt it the same thing

 

[Ali7]

I cant answer complex general questions of a lot of words and no pictures of YOUR face.

You need to have a full consultation.

Alright working on it thanks

 

[Ali7]

isnt it the same thing

No